New JZ: The media doesn't realize It, but the "PSU Scandal" narrative is blowing up.
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So I know the Sandusky investigation began in late 2008 - but it was not really broadly known about until March 31, 2011 (the first Ganim article in the Patriot-News), right?
November 3, 2010 is several months prior to March 2011, of course.
I was out of the country for 10 days in late March and early April of 2011. Pretty much entirely off the grid. So even as one who often visits BWI and reads up on things, the Sandusky investigation was unknown to me for nearly all of 2011. I had no real idea until early November 2011.
I am sorry to say that this has been proven as FACT over the past 6 years (or longer).
I had seen a post by someone somewhere well prior to Friday, Nov. 4, 2011 when the GJP was leaked. I'm not sure where it was, but it was removed. I just assumed it was a nasty, unfounded rumor.
Right - I've heard there were some vague but frightening posts on here. Also the infamous post on another site about how "there's something out there that could be an extinction-level event for Penn State football."
Even with that though --- Houser has to know something if he's sending an e-mail to Stacy Parks Miller about "the" Jerry Sandusky investigation. HE knew an investigation was already on-going.
And once again, as I predicted yesterday, Ray's general carelessness and his living in an echo chamber have resulted in another BOMBSHELL up in smoke.
When will people learn? He's been consistently wrong from the start.
You were right once again. Please remember to claim your prize consisting of a tube steak smothered in underwear. What you do with it in the privacy of your home is entirely your own business.
And, of course, the name of MM’s lawyer adds more irony.
And what are you other than the OGBOT's beotch????!!!!!!! Are you still being paid or do you really like being a HOOOOO?
Trouble is he strikes me as a pathological liar, and as such is incapable of ever being completely honest.
Actually, that link proves nothing regarding the night of the actual incident in 2001.
That just proves that Joe was out of town on the fake 2002 Friday. NOT the 2001 Friday. Joe actually WAS in town the 2001 Friday with Kenny Jackson.
Don't know why John made such a big deal out of it?
Michy I can honestly say that’s the first thing that you’ve typed that I somewhat agreed with
The biggest challenge now is “focus”
Michy Michy Michy ....and I thought there was hope for you
WE were nowhere near those things in the first place
Those of us who understand how this works knew all along that Joe did exactly what he should have
You are still nowhere near having a clue
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You were right once again. Please remember to claim your prize consisting of a tube steak smothered in underwear. What you do with it in the privacy of your home is entirely your own business.
"Howard Stern".
well the reason is, imo, because MM didnt know the date either of when he reported all of this. He went on line someplace and looked up 3/1/2002 and found out JVP was not in town the night before. So MM was making up a CYA story when he wrote the email.
I cant believe MM didnt remember the day when this happened. One would think that as a GA trying to get a job, and upon calling JVP, and Joe telling him, I dont have a job for you, he would at least remember when Kenny Jackson had left!! You know the guy that was blocking him from a $150k+ a year job, (When MM as a GA was making ??) Or if he didnt quite remember that, he could have looked that up, and said oh yea, now I remember.
It is unbelievable to me MM had the month, day, and year wrong.
it almost seems like Mike doesn't remember exactly what happened and when, right??
I agree with you 100% about McQueary. That's not why I am confused.
Concerning McQueary, you are absolutely, positively right! If anything, the link supports and bolsters Ray's theory that Mike didn't know what the heck actually DID happen that Friday night. He was just making excuses and making things up on the fly.
The first thing I thought, like you, was that he either looked up, or was told that on the FAKE 2002 Friday, Joe was out of town, and used that as an excuse as to why he waited until Saturday Morning to tell Joe. This makes it even MORE certain in my mind that if he had to actually lie about THIS, he really wasn't all that concerned on the REAL Friday in 2001 when the incident actually happened. Just another in the long, long line of Mike McQueary fantasies.
What I am confused about is why John is making such a big deal about Ray being wrong based on that link? If anything, that link SUPPORTS Ray. Maybe John jumped the gun and HE is confused. Or, maybe he just hates Ray so much he is trying to discredit his findings.
Both do great work. It would be nice if they could become friends again and work together, but neither accepts criticism very well.
I agree with your last line!! Now what I think is, Ray thinks from Mike's note , the 'he was out of town' , the he is MM Dad. JZ thinks the he is, JVP, as he was out of town on the incorrect date, and at the time MM didnt know the date, he was still using 2002. I always thought the 'he' was JVP, as it was too big a lie for his Dad and DD to go along with them meeting with MM that Friday night, if no meeting actually took place. I think if MM meant his Dad, he would have said, 'Dad' was out of town.
and yes I think Ray and JZ are just pissing on the same bush to see who is correct
And Rudy wasn't on TV on 3/1/2002, either.......
I'm sure this is out there, or has been mentioned before. But looking back, the "dark ages" of Penn State football from 2000-2004 seem to stem far from a lack of recruiting. Looks like our coaches had their minds focused on other things outside of football. Paterno on the other hand, reported what he knew to authorities and went back to doing what he knows best. Recruiting talented players, and adjusting to new schemes - Aka Galen Hall going to Texas & Paterno aggressively going after the likes of Derrick Williams, Justin King, etc.
This article sums it up perfectly: It's a shame this didn't get more traction when it was published. Chicago Trib -
This article sums it up perfectly: It's a shame this didn't get more traction when it was published. Chicago Trib -
If that is the case, just proves Mike used a Google search to develop his narrative for what happened. More proof he did not see it a big earthshaking event.
Heck, Mike McQueary's testimony has become so discredited that I think the only legitimate evidence that he witnessed a shower incident at all is the fact that Jerry Sandusky himself has acknowledged he showered with Allan Myers in 2001.
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Even on the correct date, Rudy was on too late for McQueary's story to make sense. He was in Lasch for a totally different reason.
It was on at 8pm, so that aligns with the timing from other testimony. Watching Rudy seems like something Mike would have remembered from the start of this since that is what triggered him going to Lasch. That would be the easiest thing to verify, yet it was not......
What is your understanding of the reason for his trip to Lasch?
http://notpsu.blogspot.com/2017/03/mcqueary-truthbomb-another-version-of.html?m=1
He would have left before the movie was over, which is surprising if he was so motivated by the movie.
I'm not really sure why he visited Lasch, but I think it's very possible he was drunk and more reason why his testimony was so unreliable.
It was the first Friday after National Signing Day. That is an incredibly stressful period for CFB coaches. His history should make anyone question his sobriety at this juncture in time. I believe in my heart that he was plastered and that is a major reason for his varying stories.
The only "evidence" that he was drunk is a rambling letter from Wendy Silverman. I'm not sure where she got her information.
"Plastered"...LMAO!
Piped, bombed, hootched up, pickled, slammed, wiped out, gooned up, fried, tanked, shit faced.
So, hypothetically, Mike McQueary must take a sobriety test every Friday night at 10:00PM during the period from 2000-2002. I win $100 for each one he fails, you win $200 for each one he passes. Who has more money at the end of 2002?
Been saying this since the beginning! If we ever had a real detective trying to get to the bottom of this story I'd be willing to bet there is a charge from the Gman on there from that night. That is unless he paid cash but as a GA I bet he was charging stuff.
This all seems a little fantastical. Let’s go with thebidea that Mike was referring to Joe as the one out of town. And let’s also go with the theory that he was actually referring to the original (fake) date, during which Joe apparently actually was out of town. How would he know ten years later that Joe was out of town that night?
And some more evidence is that two trained medical doctors thought it more important that he stay as far away as possible from any potential police contact than protect the safety of a young child.
A three second search right of the official PSU football site pulls the article about Joe being in Philly. Here's an insider tip, the News stories there are also posted in chronological order with a date.
Law enforcement buddies could be the connection...who knows? Perhaps buddies from a social club or something? Hubby became a judge in 1/12...............HMMMMM.
