Michael Mann's Potential Contempt of Court?

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Breaking: Fatal Courtroom Act Ruins Michael ‘Hockey Stick’ Mann

July 4, 2017
by John O'Sullivan

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Penn State climate scientist, Michael ‘hockey stick’ Mann commits contempt of court in the ‘climate science trial of the century.’ Prominent alarmist shockingly defies judge and refuses to surrender data for open court examination. Only possible outcome: Mann’s humiliation, defeat and likely criminal investigation in the U.S.


The defendant in the libel trial, the 79-year-old Canadian climatologist, Dr Tim Ball (above, right) is expected to instruct his British Columbia attorneys to trigger mandatory punitive court sanctions, including a ruling that Mann did act with criminal intent when using public funds to commit climate data fraud.

Mann’s imminent defeat is set to send shock waves worldwide within the climate science community as the outcome will be both a legal and scientific vindication of U.S. President Donald Trump’s claims that climate scare stories are a “hoax.”

As can be seen from the graphs below; Mann’s cherry-picked version of science makes the Medieval Warm Period (MWP) disappear and shows a pronounced upward ‘tick’ in the late 20th century (the blade of his ‘hockey stick’). But below that, Ball’s graph, using more reliable and widely available public data, shows a much warmer MWP, with temperatures hotter than today, and showing current temperatures well within natural variation.

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Michael Mann, who chose to file what many consider to be a cynical SLAPP (Strategic Lawsuit Against Public Participation) libel suit in the British Columbia Supreme Court, Vancouver six long years ago, has astonished legal experts by refusing to comply with the court direction to hand over all his disputed graph’s data. Mann’s iconic hockey stick has been relied upon by the UN’s IPCC and western governments as crucial evidence for the science of ‘man-made global warming.’

As first reported in Principia Scientific International (February 1, 2017), the defendant in the case, Canadian climatologist Dr. Tim Ball, had won “concessions” against Mann, but at the time the details were kept confidential, pending Mann’s response.

The negative and unresponsive actions of Dr Mann and his lawyer, Roger McConchie, are expected to infuriate the judge and be the signal for the collapse of Mann’s multi-million dollar libel suit against Dr Ball. It will be music to the ears of so-called ‘climate deniers’ like President Donald Trump and his EPA Chief, Scott Pruitt.

As Dr Ball explains:

“Michael Mann moved for an adjournment of the trial scheduled for February 20, 2017. We had little choice because Canadian courts always grant adjournments before a trial in their belief that an out of court settlement is preferable. We agreed to an adjournment with conditions. The major one was that he [Mann] produce all documents including computer codes by February 20th, 2017. He failed to meet the deadline.”

Punishment for Civil Contempt

Mann’s now proven contempt of court means Ball is entitled to have the court serve upon Mann the fullest punishment. Contempt sanctions could reasonably include the judge ruling that Dr. Ball’s statement that Mann “belongs in the state pen, not Penn. State’ is a precise and true statement of fact. This is because under Canada’s unique ‘Truth Defense’, Mann is now proven to have wilfully hidden his data, so the court may rule he hid it because it is fake. As such, the court must then dismiss Mann’s entire libel suit with costs awarded to Ball and his team.

The spectacular rise and fall of climate alarmism’s former golden boy is a courtroom battle with even more ramifications than the infamous Scopes Monkey Trial of 1925. To much fanfare at the time, Mann had sued Ball for daring to publish the damning comment that Mann “belongs in the state pen, not Penn. State.” Dr Ball brilliantly backed up his exposure of the elaborate international money-making global warming scam in his astonishing book, ‘The Deliberate Corruption of Climate Science‘.

In his books, articles, radio and television appearances, Dr. Ball has been resolute in his generation-long war against those who corrupted the field of science to which he had selflessly dedicated his life. Now aged 79, Ball is on the cusp of utter vindication. Despite the stresses and strains on himself and his family, Tim has stood at the forefront of those scientists demanding more openness and transparency from government-funded researchers.

As Ball explains:

“We believe he [Mann] withheld on the basis of a US court ruling that it was all his intellectual property. This ruling was made despite the fact the US taxpayer paid for the research and the research results were used as the basis of literally earth-shattering policies on energy and environment. The problem for him is that the Canadian court holds that you cannot withhold documents that are central to your charge of defamation regardless of the US ruling.”

Likely Repercussions for Science & Climate Policy

A bitter and embarrassing defeat for the self-styled ‘Nobel Prize winner’ who acted as if he was the epitome of virtue, this outcome shames not only Michael Mann, but puts the climate science community in crisis. Many hundreds of peer-reviewed papers cite Mann’s work, which is now effectively junked. Despite having deep-pocketed backers willing and able to feed his ego as a publicity-seeking mouthpiece against skeptics, Mann’s credibility as a champion of environmentalism is in tatters.

But it gets worse for the litigious Penn State professor. Close behind Dr Ball is celebrated writer Mark Steyn. Steyn also defends himself against another one of Mann’s SLAPP suits – this time in Washington DC. Steyn boldly claims Mann “has perverted the norms of science on an industrial scale.” Esteemed American climate scientist, Dr Judith Curry, has submitted to the court an Amicus Curiae legal brief exposing Mann.

The world can now see that his six-year legal gambit to silence his most effective critics and chill scientific debate has spectacularly backfired.


But at a time of much clamor about ‘fake news,’ it seems climate scare stories will have a new angle now that the United States has officially stepped back from the Paris Climate Treaty. President Trump was elected on a mandate to weed out climate fraud so his supporters will point to this legal outcome as vindication for a full purge. It makes a mockery of statements made by Mann last February when PSI’s Hans Schreuder and John O’Sullivan publicly backed their colleague, Dr Ball and endorsed the revelations in his book. Mann reacted by moaning:

“It is difficult to keep up with this dizzying ongoing assault on science.”

The perpetrator of the biggest criminal “assault on science” has now become clear: Dr Mann, utterly damned by his contempt of the court order to show his dodgy data.

There can be little doubt that upon the BC Supreme Court ruling that Mann did commit data fraud, over in Washington DC, the EPA’s Scott Pruitt will feel intense pressure from skeptics to initiate a full investigation into Mann, his university and all those conspiring to perpetuate a trillion-dollar carbon tax-raising sting on taxpayers.

With the scent of courtroom victory invigorating pensioner Ball, he reveals he is determined to go for a second such court win this coming Fall. Then he defends a similar libel lawsuit in Vancouver, filed against him by fellow Canadian climate scientist, Andrew Weaver.

On that case Tim reports:

The second defamation lawsuit involves Andrew Weaver and is scheduled for court in October 2017. We are not sure what will happen as Weaver, who was a lead author for the computer model chapter of four IPCC Reports (1995, 2001, 2007, and 2013), became a politician. He ran for and was elected leader of the British Columbia Green Party and is a sitting member of the provincial legislature. We must continue to prepare for the trial, but it is the prevailing view in the court system that if a scientist becomes a politician their scientific objectivity is compromised – it is considered the bias of a ’noble cause’.”

As a career-long defender of the scientific method, embracing open and transparent verification of important government research, Ball makes this promise to his loyal supporters:

Regardless of the outcomes I am planning a major campaign to expose to the world how they used the court system to silence me because I dared to speak out against their claims and actions. I am not particularly bright but I had two major threats, I was qualified, and I had an ability to explain in a way the public could understand. These latter abilities were honed in teaching a science credit for arts students for 25 years.”

Saving a final word for his friends and colleagues at Principia Scientific International (PSI) Dr Ball concluded:

“It goes without saying that I could not have done any of this without the support of people [like Gregg Thomspon] who gave money and John O’Sullivan who gave superb advice from a legal and life experience perspective.”

Dr Ball and his PSI colleagues are among those now calling for governments to set aside proper funding for ‘blue team’ scientists and experts skilled in critically examining claims made by so-called government ‘experts’ where they impact public policy. In the final outcome, these ‘devil’s advocates’ of science (or ‘skeptics’) are the best defense against waste and corruption.

To that end, Australian Astronomer and entrepreneur Gregg Thompson has been crucial in providing resources that helped establish PSI as a registered UK charity devoted to this public service.

PSI is urging more charitable donations from ordinary citizens to help further the cause of creating more ‘blue team/red team’ initiatives devoted to monitoring government science and prepared to bravely expose negligence and intentional misconduct on the public dime.

Read more from Tim Ball at his website: drtimball.com. Buy on Amazon Tim’s ‘The Deliberate Corruption of Climate Science



Related
Michael Mann & Lawyer Exposed in Climate Court CaseSeptember 26, 2014

Court Battle: Michael Mann Losing, Gives Tim Ball ‘Concessions’February 1, 2017

Is Climate Data Fraudster Michael Mann’s Lawyer a Liar?March 17, 2014

http://principia-scientific.org/breaking-fatal-courtroom-act-ruins-michael-hockey-stick-mann/
 

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Breaking: Fatal Courtroom Act Ruins Michael ‘Hockey Stick’ Mann

July 4, 2017
by John O'Sullivan

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Penn State climate scientist, Michael ‘hockey stick’ Mann commits contempt of court in the ‘climate science trial of the century.’ Prominent alarmist shockingly defies judge and refuses to surrender data for open court examination. Only possible outcome: Mann’s humiliation, defeat and likely criminal investigation in the U.S.


The defendant in the libel trial, the 79-year-old Canadian climatologist, Dr Tim Ball (above, right) is expected to instruct his British Columbia attorneys to trigger mandatory punitive court sanctions, including a ruling that Mann did act with criminal intent when using public funds to commit climate data fraud.

Mann’s imminent defeat is set to send shock waves worldwide within the climate science community as the outcome will be both a legal and scientific vindication of U.S. President Donald Trump’s claims that climate scare stories are a “hoax.”

As can be seen from the graphs below; Mann’s cherry-picked version of science makes the Medieval Warm Period (MWP) disappear and shows a pronounced upward ‘tick’ in the late 20th century (the blade of his ‘hockey stick’). But below that, Ball’s graph, using more reliable and widely available public data, shows a much warmer MWP, with temperatures hotter than today, and showing current temperatures well within natural variation.

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Michael Mann, who chose to file what many consider to be a cynical SLAPP (Strategic Lawsuit Against Public Participation) libel suit in the British Columbia Supreme Court, Vancouver six long years ago, has astonished legal experts by refusing to comply with the court direction to hand over all his disputed graph’s data. Mann’s iconic hockey stick has been relied upon by the UN’s IPCC and western governments as crucial evidence for the science of ‘man-made global warming.’

As first reported in Principia Scientific International (February 1, 2017), the defendant in the case, Canadian climatologist Dr. Tim Ball, had won “concessions” against Mann, but at the time the details were kept confidential, pending Mann’s response.

The negative and unresponsive actions of Dr Mann and his lawyer, Roger McConchie, are expected to infuriate the judge and be the signal for the collapse of Mann’s multi-million dollar libel suit against Dr Ball. It will be music to the ears of so-called ‘climate deniers’ like President Donald Trump and his EPA Chief, Scott Pruitt.

As Dr Ball explains:

“Michael Mann moved for an adjournment of the trial scheduled for February 20, 2017. We had little choice because Canadian courts always grant adjournments before a trial in their belief that an out of court settlement is preferable. We agreed to an adjournment with conditions. The major one was that he [Mann] produce all documents including computer codes by February 20th, 2017. He failed to meet the deadline.”

Punishment for Civil Contempt

Mann’s now proven contempt of court means Ball is entitled to have the court serve upon Mann the fullest punishment. Contempt sanctions could reasonably include the judge ruling that Dr. Ball’s statement that Mann “belongs in the state pen, not Penn. State’ is a precise and true statement of fact. This is because under Canada’s unique ‘Truth Defense’, Mann is now proven to have wilfully hidden his data, so the court may rule he hid it because it is fake. As such, the court must then dismiss Mann’s entire libel suit with costs awarded to Ball and his team.

The spectacular rise and fall of climate alarmism’s former golden boy is a courtroom battle with even more ramifications than the infamous Scopes Monkey Trial of 1925. To much fanfare at the time, Mann had sued Ball for daring to publish the damning comment that Mann “belongs in the state pen, not Penn. State.” Dr Ball brilliantly backed up his exposure of the elaborate international money-making global warming scam in his astonishing book, ‘The Deliberate Corruption of Climate Science‘.

In his books, articles, radio and television appearances, Dr. Ball has been resolute in his generation-long war against those who corrupted the field of science to which he had selflessly dedicated his life. Now aged 79, Ball is on the cusp of utter vindication. Despite the stresses and strains on himself and his family, Tim has stood at the forefront of those scientists demanding more openness and transparency from government-funded researchers.

As Ball explains:

“We believe he [Mann] withheld on the basis of a US court ruling that it was all his intellectual property. This ruling was made despite the fact the US taxpayer paid for the research and the research results were used as the basis of literally earth-shattering policies on energy and environment. The problem for him is that the Canadian court holds that you cannot withhold documents that are central to your charge of defamation regardless of the US ruling.”

Likely Repercussions for Science & Climate Policy

A bitter and embarrassing defeat for the self-styled ‘Nobel Prize winner’ who acted as if he was the epitome of virtue, this outcome shames not only Michael Mann, but puts the climate science community in crisis. Many hundreds of peer-reviewed papers cite Mann’s work, which is now effectively junked. Despite having deep-pocketed backers willing and able to feed his ego as a publicity-seeking mouthpiece against skeptics, Mann’s credibility as a champion of environmentalism is in tatters.

But it gets worse for the litigious Penn State professor. Close behind Dr Ball is celebrated writer Mark Steyn. Steyn also defends himself against another one of Mann’s SLAPP suits – this time in Washington DC. Steyn boldly claims Mann “has perverted the norms of science on an industrial scale.” Esteemed American climate scientist, Dr Judith Curry, has submitted to the court an Amicus Curiae legal brief exposing Mann.

The world can now see that his six-year legal gambit to silence his most effective critics and chill scientific debate has spectacularly backfired.


But at a time of much clamor about ‘fake news,’ it seems climate scare stories will have a new angle now that the United States has officially stepped back from the Paris Climate Treaty. President Trump was elected on a mandate to weed out climate fraud so his supporters will point to this legal outcome as vindication for a full purge. It makes a mockery of statements made by Mann last February when PSI’s Hans Schreuder and John O’Sullivan publicly backed their colleague, Dr Ball and endorsed the revelations in his book. Mann reacted by moaning:

“It is difficult to keep up with this dizzying ongoing assault on science.”

The perpetrator of the biggest criminal “assault on science” has now become clear: Dr Mann, utterly damned by his contempt of the court order to show his dodgy data.

There can be little doubt that upon the BC Supreme Court ruling that Mann did commit data fraud, over in Washington DC, the EPA’s Scott Pruitt will feel intense pressure from skeptics to initiate a full investigation into Mann, his university and all those conspiring to perpetuate a trillion-dollar carbon tax-raising sting on taxpayers.

With the scent of courtroom victory invigorating pensioner Ball, he reveals he is determined to go for a second such court win this coming Fall. Then he defends a similar libel lawsuit in Vancouver, filed against him by fellow Canadian climate scientist, Andrew Weaver.

On that case Tim reports:

The second defamation lawsuit involves Andrew Weaver and is scheduled for court in October 2017. We are not sure what will happen as Weaver, who was a lead author for the computer model chapter of four IPCC Reports (1995, 2001, 2007, and 2013), became a politician. He ran for and was elected leader of the British Columbia Green Party and is a sitting member of the provincial legislature. We must continue to prepare for the trial, but it is the prevailing view in the court system that if a scientist becomes a politician their scientific objectivity is compromised – it is considered the bias of a ’noble cause’.”

As a career-long defender of the scientific method, embracing open and transparent verification of important government research, Ball makes this promise to his loyal supporters:

Regardless of the outcomes I am planning a major campaign to expose to the world how they used the court system to silence me because I dared to speak out against their claims and actions. I am not particularly bright but I had two major threats, I was qualified, and I had an ability to explain in a way the public could understand. These latter abilities were honed in teaching a science credit for arts students for 25 years.”

Saving a final word for his friends and colleagues at Principia Scientific International (PSI) Dr Ball concluded:

“It goes without saying that I could not have done any of this without the support of people [like Gregg Thomspon] who gave money and John O’Sullivan who gave superb advice from a legal and life experience perspective.”

Dr Ball and his PSI colleagues are among those now calling for governments to set aside proper funding for ‘blue team’ scientists and experts skilled in critically examining claims made by so-called government ‘experts’ where they impact public policy. In the final outcome, these ‘devil’s advocates’ of science (or ‘skeptics’) are the best defense against waste and corruption.
To that end, Australian Astronomer and entrepreneur Gregg Thompson has been crucial in providing resources that helped establish PSI as a registered UK charity devoted to this public service.

PSI is urging more charitable donations from ordinary citizens to help further the cause of creating more ‘blue team/red team’ initiatives devoted to monitoring government science and prepared to bravely expose negligence and intentional misconduct on the public dime.

Read more from Tim Ball at his website: drtimball.com. Buy on Amazon Tim’s ‘The Deliberate Corruption of Climate Science



Related
Michael Mann & Lawyer Exposed in Climate Court CaseSeptember 26, 2014

Court Battle: Michael Mann Losing, Gives Tim Ball ‘Concessions’February 1, 2017

Is Climate Data Fraudster Michael Mann’s Lawyer a Liar?March 17, 2014

http://principia-scientific.org/breaking-fatal-courtroom-act-ruins-michael-hockey-stick-mann/


Sounds like complete crap.

Principia scientific? What is that?

https://www.desmogblog.com/principia-scientific-international

Principia Scientific International (PSI) is an organization based in the United Kingdom which promotes fringe views and material to claim that carbon dioxide is not a greenhouse gas. PSI was formed in 2010 around the time they published their first book, titled Slaying the Sky Dragon: Death of the Greenhouse Gas Theory. [1]

PSI claims it provides its members with a “reliable port of call to ascertain the facts behind the news stories to better judge whether information being presented by third parties is accurate information and reflects a balanced view of all facets of the subject.” [2]

The PSI website says the organization is “for everyone who supports the traditions [sic] scientific method against the rise of sinister and secretive government funded 'post normal science'.”

As of 2014, PSI described itself as a “not-for-profit community interest subsidiary of PSI Acumen Ltd. That statement has since been removed. [2]

PSI Acumen was registered with Companies House in the UK in March 2013 (see PDF) as a private company, with an address in Battersea Park Road, London. In July 2013, the business address of PSI Acumen was changed (PDF) to an address in Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, which is the same as the home address of John O'Sullivan, the organization's founder and chief executive officer. PSI Acument LTD was dissolved (PDF) on October 15, 2014. [3], [4], [5]

The two named directors were John O'Sullivan, of the UK, and a Walter James O'Brien, with a US address listed in Fargo, North Dakota. Emails published by climate skeptic blogger Pete Ridley suggest that Walter James O'Brien no longer has any connection to the PSI Acument company. [3], [6]

Principia Scientific reports that one of their “proudest endeavors is the ongoing support given to world-leading independent climatologist, Dr Tim Ball,” who is also a founding member and former chairman of PCI.
 

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Sounds like complete crap.


desmogblog What is that?


rumbles loves Leftist PR fraudsters

DeSmogBlog is a highly politicized climate alarmist website that attacks skeptics of catastrophic man-caused climate change and the organizations that support them.

Co-founded by a convicted money launderer, the site is controlled by the controversial James Hoggan, owner of Hoggan & Associates, a For-Profit Public Relations Firm based in Canada. The site’s mission is to shame, silence, and criminally penalize climate realists.

It publishes blog posts and profiles of scores of scientists and climate skeptics that it claims (incorrectly) are part of a “well-funded and highly organized public relations campaign” that is “poisoning” the climate change debate with “fraudulent misinformation.”

Popular Technology describes DeSmogBlog as “a smear site founded by a scientifically unqualified public relations man,” adding:

“Since its creation in 2006 the site has done nothing but post poorly researched propaganda with a clear intent to smear respected scientists, policy analysts or groups who dare oppose an alarmist position on global warming.

Their articles frequently reference unreliable sources such as Wikipedia and Sourcewatch

since they are unable to find any fact based criticisms of those they attack in respected news sources.”


DeSmogBlog was instrumental in the 2012 “Fakegate” scandal, the theft and publication of internal documents of The Heartland Institute, which The Economist magazine has called “the world’s most prominent think-tank promoting skepticism about man-made climate change.”

Peter Gleick, climate activist and former president of the left-wing Pacific Institute, admitted to digitally impersonating a board member and stealing the budget and planning documents, but

has yet to admit his forgery of a fake “Heartland Climate Strategy” memo that DeSmogBlog stores on its website.
 
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Desmogblog Founded by a Convicted Money Launderer

John Lefebvre promotion shot. (via Wikipedia)

While James Hoggan runs the site, the organization got its seed money in 2006 from co-founder John David Lefebvre, who plead guilty the following to felony money laundering charges. Lefebvre admitted to laundering billions of dollars in illegal gambling proceeds through his company, NETeller – a British online money transfer company that also traded in carbon dioxide emission credits.

Lefebvre cut a deal with the U.S. Justice Department and was sentenced June 29, 2007 by federal Judge P. Kevin Castel in the U.S. New York Southern District Court to 45 days imprisonment, one year of supervised release, and fined $750,000. On September 23, 2011, Lefebvre was ordered to pay a forfeiture obligation of $40 million. DeSmogBlog’s founding 2006 grant, which Hoggan says was more than $300,000, came from Lefebvre, who was engaged in criminal activity. This is ironic, according to Popular Technology, because DeSmogBlog’s “favorite tactic is to attempt to smear those they disagree with as funded by ‘dirty money.’”

DeSmogBlog has not distanced itself from Lefebvre and his criminal past, but has celebrated it. James Hoggan’s introduction on the website says, “The DeSmogBlog team is especially grateful to our founding benefactor John Lefebvre, a lawyer, internet entrepreneur and past-president of NETeller, a firm that has been providing secure online transactions since 1999.”

Lefebvre, 65, has continued as a climate activist and blogger at the site, and has funded other climate alarmist venues and events since his guilty plea. He also describes himself as “an emerging rock artist. a songwriter, touring performer, and recording artist.” According to Lefebvre’s music website:

“At a time when so much popular music is about style, attitude and production values, Lefebvre’s emphasis on feeling and honesty – ‘When I’m writing songs, they have to be things I feel down in my feet’ – has a certain throwback quality. He came of age during the glory days of ‘60s, when the Beatles, Jimi Hendrix, Bob Dylan, the Beach Boys, the Kinks and Jethro Tull left their mark on him and the psychedelic life style served him well (except when he spent time in prison for selling acid to an undercover policeman). ‘At 17, I felt I was experiencing the core of the universe,’ he says. ‘I knew what life was about. My life has been a miracle of “refinery” ever since.’”
 
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I don't know who DeSmogBlog and so forth are.

But I would think we could all agree that one person is hiding his methods - Michael Mann.

That's not a scientist, that's a politician.
 
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I don't know who DeSmogBlog and so forth are.

But I would think we could all agree that one person is hiding his methods - Michael Mann.

That's not a scientist, that's a politician.


Here are some links where the data can be found:

http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/data-sources/
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/data-sources/#Paleo_data
http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~mann/shared/research/MANNETAL98/

More generally, links to ALL the MBH research data, etc. from ALL of the MBH studies are here:

http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~mann/Mann/research/research.html
 

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Clearly BS,
- from a website Mann helped to create to spread Dishonest anti-science propaganda
- if Mann has refused to comply with the requirements of the court.

If the required info was all available, there would be no outstanding requests. Perhaps we will learn more, depending upon how the court proceeds. We will see how it unfolds.

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Mann has a history of hiding data and corruptly manipulating data, as an anti-science political zealot. Nothing Mann says or does can be trusted on its own.

Independent evaluation of the raw data and all methods are required for anything that corrupt Michael Mann touches.

Mann is such a kook, even the Nobel Prize Committee had to b!tch slap him down, for Mann and his bogus website falsely claiming he had won a Nobel Prize. Michael Mann is a zealot who has no integrity.

Mann's emails, revealed in ClimateGate, were a key part of uncovering Mann's corruption and the Corrupt Climate Cabal rigging journals and censoring science that debunked extremist alarmists' anti-science propaganda.
 

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Clearly BS,
- from a website Mann helped to create to spread Dishonest anti-science propaganda
- if Mann has refused to comply with the requirements of the court.

If the required info was all available, there would be no outstanding requests. Perhaps we will learn more, depending upon how the court proceeds. We will see how it unfolds.

=======

Mann has a history of hiding data and corruptly manipulating data, as an anti-science political zealot. Nothing Mann says or does can be trusted on its own.

Independent evaluation of the raw data and all methods are required for anything that corrupt Michael Mann touches.

Mann is such a kook, even the Nobel Prize Committee had to b!tch slap him down, for Mann and his bogus website falsely claiming he had won a Nobel Prize. Michael Mann is a zealot who has no integrity.

Mann's emails, revealed in ClimateGate, were a key part of uncovering Mann's corruption and the Corrupt Climate Cabal rigging journals and censoring science that debunked extremist alarmists' anti-science propaganda.

Clearly BS,
- from a website Mann helped to create to spread Dishonest anti-science propaganda
- if Mann has refused to comply with the requirements of the court.

If the required info was all available, there would be no outstanding requests. Perhaps we will learn more, depending upon how the court proceeds. We will see how it unfolds.

If this and if that then perhaps.....

This is the worst made up story about Mann I have ever seen.
 

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Clearly BS,
- from a website Mann helped to create to spread Dishonest anti-science propaganda
- if Mann has refused to comply with the requirements of the court.

If the required info was all available, there would be no outstanding requests. Perhaps we will learn more, depending upon how the court proceeds. We will see how it unfolds.

If this and if that then perhaps.....

This is the worst made up story about Mann I have ever seen.

Laughing at your weaseling rumble. Hilarious watching you squirm.

Hey rumble - Post more from your Nazi boys, an international laughingstock, a so-called Ethics Expert from a "science" group who was caught spreading Fraudulent Dicuments or convicted For Profit Fraudster PR Hucksters with no Science background.

Mann's history is written. He's an international laughingstock who was even slapped down by the Nobel Prize Committee for falsely claiming he had won a Nobel Prize.

The court's outcome is still to unfold.
It will be what it will be.
 

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Laughing at your weaseling rumble. Hilarious watching you squirm.

Hey rumble - Post more from your Nazi boys, an international laughingstock, a so-called Ethics Expert from a "science" group who was caught spreading Fraudulent Dicuments or convicted For Profit Fraudster PR Hucksters with no Science background.

Mann's history is written. He's an international laughingstock who was even slapped down by the Nobel Prize Committee for falsely claiming he had won a Nobel Prize.

The court's outcome is still to unfold.
It will be what it will be.

He's an international laughingstock

Only among deniers like yourself which fortunately is only a very small number.
 

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He's an international laughingstock

Only among deniers like yourself which fortunately is only a very small number.

Deny what, you silly ass?

Even the AP has banned that Hate Speech word. But rumble is such an over-the-top zealot, he still mindlessly spews the propaganda nonsense.

B!tch slapped by the Nobel Prize committee, outed as corrupt by his own ClimateGate emails, shot down by British Court and outed as incompetent by the largest group of Academies of Science in the world, shined the light on the Corrupt Climate Cabal.
 

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Deny what, you silly ass?

Even the AP has banned that Hate Speech word. But rumble is such an over-the-top zealot, he still mindlessly spews the propaganda nonsense.

B!tch slapped by the Nobel Prize committee, outed as corrupt by his own ClimateGate emails, shot down by British Court and outed as incompetent by the largest group of Academies of Science in the world, shined the light on the Corrupt Climate Cabal.

Deny science.

So where can we see the data that Ball used for his graph?
 

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The College of Liberal Arts really doesn't count.


Counts towards what exactly? Why do I have full access to all of Dr. Manns work and data but know nothing about Dr. Balls.? Doesn't that raise any alarms with you?
 

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Deny science.

So where can we see the data that Ball used for his graph?

LOL - You're laughably dishonest and ignorant rumble. You, your Nazi Boys, your anti-science Paid PR Slimeballs and Convicted Felons are a hoot.

No surprise the Radical Left plays their ignorant followers for fools. It's so easy with guys like you.

You're not worth the time. Stay ignorant and foolish. They are your best traits.

Funny stuff!
 

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LOL - You're laughably dishonest and ignorant rumble. You, your Nazi Boys, your anti-science Paid PR Slimeballs and Convicted Felons are a hoot.

No surprise the Radical Left plays their ignorant followers for fools. It's so easy with guys like you.

You're not worth the time. Stay ignorant and foolish. They are your best traits.

Funny stuff!

So no information at all on the source of the data for Balls graph? But we have full disclosure of the data used for Manns graphs. hmmmmm which person is trying to hide something I wonder?