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I hate this non sensible talk concerning involvement in the CFP. We still have positions over the spectrum of our team that are still young. Playoff speculations are media produced. Let the youngsters play and corrections made from week to week. THEN, WHATEVER WILL BE, WILL BE. I'm an engineer, I don't care too much for speculations. You have too look at the material you have available to work with, and "create" from there.deja vu all over again!
Fair enough, but as a PSU history buff, gotta say that seeing us listed just behind Alabama & Oklahoma; teams we played in #1 vs #2 NC Games after '78 & '85 seasons makes me smile a bit... considering where we were just two years agoI hate this non sensible talk concerning involvement in the CFP. We still have positions over the spectrum of our team that are still young. Playoff speculations are media produced. Let the youngsters play and corrections made from week to week. THEN, WHATEVER WILL BE, WILL BE. I'm an engineer, I don't care too much for speculations. You have too look at the material you have available to work with, and "create" from there.
Expectations here, both for the Pitt game and the season, have been unrealistic. The defense is not of championship caliber and the offense showed yesterday it can be contained. We could win them all, but we could just as easily finish 9-3.I hate this non sensible talk concerning involvement in the CFP. We still have positions over the spectrum of our team that are still young. Playoff speculations are media produced. Let the youngsters play and corrections made from week to week. THEN, WHATEVER WILL BE, WILL BE. I'm an engineer, I don't care too much for speculations. You havte too look at the material you have available to work with, and "create" from there.
Yes, Step, I completely agree (except for the knucklehead engineer part). How'd all that talk about a 60-0 stomping of Pitt work out? Let them play the bloody games one at a time; exist in the moment.I hate this non sensible talk concerning involvement in the CFP. We still have positions over the spectrum of our team that are still young. Playoff speculations are media produced. Let the youngsters play and corrections made from week to week. THEN, WHATEVER WILL BE, WILL BE. I'm an engineer, I don't care too much for speculations. You have too look at the material you have available to work with, and "create" from there.
Agreed. Although I would say that we have at least as good a shot as I think we seemed to at this point in 1978 (having only beaten Temple 10-7 and Rutgers 26-10 with highly ranked Ohio State looming), 1982 (with a killer schedule ahead of us), and 1985 (we barely beat teams like Temple, East Carolina & Rutgers)...Expectations here, both for the Pitt game and the season, have been unrealistic. The defense is not of championship caliber and the offense showed yesterday it can be contained. We could win them all, but we could just as easily finish 9-3.
Ah yes, but a man's dreams should exceed his grasp, or what's a heaven for? JoePa's favorite quoteLet them play the bloody games one at a time; exist in the moment.
Joe was quoting Browning.Ah yes, but a man's dreams should exceed his grasp, or what's a heaven for? JoePa's favorite quote
Yes, and it was his favorite quote, per two of his booksJoe was quoting Browning.
before we win out, we better win out. I'll be at Iowa. That game is going to be a test.deja vu all over again!
Did you just call me an ASS? You wouldn't be the first. Artsandletters, not sciences.I agree with you A&S...
Joe dreamed of one win at a time and a reporter asking him about a possible game three months away would've gotten his/her ass chewed out.Ah yes, but a man's dreams should exceed his grasp, or what's a heaven for? JoePa's favorite quote
LOL, I looked at the time posted...way past my bedtime. Fixed the post.Did you just call me an ASS? You wouldn't be the first. Artsandletters, not sciences.
Joe also used to talk about making a run for the National Championship all the time. But, my comment was more reflecting on the past since Bama & OSU are two teams with whom we have particular NC Game history.Joe dreamed of one win at a time and a reporter asking him about a possible game three months away would've gotten his/her ass chewed out.
A comment which would be better suited for December.Joe also used to talk about making a run for the National Championship all the time. But, my comment was more reflecting on the past since Bama & OSU are two teams with whom we have particular NC Game history.
Was that the Pitt QB?J
Joe was quoting Browning.
Uncle.Unless Bama and OU are both only 9-3 in December, then no NC rematch for us
Not exactly true.... It's not likely that any undefeated P5 conference winner would get left out of the playoffs, but what if each conference had an undefeated conference champion? That would be 5 undefeated teams and only 4 playoff slots. Also, what if a group of 5 team goes undefeated and there are plenty of deserving P5 teams... I would guess that the group of 5 team doesn't get invited to the playoffs.If we, or any team, "wins out" they will be MNC!!
I hate this non sensible talk concerning involvement in the CFP...
Not exactly true.... It's not likely that any undefeated P5 conference winner would get left out of the playoffs, but what if each conference had an undefeated conference champion? That would be 5 undefeated teams and only 4 playoff slots. Also, what if a group of 5 team goes undefeated and there are plenty of deserving P5 teams... I would guess that the group of 5 team doesn't get invited to the playoffs.
That being said, If Penn State does manage to win out somehow, I would be shocked if they don't get invited to the playoffs. They started the season ranked in the top 10, and would have beaten tOSU, Michigan, MSU, MD, and a couple of very good teams from the Big Ten West division.
I think you should get a dictionary and look up the meaning of possible and probable...Dan, I don't see the possibility of a team going undefeated (and therefore winning all their conference games) and getting left out of the playoffs. Even in the B12, if a team is undefeated they will make the playoff. Same in the P10, ACC, SEC and B10..... Any team that is undefeated in the P10 would have to have beaten the next best team, as well as everyone else in their conference, as they would also have had to win their conference championship game. And with the parity since the 85 scholarship limit was imposed, has there ever been an undefeated team in each P5 conference? No. And now especially with the conference championship, won't happen.
When it happens otherwise, let me know.
I think you should get a dictionary and look up the meaning of possible and probable...
For example:
Clemson is undefeated and doesn't play Alabama, Penn State, Oklahoma, or USC
Alabama is undefeated and doesn't play Clemson, Penn State, Oklahoma, or USC
Penn State is undefeated and doesn't play Clemson, Alabama, Oklahoma, or USC
Oklahoma is undefeated and doesn't play Alabama, Clemson, Penn State, or USC
USC is undefeated and doesn't play Alabama, Clemson, Penn State, or Oklahoma
That is just one of the possible scenarios where a P5 team could go undefeated and get left out of the playoffs.
I'm not saying that it's likely, but it is POSSIBLE.
I think you should get a dictionary and look up the meaning of possible and probable...
For example:
Clemson is undefeated and doesn't play Alabama, Penn State, Oklahoma, or USC
Alabama is undefeated and doesn't play Clemson, Penn State, Oklahoma, or USC
Penn State is undefeated and doesn't play Clemson, Alabama, Oklahoma, or USC
Oklahoma is undefeated and doesn't play Alabama, Clemson, Penn State, or USC
USC is undefeated and doesn't play Alabama, Clemson, Penn State, or Oklahoma
That is just one of the possible scenarios where a P5 team could go undefeated and get left out of the playoffs.
I'm not saying that it's likely, but it is POSSIBLE.
If we win out and then take the first two playoff games, we could very well be national champions!
Wouldn't be surprised if all of the top 5 lose this year. If PSU is undefeated after OSU I'll start to consider the possibility. But PSU didn't look like a playoff team to me last Saturday. Good chance they improve, but you never know.deja vu all over again!
We could take The To wherever we wanted to take it if we're driving the CFP NC train.Where would we take the to?
Wouldn't be surprised if all of the top 5 lose this year. If PSU is undefeated after OSU I'll start to consider the possibility. But PSU didn't look like a playoff team to me last Saturday. Good chance they improve, but you never know.