Rudy from Notre Dame i take it. yea at and t was such a scam. We had a don’t use the damn phone policy because it was expensive. Ac? Yea set at 79 because we didn’t want to pay that either what is a little sweat anyway, in the winter wear a damn sweater, argile was in anyway!
Why?
Why shouldn't it cost the consumer (student) what it costs to provide the product (the education)?
If someone graduates, and can only land a job that pays well below average - do they get a tuition refund?
Who pays them the refund?
LOL
Spoken like a true professor of business, the refuge of people too dumb to make it in engineering and too gutless to be entrepreneurs.
I do know you have an engineering degree, MBA and a "sort of" business, although I'd be more impressed if you had better credentials (a CFP and/or CPA).LMAO.
You probably don't even know you're talking to a guy w a BS in ChEng…. who has run his own business for over 20 years.
You incessant dullard.
And now.... good bye to you Mr Poker
I am already pounding the idea of military service of some kind to my 3 boys. The service academies (if they can qualify), ROTC, G.I.Bill, etc. provided they don’t get a visit from a bagman one day.
Oh, no, it was ALL the fault of the union guys who did not design or engineer or market the egregious ugly sh!t bag rust buckets made all through the 70s and 80s. The poorly engineered gashogs the big 3 put out had nothing to do with the managers, designers, engineers and marketing clowns the big 3 hired, NONE of whom were union. Lol.
Wouldn't it be smarter to "get enlightened" by reading say 50 great books a year and spending alone time thinking about what is in them while having a circle of friends with whom you can discuss ideas? Wouldn't that be better than having a college professor tell you to read these same books and for that you acquire $250K in debt?
If most College Students would work, forget spring break, and be frugral, they wouldn't have so much debt. And if college presidents would stop the needless spending, cost would go down.NO. POLITICS.
See the link below. From the article:
"(CNN) -- You have to hand it to Elizabeth Warren: The senator's slate of bold, transformational policy proposals has dominated the Democrats' conversation even if the presidential candidate herself has not dominated 2020 polls.
Her latest -- a proposal that according to her campaign's analysis would forgive $640 billion in student loans currently held by the government and make tuition largely free for public two- and four-year institutions -- would seek to address inequality, break down financial barriers to a college education and ease the debt burden on those who already went to school. The Massachusetts Democrat would finance it all with a tax on income over $50 million. That's also how she's pay for her universal pre-K proposal.
It would totally wipe away more than three-quarters of student loan balances in the country, according to an analysis by academics published on Warren's website.
There are other candidates for the Democratic nomination with plans to make college more affordable. Cory Booker would give every child a nest egg, funding those of lower-income children at a higher level, and Bernie Sanders has previously proposed a tuition subsidy program.
But Warren's proposal commanded new interest in the topic, although passing something of this magnitude in the Senate seems unlikely; Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, a Kentucky Republican, has vowed to be a "grim reaper" for progressive plans."
https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/24/politics/student-loan-crisis/index.html
Hopefully we can discuss this without making it about the LEFT.
I don't think academicians have any concept of cost control. Our local high school here in Western Pa announced that for the fifth year in a row they are going to increase property taxes the maximum amount allowed by law. In the announcement the superintendent opined that they have done everything possible to keep down costs. That same day they announced that they are going to pay over half a million dollars to replace artificial turf on two playing fields. The turf is less than 10 years old. They view the taxpayers as a limitless supply of free money that they can enjoy spending on anything they can imagine. Also, they view education as the most important government expenditure and other government costs (roads, police, etc.) are far less important.
Supply and demand should drive the cost. But it costs more for the school to provide you with a BS in Engineering or any medical or technical field than it does to provide a BS for most liberal arts majors. My son's in college. As far as I know our costs are the same no matter what is major at his current school.Why?
Why shouldn't it cost the consumer (student) what it costs to provide the product (the education)?
If someone graduates, and can only land a job that pays well below average - do they get a tuition refund?
Who pays them the refund?
LOL
Some universities are already doing this. Purdue has a basic tuition rate and then a surcharge for majors in Engineering and Computer Science to name a few.
Would add 1 more
One of the reasons for the extremely high debt for college students is the outlandish high interest rate that companies like Navient charge for student loans. We helped pay for our graanddaughter's student loan, until the Feds raised interest rates a few years ago, the rate was 8%, when the Feds first raised the rates a fraction of a percent, Navient raised their rates to over 9%. At the time you could buy a car for less than 3% and a home mortgage was slightly over 3%. To me that was absolute crime.NO. POLITICS.
See the link below. From the article:
"(CNN) -- You have to hand it to Elizabeth Warren: The senator's slate of bold, transformational policy proposals has dominated the Democrats' conversation even if the presidential candidate herself has not dominated 2020 polls.
Her latest -- a proposal that according to her campaign's analysis would forgive $640 billion in student loans currently held by the government and make tuition largely free for public two- and four-year institutions -- would seek to address inequality, break down financial barriers to a college education and ease the debt burden on those who already went to school. The Massachusetts Democrat would finance it all with a tax on income over $50 million. That's also how she's pay for her universal pre-K proposal.
It would totally wipe away more than three-quarters of student loan balances in the country, according to an analysis by academics published on Warren's website.
There are other candidates for the Democratic nomination with plans to make college more affordable. Cory Booker would give every child a nest egg, funding those of lower-income children at a higher level, and Bernie Sanders has previously proposed a tuition subsidy program.
But Warren's proposal commanded new interest in the topic, although passing something of this magnitude in the Senate seems unlikely; Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, a Kentucky Republican, has vowed to be a "grim reaper" for progressive plans."
https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/24/politics/student-loan-crisis/index.html
Hopefully we can discuss this without making it about the LEFT.
Maybe I did. I inferred from your post that spending 100k on a social work degree is irresponsible. My bad if I read that wrong.
Very true. I have friends in England and you are shut out of any opportunity for college based on a comprehensive test taken near the end of high school. If you don't score well you are not allowed to attend college. We have much more freedom here in the US. Let's keep it that way. Government involvement always means less freedom.
No, they shouldn't. It forces home prices up.
Hard to find much of an argument against this, Mike. Particularly when it comes to those who live way beyond their means.
Where have you been. We fon’t Need more liberal arts and English degrees. We need mor graduates with the trade skills that pay big bucks. The more money the feds throw at it, the faster tuitions rise.
