Borden takes 6th. Nice work Brian!
Black Knight Invitational 11/19 on Flo
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Bottom is negligible this year with the new points system. If you’re a takedown artist like MM you can be ridden all day and still gonna win with the 3 point takedown
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It's less important but not negligible. Still shortens the match and drains energy.
We got some guys from 157 - 174 at PSU/NLWC that can help him with that ....
Also like you said Claw is tough on top. He's long and knows how to use it to his advantage.
EDIT: Also Claw got 1+ minute on Levi last year also before the reversal. We're blessed to have him in the room, he's such a good partner and teammate.
Barr 6-1 SV. Gonna be dangerous when the raw gets refined.
This^^. We all like MM, but there is no evidence at this point to indicate that MM should be ranked ahead of more established guys like Amine, Hamati, Caliendo, or Rameriz.
Nagao does his damage from top. Only guys with a great top game at 165 are Otoole and Hamiti. And for those two, you are correct he has to get better..thankfully it’s November and he has coach Casey to rough him up daily on top
Barr in deep on a single leg in SV, short scramble catches Kranitz on his back and wins 6-1!
5 champions. Theres some familiarity there...
Keep in mind Mesenbrink JUST started his PSU folk practice. He is also literally the most coachable and aware kid.
I remember after his first match with Garvin at U20s where he didn't get the tech, he told Askren he was just swapping lead legs (or some strategy) next match since he noticed Garvin would struggle with that. 10-0 tech next match, no instructions from Ben at all.
I remember after his first match with Garvin at U20s where he didn't get the tech, he told Askren he was just swapping lead legs (or some strategy) next match since he noticed Garvin would struggle with that. 10-0 tech next match, no instructions from Ben at all.
Playing well with others. Results from winner's bracket only.
| LB | RD | PSU | X | RESULT | PF | PA | NAME | UNIVERSITY |
| 125 | 16 | DAVIS | W | TECHNICAL | 17 | 1 | WALDMAN | LONG ISLAND |
| 125 | 8 | DAVIS | W | MAJOR | 11 | 1 | FARMER | ARMY |
| 125 | 4 | DAVIS | W | DECISION | 4 | 2 | LUJAN | MICHIGAN ST. |
| 125 | 2 | DAVIS | W | DECISION | 5 | 1 | BERGINC | ARMY |
| 125 | 16 | HOWARD | W | DECISION | 6 | 4 | CONCEPCION | GARDNER-WEBB |
| 125 | 8 | HOWARD | W | DECISION | 5 | 2 | STEEN | PENN STATE |
| 125 | 4 | HOWARD | L | MAJOR | 3 | 12 | BERGINC | ARMY |
| 125 | 16 | STEEN | W | DECISION | 12 | 5 | WAGNER | BINGHAMTON |
| 125 | 8 | STEEN | L | DECISION | 2 | 5 | HOWARD | PENN STATE |
| 133 | 16 | NAGAO | W | TECHNICAL | 15 | 0 | DAVIS | GARDNER-WEBB |
| 133 | 8 | NAGAO | W | MAJOR | 13 | 1 | HAMPTON | MICHIGAN ST. |
| 133 | 4 | NAGAO | W | TECHNICAL | 17 | 2 | BRITTON | RUTGERS |
| 133 | 2 | NAGAO | W | FAKK | 3 | 0 | BASILE | A\ |
| 133 | 16 | SHINK | L | DECISION | 11 | 16 | KUNZ | N. COLORADO |
| 141 | 16 | BARTLETT | W | FALL | 7 | 0 | HALAL | BROWN |
| 141 | 8 | BARTLETT | W | FALL | 6 | 2 | FONGARO | RUTGERS |
| 141 | 4 | BARTLETT | W | FALL | 11 | 0 | TREANOR | ARMY |
| 141 | 2 | BARTLETT | W | DECISION | 4 | 1 | KASAK | PENN STATE |
| 141 | 16 | EVANS | W | DECISION | 11 | 4 | LUCIER | BINGHAMTON |
| 141 | 8 | EVANS | L | DECISION | 2 | 3 | KASAK | PENN STATE |
| 141 | 16 | KASAK | W | MAJOR | 11 | 1 | BROWN | ARMY |
| 141 | 8 | KASAK | W | DECISION | 3 | 2 | EVANS | PENN STATE |
| 141 | 4 | KASAK | W | MAJOR | 8 | 0 | CARTER | GARDNER-WEBB |
| 141 | 2 | KASAK | L | DECISION | 1 | 4 | BARTLETT | PENN STATE |
| 149 | 16 | HEARD | W | DECISION | 4 | 2 | McMULLEN | LONG ISLAND |
| 149 | 8 | HEARD | L | DECISION | 5 | 7 | WILLIAMS | ARMY |
| 149 | 16 | PIERCE | W | FALL | 12 | 3 | HARRIS | GARDNER-WEBB |
| 149 | 8 | PIERCE | L | DECISION | 3 | 5 | BUTLER | RUTGERS |
| 165 | 16 | BARRACLOUGH | W | MAJOR | 12 | 2 | GAYER | RUTGERS |
| 165 | 8 | BARRACLOUGH | W | DECISION | 11 | 8 | LEE | PENN STATE |
| 165 | 4 | BARRACLOUGH | W | FALL | 4 | 1 | FISH | MICHIGAN ST. |
| 165 | 2 | BARRACLOUGH | DECISION | 5 | 8 | MESENBRINK | PENN STATE | |
| 165 | 16 | LEE | W | FALL | 3 | 0 | ROTHROCK | BROWN |
| 165 | 8 | LEE | L | DECISION | 8 | 11 | BARRACLOUGH | PENN STATE |
| 165 | 16 | MESENBRINK | W | TECHNICAL | 17 | 2 | MORRIS | ARMY |
| 165 | 8 | MESENBRINK | W | TECHNICAL | 25 | 6 | CASELLA | BINGHAMTON |
| 165 | 4 | MESENBRINK | W | FALL | 3 | 0 | WHITE | RUTGERS |
| 165 | 2 | MESENBRINK | W | DECISION | 8 | 5 | BARRACLOUGH | PENN STATE |
| 174 | 16 | BORDEN | W | MAJOR | 15 | 7 | RIX-McELHINNY | N. COLORADO |
| 174 | 8 | BORDEN | L | DECISION | 3 | 10 | PETITE | BUFFALO |
| 174 | 16 | DUNBAR | L | FALL | 1 | 4 | CONNOLLY | LONG ISLAND |
| 184 | 16 | BARR | W | TECHNICAL | 18 | 3 | SWARTZ | ARMY |
| 184 | 8 | BARR | W | DECISION | 9 | 5 | VANADIA | MICHIGAN ST. |
| 184 | 4 | BARR | W | DECISION | 2 | 1 | NOLAN | BINGHAMTON |
| 184 | 2 | BARR | W | DECISION | 6 | 1 | KRANITZ | BUFFALO |
| 184 | 16 | KELLY | L | DECISION | 4 | 9 | DONAHUE | N. COLORADO |
No ones saying he should be ranked ahead of them right now since he hasn’t faced them.
I’ll go on record that he handles 3 of the 4 you mentioned. Hamiti will be a wild one
though..
I am interested where he will be ranked this week. He didn’t beat Fish, BearClaw did..Will rankers move him up ahead of Fish ?
They'd have had ten if it weren't for the All-Star meet.
Beau has 5 bonus wins in 7 matches. 4 of them by fall.
Some truth in that, but there will likely be a few close matches where a top guy may slow down MM's neutral offense and MM will need to get out from bottom. You can be pretty sure that any weakness will eventually be exposed against top competition.
you think he will take bottom,I dont maybe the other guy may pick top when he is down by 6 or 7?nope
Okay. But by the same logic, it's way too early to say that MM is top three in the weight class, which is what a previous poster suggested.
Methinks Davis is not gonna be intimidated by the impending arrival of Lilledahl either.
I wonder which of the two is more likely to grow into 133.
From seeing the clip of LL vs Spencer (I know Lee is a bit short), LL is lankier than I realized.
Some more separation between them and Nagao seems desirable since Aaron has 3 yrs left I think.
Maybe Davis redshirts next yr if Lilledahl takes over 125.
Several ways it can go.
People are just excited and projecting (like Willie’s Crystal Ball)..nothing wrong with that. If they saying he should be ranked top 5 right now, they don’t know what they talking about. If they saying he will be top 3 or 5 at end of year? I agree..obviously a long time between now and then, but personally I love what I see. Takedowns is name of game now and he’s an artist.
If he falls short of top 5? Won’t be do to lack of effort which is really what I like.
Seton Hall Pírate licking his chops to lay down some clickbait
Agree, but that assumes that the other guy is down 6 or 7 points. If MM can really do that consistently against the top guys, great. But MM hasn't yet wrestled against top competition in folk, and that may be a tall order against stout guys who are proficient at slowing things down. Like Amine, for instance.
You may be right, it's just premature to make that claim now. We'll eventually find out.
Absolutely I got a bit rambunctious there but damn I am a fan 😂
Nah...not about to. Presser was actually OK.
Just to put something to bed, people think I dislike Penn State wrestling. Totally not true, I don't at all. In fact, if I was going to introduce a fan to wrestling, I'd tell them to watch a Penn State dual. My issues with Penn State extends to exactly one person within the program, who is not within Cael Sanderson's chain of command (and certainly is not a wrestler).
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