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If true, then the Big Ten office has lost the plot. FSU is the best program left in Florida. They can always take Miami as well, but to ignore FSU would be a huge mistake IMO.Report says ND, UNC, and the U are priorities.
ESPN Report: The Big Ten hasn’t had conversations with Florida State about conference expansion
Florida State appears to never have been a serious Big Ten target.
I don’t think academic fit is really an issue anymore. The Big Ten already took Nebraska and Oregon.
I don't think the SEC has any interest in FSU either. Expansion isn't really about the quality of the football program. If we add Notre Dame, UVa, UNC and GA Tech are the 4 I think eventually join
So it's just a coincidence that the new Big 10 schools and the "reported" Big Ten targets including your predictions are AAU schools?
I would tend to agree. FSU is a much better option than Miami (FL) with their fickle fan base. Academically FSU really is fine for the Big Ten, really the only think is AAU and it wouldn’t be surprising to see them end up joining that. They also are a large flagship state school very much fitting in with most of the Big Ten (Florida would be a somewhat better choice but FSU is still reasonable) most consistent than Miami (FL) is.
Nebraska and Oregon are very good academic schools. Florida State and Clemson are not.
There are two schools in Florida that the Big Ten would consider, UF and Miami. That is it. There is a very small list of schools the Big Ten would accept given its academics, research and athletics. The schools below are pretty much it.
Everyone says academics matter, but then the Big Ten admits Nebraska and Oregon.
With all respect, says who?
There are no real ranking for schools. Most rankings are like recruiting rankings. Hot garbage. Those that qualify as AAU schools, have qualified or are close to qualifying are the best you are going to get. You need to look at their research portfolio, how much research money they bring in, faculty awards etc. The AAU is a guide. If you are a current or past member you are a top tier university. There are schools that are generally considered to be close (which also have the athletics) that I previously listed.
Athletic money is chump change compared to research dollars. The gap is closing though. Keep that in mind.
Well, if academics mattered Stanford would have been invited to our conference with Oregon and Washington. The truth is that only revenue generation matters. Stanford’s revenue generation potential is very similar to UNC.
Academics matter to a small extent. Pretty much a floor a school needs to be above. Once they are “acceptable”, an invitation depends on being financially beneficial (which mostly is football value). Stanford ain’t there.
I respectfully disagree. It’s like the partial share argument- it’s a temporary fix. Eventually they’re going to want a full share and they frankly don’t bring any real value with them to justify that.
I don't think the Big Ten will take either personally, but might if their votes are needed to break the ACC's Grant of Rights.
Agreed in the current revenue model, but the next shoe to fall will be tiered revenue sharing in the next contracts. I can see a base revenue of something like $20 mill per school and then x dollars per each x football viewership level. In that case you can make it work out.
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I don’t think “academics weren’t even considered” but Oregon was above the acceptable floor (and AAU helped) so they were fine to consider and were invited for their football prowess and revenue potential.
If Miami, Pitt, NC State or Boston College are the vote that pushes the tally to invalidate the ACC Grant of Rights agreement without going through the courts, the Big Ten will find a place and a way to make it work. At this point, more than half the league wants out, the legal eagles are thinking they need 10 or 12 to invalidate the agreement. The schools most likely to be left behind are the only things standing in the way of a no vote.
You don’t know what you are talking about as it relates to FSU academics. It is ranked comparably to PSU.
