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Yes, but the OP was asking specifically about PA teams. Nationally, I’m sure AWA is up thereNot to mention Askren's club
You're right. I missed it. I'll delete.Yes, but the OP was asking specifically about PA teams. Nationally, I’m sure AWA is up there
Part of the problem is a lot of these kids now wrestle for multiple clubs. Bassett/Gibson/Forrest for example all train at YG,M2 and whatever Bassett's dungeon is called.With the rise of M2, Steller Trained, and well established clubs like Young Guns, what clubs are producing the best results?
Has anyone looked at PIAA champs, Fargo, Super 32, etc. to measure the impact these clubs are having?
Are top end clubs being referred to in this thread a lucrative profession? How many kids participate on average do you think and what are the rates if anyone knows?Part of the problem is a lot of these kids now wrestle for multiple clubs. Bassett/Gibson/Forrest for example all train at YG,M2 and whatever Bassett's dungeon is called.
I feel it turns lucrative when you have enough people paying dues. Feels like m2 has so many kids wrestling. Also with the beginning of girl's wrestling it opens the world to more people to join.Are top end clubs being referred to in this thread a lucrative profession? How many kids participate on average do you think and what are the rates if anyone knows?
Steller Trained has made a significant impact on D1. I know it is located in D3, but close to the border and there are many southeastern PA wrestlers training there.
AAA had 25 medals, the most of any region, and went 124-127 (.494) which is the best I can remember them doing since the mid-2000s. If you eliminate the 5th qualifier (which did not add any medals) they went 114-101 (.530) which would put them in between the NE and SW this year.
Add in AA which had 9 medals - I can't remember D1 ever having more than 1 or 2 before FCA came along - with a winning percentage of .694
Between AAA and AA, D1 has 23 kids coming back next year who have already won state medals and 4 champs coming back. There were many, many years that they haven't won that many medals including the SRs and they've only had that many champs maybe once or twice in the last 30 years. And that is just the baseline for next year. I would bet they are 35+ medals and at least half a dozen champs next year, maybe more.
Malvern is not getting any worse, so it's not from some influx of private school kids (the one kid who did go from National Preps to AAA was ruled ineligible or you would have added a champ and another medal to the totals).
FCA added to this, but if you remove AA, the numbers are still way up. And most of those kids were D1 anyway.
I can't think of any other factor besides Steller to attribute this to. You see their kids all over in the off-season, we have kids from our school (other end of the district) that make the hour and 15-minute trek all the time. I think Chance has really got something going that rivals M2 and Young Guns.
Good stuff Diceman ! Thanks for your insight 👍Steller Trained has made a significant impact on D1. I know it is located in D3, but close to the border and there are many southeastern PA wrestlers training there.
AAA had 25 medals, the most of any region, and went 124-127 (.494) which is the best I can remember them doing since the mid-2000s. If you eliminate the 5th qualifier (which did not add any medals) they went 114-101 (.530) which would put them in between the NE and SW this year.
Add in AA which had 9 medals - I can't remember D1 ever having more than 1 or 2 before FCA came along - with a winning percentage of .694
Between AAA and AA, D1 has 23 kids coming back next year who have already won state medals and 4 champs coming back. There were many, many years that they haven't won that many medals including the SRs and they've only had that many champs maybe once or twice in the last 30 years. And that is just the baseline for next year. I would bet they are 35+ medals and at least half a dozen champs next year, maybe more.
Malvern is not getting any worse, so it's not from some influx of private school kids (the one kid who did go from National Preps to AAA was ruled ineligible or you would have added a champ and another medal to the totals).
FCA added to this, but if you remove AA, the numbers are still way up. And most of those kids were D1 anyway.
I can't think of any other factor besides Steller to attribute this to. You see their kids all over in the off-season, we have kids from our school (other end of the district) that make the hour and 15-minute trek all the time. I think Chance has really got something going that rivals M2 and Young Guns.
Steller Trained also gets a decent number of D11 kids at least periodically, since it's only an hour from Allentown. Rath trains there.Steller Trained has made a significant impact on D1. I know it is located in D3, but close to the border and there are many southeastern PA wrestlers training there.
AAA had 25 medals, the most of any region, and went 124-127 (.494) which is the best I can remember them doing since the mid-2000s. If you eliminate the 5th qualifier (which did not add any medals) they went 114-101 (.530) which would put them in between the NE and SW this year.
Add in AA which had 9 medals - I can't remember D1 ever having more than 1 or 2 before FCA came along - with a winning percentage of .694
Between AAA and AA, D1 has 23 kids coming back next year who have already won state medals and 4 champs coming back. There were many, many years that they haven't won that many medals including the SRs and they've only had that many champs maybe once or twice in the last 30 years. And that is just the baseline for next year. I would bet they are 35+ medals and at least half a dozen champs next year, maybe more.
Malvern is not getting any worse, so it's not from some influx of private school kids (the one kid who did go from National Preps to AAA was ruled ineligible or you would have added a champ and another medal to the totals).
FCA added to this, but if you remove AA, the numbers are still way up. And most of those kids were D1 anyway.
I can't think of any other factor besides Steller to attribute this to. You see their kids all over in the off-season, we have kids from our school (other end of the district) that make the hour and 15-minute trek all the time. I think Chance has really got something going that rivals M2 and Young Guns.
The Compound. It's more about strength and conditioning than actual wrestling.Part of the problem is a lot of these kids now wrestle for multiple clubs. Bassett/Gibson/Forrest for example all train at YG,M2 and whatever Bassett's dungeon is called.