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An evening at Joe and Sue's Home

Please take this opportunity to thank the many responsible for ridding Penn State of its destructive culture led by Joe Paterno.

F*cking cocksucker assholes.
IMO you are being too kind. I tear up every time I see something like this.....just thinking what those calculating rat bastards and bitches did to Joe. Even worse to hire a turd licking serpent like Freeh to come in and put another bullet in his back......these are despicable human beings.
 
IMO you are being too kind. I tear up every time I see something like this.....just thinking what those calculating rat bastards and bitches did to Joe. Even worse to hire a turd licking serpent like Freeh to come in and put another bullet in his back......these are despicable human beings.

Absolutely. I also tear up watching Joe. The THON speech. There was another speech he gave somewhere, I forget which one, where he was reflecting on his time at Penn State, the players, etc., and he just said, "I love Penn State." It's disgusting that the "leadership" in 2011 and 2012 didn't love him back.
 
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IMO John Surma, Karen Peetz and Ken Frazier would rather gut Penn State than risk their companies' stocks go down by a dollar due to bad publicity. That's the kind of people they are.

Of course Surma later presided over a ~90% decline in his company's stock, illustrating his skill as a leader IMO
 
Watching the NCAA wrestling tournament yesterday there was an interview with Matt Millen. He was watching the tournament with his good friend Paul Suhey. All I could think of was Suhey’s role on the BOT and his outrageous comment about “retiring Joe early”. I hope PSU supporters never forget the role he and his ilk played in permanently smearing PSU’s good name forever. After researching the JS case for over 7 years now, as far as I’m concerned the BOT created the entire scandal by their fetal position response to accusations. To this day it’s mind numbing how our “leaders” reacted. And to think there are posters on this board that will still defend those scoundrels.
 
Please take this opportunity to thank the many responsible for ridding Penn State of its destructive culture led by Joe Paterno.

F*cking cocksucker assholes.
I cried at two funerals: My father's and Joe's. What those people did to Joe was despicable and inhuman. I also blame all of those at PSU, in law enforcement, the B1G and the NCAA who knew what they were doing and went along.
 
Marshall.
We are near the same age and while i never met the man having followed PSU closely [a die hard really] I can honestly say this. I am cynical [or wise enough] to have never had a hero [my father was killed in an auto accident by a drunk driver when i was 15] Joe was as close as you could come to being a hero for me.
i love Franklin and think he is great for our program but it doesn't mean Joe won't always hold a special place in my heart.
 
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I apologize if everyone has seen this over the years.
I'm very appreciative and supportive of Coach Franklin and excited about the future.....but at 68 years of age.....a big part of me is here.
“May no act of ours bring shame!” Now there’s a line I keep wondering if those members of the BOT sing anymore?????
 
IMO John Surma, Karen Peetz and Ken Frazier would rather gut Penn State than risk their companies' stocks go down by a dollar due to bad publicity. That's the kind of people they are.

Of course Surma later presided over a ~90% decline in his company's stock, illustrating his skill as a leader IMO

How is his nephew Vic?
 
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I recall when Joe dismissed him from the team John Surma demanded Joe reinstate and Joe”s response was this the least of his problems.Joe was spot on about this kid maybe he would be alive today if the Surma”s listened
 
Marshall.
We are near the same age and while i never met the man having followed PSU closely [a die hard really] I can honestly say this. I am cynical [or wise enough] to have never had a hero [my father was killed in an auto accident by a drunk driver when i was 15] Joe was as close as you could come to being a hero for me.
i love Franklin and think he is great for our program but it doesn't mean Joe won't always hold a special place in my heart.

I can't say Joe was my hero either. As a young coach, he was someone who I emulated. In my mind he was the greatest coach/educator of all time. I had the good fortune of meeting him on 3 occasions. The first instance was at spring practice/coaches clinic in April 1971. I was a 21 year old first year coach and Bobby Gutshall (Altoona) was my head coach. He knew Joe and at the Coaches mixer Joe stopped by our table. The second opportunity came at spring practice in 1996. My sons then age 14 and 12 asked him for his autograph after practice and I asked Joe Sarra to take a picture of all of us.
The final time was at spring practice 2010. Coach Sarra was "holding court" at Holuba (he was already confined to a wheel chair) with George Chaump, Scrap and Kermit Buggs. Joe came over and joined the conversation.....primarily to pay his respects to Sarra. I made myself scarce, feeling unworthy to be huddled in that select group.
 


I apologize if everyone has seen this over the years.
I'm very appreciative and supportive of Coach Franklin and excited about the future.....but at 68 years of age.....a big part of me is here.
You know what I like?

It hit me back around 2012 when PSU seemed to be a four letter word. i still wore my PSU sweatshirt out in public. I know I had nothing to be ashamed of. At that time, many other PSUers would in passing simply mention "We are..." The reply would be "Penn State" (duh!). Not loud. Not boisterous. A simple acknowledgement to one another that we share something we care about very deeply.

As PSUers, we "get it"! We have a bond. We have a culture. We have unity. I know it turns some off, but, F 'em. They don't get it.
 
Watching the NCAA wrestling tournament yesterday there was an interview with Matt Millen. He was watching the tournament with his good friend Paul Suhey. All I could think of was Suhey’s role on the BOT and his outrageous comment about “retiring Joe early”. I hope PSU supporters never forget the role he and his ilk played in permanently smearing PSU’s good name forever. After researching the JS case for over 7 years now, as far as I’m concerned the BOT created the entire scandal by their fetal position response to accusations. To this day it’s mind numbing how our “leaders” reacted. And to think there are posters on this board that will still defend those scoundrels.
May God bless Matt...but that’s on him!
 
I recall when Joe dismissed him from the team John Surma demanded Joe reinstate and Joe”s response was this the least of his problems.Joe was spot on about this kid maybe he would be alive today if the Surma”s listened

Sarcastic needle arm is dead
 
This still puzzles me greatly.

Isn't Paul Suhey the trustee who had heard about the wrestling incident at the local highschool, did nothing, and kept the information from the board when they were made aware psu was being investigated? His behavior in this entire ordeal is as bad as anyone's. Very, very poor display of character.
 
This still puzzles me greatly.
From what I heard it puzzled members of his family as well. Once a "friend" becomes a father, it can impact a relationship. I lost the best friend I ever had because of a son/coach series of issues. A good coach must be principled and certain "courtesies" cannot be extended if they "cross the line." A parent/friend is blind to the line.
 
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Isn't Paul Suhey the trustee who had heard about the wrestling incident at the local highschool, did nothing, and kept the information from the board when they were made aware psu was being investigated? His behavior in this entire ordeal is as bad as anyone's. Very, very poor display of character.
Told Tim to do something about it .....is the rumor. He also tried being cryptic and gave vague references to the "violations" committed in the FB program that the BOT were protecting PSU from. LOL
 
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May God bless Matt...but that’s on him!
In the heat of the controversy .....not knowing everything we know now......being cornered by your occupation as a commentator.....perhaps I can give him some slack. But, he's had time to make amends. I'm not aware that he has? Glad he's regaining health. Not a favorite of mine.....sorry.
 
Isn't Paul Suhey the trustee who had heard about the wrestling incident at the local highschool, did nothing, and kept the information from the board when they were made aware psu was being investigated? His behavior in this entire ordeal is as bad as anyone's. Very, very poor display of character.
Seems that the party line was the the BOT was "blindsided" by the Sandusky allegations? Liars!
 
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Note. Matt is a huge backer of Joe and his legacy. Anyone who implies differently is a liar . Hating anyone is a wasted and self defeating emotion. Maybe Matt is wiser than some here.
 
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Note. Matt is a huge backer of Joe and his legacy. Anyone who implies differently is a liar . Hating anyone is a wasted and self defeating emotion. Maybe Matt is wiser than some here.

Does Matt think Joe screwed up? Paul does. The bot does. Even the bot, when around fellow penn staters in a safe and controlled environment, will allow employees to state Joe was a great man but not address the fact he did the right thing, let alone the depths of their depravity. Let me know if/when Matt actually addresses what Joe did or even how the bot responded. Maybe he did and I missed it. He's never struck me as a shy individual.
 
From what I heard it puzzled members of his family as well. Once a "friend" becomes a father, it can impact a relationship. I lost the best friend I ever had because of a son/coach series of issues. A good coach must be principled and certain "courtesies" cannot be extended if they "cross the line." A parent/friend is blind to the line.

I'm not privy to the back story. I've heard some things. I knew Paul and his wife in school. I thought very highly of both. Like I said, his role in this saga, as I see it, is an incongruity I can not explain.
 
Does Matt think Joe screwed up? Paul does. The bot does. Even the bot, when around fellow penn staters in a safe and controlled environment, will allow employees to state Joe was a great man but not address the fact he did the right thing, let alone the depths of their depravity. Let me know if/when Matt actually addresses what Joe did or even how the bot responded. Maybe he did and I missed it. He's never struck me as a shy individual.

Let's cut Matt some slack. The guy's had a lot on his plate.

The guy that should be a little more vocal is Todd Blackledge, IMO.
 
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I apologize if everyone has seen this over the years.
I'm very appreciative and supportive of Coach Franklin and excited about the future.....but at 68 years of age.....a big part of me is here.

At 44 years of age ... I wanted Paterno gone even before the epic 94 squad (and ef Kerry Collins' drunken arse for trying to pick up the girl I was seeing with the line "do you know who I am?" after she responded to his initial advances with "ew!" ... and then responded to his subsequent line with "a drunken' d!ckhead!" ... he's lucky I wasn't there to snap his throwing arm when he was having trouble learning "no means no," but I digress). But I wanted Paterno gone just for purposes of advancing the success of the program.

Even at that age, I was smart enough not to buy into stories of legends and heroes. If that lesson needed any further cementing, that was accomplished when I ran into a football buddy (who, literally, and without exaggeration, once asked me how to spell a basic monosyllabic word for a paper in his remedial English course, so he could be eligible next year, as a 22 year old sophomore - WTF? - AFTER prepping at a prestigious prep school ... I was an 18 year sophomore, at the time), and he and his football pals told me they were told they were guaranteed a passing grade in a ridiculous "Arts" class (watch movies, and opine on them) as long as they showed up for class, regardless of whether they passed any quizzes/exams.

I mean, I know the typical football player gets sent down the assembly line with a token degree (advertising, communications, physical therapy, or whatever they get when they're qualified to wrap a high schooler's strained groin), but to be that brazen about it at that basic a level was simply amazing to me, considering I was a varsity athlete, as well (I received very little assistance, but I was a University Scholar, so I didn't really care). And it let me know just how ingrained the culture was.

I'm not going to opine on the rest ... all I know is that the same 22 year old soph told me JoePa was a figurehead out in lala land even back then ... but I will say that I think I'm smart enough not to idolize anyone, or anything.
 
At 44 years of age ... I wanted Paterno gone even before the epic 94 squad (and ef Kerry Collins' drunken arse for trying to pick up the girl I was seeing with the line "do you know who I am?" after she responded to his initial advances with "ew!" ... and then responded to his subsequent line with "a drunken' d!ckhead!" ... he's lucky I wasn't there to snap his throwing arm when he was having trouble learning "no means no," but I digress). But I wanted Paterno gone just for purposes of advancing the success of the program.

Even at that age, I was smart enough not to buy into stories of legends and heroes. If that lesson needed any further cementing, that was accomplished when I ran into a football buddy (who, literally, and without exaggeration, once asked me how to spell a basic monosyllabic word for a paper in his remedial English course, so he could be eligible next year, as a 22 year old sophomore - WTF? - AFTER prepping at a prestigious prep school ... I was an 18 year sophomore, at the time), and he and his football pals told me they were told they were guaranteed a passing grade in a ridiculous "Arts" class (watch movies, and opine on them) as long as they showed up for class, regardless of whether they passed any quizzes/exams.

I mean, I know the typical football player gets sent down the assembly line with a token degree (advertising, communications, physical therapy, or whatever they get when they're qualified to wrap a high schooler's strained groin), but to be that brazen about it at that basic a level was simply amazing to me, considering I was a varsity athlete, as well (I received very little assistance, but I was a University Scholar, so I didn't really care). And it let me know just how ingrained the culture was.

I'm not going to opine on the rest ... all I know is that the same 22 year old soph told me JoePa was a figurehead out in lala land even back then ... but I will say that I think I'm smart enough not to idolize anyone, or anything.
Thanks for sharing. What was it you’d hoped to contribute?
 
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