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WATCH: The Moment When The ‘2,000 Mules’ Folks Admit Their Supposed Evidence Is Nonsense​



True believers in Donald Trump’s lies about the 2020 election gathered in Arizona this weekend to examine what was promised to be a mountain of evidence showing a sophisticated, elaborate, and successful plot to steal the presidency.

Gregg Phillips and Catherine Engelbrecht
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What they got was: A mostly empty website.

Some context: The event, dubbed “The Pit” by its organizers, was headlined by the stars of this year’s break-out conspiracy theory hit, “2,000 Mules.” The Dinesh D’Souza film chronicles the efforts of True The Vote, the right-wing organization that has asserted, falsely, that a network of “mules” deposited fraudulent ballots for Joe Biden in drop boxes across the country.

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D’Souza’s film infamously… didn’t actually show this. Despite promising incontrovertible evidence that drop box surveillance videos and cell phone tracking data would prove the existence of this extensive mule network, the film itself showed just a few isolated videos of people dropping regular-degular ballots off at drop boxes: Nothing illegal. Even a snazzy graphic of a map included in the film — which internet sleuths identified as, apparently, a map of Moscow — didn’t prove anything.

Cue Saturday’s event. The movie’s stars — True the Vote founder Catherine Engelbrecht and Gregg Phillips, who pushed the lie that millions of undocumented people voted in 2016 — have hyped the gathering for months. It would be the moment when, finally, they would reveal the raw data purportedly behind their claims. Or, as a promotional video in May put it, the moment they would “pull the ripcord” and share their evidence.

“The part that was left out of the movie, we have available,” Phillips told Right Side Broadcasting Network ahead of the event. The media, he added, was afraid of the summit because “they have no idea how devastating some of these stories actually are.”

Yet when the big reveal came Saturday, it was a flop.

The Washington Post first noted the awkward course events: The ripcord, as it turns out, is actually an apparently unfinished website called “open.ink.” The site was said to have all of the footage D’Souza and True The Vote cited in “2000 Mules,” as well as related documentation and other evidence.

But, rather than having all of the evidence easily available for “2,000 Mules” heads to peruse, visitors to the site are prompted to sign up to be approved as users.

Only once they are approved by the site’s organizers can they sift through the supposed evidence.

What’s more, Phillips on Saturday had an unfortunate disclaimer about what those lucky individuals would find: “It is junk. It is trash. They didn’t do a good job,” he said of the footage, adding later: “Once you get into that video, it’s nonsense, complete nonsense.”


So what happened? Phillips and Engelbrecht had a few excuses: The video is obscured or chopped up, they said. Also, when they attempted to launch their online repository of evidence, something “basically wiped it clean” — the work, they assumed, of Chinese hackers.


“We had to make a decision,” he said. “The volume of bandwidth was so significant here that if we just published this thing, the bad guys are going to take it down.”


So instead, they showed the crowd a sampling of what they claimed their new website did contain, namely public documents related to consent decrees between various states and plaintiffs, as well as documentation describing states’ relationship with ERIC, the voter registration and anti-fraud tool used by dozens of states across the country, which has become a right-wing bugaboo of late.

Engelbrecht claimed “every single last frame of drop box video” had been loaded onto the site, but on Tuesday, it appeared the site contained just a couple functioning pages and no new information: Visitors are prompted to submit their email addresses to sign up, and “we will let you know whenever we make additions to the repository.” Under a heading called “Latest Documents,” there is simply the notice, “No posts were found.” Under “Repository”: “No knowledge base categories to display.”

“And that really, I think, is the end of Mules!” she said after the excuse parade Saturday. “We’re done,” Phillips added. “End scene,” Engelbrecht said.

Cue near silence from the audience at The Pit.

“Hold your applause for one more second,” Engelbrecht urged the crowd, before admonishing them about the upcoming midterm elections.

“It’s time to move on,” she said. “Not to move on to what happened in 2020, because we still have to understand what happened. That is critical. We have to understand that. But we are 88 days out from midterms.”

“We have to find that balance,” Engelbrecht added. “You have to understand the past is prologue, we have to understand what happened. But we also have to be positioned to move forward.”
 

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WATCH: The Moment When The ‘2,000 Mules’ Folks Admit Their Supposed Evidence Is Nonsense​



True believers in Donald Trump’s lies about the 2020 election gathered in Arizona this weekend to examine what was promised to be a mountain of evidence showing a sophisticated, elaborate, and successful plot to steal the presidency.

Gregg Phillips and Catherine Engelbrecht
© Provided by Talking Points MemoGregg Phillips and Catherine Engelbrecht
What they got was: A mostly empty website.

Some context: The event, dubbed “The Pit” by its organizers, was headlined by the stars of this year’s break-out conspiracy theory hit, “2,000 Mules.” The Dinesh D’Souza film chronicles the efforts of True The Vote, the right-wing organization that has asserted, falsely, that a network of “mules” deposited fraudulent ballots for Joe Biden in drop boxes across the country.

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D’Souza’s film infamously… didn’t actually show this. Despite promising incontrovertible evidence that drop box surveillance videos and cell phone tracking data would prove the existence of this extensive mule network, the film itself showed just a few isolated videos of people dropping regular-degular ballots off at drop boxes: Nothing illegal. Even a snazzy graphic of a map included in the film — which internet sleuths identified as, apparently, a map of Moscow — didn’t prove anything.

Cue Saturday’s event. The movie’s stars — True the Vote founder Catherine Engelbrecht and Gregg Phillips, who pushed the lie that millions of undocumented people voted in 2016 — have hyped the gathering for months. It would be the moment when, finally, they would reveal the raw data purportedly behind their claims. Or, as a promotional video in May put it, the moment they would “pull the ripcord” and share their evidence.

“The part that was left out of the movie, we have available,” Phillips told Right Side Broadcasting Network ahead of the event. The media, he added, was afraid of the summit because “they have no idea how devastating some of these stories actually are.”

Yet when the big reveal came Saturday, it was a flop.

The Washington Post first noted the awkward course events: The ripcord, as it turns out, is actually an apparently unfinished website called “open.ink.” The site was said to have all of the footage D’Souza and True The Vote cited in “2000 Mules,” as well as related documentation and other evidence.

But, rather than having all of the evidence easily available for “2,000 Mules” heads to peruse, visitors to the site are prompted to sign up to be approved as users.

Only once they are approved by the site’s organizers can they sift through the supposed evidence.

What’s more, Phillips on Saturday had an unfortunate disclaimer about what those lucky individuals would find: “It is junk. It is trash. They didn’t do a good job,” he said of the footage, adding later: “Once you get into that video, it’s nonsense, complete nonsense.”


So what happened? Phillips and Engelbrecht had a few excuses: The video is obscured or chopped up, they said. Also, when they attempted to launch their online repository of evidence, something “basically wiped it clean” — the work, they assumed, of Chinese hackers.


“We had to make a decision,” he said. “The volume of bandwidth was so significant here that if we just published this thing, the bad guys are going to take it down.”


So instead, they showed the crowd a sampling of what they claimed their new website did contain, namely public documents related to consent decrees between various states and plaintiffs, as well as documentation describing states’ relationship with ERIC, the voter registration and anti-fraud tool used by dozens of states across the country, which has become a right-wing bugaboo of late.

Engelbrecht claimed “every single last frame of drop box video” had been loaded onto the site, but on Tuesday, it appeared the site contained just a couple functioning pages and no new information: Visitors are prompted to submit their email addresses to sign up, and “we will let you know whenever we make additions to the repository.” Under a heading called “Latest Documents,” there is simply the notice, “No posts were found.” Under “Repository”: “No knowledge base categories to display.”

“And that really, I think, is the end of Mules!” she said after the excuse parade Saturday. “We’re done,” Phillips added. “End scene,” Engelbrecht said.

Cue near silence from the audience at The Pit.

“Hold your applause for one more second,” Engelbrecht urged the crowd, before admonishing them about the upcoming midterm elections.

“It’s time to move on,” she said. “Not to move on to what happened in 2020, because we still have to understand what happened. That is critical. We have to understand that. But we are 88 days out from midterms.”

“We have to find that balance,” Engelbrecht added. “You have to understand the past is prologue, we have to understand what happened. But we also have to be positioned to move forward.”
Well, did you see how many votes were tossed out for inadequate proof for the CA recall vote versus the 2020 general election? Tells you all you need to know.
 

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Well, did you see how many votes were tossed out for inadequate proof for the CA recall vote versus the 2020 general election? Tells you all you need to know.
Exactly , said it before, a friend worked for the Amistad Project, he found evidence of massive fraud on the ground. He was also on the phone call when Bill Barr told them to stand down about the truck driver who brought votes into Pa. from NYC.
They stole it.
 

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Exactly , said it before, a friend worked for the Amistad Project, he found evidence of massive fraud on the ground. He was also on the phone call when Bill Barr told them to stand down about the truck driver who brought votes into Pa. from NYC.
They stole it.
My wife did two audits in Wisc and Erie. Her observation was a) no way to tell in that you had to prove fraud. If you needed to prove complete incompetence, easy peasy. b) these votes are counted in the inner city. how many of these temps and volunteers do you think voted for Trump?
 
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My wife did two audits in Wisc and Erie. Her observation was a) no way to tell in that you had to prove fraud. If you needed to prove complete incompetence, easy peasy. b) these votes are counted in the inner city. how many of these temps and volunteers do you think voted for Trump?
She’s an atty, right? My friend is a PI. He’ll have a different take than her of course. He found people registered to abandoned buildings that voted . When 50-80 use an abandoned shack as an address fraud is a safe bet.
As an atty she wants 100% certainty as she should.
 

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She’s an atty, right? My friend is a PI. He’ll have a different take than her of course. He found people registered to abandoned buildings that voted . When 50-80 use an abandoned shack as an address fraud is a safe bet.
As an atty she wants 100% certainty as she should.
Did you file a lawsuit with your information. You could be telling tales just like your MAGAhead.
 

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How do you explain five states that went for Trump in 2016 flipping for Biden after the polls had closed around 3am. I watched it happen.
Counting takes time. What's your explanation? Can you prove that anything was out of the ordinary?
You snowflake Repub/MAGA types are sore losers.
 

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Counting takes time. What's your explanation? Can you prove that anything was out of the ordinary?
You snowflake Repub/MAGA types are sore losers.
That's ridiculous. Counting takes time? But, only in five Democrat strongholds in five key swing states which all magically went for Biden once the poll watchers had gone to bed.

I sometimes wonder if you guys are truly this clueless or just enjoy rubbing it in our faces that your side got away with it. Enjoy it while you can... now the world knows what to watch for.
 

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Know what's really funny here? You stayed up until 3AM to celebrate a Trump victory..............and got it shoved up your ass.
I wasn't celebrating anything. My wife and I were watching a close election unfold in real time. At least we didn't take to the streets wailing at the moon and smashing things up like your side did in 2016. I also won't be obsessed with Biden the rest of my life like you are with Trump. I doubt I'll even remember Biden was President in a few years.
 

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Exactly , said it before, a friend worked for the Amistad Project, he found evidence of massive fraud on the ground. He was also on the phone call when Bill Barr told them to stand down about the truck driver who brought votes into Pa. from NYC.
They stole it.
Right, the most analyzed election in history and nobody is able to muster a viable legal challenge. The only thing stolen was common sense.
 

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I wasn't celebrating anything. My wife and I were watching a close election unfold in real time. At least we didn't take to the streets wailing at the moon and smashing things up like your side did in 2016. I also won't be obsessed with Biden the rest of my life like you are with Trump. I doubt I'll even remember Biden was President in a few years.
Neither will he :)
 
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Oh how the truth hurts in MAGAland...​

WATCH: The Moment When The ‘2,000 Mules’ Folks Admit Their Supposed Evidence Is Nonsense​



True believers in Donald Trump’s lies about the 2020 election gathered in Arizona this weekend to examine what was promised to be a mountain of evidence showing a sophisticated, elaborate, and successful plot to steal the presidency.

Gregg Phillips and Catherine Engelbrecht
© Provided by Talking Points MemoGregg Phillips and Catherine Engelbrecht
What they got was: A mostly empty website.

Some context: The event, dubbed “The Pit” by its organizers, was headlined by the stars of this year’s break-out conspiracy theory hit, “2,000 Mules.” The Dinesh D’Souza film chronicles the efforts of True The Vote, the right-wing organization that has asserted, falsely, that a network of “mules” deposited fraudulent ballots for Joe Biden in drop boxes across the country.

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D’Souza’s film infamously… didn’t actually show this. Despite promising incontrovertible evidence that drop box surveillance videos and cell phone tracking data would prove the existence of this extensive mule network, the film itself showed just a few isolated videos of people dropping regular-degular ballots off at drop boxes: Nothing illegal. Even a snazzy graphic of a map included in the film — which internet sleuths identified as, apparently, a map of Moscow — didn’t prove anything.

Cue Saturday’s event. The movie’s stars — True the Vote founder Catherine Engelbrecht and Gregg Phillips, who pushed the lie that millions of undocumented people voted in 2016 — have hyped the gathering for months. It would be the moment when, finally, they would reveal the raw data purportedly behind their claims. Or, as a promotional video in May put it, the moment they would “pull the ripcord” and share their evidence.

“The part that was left out of the movie, we have available,” Phillips told Right Side Broadcasting Network ahead of the event. The media, he added, was afraid of the summit because “they have no idea how devastating some of these stories actually are.”

Yet when the big reveal came Saturday, it was a flop.

The Washington Post first noted the awkward course events: The ripcord, as it turns out, is actually an apparently unfinished website called “open.ink.” The site was said to have all of the footage D’Souza and True The Vote cited in “2000 Mules,” as well as related documentation and other evidence.

But, rather than having all of the evidence easily available for “2,000 Mules” heads to peruse, visitors to the site are prompted to sign up to be approved as users.

Only once they are approved by the site’s organizers can they sift through the supposed evidence.

What’s more, Phillips on Saturday had an unfortunate disclaimer about what those lucky individuals would find: “It is junk. It is trash. They didn’t do a good job,” he said of the footage, adding later: “Once you get into that video, it’s nonsense, complete nonsense.”


So what happened? Phillips and Engelbrecht had a few excuses: The video is obscured or chopped up, they said. Also, when they attempted to launch their online repository of evidence, something “basically wiped it clean” — the work, they assumed, of Chinese hackers.


“We had to make a decision,” he said. “The volume of bandwidth was so significant here that if we just published this thing, the bad guys are going to take it down.”


So instead, they showed the crowd a sampling of what they claimed their new website did contain, namely public documents related to consent decrees between various states and plaintiffs, as well as documentation describing states’ relationship with ERIC, the voter registration and anti-fraud tool used by dozens of states across the country, which has become a right-wing bugaboo of late.

Engelbrecht claimed “every single last frame of drop box video” had been loaded onto the site, but on Tuesday, it appeared the site contained just a couple functioning pages and no new information: Visitors are prompted to submit their email addresses to sign up, and “we will let you know whenever we make additions to the repository.” Under a heading called “Latest Documents,” there is simply the notice, “No posts were found.” Under “Repository”: “No knowledge base categories to display.”

“And that really, I think, is the end of Mules!” she said after the excuse parade Saturday. “We’re done,” Phillips added. “End scene,” Engelbrecht said.

Cue near silence from the audience at The Pit.

“Hold your applause for one more second,” Engelbrecht urged the crowd, before admonishing them about the upcoming midterm elections.

“It’s time to move on,” she said. “Not to move on to what happened in 2020, because we still have to understand what happened. That is critical. We have to understand that. But we are 88 days out from midterms.”

“We have to find that balance,” Engelbrecht added. “You have to understand the past is prologue, we have to understand what happened. But we also have to be positioned to move forward.”
I would like your review on Trump's stealing the 2016 election, after listening to all the same type conspiracy theories for the past 6 years.
 

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I would like your review on Trump's stealing the 2016 election, after listening to all the same type conspiracy theories for the past 6 years.
I can't comment on this article, but I can tell you about my experience with the 2020 election here in Northern New Jersey. My wife and I received our two ballots for the 2020 election in the mail from the NJ State Election Committee. About a week later, I received two more 2020 election ballots in the mail with the names of the elderly couple, we bought the house from eighteen years ago!!! I know at the time we bought they house from them; they were moving to Florida and the husband weas having health difficulties. I am sure they are probably gone by now. I guess the NJ State Election Committee forgot to purge the voter rolls for the past 18 years??? My neighbor across the street received the same thing! Two ballots for the people he bought the home from 10 years ago?? Now that is two families on a cul de sac in NJ. Extrapolate these four ballots over the entire population of the state of NJ and you have millions of potential fake voters across the state that would be counted as "valid" because the voter rolls were wrong! 2020 was the LEAST SECURE election in our history!

I did not fill out the extra ballots for Trump and mail them. I dropped them off at the police station in town to call attention to this problem. You cannot have a valid election relying on mail-in voting. Mail-in voting has to be strictly limited to active military and those in nursing homes or medical reasons signed by a doctor in advance of the election. Everyone can easily show-up on election day and vote IN PERSON! Only then can we properly validate your existence and legal right to vote. France just conducted their presidential election with 80M people in one day using paper ballots and had the results by 10pm the same day! If France can do it, we can do it. We have been doing it for 200+ years before the 2020 election and we can easily do it again of we get rid of fraudulent mail-in voting!
 

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I would like your review on Trump's stealing the 2016 election, after listening to all the same type conspiracy theories for the past 6 years.
The 'talk' about the 2016 election is usually how Clinton won the popular vote but the EC went the other way. Shows how the EC violates the Rule of 1 Man 1 Vote with the person getting the most votes = winner.
 

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I can't comment on this article, but I can tell you about my experience with the 2020 election here in Northern New Jersey. My wife and I received our two ballots for the 2020 election in the mail from the NJ State Election Committee. About a week later, I received two more 2020 election ballots in the mail with the names of the elderly couple, we bought the house from eighteen years ago!!! I know at the time we bought they house from them; they were moving to Florida and the husband weas having health difficulties. I am sure they are probably gone by now. I guess the NJ State Election Committee forgot to purge the voter rolls for the past 18 years??? My neighbor across the street received the same thing! Two ballots for the people he bought the home from 10 years ago?? Now that is two families on a cul de sac in NJ. Extrapolate these four ballots over the entire population of the state of NJ and you have millions of potential fake voters across the state that would be counted as "valid" because the voter rolls were wrong! 2020 was the LEAST SECURE election in our history!

I did not fill out the extra ballots for Trump and mail them. I dropped them off at the police station in town to call attention to this problem. You cannot have a valid election relying on mail-in voting. Check with Oregon where all ballots are mail-in Mail-in voting has to be strictly limited to active military and those in nursing homes or medical reasons signed by a doctor in advance of the election. Everyone can easily show-up on election day and vote IN PERSON! Only then can we properly validate your existence and legal right to vote. France just conducted their presidential election with 80M people in one day using paper ballots and had the results by 10pm the same day! If France can do it, we can do it. We have been doing it for 200+ years before the 2020 election and we can easily do it again of we get rid of fraudulent mail-in voting! We used to have no air travel, does that make air travel invalid?
There are safeguards to prevent more than 1 mail in or other ballot being cast by an individual. You may want to review the voting laws for NJ. What did the police say when you dropped off those ballots - did they exclaim oh my god a crime has been committed.
 
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There are safeguards to prevent more than 1 mail in or other ballot being cast by an individual. You may want to review the voting laws for NJ. What did the police say when you dropped off those ballots - did they exclaim oh my god a crime has been committed.
There are no safeguards for preventing me from fraudulently casting those two extra ballots. The obviously did not purge the Election rolls properly in NJ. I live in a wealthy town where they have an active elections board with the resources to keep track of these issues. I can only imagine what must be happening in Paterson, Jersey City, Trenton, Camden with all the extra ballots that were mailed out!! If I filled out those ballots and mailed them, they would have been counted without question because the previous owners of my house were still on the active voter rolls after leaving the state 18 years ago! I just handed the extra ballots to the desk officer who said thank you and they would look into it and notify the NJ Elections Board.
 

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There are safeguards to prevent more than 1 mail in or other ballot being cast by an individual. You may want to review the voting laws for NJ. What did the police say when you dropped off those ballots - did they exclaim oh my god a crime has been committed.
When we start confirming all the mail in ballots are legit, I'll go to your way of thinking. But the middle of the night stuff , with no witnesses from the opposing party????? Well, I no longer trust anyone, even Penn State grads, because people will do what suits them, not what is honest!
 
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There are no safeguards for preventing me from fraudulently casting those two extra ballots. The obviously did not purge the Election rolls properly in NJ. I live in a wealthy town where they have an active elections board with the resources to keep track of these issues. I can only imagine what must be happening in Paterson, Jersey City, Trenton, Camden with all the extra ballots that were mailed out!! If I filled out those ballots and mailed them, they would have been counted without question because the previous owners of my house were still on the active voter rolls after leaving the state 18 years ago! I just handed the extra ballots to the desk officer who said thank you and they would look into it and notify the NJ Elections Board.
Please support your contention with facts. What part of NJ Voting Law covers how mail-in ballots are verified? You can just post a link.
 

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When we start confirming all the mail in ballots are legit, I'll go to your way of thinking. But the middle of the night stuff , with no witnesses from the opposing party????? Well, I no longer trust anyone, even Penn State grads, because people will do what suits them, not what is honest!
I sure don't trust you!!!
 

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And would you share your reasoning why? I'm not offended with your opinion and would love to be enlightened!
Since you don't trust anyone I can't find any reason to trust you. Part of being trusted is trusting others. If you are so close minded you reject trusting others is an indication of a very biased and dishonest person. I'm sure you won't believe what I say, so go on your merry way.
 
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Since you don't trust anyone I can't find any reason to trust you. Part of being trusted is trusting others. If you are so close minded you reject trusting others is an indication of a very biased and dishonest person. I'm sure you won't believe what I say, so go on your merry way.
Lion, we were talking about politicians, and it appears to me that your trust is one sided. So that means if I'm not on your side or of your opinion, you don't trust me anyhow. So don't make it sound like the reason you don't trust me is because of a conversation on a message board. So we'll end this whole thing with enjoy your day, and let's get back to football.
 

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There are safeguards to prevent more than 1 mail in or other ballot being cast by an individual. You may want to review the voting laws for NJ. What did the police say when you dropped off those ballots - did they exclaim oh my god a crime has been committed.
I have never seen anyone post more bullsh&t for a party than you do. Safeguards. Lmao
 
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