Happy Valley Insider - Penn State adds FIU to 2025 schedule
The Penn State Nittany Lions have added the FIU Golden Panthers to their 2025 schedule.
pennstate.rivals.com
Follow along with the video below to see how to install our site as a web app on your home screen.
Note: This feature may not be available in some browsers.
Looks like a "dumbing down" of the schedule with the new B1G. I don't see a decent non-conference game in 2025 and, maybe, beyond. Looks like the easiest schedule we've had in a long time in 2025 with the only real quality programs being at Ohio State and home to Oregon. Of course, teams like Sparty, Iowa and Nebraska can always jump up but they aren't top-ten programs.Happy Valley Insider - Penn State adds FIU to 2025 schedule
The Penn State Nittany Lions have added the FIU Golden Panthers to their 2025 schedule.pennstate.rivals.com
I can see as we move along and the playoff keeps getting expanded (and it will) that we will measure the success of the season on not making the playoff but how deep we go. Just like the top college basketball programs and the Dance.Looks like a "dumbing down" of the schedule with the new B1G. I don't see a decent non-conference game in 2025 and, maybe, beyond. Looks like the easiest schedule we've had in a long time in 2025 with the only real quality programs being at Ohio State and home to Oregon. Of course, teams like Sparty, Iowa and Nebraska can always jump up but they aren't top-ten programs.
Good thoughts. The idea is to get an early bye or patsy beyond just being in the top 12/14 to get a playoff birth. Being healthy is the wild card.I can see as we move along and the playoff keeps getting expanded (and it will) that we will measure the success of the season on not making the playoff but how deep we go. Just like the top college basketball programs and the Dance.
Oregon has been pretty consistent. Not sure what year we need to go to Oregon probably 2026, that will be very tough. UCLA is nothing great.Geebuss the whole 25 schedule looks weak. Only Oregon at home, suckeyes and UCLA are the only solid programs. And Oregon/ UCLA are not consistently top teams.
Yep, getting byes and high seeds will be the goal. It will be interesting to see how the playoffs shake out but my guess is it will be just like the Dance in hoops and probably even more pronounced. What I mean is that the champ probably will be no lower than a 5 or maybe 6 seed and most times will be a top 4 seed.Good thoughts. The idea is to get an early bye or patsy beyond just being in the top 12/14 to get a playoff birth. Being healthy is the wild card.
its a good point. for the real blue bloods of college football (GA, tOSU, AL, etc.) it will marginalize the regular season. Who cares about winning a B1G championship anymore....just get into the NCAA playoffs as one of the 68 teams.Yep, getting byes and high seeds will be the goal. It will be interesting to see how the playoffs shake out but my guess is it will be just like the Dance in hoops and probably even more pronounced. What I mean is that the champ probably will be no lower than a 5 or maybe 6 seed and most times will be a top 4 seed.
I think it is just the opposite. PSU will have plenty of good teams on the schedule but it does appear 2025 will be a bit of a down year. This coming year we have WVU, Ill, USC, Wicy, tOSU and Washington. All bowl games that had good seasons last year. All were top 20 ranked at some point. tOSU and Washington were two of the four playoff teams.Absolutely pathetic. I’ve been begging for them to buy out the stupid Temple series and fix 2025/2026 and this is a huge step in the wrong direction.
It’s going to (potentially) bite us in the butt with the expanded playoffs as they will be looking at actual strength of schedule. It is not going to look good when our non conference schedule is Nevada, Florida Atlantic and Villanova. 🤮
The bad non conference schedule and then only a couple big conference games versus quality opponents combined with an expanded playoff definitely starts to diminish the regular season.Absolutely pathetic. I’ve been begging for them to buy out the stupid Temple series and fix 2025/2026 and this is a huge step in the wrong direction.
It’s going to (potentially) bite us in the butt with the expanded playoffs as they will be looking at actual strength of schedule. It is not going to look good when our non conference schedule is Nevada, Florida Atlantic and Villanova. 🤮
That's going to the the future now. Interesting non-conference games are going to completely disappear. The regular season continues to lose importance, ignoring that the regular season was one thing that separated college football from the NFL and every other sport. There's no upside to scheduling good non-conference opponents anymore except for maybe increased ticket sales and concessions, but revenue from a mildly increased attendance for 1-2 games a year is nothing compared to the revenue from the media, playoff appearances, etc. Screw the locals and the ticket holders, everything is now for media partners. This is the present and future of the sport. I'm not even a local and I don't like it. Maybe we should hand out a trophy to the football program that makes the most revenue regardless of their win percentage, since that seems to be all they care about anymore.Looks like a "dumbing down" of the schedule with the new B1G. I don't see a decent non-conference game in 2025 and, maybe, beyond. Looks like the easiest schedule we've had in a long time in 2025 with the only real quality programs being at Ohio State and home to Oregon. Of course, teams like Sparty, Iowa and Nebraska can always jump up but they aren't top-ten programs.
Get rid of one of those useless non conference games then start the playoffs earlier. That won't happen because it is all about the money. Who cares about the fan experience. These coaches only want to play tough games in their conference and think that is enough.That's going to the the future now. Interesting non-conference games are going to completely disappear. The regular season continues to lose importance, ignoring that the regular season was one thing that separated college football from the NFL and every other sport. There's no upside to scheduling good non-conference opponents anymore except for maybe increased ticket sales and concessions, but revenue from a mildly increased attendance for 1-2 games a year is nothing compared to the revenue from the media, playoff appearances, etc. Screw the locals and the ticket holders, everything is now for media partners. This is the present and future of the sport. I'm not even a local and I don't like it. Maybe we should hand out a trophy to the football program that makes the most revenue regardless of their win percentage, since that seems to be all they care about anymore.
Agree and disagree. I think PSU's home schedule for this year is one of the best we've seen in over a decade. So I am excited about being able to play teams like USC, Washington and Oregon to go with tOSU, UM and the rest of the B1G. So no complaints there from me.That's going to the the future now. Interesting non-conference games are going to completely disappear. The regular season continues to lose importance, ignoring that the regular season was one thing that separated college football from the NFL and every other sport. There's no upside to scheduling good non-conference opponents anymore except for maybe increased ticket sales and concessions, but revenue from a mildly increased attendance for 1-2 games a year is nothing compared to the revenue from the media, playoff appearances, etc. Screw the locals and the ticket holders, everything is now for media partners. This is the present and future of the sport. I'm not even a local and I don't like it. Maybe we should hand out a trophy to the football program that makes the most revenue regardless of their win percentage, since that seems to be all they care about anymore.
Meh. The “playoff” games are the pathetic money grabs. At least conference championship games have a real meaning and qualification requirements defining them.Get rid of one of those useless non conference games then start the playoffs earlier. That won't happen because it is all about the money. Who cares about the fan experience. These coaches only want to play tough games in their conference and think that is enough.
These conference championship games are also a waste, blatant money grabs. Maybe say we will drop the ccg but you need to play one quality non conf game. Won't happen because of money, money, money.
We're saying the same thing essentially. The only relevant regular season games going forward will be conference games. All non-conference games will be teams that are so weak they are automatic wins. Things were already heading that direction and with the addition of strong new teams to the conference it will cement that scheduling approach in stone. And while in general that looks like a good thing for conference games, it makes each of these big conference games less important. Take last season for example. PSU-OSU and PSU-UM were massive games on a national scale because they had playoff implications. Lose, and you may miss the playoffs. Going forward a loss there means very little making each individual game far less important when viewed in the proverbial vacuum, because each team will have 3-4 such games on their schedule and will be able to lose 2-3 of them and will still be a lock for the playoffs because the Big 10 and SEC playoff deals are being done to ensure that teams with some losses in these power conferences get credit for the strength of the conference and thereby get more playoff bids over the ACC and Big 12. The only games that will carry that sort of huge importance going forward will be the last of the big conference games for teams that hadn't won any of their big matchups to that point putting them in a must win situation, and the playoff games. Non-conference games will be almost meaningless because they will be incredibly noncompetitive. Most regular season games viewed individually become less important. The conference championships loses a ton of importance.Agree and disagree. I think PSU's home schedule for this year is one of the best we've seen in over a decade. So I am excited about being able to play teams like USC, Washington and Oregon to go with tOSU, UM and the rest of the B1G. So no complaints there from me.
The issue, I think, is how we compete for playoff spots against teams like OK State, TCU, Arizona, Utah, and Louisville (to name a few). They will. have much less competitive schedules and will fill out the bottom of the playoff teams.
Just a quick look at one team: OK State who finished ~ 16 last year. They play SD state, Arkansas, Tulsa, Utah, K State, WVU, BYU, Baylor, ASU, TCU, TX Tech, and Colorado. I would argue that not a single one of those programs measures up to USC, Washington, Oregon, UM or tOSU. Utah has had a good year or two but hasn't sustained against USC, Oregon, and Washington. BYU, K State, Baylor, TCU and Colorado are in the Wisconsin/Iowa territory IMHO.
Well, what you are describing is how the “playoff” has continued to completely erode the regular season for college football. What previously was the most awesome regular season in sports - where every game was important - has been constantly diminished due to a focus on “playoffs”.We're saying the same thing essentially. The only relevant regular season games going forward will be conference games. All non-conference games will be teams that are so weak they are automatic wins. Things were already heading that direction and with the addition of strong new teams to the conference it will cement that scheduling approach in stone. And while in general that looks like a good thing for conference games, it makes each of these big conference games less important. Take last season for example. PSU-OSU and PSU-UM were massive games on a national scale because they had playoff implications. Lose, and you may miss the playoffs. Going forward a loss there means very little making each individual game far less important when viewed in the proverbial vacuum, because each team will have 4 such games on their schedule and will be able to lose 2, possibly 3, and will still be a lock for the playoffs. The only games that will carry that sort of importance going forward will be the last of the big conference games for teams that hadn't won any up to that point, and the playoff games. Non-conference games will be almost meaningless because they will be incredibly noncompetitive. Most regular season games viewed individually become less important. The conference championships loses a ton of importance.
Certainly the merchants in State College won't want to give up a home game even if the local economy "is all about the money". And what of all those other teams (and even Penn State) who don't make the playoffs? Should they simply play one less game?Get rid of one of those useless non conference games then start the playoffs earlier. That won't happen because it is all about the money. Who cares about the fan experience. These coaches only want to play tough games in their conference and think that is enough.
These conference championship games are also a waste, blatant money grabs. Maybe say we will drop the ccg but you need to play one quality non conf game. Won't happen because of money, money, money.
Here’s a question: does downtown business drop during these cake walk weekends? I would assume so but wonder if anyone studied it.Certainly the merchants in State College won't want to give up a home game even if the local economy "is all about the money". And what of all those other teams (and even Penn State) who don't make the playoffs? Should they simply play one less game?
The post to which I replied proposed getting rid of them altogether. I've got to think a cakewalk weekend is better economically than no game at all but I'll defer to others' specific knowledge of such things.Here’s a question: does downtown business drop during these cake walk weekends? I would assume so but wonder if anyone studied it.
For one thing they rarely sell out and a lot of season ticket holders don’t show. 100,000 vs 110,000+ people tailgating all game long.
It would also be people with less excess cash to blow. And fewer people spend the night and certainly not the weekend.
And last less foreigners….. fans of the other schools. Who wants to travel hundreds of miles and blow a grand or two to watch your team be down three TDs by the 2nd qtr and lose by 50-60 points?
Seems the merchants wouldn’t want these games either.
Yes but at least previously our big games against OSU and UM were huge games due to the playoff implications. Going forward we get more big conference opponents, but each game is of lesser importance because now you can lose a couple of games still make the playoff. And once they expand to 14 teams and the Big 10 and SEC lock in their contract with more automatic bids than other conferences then you'll be able to lose yet another game and still qualify for the playoff. So you'll have 3 loss teams potentially getting in because it may be mandatory, depending how things fall.Well, what you are describing is how the “playoff” has continued to completely erode the regular season for college football. What previously was the most awesome regular season in sports - where every game was important - has been constantly diminished due to a focus on “playoffs”.
I am willing to be State College has those numbers and is part of the ongoing negotiations with the university, town, and B1G. Lets take a look at the 2023 and the 2025 schedulesHere’s a question: does downtown business drop during these cake walk weekends? I would assume so but wonder if anyone studied it.
For one thing they rarely sell out and a lot of season ticket holders don’t show. 100,000 vs 110,000+ people tailgating all game long.
It would also be people with less excess cash to blow. And fewer people spend the night and certainly not the weekend.
And last less foreigners….. fans of the other schools. Who wants to travel hundreds of miles and blow a grand or two to watch your team be down three TDs by the 2nd qtr and lose by 50-60 points?
Seems the merchants wouldn’t want these games either.
🤮Waiting for us to get left out if the new playoff based on the pathetic non-conference schedule
Season ticket price cut in half for 2025 or will value game prices mean that Oregon is $600?I am willing to be State College has those numbers and is part of the ongoing negotiations with the university, town, and B1G. Lets take a look at the 2023 and the 2025 schedules
2023 home games
- WVU
- Delaware
- Iowa
- UMass
- Indiana
- Michigan
- Rutgers
2025
Pretty close. I would consider the marquee matchups to be a push between UM and Oregon. In 23 you've got WVU, Iowa, Indiana and Rutgers as the mid-tier games. In 25 you've got Indiana, Nebraska and NW. But you've got two crap games in 23 in Delaware and UMass whereas you've got three in 25 with Nevada, FIU and Villanova. One thing about this schedule is we play Iowa, Sparty, and tOSU in a row on the road.
- nevada
- FIU
- Villanova
- Indiana
- Nebraska
- NW
- Oregon
2024 we've got
This is the best home schedule we've seen in several years with W and tOSU matchups. UCLA is cool too as it is a unique opponent although UCLA hasn't been good in a while. There are only two crappy games (BG and kent).
- BGSU
- Kent
- Ill
- UCLA
- Ohio State
- Washington
- MD
Well, it may be an anomaly. The B1G schedule for 25 is very weak whereas the B1G schedule for 24 is awesome with three very cool games (W, tOSU, UCLA). Of course, this year we will be in Morgantown to pay for them being in HV last year.Season ticket price cut in half for 2025 or will value game prices mean that Oregon is $600?
We shouldn't be agreeing to a home and home with a team like WVU. If they want to come here great but otherwise schedule Oklahoma or Texas or FSU or someone meaningful if you're giving up a home game.Well, it may be an anomaly. The B1G schedule for 25 is very weak whereas the B1G schedule for 24 is awesome with three very cool games (W, tOSU, UCLA). Of course, this year we will be in Morgantown to pay for them being in HV last year.
Absolutely pathetic. I’ve been begging for them to buy out the stupid Temple series and fix 2025/2026 and this is a huge step in the wrong direction.
It’s going to (potentially) bite us in the butt with the expanded playoffs as they will be looking at actual strength of schedule. It is not going to look good when our non conference schedule is Nevada, Florida International and Villanova. 🤮
I don't believe it would hurt PSU in the playoff. Win 10 or 11 games including all OOC games and 1 or 2 losses in the B10 and PSU is in. And with only a couple games that really beat the team up it's easier to get rested and healthy for the couple physical games and potentially run the table.Absolutely pathetic. I’ve been begging for them to buy out the stupid Temple series and fix 2025/2026 and this is a huge step in the wrong direction.
It’s going to (potentially) bite us in the butt with the expanded playoffs as they will be looking at actual strength of schedule. It is not going to look good when our non conference schedule is Nevada, Florida International and Villanova. 🤮
Completely disagree when you look at the future non-conference schedules of the SEC and Big Ten. We aren't trying and, if it is held against us, can't complain as we have no one to blame but ourselves.I don't believe it would hurt PSU in the playoff. Win 10 or 11 games including all OOC games and 1 or 2 losses in the B10 and PSU is in. And with only a couple games that really beat the team up it's easier to get rested and healthy for the couple physical games and potentially run the table.
Of course the merchants in State College would like 12 home games or even more. Looking at it from the player and fan standpoint, if these 3 non conference games are total duds then don't play 3.Certainly the merchants in State College won't want to give up a home game even if the local economy "is all about the money". And what of all those other teams (and even Penn State) who don't make the playoffs? Should they simply play one less game?
@temple? lol.Future non con schedules-
2024 FOOTBALL SCHEDULE
Aug. 31st - at West Virginia
Sept. 7th - BOWLING GREEN
Sept. 21st - KENT STATE
2025 FOOTBALL SCHEDULE
Aug. 30th - NEVADA
Sept. 13th - VILLANOVA
Sept. - FIU
2026 FOOTBALL SCHEDULE
Sept. 5th - MARSHALL
Sept. 12th - at Temple
Sept. 19th - SAN JOSE STATE
2027 FOOTBALL SCHEDULE
Sept. 4th - SYRACUSE
Sept. 11th - DELAWARE
Sept. 18th - TEMPLE
2028 FOOTBALL SCHEDULE
Sept. 9th - at Syracuse
NOTE: Two non-conference games to be scheduled
@temple? lol.
Yep. If they wanted to play a game in Philly, just fine someone to play a one off there. Game against Notre Dame, for example, would be perfect.Exactly. Don’t know how they ever agreed to that.
Smart to play a Florida team, regardless.Looks like a "dumbing down" of the schedule with the new B1G. I don't see a decent non-conference game in 2025 and, maybe, beyond. Looks like the easiest schedule we've had in a long time in 2025 with the only real quality programs being at Ohio State and home to Oregon. Of course, teams like Sparty, Iowa and Nebraska can always jump up but they aren't top-ten programs.
Weak OOC schedule. Not even worth attending. Disappointed in HC and AD forthis type of schedule.Future non con schedules-
2024 FOOTBALL SCHEDULE
Aug. 31st - at West Virginia
Sept. 7th - BOWLING GREEN
Sept. 21st - KENT STATE
2025 FOOTBALL SCHEDULE
Aug. 30th - NEVADA
Sept. 13th - VILLANOVA
Sept. - FLORIDA INTERNATIONAL
2026 FOOTBALL SCHEDULE
Sept. 5th - MARSHALL
Sept. 12th - at Temple
Sept. 19th - SAN JOSE STATE
2027 FOOTBALL SCHEDULE
Sept. 4th - SYRACUSE
Sept. 11th - DELAWARE
Sept. 18th - TEMPLE
2028 FOOTBALL SCHEDULE
Sept. 9th - at Syracuse
NOTE: Two non-conference games to be scheduled
The new Big 10 is tough enough now that this is necessary to give yourself the best shot at the expanded playoff.Weak OOC schedule. Not even worth attending. Disappointed in HC and AD forthis type of schedule.
Then explain why everyone else is still scheduling real non conference opponents while we're not? We seem to be the only program not comprehending SOS means more now.The new Big 10 is tough enough now that this is necessary to give yourself the best shot at the expanded playoff.