David Taylor to Oklahoma State & related news
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Seems like an ideal time to open a fast food joint in Stillwater.
2nd paragraph is way over-dramatic.
Only 4 other candidates were interviewed, so at most they only "stepped over" 4 Smith alum to hire an outsider. Realistically only 1 -- Scott.
And "permanently severed ties" ... permanently is a long time unless you're Montell Marion. There are ways to get them back. Even DeSean Jackson made up with the Eagles after those nasty false gang slurs.
I do think it’s much easier to win quick now with the instant portal upgrades you can make. Cael won here his 2nd year which was crazy enough but the portal would have made it even easier
I don't remember much about who is still in (or coming into) OK St's Stable, but they could add:
- Allirez
- Hamiti
- Barraclaugh
- Hendrickson
PS There's no chance Bonnie is in play, IMO. I was actually a bit concerned, because she seemed to be MIA later last season, and is looking somewhat frail these days.
That lady is a groomer. What a freak. That’s the crazy OSU story that I was alluding to yesterday @vhsalum
Hamiti is already there. Alirez would be great but I wonder what Jamison would do then? He’s tough and has 3 more years. Barraclough maybe but they got Hamiti and Fish at his weight. Not that he couldn’t beat one of them but both guys just transferred in. Will be interesting to see who jumps at the chance to be coached by DT
Agreed, though one big difference is that PSU already had 3 future NCAA champs on the roster when Cael arrived.
It's hard to ID a future finalist on OKST's current roster, with eligibility beyond 2025. Carroll maybe, depending on his weight. Spratley? Hughes? Merrill and Lockett aren't on campus yet, too early to say with them.
David will need to import higher-end talent (which may be in short supply) while establishing his culture. Eaaier said than done.
What do you mean
There's going to be portal talent available coming from Penn State in the near future where they don't have a spot in the lineup here. It started with Gibson, who is still out there for DT to grab if he wants, but between Mesenbrink, Haines, Facundo, Sealey, Ryder, Duke, Henckel, and Barr, at least one is going to be the odd man out. DT should have the inside track on those types of guys.
A lot of people are ignoring that Bearclaw is making a grad transfer for academic reasons.
Him going to OKST is highly unlikely, before considering the roster fit.
I wouldn't read too much into DT's tweet. If you go back and reread all the posts on this topic, they were flying back and forth all day. True or not true? Offer accepted or offer declined? If there were still some negotiations with OSU to be hammered out, I'll bet DT was mentally drained by the end of the day. He probably didn't have much left to sit and compose a long tweet to the Penn State fans.
Care to elaborate for those of us not in the know?
Gibson is not still out there.
And while some of those guys might leave PSU early, and David would have an inside track, that's not enough.
Mixed feelings here. He and his wife had enough going on in the State College area to keep him in the NLWC which is what I would have liked. But it is also nice to see him go out and try to build something himself. Best of luck to him. First time coach in a far off land.... Will be a challenge.
How long was he going to be at the NLWC if not a coach? Six months? And if you're going to be a coach, then OSU trumps the NLWC in stature and money and really anything. If he had stayed in State College, he may have well just quit the NLWC and concentrated on M2 and all the other side businesses he had going. So to me, he essentially left six months early. I think he was nearly done benefitting from the NLWC and vice versa. He always seemed easier around younger wrestlers, and that is where he heart probably is at. Lots of ego in an RTC.
Maybe- winning heals everything for sure.
While it may be overly dramatic to say that ties are permanently severed, at least until the winning starts, I don't think it's overly dramatic to assume that the DNA of the Oklahoma State program, and likely college wrestling, changed with this hire. There are almost certainly hard feelings today, maybe they go away tomorrow, maybe they don't, where the OSU guys coaching are wondering why they had to go after a guy with no experience when OSU guys not only had it but would love to have the job. This isn't just hiring a guy who hasn't coached at all at the level, this isn't just a guy with no Oklahoma State background, this is all of them.
Do I think DT should care? No. Do I think the university should care? No.
This gives Iowa, whether they realize it or not (or are smart enough to realize it then act on it) cover to leave the Gable umbrella, so to speak.
He also has a million things to do and a lot of them needed to be done yesterday. If this was a retirement I'd expect a goodbye tour and a series of long, mushy tweets but he's got a lot of sh*t to do that is more important right now. Wife, kids, coaching hires, portal, OSU admin, attorney, M2, K2, plus a 100 more that need immediate attention. His tweet is the 1 minute version and exactly what I would expect.
Academic reasons too, unless he has an interest in petroleum engineering.
Give someone credit at Okie State for recognizing the reality of the situation. John Smith's way was not working. Okie State wants to be great at wrestling, is tired of underachieving. To bring in one a Smith proteges and think it was going to be any different would be stupid.
They went out and got the one guy who could come in and shake things up and leap frog much of the competition. With Taylor they hired a rock star who will be able to walk into any recruit's house in the country and have them interested. Other than hiring Cael, they could not have done any better. Taylor can coach, M2 proves that. At Okie State, he can bring in any recruit in the country as long as they can spell their name.
He just has to focus on bringing in talented wrestlers who fit his culture and coaching them up. Recruiting is one thing any coach has to do to be successful, probably the most important part of the job. He will excel in recruiting. All the other stuff, admin staff can handle. Regarding NIL, everyone is trying to figure that out.
One of the best collateral consequences of this entire "DT to OkSt" saga is Chris Perry will now be unemployed.
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Even Cael needed a transfer for that first one.
hey dee comeback after you win 4 titles!!LOL
Yeah feels like the pokes decided to succeed unconventionally rather than fail conventionally.
Carter’s gonna Carter! I love his passion, but when he becomes a father, he may see things differently. DT is making a decision for his entire family, not just himself.
I forgot they have Merrill coming in. I think that kid is a national champion contender from day 1 but not sure about the rest. Lockett is obviously extremely good but he’s at a weight where PSU will be extremely strong for the foreseeable future. Whether it’s MM, Levi, Sealey, Duke, etc I like PSU chances there. Not sold on Hughes at all but Spratley is good. Still, Lilledahl has beaten him multiple times in free and I don’t see that changing in folk. So I agree with you that lots more talent is needed. Pretty decent base to start from though
I agree. He's looking forward to finger painting again.
No (they have Fish, Hamiti), Yes, Yes, No (I think Alirez goes 149), Yes (if he can go 157)
With DT and more than likely Gilman's NLWC budget now available, what would the reaction be on GIA if Cael lands Spencer? You know, endless deep pockets and all 🤣😂
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you’ll get yianni and like it
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