Wow, I listened to that, but had to shut it off well short. Those 2 idiots were making a complete mockery out of the entire situation. It was not a serious interview and was really hard to listen too. I wanted to chime in so badly, but obviously couldn't LOL.... Those fools choose to be blind about it, (but most are unfortunately).
I've noticed that 1 on 1 interviews go much better than than 1 on 3 or whatever. They feed off each other and only makes interviews unbearable to listen to and gets you absolutely no where. Ziegler needs to try to do only 1 on 1 interviews otherwise they will all turn out like this. Waste of time for him as well as anyone who listens. However, I'm sure it was great for all the haters and small minded folks though. It gave them the exact crap they want to hear.
OK, I'm off my soap box now...