5 for 5, 35 points ahead of the second place team, 60 ahead of the 3rd place team and "we can do certain things better." Got to love it."
Wrestling Wrestling Session 6 - 2022 NCAA Championships Results and Discussion thread
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Spencer chose Iowa mostly because of their lightweight world team trial results, and no one could blame him. A Princeton, Cornell, Duke or Stanford degree speaks for themselves. After that, if what a kid wants is a national championship then there is a single choice, PSU. Everybody else is a backup plan.
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Mother too, and yes I did.
JS, no offense but this is your 6-7 post this weekend where you open up with … people laughing at you. You aren’t a victim. Your team just won a team championship and 5 individual champs.
Those posts are directed toward my Iowa buddies and they know it. It’s this thing we do to keep things moving along amongst ourselves. And do you really think I feel like a victim? You don’t know me very well then. When they do laugh at me I’m always expecting them to and run me off their board. Why would I do that you might ask? Because when the seasons over I like to remind them of it all. Wouldn’t be any fun if I didn’t.
More to your point though, I haven’t changed my m.o. on these boards for years if ever. It’s my thing to “play” with Hawk fans and it’s their thing to “toy” with me. I don’t think it’ll change so probably best to just block my posts from now on so you don’t have to deal with it.
K…. Good talk. Btw, no offense taken…
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Yeah, but you aren't Carter. Dude is a different animal. So brutal physically and in honesty, yet humble. There is a level of mental toughness in that kid that may be on a 1 in a million level.
And to sound a little HRish, Spencer could have gone to Old Dominion, the Citadel, Bloomsburg or SUNY-Bing and been a 3 time champ.
In Cael’s first championship 4-peat, PSU averaged 144.9 pts at Big Tens and 121.0 pts at NCAAs. PSU had 14 individual champions at Big Tens and 8 at NCAAs.
2011-2014:
- 83.5% pts at NCAAs vs Big Tens
- 57.1 % (individual) NCAA champions vs Big Tens
In his second 4-peat, things changed dramatically. 146.5 pts avg at Big Tens and 137.1 pts avg at NCAAs. 12 individual champions at Big Tens and 14 at NCAAs.
(The points and individual champions at Big Tens remained about the same, but they increased tremendously at NCAAs.)
2016-2019:
- 93.6% pts NCAAs vs Big Tens
- 116.7 % (individual) NCAA champs vs Big Tens
The 2016+ trend has continued these past two seasons:
2021-2022:
- 92.3% pts at NCAAs vs Big Tens
- 150% (individual) NCAA champs vs Big Tens
I’ve often wondered if the 2014-2015 season was much more than just a “punt” year. The statistics seem to indicate that there may have been a substantive change in training philosophy. Or at least in post-season training focus.
Or maybe they just got better at what they do. But things changed considerably after the 2014-2015 reset and they were pretty darn good even before it.
2011-2014:
- 83.5% pts at NCAAs vs Big Tens
- 57.1 % (individual) NCAA champions vs Big Tens
In his second 4-peat, things changed dramatically. 146.5 pts avg at Big Tens and 137.1 pts avg at NCAAs. 12 individual champions at Big Tens and 14 at NCAAs.
(The points and individual champions at Big Tens remained about the same, but they increased tremendously at NCAAs.)
2016-2019:
- 93.6% pts NCAAs vs Big Tens
- 116.7 % (individual) NCAA champs vs Big Tens
The 2016+ trend has continued these past two seasons:
2021-2022:
- 92.3% pts at NCAAs vs Big Tens
- 150% (individual) NCAA champs vs Big Tens
I’ve often wondered if the 2014-2015 season was much more than just a “punt” year. The statistics seem to indicate that there may have been a substantive change in training philosophy. Or at least in post-season training focus.
Or maybe they just got better at what they do. But things changed considerably after the 2014-2015 reset and they were pretty darn good even before it.
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Thanks for remembering!
This week was our 10th anniversary -- 2012 -- which according to HR logic means our relationship had started 2 years before.
Since 2016:
PSU scores 93.2% as many pts at NCAAs as they do at Big Tens.
Iowa is at 76.3%.
These are some DAMN fine photos!I'm not sure if this is posted elsewhere on the board, but here's a link to Mark Selders' photo gallery from the finals.
Ok just to be clear, this is NOT Lemon Pie posting under another name, but there’s one more thing about the PSU team that never gets mentioned. The whole team is a bunch of really good looking guys! Wish there were a few women posting here too. I’d like to hear their opinion.
Zain, Nolf, Vincenzo, Nico, Quinton are five I can count off the top of my head. They also account for 11 titles among them
Cael has produced 32 Individual Champions in his tenure at PSU including this year - 50% of them were won by Pennsylvania Scholastic wrestlers. In his first 5 years, Cael produced 8 Individual Champions, 5 of which were Pennsylvania Scholastic wrestling products. Given that the Iowa posters were ridiculing Cael's statements regarding building a dynasty in Pennsylvania, I'd have to say Cael's comments were pretty prescient, while those of his Iowa critics were pretty shortsighted and ignorant.
I think it was the Iowa refusal to acknowledge that PA was the best state in the country for high school wrestling. They still cling to that belief today. I hope it continues to serve them well long into the future (sarcasm font for this last sentence). 😉
I mean wtf. Of course psu. What are you talking about. Why would anyone want a Minnesota tshirt. Because one guy won it. We had 5 and a team champ. If you want to buy a Minnesota shirt then you are on the wrong site.
outside of the top x, what the PSU guys are doing is winning multiple championships... that is difficult no matter what the recruit #
nope, now they say it is simply due to PA's population compared to Iowa's
45 qualifiers from Pa; 13 from Iowa.
12 AAs from PA; 1 from Iowa.
PA had basically the same number of AAs as Iowa had qualifiers.
Interesting as Pennsylvania produced wrestlers have consistently accounted for approximately 15% of NCAA D1 AAs over the last half century but PA only accounts for about 4% of the US population.
after dean won, espn was real quick last night to show a chart of schools and the years they had 5 champs at nattys.
i didn’t see it long enough; anyone know the details? i think iowa did it once and okie state too, when cormier was there as he was talking about the list they were showing
Several schools did it twice like we did. He was saying ok state 2005 was best. The other guy said no bias there.
Several schools have done it twice like PSU? Don't think so, pretty sure Iowa is the only other school other than PSU to record 5 Chanps two different years. Cormier's Alma Mater, Okie State, has only done it once I believe.... and those are the only 5 teams that have ever recorded 5 Champs in a single season (i.e., PSU 2x, Iowa 2x and Okie State 1x).
Someone on twitter said Jacob Warner's dad stood up and clapped for Max after the match
That makes sense. Jacob Warner has been cited on this board for his after match class on a few occasions.
I spent the whole weekend sitting directly across the aisle from his dad (and the entire VaTech contingent). They were great fans, very into the action, not obnoxious, and seemed to be enjoying themselves through the highs and lows.
I got a nice photo of Mekhi hugging his dad after he returned to the stands last night after the finals. I’ll try to figure out how to post it since this board inexplicably doesn’t allow uploading photos to posts.
why do we always hear about how many more people Pa has than iowa but we dont hear Pa say how many more people tx fla cal have???LOL they are a joke
Not to mention, the big population centers in PA (Philly, city of Pittsburgh) normally don't produce much talent.
I told an Iowa fan that any team in district 11 in PA could beat any Iowa all star team lol. Didn't go over very well. Truth hurts lol
