You're right. PSU was not prepared at nationals last year -- not prepared to win five individual titles. They only won four. What a tremendous disappointment. How many individual titles did your Hawks win?
who had the bigger W last night?
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I remember gibbons and his partner discussing at big tens a few years back that teams better change their mentality about winning and being aggressive offensively or they would never catch Penn state. Doesn't appear anyone was listening lol.
MVP (Most Valuable Post?) on this thread. Can’t see how anyone could disagree with anything you said.
Spot on, the last Iowa National Champ not named Spencer Lee was Corey Clark in 2017. Considering the elite recruits and transfers Iowa has brought in over the last several years, that is atrocious. Why any top recruit projected over 133 would consider Iowa is beyond me.
No shit. I believe PSU had the 5th most all-time AAs behind Iowa, Okie State, Iowa State and Oklahoma at the time Cael took over the program.
Really? That's how Cael and PSU won the National Championship in 2011 in his second year at PSU??? LMAO, what a tool.
He's an infiltrator from the parallel universe known to us as HR. His gibberish is spewed throughout said universe whose laws of logic do not apply in our universe.
Fans everywhere: We once had an AA who was a 2* recruit. Why doesn't the coach fill the roster with 2*s?
Oh no, your jealous alright. How could you not be? If not, why in the hell would you expend as much time and energy as you do over here trying to poison the water?
Obviously Penn state recruits as good as anyone. I’m not sure you can compare them to the Yankees when the two best college wrestlers in the sport right now are not on Penn state. Lee and Gable.
I know how Lee’s recruiting went but did Penn State ever try and make a run at Gable?
I know how Lee’s recruiting went but did Penn State ever try and make a run at Gable?
To me Penn State has the Jimmie’s and joe’s and the X’s and O’s Lol. They get great wrestlers and they have by far the best coach.
Dipped a toe in the water but didn't push very hard. Everybody knew Steveson was going to Minny.
Better way to say it, PSU wrestlers throw deep wizzers and all the other programs, just a wizzer!😉
Damn, youz guyz are thin skinned. Lighten up Francis.
PSU has something going on there that gives them a distinct ability to land an amazing number of top recruits. It far surpasses any other D1 program. Still youz guyz are vulnerable, see mid-season move ins and having to recruit over All-American Beard. I’m really not jealous of it. I enjoyed the 1993 Phillies way more than any Steinbrenner Yankees team.
I do find it amusing how bringing up the one thing that separates your program is met with such discomfort.
PSU has something going on there that gives them a distinct ability to land an amazing number of top recruits. It far surpasses any other D1 program. Still youz guyz are vulnerable, see mid-season move ins and having to recruit over All-American Beard. I’m really not jealous of it. I enjoyed the 1993 Phillies way more than any Steinbrenner Yankees team.
I do find it amusing how bringing up the one thing that separates your program is met with such discomfort.
What the Yankees did to you must really be unspeakable. Im so sorry for this.
Here’s a short article that encapsulates my observation over the last couple years….
Penn State Rivals PSU Wrestling Recruiting 2021
Penn State Rivals PSU Wrestling Recruiting 2021
This is true now. The question for you and fans of other schools is; how vulnerable will this team be over the next 3 seasons? They are going to be a problem. And a healthy PSU team is going to be very hard to beat. Remember, without the Covid free pass Iowa would be an afterthought this year. Circumstance cuts both ways.
And as a side note about Max Dean and Brady Berge, I realize that it is a fun way to poke the bear. But I also realize that you read enough about NCAA wrestling on line to know what the circumstances were behind those moves. It is no different than non-Hawkeye fans tossing grenades about burned red-shirts. Those moves were irrelevant to the individuals and the team. We know that. But it is fun to make fun of.
Actually it's not true at all -- Cael did not recruit over Beard. Dean recruited PSU.
In the Hawk mind, Cael should've turned him away just like Brands did to Lugo and Eierman.
I think the Yankees analogy fits pretty well. Little kids world wide on little leage fields grow up dremaing of playing shortstop for the NY Yankees. Little kid wrestlers grow up dreaming of wrestling for Cael and PSU. The Yankees are synonymous with the World Series and baseball and PSU is synonymous with NCAA dominance and team titles. Very few kids grow up dreaming of playing shortstop for the royals or wrestling for the hawkeyes.
I agree. My observations are:
1. PSU puts ability+fit as the #1 criteria. We have missed on some champions, but we also miss less often on those we bring in.
2. PSU is very selective on our recruits. Penn State doesn't bring in classes of 8. It is a rifle vs shotgun approach and that makes the culture/scholarships easier to maintain.
3. PSU invariably picks up guys that just plain want to come to Penn State and nowhere else, and their families pay to send them there.
4. PSU realized early the power of a world class RTC. Now everyone else is playing catch up. But it takes a while to catch up, as we are seeing.
I'm going with Kerk. This year, with a whole (healthy) year to prep, Kerk looks like the real deal and I think he will give Gable Steveson all he wants. Carson Kharchla beating the Bull was also very impressive, but I attribute much of that to the way Marinelli has been wrestling this year...just not his same assertive/aggressive self. I think if they meet again Kerk will win again because he's better than Mason. However, I don't think Kharchla is better than the Bull, at least not yet.
Not really sure, or sure that it matters. They both got good W's over quality opponents. Will say, though, that Kerkvliet's W may not have been quite the upset some thought it was.
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If Kerk adds a toothpick to his panoply, Gable will lose.
