Where's Oz?

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Lots of TV ads showing Oz as a rich guy with mansions everywhere but Fetterman being a real PA guy with his only home in Bradford.

No Oz ads.
 
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An altered state
Lots of TV ads showing Oz as a rich guy with mansions everywhere but Fetterman being a real PA guy with his only home in Bradford.

No Oz ads.
He has been doing local events all across the state, including interviews with local outlets. Which Fetterman can’t do.

Fetterman has a huge cash war chest. Oz spent a ton winning the primaries. Unless people step up that will give Fetterman a big advantage. Oz is personally wealthy .....don’t know how much of his own money he is willing to spend.

So it might come down to who wins.....the weird guy with money that is too weak to campaign or the energenic guy without money? Oz will likely spend a lot of his own money the last month as needed.
 

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He has been doing local events all across the state, including interviews with local outlets. Which Fetterman can’t do.

Fetterman has a huge cash war chest. Oz spent a ton winning the primaries. Unless people step up that will give Fetterman a big advantage. Oz is personally wealthy .....don’t know how much of his own money he is willing to spend.

So it might come down to who wins.....the weird guy with money that is too weak to campaign or the energenic guy without money? Oz will likely spend a lot of his own money the last month as needed.
Fetterman is going to take the Biden approach.
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Lots of TV ads showing Oz as a rich guy with mansions everywhere but Fetterman being a real PA guy with his only home in Bradford.

No Oz ads.

Doc Hollywood has run adds. The problem is that he just can't quite connect with normal human beings and Fetterman just destroys him.




 

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OZ apparently effective in personal campaigning. This according to Salena Zito, one of the most knowledgeable commentators on PA politics.

Salena Zito: In travels across Pennsylvania, Mehmet Oz looks to capture anti-elite sentiment​


If there’s one thing Mr. Oz can’t be accused of during this Senate race with Democratic Lt. Gov. John Fetterman, it’s failing to show up. He’s seemingly everywhere, except the airwaves.

In July and August, Mr. Oz has traveled by car or truck over 3,500 miles to 30 different counties making 139 stops in cities, suburbs and rural towns across the state. From the barber shops of Kensington in Philadelphia to the suburbs of Pittsburgh and all points in between, he’s been meeting voters where they are, something Mr. Oz said he finds extraordinarily rewarding.

While Mr. Oz slogs across the state, the national press is mostly writing stories about his opponent, traveling to Braddock as if they were on an anthropological mission to tell the exotic story of the Democrat who looks like their vision of a Donald Trump supporter, and who often tweets like Mr. Trump, as well.


Mr. Oz, for his part, has found his stride getting personal — knocking on doors, asking questions and getting to know what issues are most important to Pennsylvania voters. And he does it well, something few who haven’t followed him around the state understand.


As one Democrat said after meeting Mr. Oz just outside the City Mission in Washington County, “I was really prepared to hate him, I really was — turned out that ‘so-and-so’ was a really great guy, listened to my concerns, and I’m going to vote for him.”
 
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OZ apparently effective in personal campaigning. This according to Salena Zito, one of the most knowledgeable commentators on PA politics.

Salena Zito: In travels across Pennsylvania, Mehmet Oz looks to capture anti-elite sentiment​


If there’s one thing Mr. Oz can’t be accused of during this Senate race with Democratic Lt. Gov. John Fetterman, it’s failing to show up. He’s seemingly everywhere, except the airwaves.

In July and August, Mr. Oz has traveled by car or truck over 3,500 miles to 30 different counties making 139 stops in cities, suburbs and rural towns across the state. From the barber shops of Kensington in Philadelphia to the suburbs of Pittsburgh and all points in between, he’s been meeting voters where they are, something Mr. Oz said he finds extraordinarily rewarding.

While Mr. Oz slogs across the state, the national press is mostly writing stories about his opponent, traveling to Braddock as if they were on an anthropological mission to tell the exotic story of the Democrat who looks like their vision of a Donald Trump supporter, and who often tweets like Mr. Trump, as well.


Mr. Oz, for his part, has found his stride getting personal — knocking on doors, asking questions and getting to know what issues are most important to Pennsylvania voters. And he does it well, something few who haven’t followed him around the state understand.

As one Democrat said after meeting Mr. Oz just outside the City Mission in Washington County, “I was really prepared to hate him, I really was — turned out that ‘so-and-so’ was a really great guy, listened to my concerns, and I’m going to vote for him.”
That’s the difference .
 

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The problem with Oz is he has no counter to the Carpetbagger label because he kind of is.

Fetterman is like all ultra-liberal candidates. They all just see the special interest climate money as necessary and what is good for the people. Some how in their minds raising the cost and limiting the availability of energy is good for the common people. I don't understand that approach but I know other liberal politicians locally and they believe the same thing.

They can't wrap their heads around raising prices on goods and services is not good for the every man they think they represent.
 

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That’s all Fetterman has — gimmicks. Fetterman was the one born with a silver spoon in his mouth, not OZ. OZ is a self-made man.

No.

  • The minimum wage should be a living wage of at least $15 an hour. All work has dignity, and all paychecks must too.
  • Health care is a fundamental human right – just like housing, food, and education.
  • Climate change is an existential threat. We need to transition to clean energy as quickly as possible, and we can create millions of good union jobs in the process.
  • Weed should be legal, nationwide — for jobs, justice, veterans, farmers, and revenue. It’s time to end the failed war on drugs.
  • Immigration is what makes America, America. We need a compassionate response to immigration reform that actually treats immigrants like human beings.
  • Black Lives Matter. John served as mayor of a city that’s more than 80% Black, and has championed the idea that Black lives matter since long before it became a hashtag.
  • The union way of life is sacred. It’s what built this nation, and it must be protected.
  • A woman’s right to an abortion is non-negotiable. Women should have control over their own bodies and their own lives. Period.
  • LGBTQIA+ communities deserve equal protections under the law. John has always stood for equality, and was one of the first elected officials in PA to officiate a same-sex wedding – when it was still illegal.
  • Get corporate money out of politics. John refuses contributions from corporate PACs, and he signed the “No Fossil Fuel Money” Pledge.
 
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Thanks, rumble for the Fetterman platform, which looks like the standard liberal/progressive approach.

Tell us more about his position here:
  • Climate change is an existential threat. We need to transition to clean energy as quickly as possible, and we can create millions of good union jobs in the process.
Does "clean energy" include natural gas? Is he in favor of fracking, which has been a major economic development for PA?

How does the climate change agenda translate to "millions of good union jobs"? Be specific, if possible.
 

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No.

  • The minimum wage should be a living wage of at least $15 an hour. All work has dignity, and all paychecks must too.
  • Health care is a fundamental human right – just like housing, food, and education.
  • Climate change is an existential threat. We need to transition to clean energy as quickly as possible, and we can create millions of good union jobs in the process.
  • Weed should be legal, nationwide — for jobs, justice, veterans, farmers, and revenue. It’s time to end the failed war on drugs.
  • Immigration is what makes America, America. We need a compassionate response to immigration reform that actually treats immigrants like human beings.
  • Black Lives Matter. John served as mayor of a city that’s more than 80% Black, and has championed the idea that Black lives matter since long before it became a hashtag.
  • The union way of life is sacred. It’s what built this nation, and it must be protected.
  • A woman’s right to an abortion is non-negotiable. Women should have control over their own bodies and their own lives. Period.
  • LGBTQIA+ communities deserve equal protections under the law. John has always stood for equality, and was one of the first elected officials in PA to officiate a same-sex wedding – when it was still illegal.
  • Get corporate money out of politics. John refuses contributions from corporate PACs, and he signed the “No Fossil Fuel Money” Pledge.
Fetterman is further left than Sanders and you are a self-proclaimed independent. I don’t see middle of the road policies there. It’s a head scratcher that you are supportive of him, yet he doesn’t espouse policies that can be taken from both parties.
 

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Unions did not build America. Biggest lie of the left. Unions have never been more than 20% of the workforce in America. Today, it's about 11%. But hey, the other 80% did nothing. Lmao.
 

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No.

  • The minimum wage should be a living wage of at least $15 an hour. All work has dignity, and all paychecks must too.
  • Health care is a fundamental human right – just like housing, food, and education.
  • Climate change is an existential threat. We need to transition to clean energy as quickly as possible, and we can create millions of good union jobs in the process.
  • Weed should be legal, nationwide — for jobs, justice, veterans, farmers, and revenue. It’s time to end the failed war on drugs.
  • Immigration is what makes America, America. We need a compassionate response to immigration reform that actually treats immigrants like human beings.
  • Black Lives Matter. John served as mayor of a city that’s more than 80% Black, and has championed the idea that Black lives matter since long before it became a hashtag.
  • The union way of life is sacred. It’s what built this nation, and it must be protected.
  • A woman’s right to an abortion is non-negotiable. Women should have control over their own bodies and their own lives. Period.
  • LGBTQIA+ communities deserve equal protections under the law. John has always stood for equality, and was one of the first elected officials in PA to officiate a same-sex wedding – when it was still illegal.
  • Get corporate money out of politics. John refuses contributions from corporate PACs, and he signed the “No Fossil Fuel Money” Pledge.
All of that is Marxist nonsense.
 

bourbon n blues

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Fetterman is further left than Sanders and you are a self-proclaimed independent. I don’t see middle of the road policies there. It’s a head scratcher that you are supportive of him, yet he doesn’t espouse policies that can be taken from both parties.
Independents usually are leftist who don't want to say they're leftists, not always but more so than not.
 
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Fetterman is further left than Sanders and you are a self-proclaimed independent. I don’t see middle of the road policies there. It’s a head scratcher that you are supportive of him, yet he doesn’t espouse policies that can be taken from both parties.

Isn't Sanders one of the most popular elected officials in Congress?
 

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Isn't Sanders one of the most popular elected officials in Congress?
Yes. We have many people in this country who want to believe a utopian society can exist. The people such as Sanders and Fetterman who lead the charge have been in government nearly their entire adult lives but have nothing to show for it. They’re popular. That’s it. Every policy they believe in must be implemented with other peoples money. It’s never their own from building something in the real world.
 

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Yes. We have many people in this country who want to believe a utopian society can exist. The people such as Sanders and Fetterman who lead the charge have been in government nearly their entire adult lives but have nothing to show for it. They’re popular. That’s it. Every policy they believe in must be implemented with other peoples money. It’s never their own from building something in the real world.

I know it's crazy to thing that people will vote for a candidate the will make their lives better instead of worse. Go figure.
 

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  • The minimum wage should be a living wage of at least $15 an hour. All work has dignity, and all paychecks must too.
  • Health care is a fundamental human right – just like housing, food, and education.
  • Climate change is an existential threat. We need to transition to clean energy as quickly as possible, and we can create millions of good union jobs in the process.
  • Weed should be legal, nationwide — for jobs, justice, veterans, farmers, and revenue. It’s time to end the failed war on drugs.
  • Immigration is what makes America, America. We need a compassionate response to immigration reform that actually treats immigrants like human beings.
  • Black Lives Matter. John served as mayor of a city that’s more than 80% Black, and has championed the idea that Black lives matter since long before it became a hashtag.
  • The union way of life is sacred. It’s what built this nation, and it must be protected.
  • A woman’s right to an abortion is non-negotiable. Women should have control over their own bodies and their own lives. Period.
  • LGBTQIA+ communities deserve equal protections under the law. John has always stood for equality, and was one of the first elected officials in PA to officiate a same-sex wedding – when it was still illegal.
  • Get corporate money out of politics. John refuses contributions from corporate PACs, and he signed the “No Fossil Fuel Money” Pledge.
Well, I'm now well-aware that I'm a conservative...
 

bourbon n blues

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Yes. We have many people in this country who want to believe a utopian society can exist. The people such as Sanders and Fetterman who lead the charge have been in government nearly their entire adult lives but have nothing to show for it. They’re popular. That’s it. Every policy they believe in must be implemented with other peoples money. It’s never their own from building something in the real world.
And both didn’t work real jobs before government .
 

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No.

  • The minimum wage should be a living wage of at least $15 an hour. All work has dignity, and all paychecks must too.
  • Health care is a fundamental human right – just like housing, food, and education.
  • Climate change is an existential threat. We need to transition to clean energy as quickly as possible, and we can create millions of good union jobs in the process.
  • Weed should be legal, nationwide — for jobs, justice, veterans, farmers, and revenue. It’s time to end the failed war on drugs.
  • Immigration is what makes America, America. We need a compassionate response to immigration reform that actually treats immigrants like human beings.
  • Black Lives Matter. John served as mayor of a city that’s more than 80% Black, and has championed the idea that Black lives matter since long before it became a hashtag.
  • The union way of life is sacred. It’s what built this nation, and it must be protected.
  • A woman’s right to an abortion is non-negotiable. Women should have control over their own bodies and their own lives. Period.
  • LGBTQIA+ communities deserve equal protections under the law. John has always stood for equality, and was one of the first elected officials in PA to officiate a same-sex wedding – when it was still illegal.
  • Get corporate money out of politics. John refuses contributions from corporate PACs, and he signed the “No Fossil Fuel Money” Pledge.
All liberal talking points and very simplistic answers.
 

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