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What team records will fall (or be challenged) this year?

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. . . And who will rise on the team ladder in various categories?

A. # of Career Wins - the record is the safe

Nickal (90 wins) is at #39 now and Nolf (86 wins) is at #44

B. Career win percentage:

1 Ed Ruth 2011-2014 136-3-0 97.8%
2 David Taylor 2011-2014 134-3-0 97.8%
3 Zain Retherford 2014-2018 126-3-0 97.7%
4 Bo Nickal 2016-2018 90-3-0 96.8%
5 Andy Matter 1970-1972 58-2-0 96.7%
6 Jason Nolf 2016-2018 86-3-0 96.6%
7 Mark Hall 2017-2018 63-4-0 94.0%


C. Career Falls:

1 David Taylor 2011-2014 53
1 Zain Retherford 2014-2018 53
1 Josh Moore 2001-2004 53
4 Ed Ruth 2011-2014 46
5 Jason Nolf 2016-2018 45
6 Bo Nickal 2016-2018 41

D. Career Fall percentage of matches wrestled:

1 Ross Shaffer 1936-1938 19 31 61.3%
2 Jason Nolf 2016-2018 45 88 51.1%
3 S.S. Rumbaugh 1925-1926 9 20 45.0%
4 Bo Nickal 2016-2018 41 92 44.6%
 
E. Career Tech Falls

1 David Taylor 2011-2014 42
2 Jim Martin 1986-1989 27
3 Ed Ruth 2011-2014 25
4 Jason Nolf 2016-2018 22

F. Career Bonus Point Wins

1 David Taylor 2011-2014 125
2 Ed Ruth 2011-2014 104
3 Zain Retherford 2014-2018 95
4 Jim Martin 1986-1989 92
5 Jason Nolf 2016-2018 77
6 Matt Brown 2012-2015 76
7 Josh Moore 2001-2004 74
8 Sanshiro Abe 1993-1996 72
9 Bo Nickal 2016-2018 67

G. Career Bonus Points Wins as % of matches wrestled

1 David Taylor 2011-2014 125 137 91.2%
2 Jason Nolf 2016-2018 77 88 87.5%
3 Ed Ruth 2011-2014 104 137 75.9%
4 Zain Retherford 2014-2018 95 126 75.4%
5 Bo Nickal 2016-2018 67 92 72.8%
6 Mark Hall 2017-2018 44 65 67.7%

7 Jeff Prescott 1989-1992 65 102 63.7%
8 Nick Lee 2018-2018 25 40 62.5%
9 Ross Shaffer 1936-1938 19 31 61.3%
10 Andrew Alton 2011-2014 47 80 58.8%
11 Shakur Rasheed 2016-2018 34 58 58.6%
12 Cary Kolat 1993-1994 38 65 58.5%
12 Matt Brown 2012-2015 76 130 58.5%
14 Jim Martin 1986-1989 92 164 56.1%
15 Sanshiro Abe 1993-1996 72 137 52.6%
16 Garrett Scott 2008-2008 13 25 52.0%
17 Vincenzo Joseph 2017-2018 27 52 51.9%
 
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H. Single Season Falls

1 Josh Moore 2004 24
2 Scott Moore 2003 22
3 Cary Kolat 1994 20
4 Andrew Alton 2011 18
5 Zain Retherford 2017 17
5 Bo Nickal 2017 17
5 Zain Retherford 2018 17
8 Josh Moore 2003 16
8 David Taylor 2014 16
8 Jason Nolf 2018 16
8 Bo Nickal 2018 16

I. Single Season Tech Falls

1 David Taylor 2011 15
2 Jason Nolf 2016 11
3 David Taylor 2013 10
4 Jim Martin 1987 9
4 Jeff Prescott 1992 9
4 David Taylor 2012 9
4 Ed Ruth 2014 9
8 Jim Martin 1989 8
8 David Taylor 2014 8
8 Zain Retherford 2016 8
8 Jason Nolf 2017 8
8 Nick Lee 2018 8

J. Single Season Bonus Point Wins

1 David Taylor 2011 34
2 Josh Moore 2004 32
2 David Taylor 2014 32
4 Jason Nolf 2016 31
5 David Taylor 2012 30
5 Ed Ruth 2014 30
5 Zain Retherford 2016 30
8 David Taylor 2013 29
9 Scott Moore 2003 28
10 Jim Martin 1989 27
10 Cary Kolat 1994 27
10 Kerry McCoy 1997 27
13 Jim Martin 1988 26
13 Bob Truby 1991 26
13 Ed Ruth 2012 26
13 Ed Ruth 2013 26
13 Zain Retherford 2018 26
18 Zain Retherford 2017 25
18 Jason Nolf 2017 25
18 Nick Lee 2018 25
 
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K. Single Season Bonus Point Wins (as % of matches wrestled):

1 David Taylor 2014 32 34 94.1%
2 David Taylor 2012 30 32 93.8%
3 Zain Retherford 2017 25 27 92.6%
3 Jason Nolf 2017 25 27 92.6%
5 Jeff Prescott 1991 21 23 91.3%
6 David Taylor 2013 29 32 90.6%
7 Jason Nolf 2016 31 35 88.6%
8 Zain Retherford 2016 30 34 88.2%
9 David Taylor 2011 34 39 87.2%
10 Ed Ruth 2012 26 30 86.7%
10 Zain Retherford 2018 26 30 86.7%
12 Ed Ruth 2014 30 35 85.7%
13 Ed Ruth 2013 26 32 81.3%
14 Jason Nolf 2018 21 26 80.8%
15 Bo Nickal 2017 21 27 77.8%
16 Garett Hammond 2016 13 17 76.5%
17 Matt Brown 2012 21 28 75.0%
17 Morgan McIntosh 2016 24 32 75.0%
19 Bo Nickal 2018 23 31 74.2%
20 Sanshiro Abe 1996 20 28 71.4%
21 Cary Kolat 1994 27 38 71.1%
22 Frank Molinaro 2012 23 33 69.7%
22 Mark Hall 2018 23 33 69.7%
24 Kerry McCoy 1997 27 39 69.2%
25 Shakur Rasheed 2018 20 29 69.0%

L. Fastest Falls

1 1/20/2013 Dylan Alton Dalton Ahern (Hofstra) 0:08
2 2/18/2018 Bo Nickal Brett Perry (Buffalo) 0:11
2 2/23/2014 David Taylor Michael Pavasko (Clarion) 0:11
4 1/10/2009 Brad Pataky Pokorny (Nebraska) 0:12
5 1/2/2016 Shakur Rasheed Kyle Pope (Wyoming) 0:14
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33 1/1/2018 Shakur Rasheed #15 Scottie Boykin (Chattanooga) 0:27

34 3/21/2013 Ed Ruth Fred Garcia (Lock Haven) 0:28
35 3/4/2017 Mark Hall #24 Jacob Morrissey (Purdue) 0:29
 
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And finally, home attendance (duals) - last year's #s highlighted:

1 2/10/2018 Iowa W 28-13 15998
2 12/8/2013 Pittsburgh W 28-9 15996
3 2/5/2016 Ohio State W 24-14 15983
4 2/8/2015 Iowa L 18-12 15967
5 12/4/2016 Lehigh W 30-10 15424
6 12/13/2015 Wisconsin W 36-7 12862
7 12/6/1996 Iowa L 22-15 11245
8 3/1/1967 Lehigh W 18-12 7900
9 2/20/1971 Lehigh W 26-9 7700
10 12/3/1986 Iowa W 27-15 7500
11 2/17/1968 Navy L 17-14 7400
12 1/9/1965 Lehigh L 17-11 7400
13 1/7/1961 Lehigh L 24-8 7400
14 12/2/1971 Michigan W 23-12 7200
15 1/23/1971 Temple W 25-9 7000
16 1/22/2012 Iowa W 22-12 6796
17 2/17/2012 Pittsburgh W 33-6 6755
18 1/29/2012 Ohio State W 34-9 6728
19 12/7/1984 Iowa L 31-9 6715
20 1/16/1971 Kent State W 30-11 6700
21 2/3/2018 Ohio State W 19-18 6699
22 1/30/2011 Iowa L 22-13 6686
23 2/5/2012 Michigan W 34-7 6671
24 2/12/2017 Maryland W 45-6 6661
25 2/10/2017 Illinois W 34-7 6645
26 1/29/2017 Northwestern W 45-3 6630
27 1/27/2013 Nebraska W 33-9 6618
28 1/13/2017 Rutgers W 37-6 6605
29 2/17/1973 Lehigh W 26-5 6600
30 1/26/2018 Minnesota W 35-8 6588
31 2/21/2016 Oklahoma State W 29-18 6575
32 2/16/2014 Oklahoma State W 23-12 6571
33 1/31/2016 Michigan W 35-7 6557
34 1/19/2018 Purdue W 43-6 6547
35 11/13/2016 Stanford W 36-6 6544
36 1/25/2015 Minnesota L 17-16 6540
37 1/15/2016 Nebraska W 24-10 6537
38 11/12/2017 Bucknell W 36-6 6535
39 2/17/2013 Rider W 48-0 6523
40 1/18/2013 Wisconsin W 36-6 6515
41 2/22/2015 Rider W 30-3 6509
42 11/24/2013 Lock Haven W 34-6 6498
43 11/26/1993 Oklahoma State L 23-15 6491
44 2/23/2014 Clarion W 43-3 6483
45 1/24/2014 Illinois W 31-3 6480
46 2/18/2018 Buffalo W 55-0 6431
47 12/17/2017 Indiana W 44-3 6425
48 11/16/2012 Lehigh W 29-6 6422
49 2/13/2016 Michigan State W 41-3 6419
50 3/3/1956 Pittsburgh L 18-12 6400
 
Total Pins will almost assuredly fall.....pun intended. Nolf has a chance at single season bonus point % ( unlikely ) The rest are impossible/near impossible.
 
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The only record I see falling for certain is:

C. Both Nolf and Nickal will pass the career falls record.

I see DT's record of 125 bonus point wins as being the most unreachable.

Another thing that these records show is the DT is one of the most underrated wrestlers at the NCAA level. His numbers are just ridiculous.
 
The only record I see falling for certain is:

C. Both Nolf and Nickal will pass the career falls record.

I see DT's record of 125 bonus point wins as being the most unreachable.

Another thing that these records show is the DT is one of the most underrated wrestlers at the NCAA level. His numbers are just ridiculous.

Yes, DT was super dominant. He is at the top or near the top of every major category and would also likely be there in NCAA categories, too.

Nolf might have come close to Taylor's bonus point victories if he hadn't been injured last year.
 
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Anyone know Cael’s career bonus point percentage? DT’s is just nutty.
Answering my own question--Cael had an 87.4% bonus average over his career, though his final year, it was an astonishing 97.5%. At least if you believe a random post on The Mat forums....
 
Anyone know Cael’s career bonus point percentage? DT’s is just nutty.

Not sure about career bonus points percentage, but here is some other information:

• Only four of Sanderson’s matches his senior year went the entire seven minutes — three of those were against Lehigh’s Jon Trenge, who Sanderson beat 12-4 in the NCAA finals. The fourth bout was an 18-7 major decision over Ohio State’s Nick Preston in the semis.
• Of the other 36 bouts his senior year, Sanderson pinned 23 opponents, the most falls had in his four years at Iowa State. Those 23 pins gave him a pinning percentage of over 60 percent on the year.
• Sanderson, who moved up to 197 pounds from 184 his final season, also had 11 tech falls and two forfeits.
• Sanderson’s pin totals his first three years were: 10-10-18.
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• First NCAA Division I wrestler to post a perfect (159-0) career record
• Four-time NCAA champion and a three-time winner of the Dan Hodge Trophy (given to the most outstanding college wrestler of the year
• Named Most Outstanding Wrestler at NCAA Championship four times (1999-2002)
• Selected as Big 12 Male Athlete of the Year (2002), received an ESPY as Best Male College Athlete (2002) and Sports Illustratedcalled his undefeated career the No. 2 Most Outstanding Achievement in Collegiate Sports History
  • Internationally, Sanderson was 2004 Athens Olympics gold medalist (84 kg), 2003 World Championship silver medalist, 2000 World University champion and a three-time U.S. National Freestyle champ
 
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Answering my own question--Cael had an 87.4% bonus average over his career, though his final year, it was an astonishing 97.5%. At least if you believe a random post on The Mat forums....
That number is correct. By year, Cael had 9, 6, 4, and 1 Decisions.
 
If Nolf runs the table or only allows one non-major decision (a very tall order given he likely has to wrestle Pantaleo, Hidlay, Deakin, Berger, Shields and Hayes), he could beat the Single Season Bonus Point Wins (as % of matches wrestled) record. There's a good challenge for "The Matrix".
 
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Answering my own question--Cael had an 87.4% bonus average over his career, though his final year, it was an astonishing 97.5%. At least if you believe a random post on The Mat forums....

Do you think people were questioning if he could move from 184 to 197 in 2001-2002? ;)
 
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As for record NCAA team titles, OK State has 34. Iowa is in second with 23, and Penn State and Iowa State are tied for third with 8 each. So, PSU could move into sole possession of third this year.

Oklahoma State 34 1928† • 1929† • 1930† • 1931† • 1933† • 1934† • 1935† • 1937† • 1938† • 1939† • 1940† • 1941† • 1942† • 1946† • 1948† • 1949† • 1954† • 1955† • 1956† • 195819591961196219641966196819711989199019942003200420052006
Iowa 23 19751976197819791980198119821983198419851986199119921993199519961997199819992000200820092010
Iowa State 8 1933‡ • 1965196919701972197319771987
Penn State 8 19532011201220132014201620172018
 
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Team Title Winning Streaks:

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owa 9 1978–1986
Oklahoma State 7 1937–1942, 1946#
Iowa 6 1995–2000
Penn State 4 2011–2014
Oklahoma State 4 1928–1931
Oklahoma State 4 2003–2006
Oklahoma State 3 1933–1935
Oklahoma State 3 1954–1956
Iowa 3 1991–1993
Iowa 3 2008–2010
Penn State 3 2016-2018
 
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Speaking of records, PSU is on a dual meet unbeaten streak of 45, going unbeaten the last three seasons. I believe the team has 13 duals this season.

Here are some of the other long unbeaten team streaks:

School / Streak/ Years/ Coach(es) / Streak Ended By

Oklahoma State 84 1959-1966 Roderick Oklahoma
Iowa 84 2008-2012 Brands Oklahoma State

Oklahoma State 76 1939-1951 Gallagher/Griffith Oklahoma
Oklahoma State 73 1996-2000 Smith Minnesota
Oklahoma State 69 1921-1932 Gallagher Oklahoma
Iowa 51 1989-1993 Gable Nebraska
Navy 50 1942-1949 Swartz Penn State
Penn State 45 current streak 2015-2018 Sanderson
Oklahoma State 44 1982-1984 Chesbro Arizona State
Iowa 42 1994-1997 Gable Oklahoma State
Penn State 38 1969-1972 Koll Michigan
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Penn State 34 1950-1954 Speidel Navy
 
The only record I see falling for certain is:

C. Both Nolf and Nickal will pass the career falls record.

I see DT's record of 125 bonus point wins as being the most unreachable.

Another thing that these records show is the DT is one of the most underrated wrestlers at the NCAA level. His numbers are just ridiculous.

Hehe. most unreachable? Unless Bo wrestles 47 matches without a loss....the career win % is safe. No one on our team is wrestling 47 matches. So I would say that one is most ludicrously unreachable.
 
Hehe. most unreachable? Unless Bo wrestles 47 matches without a loss....the career win % is safe. No one on our team is wrestling 47 matches. So I would say that one is most ludicrously unreachable.
Other than Jason and Bo, every returning wrestler has at least 4 career losses. (Excluding the freshmen who shirted last year -- Berge, Verk, Manville, etc.)

So that record is safe until at least 2022.
 
My hope, for all the wrestlers, is that they all remain healthy enough to chase their dreams.

Assuming they do, starters should get in the neighborhood of 31 matches this season. Entirely different world than 2002-03, when Scott Moore managed 63. With that in mind;

Career Wins - 0% chance of approaching
Career Tech Falls - 0% chance of approaching (DT's 42 is unlikely to be challenged in my lifetime)
Career Majors - 0% chance of approaching (guys no longer stop at Majors, going straight to TF's and Falls)
Career Bonus Point Wins - 0% chance, through Jason has a shot at 2nd (needs 27 to tie)
Career Falls - Nearly 100% chance that Jason, or Bo, or both pass 53
Season Bonus Point Wins - 0% chance, not enough bouts wrestled to get to DT's 34
Season Falls - 0% chance, not enough bouts wrestled
Season Wins - 0% chance, not enough bouts wrestled
Season TF's - 0% chance, not enough bouts wrestled
Season Majors - 0% chance, not enough bouts wrestled
Career % Wins - 0% chance, not enough bouts to pass Ed Ruth
Career Bonus Point Wins % - 0% chance, even a 100% Bonus Point Win rate doesn't get Jason to 91.2%
Career Falls % - 80% chance that Jason will set the modern day record for a career. Assuming he wrestles a full season, he needs 7 Falls at least, AND has to be within 5 Falls of Bo for the season (or Bo takes the title)
Team Championships - 83% chance the Nittany Lions break the tie with Iowa State
 
My hope, for all the wrestlers, is that they all remain healthy enough to chase their dreams.

Assuming they do, starters should get in the neighborhood of 31 matches this season. Entirely different world than 2002-03, when Scott Moore managed 63. With that in mind;

Career Wins - 0% chance of approaching
Career Tech Falls - 0% chance of approaching (DT's 42 is unlikely to be challenged in my lifetime)
Career Majors - 0% chance of approaching (guys no longer stop at Majors, going straight to TF's and Falls)
Career Bonus Point Wins - 0% chance, through Jason has a shot at 2nd (needs 27 to tie)
Career Falls - Nearly 100% chance that Jason, or Bo, or both pass 53
Season Bonus Point Wins - 0% chance, not enough bouts wrestled to get to DT's 34
Season Falls - 0% chance, not enough bouts wrestled
Season Wins - 0% chance, not enough bouts wrestled
Season TF's - 0% chance, not enough bouts wrestled
Season Majors - 0% chance, not enough bouts wrestled
Career % Wins - 0% chance, not enough bouts to pass Ed Ruth
Career Bonus Point Wins % - 0% chance, even a 100% Bonus Point Win rate doesn't get Jason to 91.2%
Career Falls % - 80% chance that Jason will set the modern day record for a career. Assuming he wrestles a full season, he needs 7 Falls at least, AND has to be within 5 Falls of Bo for the season (or Bo takes the title)
Team Championships - 83% chance the Nittany Lions break the tie with Iowa State
Roar, 0% chance of season falls? 24 when they will wrestle mid 30’s for matches. That is definitely not zero percent. No one has come closer than AA in recent years but it certainly is possible. Jason got to 16 in an injury shortened year. $$ says this record is on his mind.

And you mention season TF’s as 0%. Since DT set it at 15 in a year he also wrestled mid-30’s for matches...it’s very obviously possible.

As long as Nolf plays with his food....both of these are possible.
 
Roar, 0% chance of season falls? 24 when they will wrestle mid 30’s for matches. That is definitely not zero percent. No one has come closer than AA in recent years but it certainly is possible. Jason got to 16 in an injury shortened year. $$ says this record is on his mind.

And you mention season TF’s as 0%. Since DT set it at 15 in a year he also wrestled mid-30’s for matches...it’s very obviously possible.

As long as Nolf plays with his food....both of these are possible.
It's not mid-30's. Looking at the season's schedule, it's 32 absolute max (14 for duals, 5 at Keystone, 5 at Scuffle, 3 at B1G's, 5 at NCAA's), and more likely less. 24 falls in 30/31 bouts is a 77-80% Fall rate. I'll stand by the 0%, though I'll go 5% if it makes you happy :)...what's a couple percent among friends.

Similar for TF's. The season the TF king had 15, he wrestled 39 bouts. Jason had 11 in a year he wrestled 35 matches. No way he approaches a 50% TF rate. Plus, he's got Falls on his mind. Again, 0%.

Most important, forgetting the records for a second, is that each guy stay injury-free.
 
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It's not mid-30's. Looking at the season's schedule, it's 32 absolute max (14 for duals, 5 at Keystone, 5 at Scuffle, 3 at B1G's, 5 at NCAA's), and more likely less. 24 falls in 30/31 bouts is a 77-80% Fall rate. I'll stand by the 0%, though I'll go 5% if it makes you happy :)...what's a couple percent among friends.

Similar for TF's. The season the TF king had 15, he wrestled 39 bouts. Jason had 11 in a year he wrestled 35 matches. Plus, he's got Falls on his mind. Again, 0%.
Lol. There are records on the list that are actually 0%. They cannot be met. These two can. Just saying they aren’t zero however slim they might be. Jason could do one or the other of those two...obviously not both.

If Jason wrestles 31 like Zain did last year, he gets 19 pins at last years pin pace of 62%. Note, however that his last half dozen matches were on a bum knee and clearly not wrestling like....Jason. He would need 5 more pins and I would say those odds are better then 5%. Fully healthy, he will get damn close. And yes...far better to say he’s not getting TF’s cause he will be loading up for the Pins.
 
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Lol. There are records on the list that are actually 0%. They cannot be met. These two can. Just saying they aren’t zero however slim they might be. Jason could do one or the other of those two...obviously not both.

If Jason wrestles 31 like Zain did last year, he gets 19 pins at last years pin pace of 62%. Note, however that his last half dozen matches were on a bum knee and clearly not wrestling like....Jason. He would need 5 more pins and I would say those odds are better then 5%. Fully healthy, he will get damn close. And yes...far better to say he’s not getting TF’s cause he will be loading up for the Pins.
We'll have to agree to disagree.

For giggles, assuming 31 bouts, and known competition in duals of; Deakin, Pantaleo, Berger, Hayes, Pagdilia and Wolf; B1G Tournament of any of those guys as well, plus Bleise, and Van Brill possible; heaven only knows who he'll face at Keystone, the Scuffle, and NCAA's...what is the over/under for falls?
 
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Hehe. most unreachable? Unless Bo wrestles 47 matches without a loss....the career win % is safe. No one on our team is wrestling 47 matches. So I would say that one is most ludicrously unreachable.

I meant ever, not this season. I don't think we'll ever see someone get 126 career bonus wins unless more matches are allowed.
 
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It's not impossible that someone could break or tie Dylan Alton's 8 second pin but it is pretty implausible they will. It would even be a feat to surpass Taylor's 11 second pin (his last college dual match), which I recall watching. If I recollect accurately, his opponent from Clarion was clearly decked and counting the stars far prior to 11 seconds. If anyone can find this video, please post it. One of my favorite Taylor quick pins was against Kokesh (no slouch himself) in the quarterfinals of NCAAs. Something like 29 seconds. Here is the video:

 
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Many of those records are protected by the number of matches in a season now vs the past.

Some of the single season percentage based ones are possible. The single season bonus point win percentage could be beat but it wouldn't be easy.

Bo and Jason could have had a better shot at many of those records with more total matches. Likewise if Jason hadn't gotten injured last year it wouldn't have been unreasonable for him to have gotten the career win % either. But chance and circumstance happen to us all and we can only play the hand we are dealt.

Unless there is some rule about total matches in a season I suppose you could wrestle some extra tournaments to pad your stats but then you run the risk of injury from chasing somewhat meaningless records, and miss the bigger prize of team and individual championships.
 
We'll have to agree to disagree.

For giggles, assuming 31 bouts, and known competition in duals of; Deakin, Pantaleo, Berger, Hayes, Pagdilia and Wolf; B1G Tournament of any of those guys as well, plus Bleise, and Van Brill possible; heaven only knows who he'll face at Keystone, the Scuffle, and NCAA's...what is the over/under for falls?
Odds have to be small.

Then again, odds of Martinez giving up another inside trip to Cenzo in the national finals had to be pretty low too.
 
Answering my own question--Cael had an 87.4% bonus average over his career, though his final year, it was an astonishing 97.5%. At least if you believe a random post on The Mat forums....


Iirc, only 4 wrestlers finished their match to the end during Cael's senior season.
36 of 40 matches were ended by Fall, Tech Fall or perhaps Forfeit.
An incredible season.
 
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I am going out on a limb and predicting Jason will get the single season Bonus Point Percent record...
 
Doesn't matter much but just curious because I love these stats/lists:

Why are Nickal & Nolf career records based on 1 more match than their career pin percentages? Nickal 93 vs 92 & Nolf 89 vs 88.

Thought it might have to do w/2016 PSU Open [matches vs non-D1 opps], but according to the opponent lists on Wrestlestat that's not the case [Nickal-0, Nolf-2].
 
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Doesn't matter much but just curious because I love these stats/lists:

Why are Nickal & Nolf career records based on 1 more match than their career pin percentages? Nickal 93 vs 92 & Nolf 89 vs 88.

Thought it might have to do w/2016 PSU Open [matches vs non-D1 opps], but according to the opponent lists on Wrestlestat that's not the case [Nickal-0, Nolf-2].
Good catch. Will make an honest attempt to track it down.
 
Doesn't matter much but just curious because I love these stats/lists:

Why are Nickal & Nolf career records based on 1 more match than their career pin percentages? Nickal 93 vs 92 & Nolf 89 vs 88.

Thought it might have to do w/2016 PSU Open [matches vs non-D1 opps], but according to the opponent lists on Wrestlestat that's not the case [Nickal-0, Nolf-2].
Best I can tell...and will confirm later...

For Jason...
-- Career record is accurate, 86-3
-- Career pin% (showing 88 career matches) appears to have the Reddington bout (MFOR win for Jason in 2018) excluded, right or wrong, as it was a bout not wrestled
-- Then there's the WrestleStat (26 total 2017-18 bouts) vs Records History difference (27 total bouts wrestled). I suspect it's the Reddington bout again. WrestleStat doesn't use it to calculate their ELO points, yet it is an official win by rule.
 
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Best I can tell...and will confirm later...

For Jason...
-- Career record is accurate, 86-3
-- Career pin% (showing 88 career matches) appears to have the Reddington bout (MFOR win for Jason in 2018) excluded, right or wrong, as it was a bout not wrestled
-- Then there's the WrestleStat (26 total 2017-18 bouts) vs Records History difference (27 total bouts wrestled). I suspect it's the Reddington bout again. WrestleStat doesn't use it to calculate their ELO points, yet it is an official win by rule.
Hey Roar, which match are you referring to that isn't counted in the rankings/ELO that is an official win by rule [so I can get my rankings process updated]?

Thanks!!!
 
Hey Roar, which match are you referring to that isn't counted in the rankings/ELO that is an official win by rule [so I can get my rankings process updated]?

Thanks!!!
Best I can tell, it's the Reddington match from the Scuffle. Medical Forfeits are wins for the opposing wrestler, while it does not count for the medically forfeiting wrestler. That win makes Jason 26-1 (you have him at 25-1), matching his official record of 26-1.

Since it was an un-wrestled bout, wasn't sure how ELO would handle. I assumed including it would bias the algorithm.
 
Doesn't matter much but just curious because I love these stats/lists:

Why are Nickal & Nolf career records based on 1 more match than their career pin percentages? Nickal 93 vs 92 & Nolf 89 vs 88.

Thought it might have to do w/2016 PSU Open [matches vs non-D1 opps], but according to the opponent lists on Wrestlestat that's not the case [Nickal-0, Nolf-2].

In the PSWC data, we made the determination to exclude forfeit wins and medical default wins from the calculations for the % records. As Roar said, "right or wrong" - that's how we decided to do it.

So, the differences are:
1/31/16 - Nickal vs. Mahomes (Def)
1/1/18 - Nolf vs. Reddington (Fft)
 
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Best I can tell, it's the Reddington match from the Scuffle. Medical Forfeits are wins for the opposing wrestler, while it does not count for the medically forfeiting wrestler. That win makes Jason 26-1 (you have him at 25-1), matching his official record of 26-1.

Since it was an un-wrestled bout, wasn't sure how ELO would handle. I assumed including it would bias the algorithm.
Wow! Had no idea on that! Currently, I am completely ignoring MFOR results (and maybe FOR, haven't looked in awhile). That seems weird that it would count for one [the winner], and not for the other.
 
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