Violence in US cities....

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  1. m.knox

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    Wow......... Dems are really outdoing themselves.

    • Chicago: 139% increase in murders in July. 75% increase in shootings
    • Denver: murder rate up 40%
    • New York: Passed 2019 annual shooting number already
    • Portland: most killings in 30 years
    • St. Louis: 154 killed so far
    Congratulations Democrats!!! You have sowed the seed of hate, and this is the result.
     
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    They cannot govern .
     
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    Peaceful protests.... defund the cops. Social workers can handle this.
     
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    5.5 hours, and it's crickets from the board lefties. They have no answers.
     
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    @MikeJones2353 thinks democratic policy is the bomb.....
     
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    He's another moron.
     
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    When will we see the knees for all of the Black lives lost here.
     
    7 dailybuck777, Aug 2, 2020 at 11:20 PM
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    The murder rate will most likely be up everywhere in big cities with all the rioting and violence going on.

    In the same big cities if a republican mayor was in office in 2019 and 2020 the murder rate would be up just the same.
     
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    No. Republicans would increase (or, at the very least not decrease) police presence. Also, Republicans would not give license to Marxists to riot based on the false premise that Black men are killed by police at a higher rate than white men.
     
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    I do not doubt republicans would increase the police rate. But that does not mean murders would go down. Maybe it would maybe it wouldn't. Not long after Floyds murder I was in Philly on South Street which surprisingly was untouched. There was a police presence that I saw walking up and down the street. Maybe not a large presence, but nothing bad was going on.

    The point I am making if groups of hundreds or thousands are all going to go out and riot at the same time, I think the police would be outnumbered and only able to control so much.
     
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    Roland Fryer's work substantially disagrees with your point. "

    "Our estimates suggest that investigating police departments after viral incidents of police violence is responsible for approximately 450 excess homicides per year. This is 2x the loss of life in the line of duty for the US Military in a year, 12.6x the annual loss of life due to school shootings, and 3x the loss of life due to lynchings between 1882 and 1901 – the most gruesome years.

    The new study also looked at 22 cities where investigations into police did not pertain to viral incidents, “mostly conducted after complaints from civilians or lawsuits from organizations like the American Civil Liberties Union.” With crime rates that were already trending downward, the cities experienced “benign” or “marginally” reduced crime rates following these investigations....

    Thus, the combination of virality and a pattern-or-practice investigation caused significant jumps in homicides and crime rates, though the underlying reason requires further research, according to the study."

    Later edit. I would be very surprised if any violent demonstrations had hundreds of thousands of people.

    https://www.thecollegefix.com/harva...e-police-could-cost-thousands-of-black-lives/
     
    11 dailybuck777, Aug 3, 2020 at 12:04 AM
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    You don't think in cities like Philly and NYC where they riotted and looted there were not people in the hundreds?

    I'm lumping all the rioting, looting, and violence in all together.
     
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    I think there may have been crowds of 3,000 to 10,000 in the various cities on particular days. The police could handle these. If there was a real problem that couldn't have been handled by the police, the National Guard could have been called to help.

    Also, talking about defunding simply enables and emboldens the Marxist/Communist rioters.
     
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    Where do you come up with crap like that?
     
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    No idea.
     
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    Exactly .
     
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    What is hard or crazy to understand what I posted. What I am saying is in a normal year where there is NO riotting or violence triggered by Floyds murder from this year, the murder rate would most likely be down as oppose to another year when the country didn't have rioting and violence, regardless of who the politician.

    Year 1 no riotting and violence murder rate lower

    Year 2 rioting and violence happening regularly murder rate goes up from year 1.

    That is common sense. Nothing crazy about it.
     
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    The vast majority of these murders have nothing to do with the protests/rioting.
     
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    What we are seeing are the results of years of Democrats in charge. If we magically put a Republican mayor in office, they wouldn't be able to instantly undo decades of damage.
     
    19 pandaczar12, Aug 3, 2020 at 7:34 AM
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    Oh, no. Not FBG!
     
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    The Republican solution is not likely to involve defunding the police and supporting violent protestors.
     
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