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  • Dr. Maria Gonzales, ER Doctor, U.S. Department of Health and Human Services: “All this is bullshit. Now, [a patient] probably [has] myocarditis due to the [COVID] vaccine. But now, they [government] are not going to blame the vaccine.”
  • Dr. Gonzales: “They [government] are not reporting [adverse COVID vaccine side effects]…They want to shove it under the mat.”
  • Deanna Paris, Registered Nurse, U.S. Department of Health and Human Services: “It’s a shame they [government] are not treating people [with COVID] like they're supposed to, like they should. I think they want people to die.”
  • Jodi O’Malley, Insider and Registered Nurse, U.S. Department of Health and Human Services: The COVID vaccine is “not doing what it’s purpose was.”
  • O’Malley: “I’ve seen dozens of people come in with adverse reactions.”
  • O’Malley: “If we [government] are not gathering [COVID vaccine] data and reporting it, then how are we going to say that this is safe and approved for use?”
  • O’Malley: I’m not afraid of blowing the whistle “because my faith lies in God and not man…You know, like what kind of person would I be if I knew all of this -- this is evil at the highest level. You have the FDA, you have the CDC, that are both supposed to be protecting us, but they are under the government, and everything that we’ve done so far is unscientific.”
  • O’Malley: “At the end of the day, it’s about your health, and you can never get that back -- and about your freedom, and about living in a peaceful society, and I’m like, ‘no.’ No. This is the hill that I will die on.”
 
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  • Dr. Maria Gonzales, ER Doctor, U.S. Department of Health and Human Services: “All this is bullshit. Now, [a patient] probably [has] myocarditis due to the [COVID] vaccine. But now, they [government] are not going to blame the vaccine.”
  • Dr. Gonzales: “They [government] are not reporting [adverse COVID vaccine side effects]…They want to shove it under the mat.”
  • Deanna Paris, Registered Nurse, U.S. Department of Health and Human Services: “It’s a shame they [government] are not treating people [with COVID] like they're supposed to, like they should. I think they want people to die.”
  • Jodi O’Malley, Insider and Registered Nurse, U.S. Department of Health and Human Services: The COVID vaccine is “not doing what it’s purpose was.”
  • O’Malley: “I’ve seen dozens of people come in with adverse reactions.”
  • O’Malley: “If we [government] are not gathering [COVID vaccine] data and reporting it, then how are we going to say that this is safe and approved for use?”
  • O’Malley: I’m not afraid of blowing the whistle “because my faith lies in God and not man…You know, like what kind of person would I be if I knew all of this -- this is evil at the highest level. You have the FDA, you have the CDC, that are both supposed to be protecting us, but they are under the government, and everything that we’ve done so far is unscientific.”
  • O’Malley: “At the end of the day, it’s about your health, and you can never get that back -- and about your freedom, and about living in a peaceful society, and I’m like, ‘no.’ No. This is the hill that I will die on.”
I am genuinely curious. I know dozens and dozens of folks that have been vaccinated, no adverse side effects. None.

I know several that have had breakthrough infections including in my family. Nobody laid up longer than the recommended 5 day quarantine period.

I know several folks who are unvaxxed and had a pretty solid bout, a few requiring hospitalization. One 55 YO now on Alzheimer’s medication among other lasting effects for some of them ( oxygen for a couple as well ) I know a few who didn’t make it. I also know at least one 75 YO who survived being out on a vent and he was vaxxed But in terrible shape, a half dozen co morbidities at least. I also know three or four unvaxxed folks who had less severe symptoms and required no hospitalization.

I have yet to meet someone who has had an adverse reaction to the jabs including booster jabs. I am sure they must exist but are such a minority in all of this as to be relatively insignificant.

How many folks do you know who have been vaccinated have had serious health complications tied to the jab?
 
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I am genuinely curious. I know dozens and dozens of folks that have been vaccinated, no adverse side effects. None.

I know several that have had breakthrough infections including in my family. Nobody laid up longer than the recommended 5 day quarantine period.

I know several folks who are unvaxxed and had a pretty solid bout, a few requiring hospitalization. One 55 YO now on Alzheimer’s medication among other lasting effects for some of them ( oxygen for a couple as well ) I know a few who didn’t make it. I also know at least one 75 YO who survived being out on a vent and he was vaxxed But in terrible shape, a half dozen co morbidities at least. I also know three or four unvaxxed folks who had less severe symptoms and required no hospitalization.

I have yet to meet someone who has had an adverse reaction to the jabs including booster jabs. I am sure they must exist but are such a minority in all of this as to be relatively insignificant.

How many folks do you know who have been vaccinated have had serious health complications tied to the jab?
MOST PEOPLE DO NOT GET SERIOUSLY SICK JABBED OR UNJABBED!
 
I am genuinely curious. I know dozens and dozens of folks that have been vaccinated, no adverse side effects. None.

I know several that have had breakthrough infections including in my family. Nobody laid up longer than the recommended 5 day quarantine period.

I know several folks who are unvaxxed and had a pretty solid bout, a few requiring hospitalization. One 55 YO now on Alzheimer’s medication among other lasting effects for some of them ( oxygen for a couple as well ) I know a few who didn’t make it. I also know at least one 75 YO who survived being out on a vent and he was vaxxed But in terrible shape, a half dozen co morbidities at least. I also know three or four unvaxxed folks who had less severe symptoms and required no hospitalization.

I have yet to meet someone who has had an adverse reaction to the jabs including booster jabs. I am sure they must exist but are such a minority in all of this as to be relatively insignificant.

How many folks do you know who have been vaccinated have had serious health complications tied to the jab?
I’ve personally known 4 people who have died within a few weeks after receiving their 2nd vaccine shot. All were under the age of 60. Two were in their 30’s, one a mother of 3 kids. All essentially developed blood clots and died with cardio/heart attack/issues. And I know many others who have experienced the same. I also know many who are sick often and diagnosed with COVID when they go to the doctor, or test, despite being fully vaccinated. Wake up.
 
I’ve personally known 4 people who have died within a few weeks after receiving their 2nd vaccine shot. All were under the age of 60. Two were in their 30’s, one a mother of 3 kids. All essentially developed blood clots and died with cardio/heart attack/issues. And I know many others who have experienced the same. I also know many who are sick often and diagnosed with COVID when they go to the doctor, or test, despite being fully vaccinated. Wake up.
Yeah, I find this to be the wildest claim yet you have made.
 
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I am genuinely curious. I know dozens and dozens of folks that have been vaccinated, no adverse side effects. None.

I know several that have had breakthrough infections including in my family. Nobody laid up longer than the recommended 5 day quarantine period.

I know several folks who are unvaxxed and had a pretty solid bout, a few requiring hospitalization. One 55 YO now on Alzheimer’s medication among other lasting effects for some of them ( oxygen for a couple as well ) I know a few who didn’t make it. I also know at least one 75 YO who survived being out on a vent and he was vaxxed But in terrible shape, a half dozen co morbidities at least. I also know three or four unvaxxed folks who had less severe symptoms and required no hospitalization.

I have yet to meet someone who has had an adverse reaction to the jabs including booster jabs. I am sure they must exist but are such a minority in all of this as to be relatively insignificant.

How many folks do you know who have been vaccinated have had serious health complications tied to the jab?

People have adverse reactions to various types of medications.....doesn't mean you stop it for all. People want a cause to believe in....even if it is pretty GD stupid at this point. At this point you really cannot convince the Q nuts of anything. You can see them pretty clearly for what they are. The only people that would be upset by that comment are the Q nuts. Not all anti vaxxers are Q nuts, but the ones that post bad information that is debunked over and over again.....well they are.
 
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People have adverse reactions to various types of medications.....doesn't mean you stop it for all. People want a cause to believe in....even if it is pretty GD stupid at this point. At this point you really cannot convince the Q nuts of anything. You can see them pretty clearly.
I know you know a lot of folks. Do you know anyone who was adversely affected by the jab or died from it?
 
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I’m done here. Anyone who would take the three amigos seriously deserves stating on this thread and debating them. Just need to put tgar on ignore, as I did with LaJolla long ago. It’s not worth debating childish fools.
LOL. OK clown guy. You sure were convincing.
 
I know you know a lot of folks. Do you know anyone who was adversely affected by the jab or died from it?
From the vaccine, not one person that I know. My mother who tends to struggle with shots due to other allergies had no issues. 9 billion doses administered so you would think the overwhelming evidence is there for the Q nuts, but apparently it's a global conspiracy to hide it.....or they are just f--king idiots who need some dumb cause to believe in? I have no doubt that some people had bad reactions, but not enough to stop the train.
 
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As mentioned, Canada has their own frontline doctors association, unafraid to speak out about the dangers of the mRNA jabs and the many other safe, effective, affordable therapeutic treatment options available for those that need it
You mean this group?

https://www.snopes.com/news/2020/07/30/americas-frontline-doctors/

https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/c...oscience/back-away-americas-frontline-doctors

https://www.medpagetoday.com/special-reports/exclusives/96408

https://time.com/6092368/americas-frontline-doctors-covid-19-misinformation/

Not that it matters. You are so far down the rabbit hole, there is no getting out. Just because you have the credentials, doesn't mean you are still not a quack. What's the latest from Q? Has JFK reappeared yet?
 
We ? You are as big a fool as tgar, who refers to himself in the 3rd person. You two, along with LaJolla should call yourselves the three amigos. That’s all you’ve got
We means more than one person. More than one person is looking at these data, right? Therefore, "we"(you, me, everyone here) need more information.

Might be helpful if in addition to more science classes you also sat in on some English classes.
 
I'm pretty confident I would not be the one getting my ass kicked, but HEY MODS HOW ABOUT BANNING THIS GUY WHO JUST THREATENED PHYSICAL VIOLENCE AGAINST SOMEONE.

They are safe, as the science has shown.

I've heard him speak. He was underwhelming. Please send me a link to his peer reviewed papers that show the vaccines are unsafe. If they exist, I cannot find them.

LOLOLOLOLOL. Two things, one practical and one semantics.

Practical: Physicians get their information from research scientists. Unless a physician is also an MD/PhD (or in rare cases an MD researcher), they aren't on the front line of anything. They are the car repair technician who is following the manual that was written by the automotive engineers (scientists).

Semantics: The scientists who are doing this research are doctors (PhD). The guy who write you your prescription for Viagra is also a doctor (MD). It is best to call the latter a physician (or surgeon if applicable) because saying "doctor" is not specific to the medical field.

Scientists are paid (just like any job) but not paid for. There is no evidence to the contrary.

See above.

Please provide a list of these "thousands of physicians". You realize there are hundreds of thousand of medical doctors who recommend the vaccine, right?

There is no evidence from controlled experiments to suggest that this is a serious risk.

Ah, now we've reached the part of our story where you've run out of conspiracy theories to sling at me, so you start with the personal insults. First, threatening me, now calling me a piece of shit. There is no clearer sign that you have no leg to stand on. You are wrong. Full stop.

Not sure why we are bringing politics into this. I am not a politician. I am here to talk science.

But this does bring up a bigger point: how in the world did a vaccine get politicized? The science is very clear on this: get the vaccine as it helps to lessen the impacts of covid. That seems like a very apolitical issue to me.
Here to talk science my ass. You wouldn’t know valid data if it bitch slapped you in the face. You’re intent on posting here is to provoke others by making insulting comments. So don’t whine like a baby when you got the reaction you were looking for…
 
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Here to to talk science my ass. You wouldn’t know valid data if it bitch slapped you in the face. You’re intent on posting here is to provoke others by making insulting comments. So don’t whine like a baby when you got the reaction you were looking for…
I'd be happy to take a poll of working scientists currently participating in this thread to see who does and does not "know valid data if it bitch slapped you in the face".

I've been a research scientist for 20+ years. I have over 75 peer review publications in the literature. I definitely know how to evaluate, QA/QC and analyze data. I also know how to critique experimental design and statistical rigor. I am not a covid researcher and will gladly show deference to any poster who is doing research in that field. But I absolutely know more about scientific data than most people on this thread, especially those who watched a wacky youtube video and now think they have a PhD in virology. SMFH.
 
Well, I'm almost certainly bigger than you and I almost certainly have quicker hands. Plus, I'm obviously smarter than you, which helps as well.

The fact that you want to resort to violence just really just shows how small your brain is.

I'm protected (via my vaccination and booster) now and have no fear of being around unmasked people.

This suggests to me that in addition to being bad at science, you are also bad at history in that you clearly don't know what the Nuremberg Code says.
I know exactly what it is you little dweeb. not a chance you are bigger, stronger, or quicker than me. Not a chance.
 
So I am in Vegas at a conference this week. about 70% are using masks in the casinos despite signs everywhere saying they are required. About 70% of those wearing are wearing cloth masks that the CDC said are next to worthless. Then, with Omicron, even the cloth masks are of questionable use.

Bottom line is that the participation is rapidly declining≥
 
Dr. Robert Malone, internationally recognized scientist/physician and inventor/key contributor of mRNA and DNA vaccine technology. AND ~ Dr. Michael Yeadon, chief scientist, scientific researcher & former Vice President at Pfizer - say hello by the way

Now you will use snoops/ wiki/ tgar fact- checking services, whatever you feel like, to discredit these two hero’s and distinguished giants in scientific virology, no doubt 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤣🤣

You are an embarrassment to the field of science you claim to represent in every conceivable way.
Show me the peer reviewed papers that Drs Malone and Yeadon have published saying not to get vaccinated. I'd love to read them!

I don't know what a "snoops" is (Snopes is a thing, but I certainly haven't referred to it).

You clearly don't know enough about science to judge who is and who isn't an embarrassment.
 
See table 14 on page 38. More people are dying with being vaccinated than without. Further backs the UK study showing the same data.

https://publichealthscotland.scot/media/11223/22-01-19-covid19-winter_publication_report.pdf
Reading comprehension problems:
"The rates in Table 14 should not be used as a measure of vaccine effectiveness due to unaccounted for biases and risk factors."

"Interpretation of data There is a large risk of misinterpretation of the data presented in this section due to the complexities of vaccination data. A blog post by the UK Health Security Agency (UKHSA), formerly Public Health England (PHE), provides a comprehensive explanation of the biases and potential areas for misinterpretation of such data. They state that a simple comparison of COVID-19 case rates in those who are vaccinated and unvaccinated should not be used to assess how effective a vaccine is in preventing serious health outcomes, because there are a number of differences between the groups, other than the vaccine itself, and these biases mean that you cannot use the rates to determine how well the vaccines work."
See page 34
 
Now it’s time for me to put PSU2UNC on ignore, with his amigos tgar/LaJollaLion, permanently. It’s been a rush, but I’ve got many better things to do with my time than debate these wing nuts.
Tail between your legs Q boy. Doc Malone……😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
 
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So I am in Vegas at a conference this week. about 70% are using masks in the casinos despite signs everywhere saying they are required. About 70% of those wearing are wearing cloth masks that the CDC said are next to worthless. Then, with Omicron, even the cloth masks are of questionable use.

Bottom line is that the participation is rapidly declining≥

I went today to one of the local police departments here in the People's Republic of Illinois to get some fingerprints taken for another CCL permit. Once I got into the building I looked around and I was the only one wearing a mask, so I took it off. I only wear it as a courtesy to others and take my lead from them as to whether to continue wearing it or not. More and more the answer is not, and that is a good thing.
 
This is pure gold.....science nerds talking about how big they are and fist fighting at the blue white game. OMG, please video it if it ever happens. I picture two people just flailing open hands at each other and screaming when they get hit.

"I know more science"

"No, I know more science"

I have forgot more science than you have ever learned"

Please keep this going so I have some entertainment.
 
This is pure gold.....science nerds talking about how big they are and fist fighting at the blue white game. OMG, please video it if it ever happens. I picture two people just flailing open hands at each other and screaming when they get hit.

"I know more science"

"No, I know more science"

I have forgot more science than you have ever learned"

Please keep this going so I have some entertainment.
Sheldon Cooper vs Leonard Hofstadter!
 
This is pure gold.....science nerds talking about how big they are and fist fighting at the blue white game. OMG, please video it if it ever happens. I picture two people just flailing open hands at each other and screaming when they get hit.

"I know more science"

"No, I know more science"

I have forgot more science than you have ever learned"

Please keep this going so I have some entertainment.
Believe or not a situation like this did occur. 2 guys got into it on the board and fought at a game. The one poster was a real jerk and always bragging about how good of a wrestler he was. Can anyone provide details on that incident? I’ve only heard the short version.
 
Sure is nice to see how Biden the Unifier has brought the country together. You big bad guys need to cut back on the roid rage.
Agreed. This thread has gone off the rails. If we can't discuss a topic with civility then we should all hang our heads. Stop the name calling and grow up. If you have been vaccinated good for you and God bless. If you choose not to get vaccinated God bless.
 
so yes this thread has just gotten out of control, but i will still post some stuff to try and keep some sanity.

The omicron spike I think we can hopefully say is on the downward. daily positives spiked at 806,000 on January 13 and are now on a hard curve down with now at 613,000 two weeks later, so 100k down per week the last two weeks. Hospitalizations are also now on the downward trend with hospital admissions on an even higher percentage downward trend. the fatality curve is still on it's upward trend at 2300 per day and based on history probably will spike next week. interesting to note that even though positives were 800k (and most likely well over a million due to at home testing) that I doubt we will come even close to the 3500 per day fatality numbers at this time last year when the daily positives were only 250k or 25% (in reality probably 15-20%) of this peak. So in summary, 4 to 6 times the positives and only 75% of the fatalies. So basically about 7 to 8 times less deadly then previous variants.

I am thinking that by end of February we are back to some pretty low numbers going into March when the weather starts to break and historically the numbers are low for a few months. Based on what I am seeing out there even now with more and more people just done with Covid, I think that this spring there will be a large push to return to normalcy as the numbers really start to dip. we also see that politically covid fear porn is no longer a winning issue such that politicians are not going to continue to push in most occasions for continued lockdowns and mandates as most people are not in favor of it. so fingers crossed that by April/May timeframe we really start to see this thing truly in the rearview mirror.
 
so yes this thread has just gotten out of control, but i will still post some stuff to try and keep some sanity.

The omicron spike I think we can hopefully say is on the downward. daily positives spiked at 806,000 on January 13 and are now on a hard curve down with now at 613,000 two weeks later, so 100k down per week the last two weeks. Hospitalizations are also now on the downward trend with hospital admissions on an even higher percentage downward trend. the fatality curve is still on it's upward trend at 2300 per day and based on history probably will spike next week. interesting to note that even though positives were 800k (and most likely well over a million due to at home testing) that I doubt we will come even close to the 3500 per day fatality numbers at this time last year when the daily positives were only 250k or 25% (in reality probably 15-20%) of this peak. So in summary, 4 to 6 times the positives and only 75% of the fatalies. So basically about 7 to 8 times less deadly then previous variants.

I am thinking that by end of February we are back to some pretty low numbers going into March when the weather starts to break and historically the numbers are low for a few months. Based on what I am seeing out there even now with more and more people just done with Covid, I think that this spring there will be a large push to return to normalcy as the numbers really start to dip. we also see that politically covid fear porn is no longer a winning issue such that politicians are not going to continue to push in most occasions for continued lockdowns and mandates as most people are not in favor of it. so fingers crossed that by April/May timeframe we really start to see this thing truly in the rearview mirror.
It is what democrats will try to run on in the fall.
 
so yes this thread has just gotten out of control, but i will still post some stuff to try and keep some sanity.

The omicron spike I think we can hopefully say is on the downward. daily positives spiked at 806,000 on January 13 and are now on a hard curve down with now at 613,000 two weeks later, so 100k down per week the last two weeks. Hospitalizations are also now on the downward trend with hospital admissions on an even higher percentage downward trend. the fatality curve is still on it's upward trend at 2300 per day and based on history probably will spike next week. interesting to note that even though positives were 800k (and most likely well over a million due to at home testing) that I doubt we will come even close to the 3500 per day fatality numbers at this time last year when the daily positives were only 250k or 25% (in reality probably 15-20%) of this peak. So in summary, 4 to 6 times the positives and only 75% of the fatalies. So basically about 7 to 8 times less deadly then previous variants.

I am thinking that by end of February we are back to some pretty low numbers going into March when the weather starts to break and historically the numbers are low for a few months. Based on what I am seeing out there even now with more and more people just done with Covid, I think that this spring there will be a large push to return to normalcy as the numbers really start to dip. we also see that politically covid fear porn is no longer a winning issue such that politicians are not going to continue to push in most occasions for continued lockdowns and mandates as most people are not in favor of it. so fingers crossed that by April/May timeframe we really start to see this thing truly in the rearview mirror.
I was in Vegas this week. Despite signs to wear masks, some intended to shame others to threaten, about 30% went not using masks indoors. I was in Vegas in November and it was 100% compliance.

i had a short conversation with an employee that was asking people to mask and I asked her if she was enforcing the use of better materials than cloth and she had no idea what I was talking about
 
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