USA COVID-19 Vaccination Updates

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My best guesses. It has to do with the long incubation period. You can be infected and pass a test early on before you ever know you actually have the virus. This would allow you to travel and be social AKA spread the virus before you even know.

As for the atmosphere idea, I don't think so because my understanding is UV light kills the virus so I'm not entirely sure how it could survive in the atmosphere.

maybe this is a crazy theory but we know some people have shown cross immunity with antibodies due to exposure to some type of similar virus in the past. There are some valid empirical evidence this could be as high as 20-25% of the population. We also know the virus will flare up in a location extremely quick for 4-8 weeks and then go right back down just as fast. Wonder if the variants basically are just enough different that essentially those people that have cross immunity due one strain do not have that same cross immunity to a different variant. So essentially the strains/variants go through the population infecting those that have no cross immunity and then the next strain comes along and just is different enough that some portion of of that 20-25% no longer has that cross immunity and gets infected.
 

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Looks like the CDC isn't going to pause child vaccinations. In a hypocritical 180 from how quickly they shut down J&J for 6 adverse events, they're completely downplaying heart issues in kids and basically saying it's no big deal, despite a much higher rate of issues.
 

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Looks like the CDC isn't going to pause child vaccinations. In a hypocritical 180 from how quickly they shut down J&J for 6 adverse events, they're completely downplaying heart issues in kids and basically saying it's no big deal, despite a much higher rate of issues.

Somebody's getting a pay off. That's what I would say if I were a conspiracy theorist.
 

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front page of Drudge Report

CDC safety group says there’s a likely link between rare heart inflammation in young people after Covid shot


  • There have been more than 1,200 cases of a myocarditis or pericarditis mostly in people 30 and under who received Pfizer’s or Moderna’s Covid-19 vaccine, according to CDC data.
  • Roughly 300 million of the shots had been administered as of June 11, the agency said.
  • For both vaccines combined, there were 12.6 heart inflammation cases per million doses.
 

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front page of Drudge Report

CDC safety group says there’s a likely link between rare heart inflammation in young people after Covid shot


  • There have been more than 1,200 cases of a myocarditis or pericarditis mostly in people 30 and under who received Pfizer’s or Moderna’s Covid-19 vaccine, according to CDC data.
  • Roughly 300 million of the shots had been administered as of June 11, the agency said.
  • For both vaccines combined, there were 12.6 heart inflammation cases per million doses.

And the only 2 doctors so far who have raised a concern on this ACIP call both had their opinions dismissed as being no big deal
 

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front page of Drudge Report

CDC safety group says there’s a likely link between rare heart inflammation in young people after Covid shot


  • There have been more than 1,200 cases of a myocarditis or pericarditis mostly in people 30 and under who received Pfizer’s or Moderna’s Covid-19 vaccine, according to CDC data.
  • Roughly 300 million of the shots had been administered as of June 11, the agency said.
  • For both vaccines combined, there were 12.6 heart inflammation cases per million doses.

And now you know why the propagandists running Facebook were suddenly censoring the WHO. I don't think people fully appreciate the groups forcing the current administration's stances.
 
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And the only 2 doctors so far who have raised a concern on this ACIP call both had their opinions dismissed as being no big deal
remains to be seen what is more dangerous for a teenager or less; covid or the Vax.

In the USA, about 400 total COVID deaths age 17 and less according to the CDC's stats. this does not account for comorbidities. I am willing to bet that a substantial number of these deaths occurred because they were compromised in some fashion (sickle cell, downs, cancer...etc.).
 

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I due think that Mark Zuckerberg is the devil. He is a very evil person.
I think he has power and influence and massive ego. what he lacks is experience and insight. This is a very dangerous combination. These people that censored accredited people who voiced a different opinion have blood on their hands. Is it criminal negligence? IDK but I can certainly understand someone who might make that claim.
 

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remains to be seen what is more dangerous for a teenager or less; covid or the Vax.

In the USA, about 400 total COVID deaths age 17 and less according to the CDC's stats. this does not account for comorbidities. I am willing to bet that a substantial number of these deaths occurred because they were compromised in some fashion (sickle cell, downs, cancer...etc.).

And the CDC has already said pediatric covid deaths are overcounted by upwards of 40%
 

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Well that didn't take long. Cases plummeting in India, so they had to come up with more fear porn there.

 

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I think he has power and influence and massive ego. what he lacks is experience and insight. This is a very dangerous combination. These people that censored accredited people who voiced a different opinion have blood on their hands. Is it criminal negligence? IDK but I can certainly understand someone who might make that claim.

What's more important, kids health, or pretending to placate teachers unions? There's only a couple of months to placate them, and I think it's pretty obvious which is the priority. Children have become little more than fodder to some people.
 
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Looks like the CDC isn't going to pause child vaccinations. In a hypocritical 180 from how quickly they shut down J&J for 6 adverse events, they're completely downplaying heart issues in kids and basically saying it's no big deal, despite a much higher rate of issues.

Done with a dearth of caution.
 

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remains to be seen what is more dangerous for a teenager or less; covid or the Vax.

In the USA, about 400 total COVID deaths age 17 and less according to the CDC's stats. this does not account for comorbidities. I am willing to bet that a substantial number of these deaths occurred because they were compromised in some fashion (sickle cell, downs, cancer...etc.).

Or it could be further evidence that COVID. o_O is a global killer. o_O
 

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Public comment period of the ACIP meeting.

Not only do we have anti-vaxxers and conspiracy theorists giving comment but we have anti-anti-vaxxers which are just is bad.

Now we have an acupunturist who apparently can cure covid with acupuncture
 

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maybe this is a crazy theory but we know some people have shown cross immunity with antibodies due to exposure to some type of similar virus in the past. There are some valid empirical evidence this could be as high as 20-25% of the population. We also know the virus will flare up in a location extremely quick for 4-8 weeks and then go right back down just as fast. Wonder if the variants basically are just enough different that essentially those people that have cross immunity due one strain do not have that same cross immunity to a different variant. So essentially the strains/variants go through the population infecting those that have no cross immunity and then the next strain comes along and just is different enough that some portion of of that 20-25% no longer has that cross immunity and gets infected.
I'd say it's as good of a theory as anything else. I've kind of figured if the variants change enough, that this is how you can get covid twice. It's been pretty rare from my understanding, but this is likely how it happens.

Looks like the CDC isn't going to pause child vaccinations. In a hypocritical 180 from how quickly they shut down J&J for 6 adverse events, they're completely downplaying heart issues in kids and basically saying it's no big deal, despite a much higher rate of issues.

I'm not a doctor, but I read that myocarditis most of the time gets better on its own over time. If that's the case, then I'm not sure what the huge concern is. I'd love to see the data on long term issues from the vaccines such as myocarditis or blood clots, but I'm guessing the reality is there is going to be a very very tiny sliver of % who suffer from such long term issues (or death) which would make it safer than a natural infection which also can bring on long term issues (or death).
 

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I'm not a doctor, but I read that myocarditis most of the time gets better on its own over time. If that's the case, then I'm not sure what the huge concern is. I'd love to see the data on long term issues from the vaccines such as myocarditis or blood clots, but I'm guessing the reality is there is going to be a very very tiny sliver of % who suffer from such long term issues (or death) which would make it safer than a natural infection which also can bring on long term issues (or death).

The concern is the hypocritical approach they're taking to this issue as compared to the J&J clotting issue (which was easy to treat as long as it was diagnosed properly).
 
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I'd say it's as good of a theory as anything else. I've kind of figured if the variants change enough, that this is how you can get covid twice. It's been pretty rare from my understanding, but this is likely how it happens.



I'm not a doctor, but I read that myocarditis most of the time gets better on its own over time. If that's the case, then I'm not sure what the huge concern is. I'd love to see the data on long term issues from the vaccines such as myocarditis or blood clots, but I'm guessing the reality is there is going to be a very very tiny sliver of % who suffer from such long term issues (or death) which would make it safer than a natural infection which also can bring on long term issues (or death).

Isn't myocarditis potentially dangerous under extreme exertion, like say playing sports?
 

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Can you summarize your conclusions?
the posts are basically saying that the most vulnerable have already suffered maximum damage. Like dry tinder wood, once the easy to burn stuff is gone, the wets woods kill the fire. I don't really agree...i think the Vax has had its affect on the at risk population.
 
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front page of Drudge Report

CDC safety group says there’s a likely link between rare heart inflammation in young people after Covid shot


  • There have been more than 1,200 cases of a myocarditis or pericarditis mostly in people 30 and under who received Pfizer’s or Moderna’s Covid-19 vaccine, according to CDC data.
  • Roughly 300 million of the shots had been administered as of June 11, the agency said.
  • For both vaccines combined, there were 12.6 heart inflammation cases per million doses.
those numbers do not add up....would be 1,000 million doses
 

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There have been 1200 cases total, not 30 and under. For <30 it's 484

The 12.6 rate is those under 40 and after their 2nd dose of vaccine.
 

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0.610M shots yesterday so total up to 318.5M with the 7 day rolling average at 1.04M. 84% of shots administered is the national average, 53.4% of population with 1+ dose (68.8% of the adult population), 45.2% of population fully vaccinated.

So far, 177 million Americans have received at least one dose of a vaccine. At least 150 million people have completed a vaccination regimen.

11,005 positives reported yesterday compared to 12,961 week over week. 7-day rolling average is at 11,775.

Fatality was 352 compared to 237 yesterday and 342 week over week, 7-day rolling fatality at 306.

Hospitalizations reported 7 day rolling average is 12,663 compared to one week ago 14,411 down 12.3%.

Hospital admissions reported 7 day rolling average is 1,846 compared to one week ago 2063 down 10.5%.

0.647M shots yesterday so total up to 319.2M with the 7 day rolling average at 1.05M. 84% of shots administered is the national average, 53.5% of population with 1+ dose (68.9% of the adult population), 45.3% of population fully vaccinated.

So far, 178 million Americans have received at least one dose of a vaccine. At least 150 million people have completed a vaccination regimen.

12,942 positives reported yesterday compared to 14,258 week over week. 7-day rolling average is at 11,886.

Fatality was 326 compared to 352 yesterday and 433 week over week, 7-day rolling fatality at 301.

Hospitalizations reported 7 day rolling average is 12,402 compared to one week ago 14,148 down 12.3%.

Hospital admissions reported 7 day rolling average is 1,823 compared to one week ago 2,047 down 10.9%.
 

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0.647M shots yesterday so total up to 319.2M with the 7 day rolling average at 1.05M. 84% of shots administered is the national average, 53.5% of population with 1+ dose (68.9% of the adult population), 45.3% of population fully vaccinated.

So far, 178 million Americans have received at least one dose of a vaccine. At least 150 million people have completed a vaccination regimen.

12,942 positives reported yesterday compared to 14,258 week over week. 7-day rolling average is at 11,886.

Fatality was 326 compared to 352 yesterday and 433 week over week, 7-day rolling fatality at 301.

Hospitalizations reported 7 day rolling average is 12,402 compared to one week ago 14,148 down 12.3%.

Hospital admissions reported 7 day rolling average is 1,823 compared to one week ago 2,047 down 10.9%.
1823 per day average still. LMFAO. Jesus this country is full of stupid people. ( yes, I am sure a few can’t receive a vaccine program but most probably could have been vaccinated )
 

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1823 per day average still. LMFAO. Jesus this country is full of stupid people. ( yes, I am sure a few can’t receive a vaccine program but most probably could have been vaccinated )

There's no way that many people are so sick from covid that they have to go to the hospital on a given day.

Hospital data reporting requirements are terrible. They don't differentiate from people who are there due to covid, are there for something else and test positive asymptomatically while there, or those who don't even have covid that are required to be counted as a covid hospitalization.
 

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1823 per day average still. LMFAO. Jesus this country is full of stupid people. ( yes, I am sure a few can’t receive a vaccine program but most probably could have been vaccinated )
The vaccines are 95% effective after both shots. So if 150 million are fully vaccinated then that means that 7.5 million could still get it should they be exposed. Cut that in half for people that already had it and have natural antibodies. That’s still a lot of cases possible.
 
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There's no way that many people are so sick from covid that they have to go to the hospital on a given day.

Hospital data reporting requirements are terrible. They don't differentiate from people who are there due to covid, are there for something else and test positive asymptomatically while there, or those who don't even have covid that are required to be counted as a covid hospitalization.

Apparently you haven’t seen the swarms of people crawling into ERs across the nation gasping for air due to the (double-secret mutant)^2 variant epsilon.
 

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There's no way that many people are so sick from covid that they have to go to the hospital on a given day.

Hospital data reporting requirements are terrible. They don't differentiate from people who are there due to covid, are there for something else and test positive asymptomatically while there, or those who don't even have covid that are required to be counted as a covid hospitalization.
LOL. Stick to your hoax talking points.

here is an anecdotal example. My local hospital, Mt Nittany, is currently treating 10 Covid patients in the Covid ward. Age range is 33 to 81. Average number of patients per day this month is 16 so falling which one would expect.

It’s not hard to imagine given those numbers from a small local hospital that 1800 or more are still being admitted daily across the nation.

Stick to your narrative though. LOL.