USA COVID-19 Vaccination Updates

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yeah, i don't think it was genetically engineered from scratch, i think it was just a coronavirus that they isolated from a bat (or wherever) and then gain of function on that. and then it leaked from the lab due to a mistake via poor procedures.

Lancet...i said at the time of the whole HycroC article that there was way more behind that hit job then just an editor not doing their job and getting duped. there was someone behind that article with a lot of power that pulled that string. big money and big power.

the whole lab leak being a conspiracy never made sense to me. it was pure anti-Trump by the democrats as a way to discredit him as they needed something or else they were on a pathway to lose the 2020 election. So I think a lot of how the covid-19 reaction occured was due to politics and not medical science. Now throw in the Fauci emails and some uncovering of things there. And I think you had a Penn State BOT type of situation where you had multiple powerful people and entities that had the same goal for different reasons. You had Dems wanting Trump out, you had Fauci covering up some issues with funding and NIH connection to Wuhan lab, and you had big Pharma with BILLIONS of dollars to make, and you had general politicians getting emergency powers unlike anything since WWII.
Excellent take. One more really important point for future discussions is you had tremendous censorship by social media preventing any debate. Of all the things Redfield said was IF it was a lab leak of a juiced virus we would have reacted differently and likely saved lives. If true that moves tis discussion from the obvious anti Trump/ Big Pharma money grab to something approaching criminal.
 

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we do know that one dose basically is enough for most people, so fully vaccinated number is manipulation of data. It says 16% have had one dose. Now 16% does not explain an 81% drop, but we also know this virus goes in spikes where it hits an area, huge increase until immunity is built through infection and natural antibodies and then goes right back down. Saw same thing in Michigan.
 
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An altered state
What does that mean? It came from a bat but was isolated manipulated and escaped the lab. that by definition is the lab leak theory not natural isn't it. Without the lab involvement this may never have jumped from bat too human.
Here’s two articles showing what most likely happened. In the second link from Newsweek there are links to articles including one that shows the exact lab report on how they mixed two viruses at ceramics temps for various times to get cross ‘pollination’ of their RNA possibly resulting in the Wuhan virus. Pretty amazing work done by average citizens and not journalists, investigators, researchers, or governments.


 
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Researchers said the scientific evidence remained relatively unchanged but noted that “the context and circumstances of the origin debate have changed,” NBC reported. One of the most notable changes in the “context” of the debate, according to Chan, was Trump’s departure from the White House.

 
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Researchers said the scientific evidence remained relatively unchanged but noted that “the context and circumstances of the origin debate have changed,” NBC reported. One of the most notable changes in the “context” of the debate, according to Chan, was Trump’s departure from the White House.

She ( and numerous other scientists) should hang their collective heads in shame. Where in her training …did it say to…not be truthful and forthcoming with her findings or suspicions ? Where did it say in her training that letting her political leanings or concerns affect her findings? IMO….she violated the sacred basis for critical research . Like the virus invaded millions of humans….so did she allow politics to invade her science. Valuable time was lost as she and her cohorts waited for the election to go …..their way.
 

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She ( and numerous other scientists) should hang their collective heads in shame. Where in her training …did it say to…not be truthful and forthcoming with her findings or suspicions ? Where did it say in her training that letting her political leanings or concerns affect her findings? IMO….she violated the sacred basis for critical research . Like the virus invaded millions of humans….so did she allow politics to invade her science. Valuable time was lost as she and her cohorts waited for the election to go …..their way.
These people should lose their accreditation and be exposed to civil lawsuits.
 

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I can sleep well at night knowing that my cotton bandana I was forced to wear if I wanted any goods or services has saved literally millions of lives.

I am science.

In fact, the day before I was allowed to take off my cotton bandana...? That very day I probably saved 300,000 lives. The next day I was good to go sneeze on anybody I wanted and the cases tumbled.

So the science worked. Keep up the good work folks. Keep wearing those masks. We're all in this together. Immortality is right around the corner.
 
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My poisonous, toxic deadly breath expired June 17th, apparently. These people know what the hell they're doing, man. Props.

Personally, I would still double-mask but it's up to you. I'd keep wearing the rubber gloves. Abundance of caution. If you don't have to go out in this 72 degree sunny weather, there's really no reason to, you're risking the very lives of your fellow Americans. Variants. Always keep that in mind. You lived this week, no guarantee you're going to get to next payday.

Just keep it on the down low for the next fifteen or twenty five years. Eventually we'll all get back to normal if we just trust the science. And above all, people have to take this seriously and mask up.

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My poisonous, toxic deadly breath expired June 17th, apparently. These people know what the hell they're doing, man. Props.

Personally, I would still double-mask but it's up to you. I'd keep wearing the rubber gloves. Abundance of caution. If you don't have to go out in this 72 degree sunny weather, there's really no reason to, you're risking the very lives of your fellow Americans. Variants. Always keep that in mind. You lived this week, no guarantee you're going to get to next payday.

Just keep it on the down low for the next fifteen or twenty five years. Eventually we'll all get back to normal if we just trust the science. And above all, people have to take this seriously and mask up.

Mask Up, State College.
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Thank you for adding. Yall having fun in this thread?

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1.03M shots yesterday so total up to 312.9 with the 7 day rolling average at 1.1M. 83% of shots administered is the national average, 52.7% of population with 1+ dose (67.9% of the adult population), 44.1% of population fully vaccinated.

So far, 175 million Americans have received at least one dose of a vaccine. At least 146 million people have completed a vaccination regimen.

14,063 positives reported yesterday compared to 15,758 week over week. 7-day rolling average is at 13,360.

Fatality was 434 compared to 353 yesterday and 503 week over week, 7-day rolling fatality at 344.

Hospitalizations reported 7 day rolling average is 14,015 compared to one week ago 16,635 down 15.7%.

Hospital admissions reported 7 day rolling average is 2,027 compared to one week ago 2,248 down 9.8%.

2.05M shots yesterday so total up to 314.9 with the 7 day rolling average at 1.3M. 83% of shots administered is the national average, 53.0% of population with 1+ dose (68.2% of the adult population), 44.5% of population fully vaccinated.

So far, 176 million Americans have received at least one dose of a vaccine. At least 148 million people have completed a vaccination regimen.

11,230 positives reported yesterday compared to 16,619 week over week. 7-day rolling average is at 12,697.

Fatality was 291 compared to 434 yesterday and 482 week over week, 7-day rolling fatality at 316.

Hospitalizations reported 7 day rolling average is 13,826 compared to one week ago 16,207 down 14.7%.

Hospital admissions reported 7 day rolling average is 2,007 compared to one week ago 2,259 down 11.1%.

Something crazy with vaccinations going on, 2.05M reported yesterday. Last day over 2M vaccinations in one day was a month ago. Be interesting to see once Florida reports this week where the numbers go as saw some nice declines this week that hopefully hold.

On the masking front, went to a local farmers market that a nearby small town holds Thursday evenings in the town park. Just some food trucks and local people setting up some booths in the park selling things. Probably a couple hundred of people total, zero masks seen.
 

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just a dumb program by the UK, highly impractical based on real life situation and ability for people to do it themselves and then accuracy of test depending on the virus. somebody in the govt. over there is now retired living on their own island with the swiss bank account filled with Innova money to have inked that contract.
 

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Went the Padres game last night. First one since the CA reopening and end of mask requirements. On the positive side - I’d say 90% of people were massless. I did see some massless adults with masked children and that drives me nuts. Interestingly, concessions were a nightmare. It was a sellout - approx 44k. Every single concession had a line of about 100 plus people from the second to the 9th inning. Virtually impossible to get a hot dog or beer. No roaming concessions at all. Not a single person walking around selling soda, popcorn etc. many of the concessions ran out of food. The local burger joint Hodads ran out of fries and buns in about the 6th inning. Other places ran out of hot dogs.

seems like we will struggle on the service side until something happens to make people to go back to work. But even with that issue, I’m not sure how the vendors ran out of food. They know how much food they sell during a sold out baseball game. Doesnt make much sense.
 

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She ( and numerous other scientists) should hang their collective heads in shame. Where in her training …did it say to…not be truthful and forthcoming with her findings or suspicions ? Where did it say in her training that letting her political leanings or concerns affect her findings? IMO….she violated the sacred basis for critical research . Like the virus invaded millions of humans….so did she allow politics to invade her science. Valuable time was lost as she and her cohorts waited for the election to go …..their way.

These people should lose their accreditation and be exposed to civil lawsuits.

Oh, come on now. These people let people die and helped destroy lives for political purposes. There is no more noble of a cause. These kinds of actions merit promotions.
 
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2.05M shots yesterday so total up to 314.9 with the 7 day rolling average at 1.3M. 83% of shots administered is the national average, 53.0% of population with 1+ dose (68.2% of the adult population), 44.5% of population fully vaccinated.

So far, 176 million Americans have received at least one dose of a vaccine. At least 148 million people have completed a vaccination regimen.

11,230 positives reported yesterday compared to 16,619 week over week. 7-day rolling average is at 12,697.

Fatality was 291 compared to 434 yesterday and 482 week over week, 7-day rolling fatality at 316.

Hospitalizations reported 7 day rolling average is 13,826 compared to one week ago 16,207 down 14.7%.

Hospital admissions reported 7 day rolling average is 2,007 compared to one week ago 2,259 down 11.1%.

Something crazy with vaccinations going on, 2.05M reported yesterday. Last day over 2M vaccinations in one day was a month ago. Be interesting to see once Florida reports this week where the numbers go as saw some nice declines this week that hopefully hold.

On the masking front, went to a local farmers market that a nearby small town holds Thursday evenings in the town park. Just some food trucks and local people setting up some booths in the park selling things. Probably a couple hundred of people total, zero masks seen.

1.08M shots yesterday so total up to 316.0 with the 7 day rolling average at 1.3M. 83% of shots administered is the national average, 53.1% of population with 1+ dose (68.4% of the adult population), 44.7% of population fully vaccinated.

So far, 176 million Americans have received at least one dose of a vaccine. At least 148 million people have completed a vaccination regimen.

13,389 positives reported yesterday compared to 16,362 week over week. 7-day rolling average is at 12,639.

Fatality was 393 compared to 291 yesterday and 393 week over week, 7-day rolling fatality at 329.

Hospitalizations reported 7 day rolling average is 13,538 compared to one week ago 15,805 down 10.2%.

Hospital admissions reported 7 day rolling average is 1,971 compared to one week ago 2,197 down 11.1%.
 

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1.08M shots yesterday so total up to 316.0 with the 7 day rolling average at 1.3M. 83% of shots administered is the national average, 53.1% of population with 1+ dose (68.4% of the adult population), 44.7% of population fully vaccinated.

So far, 176 million Americans have received at least one dose of a vaccine. At least 148 million people have completed a vaccination regimen.

13,389 positives reported yesterday compared to 16,362 week over week. 7-day rolling average is at 12,639.

Fatality was 393 compared to 291 yesterday and 393 week over week, 7-day rolling fatality at 329.

Hospitalizations reported 7 day rolling average is 13,538 compared to one week ago 15,805 down 10.2%.

Hospital admissions reported 7 day rolling average is 1,971 compared to one week ago 2,197 down 11.1%.

Fatalities up sharply overnight!

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1.08M shots yesterday so total up to 316.0 with the 7 day rolling average at 1.3M. 83% of shots administered is the national average, 53.1% of population with 1+ dose (68.4% of the adult population), 44.7% of population fully vaccinated.

So far, 176 million Americans have received at least one dose of a vaccine. At least 148 million people have completed a vaccination regimen.

13,389 positives reported yesterday compared to 16,362 week over week. 7-day rolling average is at 12,639.

Fatality was 393 compared to 291 yesterday and 393 week over week, 7-day rolling fatality at 329.

Hospitalizations reported 7 day rolling average is 13,538 compared to one week ago 15,805 down 10.2%.

Hospital admissions reported 7 day rolling average is 1,971 compared to one week ago 2,197 down 11.1%.

1.07M shots yesterday so total up to 317.1 with the 7 day rolling average at 1.3M. 84% of shots administered is the national average, 53.2% of population with 1+ dose (68.6% of the adult population), 44.9% of population fully vaccinated.

So far, 177 million Americans have received at least one dose of a vaccine. At least 149 million people have completed a vaccination regimen.

7,782 positives reported yesterday compared to 13,437 week over week. 7-day rolling average is at 11,832.

Fatality was 170 compared to 393 yesterday and 355 week over week, 7-day rolling fatality at 301.

Hospitalizations reported 7 day rolling average is 13,344 compared to one week ago 15,412 down 13.4%.

Hospital admissions reported 7 day rolling average is 1,931 compared to one week ago 2,155 down 10.4%.
 

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Time to find a new variant to keep the fear train rolling in the news.
They already have one. The Gamma variant has a good amount of breakthrough cases in Washington state. They started posting about it about 3 days ago.
 

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CDC Caught Cooking the Books on COVID Vaccines​

Analysis by Dr. Joseph Mercola

STORY AT-A-GLANCE​

  • COVID-19 has been a pandemic of false positive tests; the thing that kept the fraud going was the fact that laboratories were using excessively high cycle thresholds (CTs) when processing the PCR tests, resulting in false positives
  • Now, as over 100 million Americans have been “vaccinated” against COVID-19, the CDC is lowering the CT from 40 to 28, but only when diagnosing vaccine breakthrough cases — cases where fully vaccinated individuals are diagnosed with COVID-19
  • To make matters worse, the CDC also will no longer record mild or asymptomatic infections of those who were immunized as “COVID cases.” The only cases that now count as COVID cases for someone immunized with the COVID-19 vaccine are those that result in hospitalization or death
  • While healthy people continue to be misdiagnosed as having COVID-19 when they really don’t, thanks to an excessively high CT, the CDC is simultaneously minimizing the number of breakthrough cases by using a CT that will minimize the number of false positives
  • Other countries are also manipulating data to boost COVID-19 vaccine efficacy and hide breakthrough cases. In the U.K., COVID-19 will only be listed as the cause of death if the patient actually died from an active case of COVID-19 and nothing else
For many months now, we’ve known the COVID-19 pandemic was the result of statistical manipulation and a fraudulent testing strategy. I detailed this scheme in “COVID-19 Testing Scandal Deepens” and “Astonishing COVID-19 Testing Fraud Revealed.”
Now, as the infection has become endemic in most parts of the world and the mass vaccination drive is in full swing, U.S. health authorities are massaging data and revising testing recommendations yet again — this time to hide the ineffectiveness of the vaccines. As reported by Off-Guardian, May 18, 2021:1
“The US Center for Disease Control (CDC) is altering its practices of data logging and testing for ‘Covid19’ in order to make it seem the experimental gene-therapy ‘vaccines’ are effective at preventing the alleged disease …
The trick is in their reporting of what they call ‘breakthrough infections’ — that is people who are fully ‘vaccinated’ against SARS-Cov-2 infection, but get infected anyway. Essentially, COVID-19 has long been shown — to those willing to pay attention — to be an entirely created pandemic narrative built on two key factors:
1.False-postive tests. The unreliable PCR test can be manipulated into reporting a high number of false-positives by altering the cycle threshold (CT value).2
2.Inflated Case-count. The incredibly broad definition of ‘Covid case,’ used all over the world, lists anyone who receives a positive test as a ‘Covid19 case,’ even if they never experienced any symptoms.
Without these two policies, there would never have been an appreciable pandemic at all, and now the CDC has enacted two policy changes which means they no longer apply to vaccinated people.”

CDC Is Cooking the Books on COVID Breakthrough Cases​

Originally, the CDC recommended labs use a CT of 403 when testing for SARS-CoV-2 infection. This despite using a CT above 35 was known to create a false positive rate of 97%.4 In short, by using an exaggerated CT, healthy people were deemed stricken with COVID-19, and the fraud was further propped up by introducing the fallacy that asymptomatic carriers were responsible for a large portion of the spread.
Now, the CDC has suddenly lowered the CT considerably — from 40 to 28 or lower5 — in what appears to be a clear effort to hide COVID-19 breakthrough cases in those injected with the COVID-19 vaccine.
The CDC has put new policies in place which effectively created a tiered system of diagnosis. Meaning, from now on, unvaccinated people will find it much easier to be diagnosed with Covid19 than vaccinated people. ~ Off-Guardian May 18, 2021
To understand just how significant of a change this is, consider that the CT refers to the number of cycles the PCR test is run at, and each cycle doubles the magnification of the viral RNA fragment that the test supposedly looks for.
That means a switch from 40 to 28 reduces the magnification, i.e., the sensitivity of the test, by more than 4,000 times. The end result is far fewer positive test results. However, this only applies to people who are being tested for breakthrough infection.
So, as vaccinated individuals are contracting the illness, they’re now less likely to register as positive cases, which makes the “vaccine” appear more protective than it might be in actuality.
Had a CT of 28 been used all along, we would have had nowhere near the number of “cases” currently touted and the pandemic would have been declared over sometime in 2020. Conversely, were a CT of 40 or higher used to diagnose breakthrough cases, you can be sure the numbers would be far higher than currently reported.

Mild Infections No Longer Count​

To boost the appearance of vaccine efficacy even further, the CDC also will no longer record mild or asymptomatic infections in vaccinated individuals as “COVID cases.” The only cases that now count as COVID cases — if the patient has been vaccinated against COVID-19, that is — are those that result in hospitalization or death.6
Meanwhile, if you’re unvaccinated and come down with a mild case, or if you test positive at a higher CT and have no symptoms, you still count as a COVID case. As explained by Off-Guardian:7
“The CDC has put new policies in place which effectively created a tiered system of diagnosis. Meaning, from now on, unvaccinated people will find it much easier to be diagnosed with Covid19 than vaccinated people. Consider…
Person A has not been vaccinated. They test positive for Covid using a PCR test at 40 cycles and, despite having no symptoms, they are officially a ‘covid case.’
Person B has been vaccinated. They test positive at 28 cycles, and spend six weeks bedridden with a high fever. Because they never went into a hospital and didn’t die they are NOT a Covid case.
Person C, who was also vaccinated, did die. After weeks in hospital with a high fever and respiratory problems. Only their positive PCR test was 29 cycles, so they’re not officially a Covid case either.”
As of April 30, 2021, the CDC had received a total of 10,262 reports of vaccine breakthrough infections,8 which it admitted was a “substantial undercount,” as they’re using a passive surveillance system that relies on voluntary reporting from state health departments.9 May 17, 2021, the number of breakthrough cases was slashed to 1,949, as the new guidance that only takes hospitalizations and deaths into account took effect.10

Double Standards Drive Public Abuse​

By keeping the old rules for unvaccinated people — which results in a large amount of false positives and an overcount of “cases” — and applying new rules for vaccinated individuals that result in a significant number of false negatives and an undercount of cases, you end up with statistics that conform to the propaganda of the mainstream media, which falsely suggests COVID-19 is far more prevalent among unvaccinated people and that the vaccine works far better than it actually does.
All of this is to support getting as many people vaccinated with this worse than worthless, dangerous “vaccine.” As noted by Off-Guardian:11
“This is a policy designed to continuously inflate one number, and systematically minimize the other. What is that if not an obvious and deliberate act of deception?”
When asked why the CDC would not include asymptomatic or mildly symptomatic cases if they’ve been vaccinated, CDC director Dr. Rochelle Walensky said that it’s because vaccinated asymptomatic and mildly symptomatic people carry very little virus.12
Convenient isn’t it? This reply was never given when they were counting asymptomatic, falsely positive COVID tests as “cases,” equating them instead to deaths to increase fear in order to drive people to get vaccinated.
As I’ve explained on many previous occasions, in order to be infectious, you need a sufficiently high viral load, and the viruses must be live in order to replicate. A significant problem with the PCR test is it cannot differentiate between dead or inactive viral debris and live virus.
The reason a healthy person can test positive for COVID-19 is because the test, when used at a high CT, will magnify noninfectious or harmless segments of DNA that are not related to infectious viral particles. So, again, the CDC is now admitting asymptomatic people pose no real infection risk, but they only apply this logic to those who have been vaccinated while continuing the lying charade for the unvaccinated.

Lockdowns Should Not be Based on Mass PCR Testing​

More and more information is coming out showing how PCR testing has been misused. As noted in one German study, posted on the preprint server medRxiv, May 19, 2021:13
“RT-PCR testing as a tool for mass screening should not be used alone as a base for pandemic decision making including measures such as quarantine, isolation, and lockdown.”
They based this conclusion on the fact that only 40.6% of positive test results had used a CT of 25 or lower. At this low CT, a positive test result has a decent chance of being accurate, which means even if symptoms are mild, the patient is likely to be infectious.
The remainder of positive tests, 59.4%, were using a CT above 25, which means they were more likely to be false positives. As detailed in “The Insanity of the PCR Testing Saga,” to obtain 100% confirmed real positives, you have to use a CT of 17.
Clearly, self-quarantining and lockdowns are irrational if nearly 60% of so-called COVID cases are noninfectious. The PCR test can also detect dead viral RNA for months after an active infection, making the test even more unreliable.
One country that has acknowledged the madness of mass PCR testing is Sweden which, at the end of November 2020, stopped relying on this test to determine cases. As noted on the Swedish Public Health Agency’s website (translated from Swedish):14,15
“The PCR technology used in tests to detect viruses cannot distinguish between viruses capable of infecting cells and viruses that have been neutralized by the immune system and therefore these tests cannot be used to determine whether someone is contagious or not.
RNA from viruses can often be detected for weeks (sometimes months) after the illness but does not mean that you are still contagious. There are also several scientific studies that suggest that the infectivity of COVID-19 is greatest at the beginning of the disease period.
The recommended criteria for assessing freedom from infection are therefore based on stable clinical improvement with freedom from fever for at least two days and that at least seven days have passed since the onset of symptoms. For those who have had more pronounced symptoms, at least 14 days after the illness and for the very sickest, individual assessment by the treating doctor.”
A COVID-19 working group met April 19, 2021, to discuss whether these rules needed to be updated in light of new variants. It was decided that no change in rules was needed.16,17

UK Is Also Manipulating Data to Hide Vaccine Failure​

Signs that other countries are starting to manipulate data to hide vaccine failure are also evident. For example, in the U.K., they’ve now dropped the rule that anyone having tested positive for SARS-CoV-2 within 28 days of dying is to be counted as a COVID-19 death.
Now that vaccines are out, COVID-19 will only be listed as the cause of death if the patient actually died from an active case of COVID-19 and nothing else. As reported by iNews:18
“The modelling sub-group of the Government’s scientific advisory committee Sage says that the 28-day definition was useful before widespread vaccination, because deaths in hospital within a month of a positive test were most likely due to COVID-19.
However now that tens of millions of the UK population have received their jabs, deaths from other causes could still show up in the daily data if they have previously tested positive for coronavirus.
A senior Sage source said: ‘If the definition remains the same, these people would be counted as ‘vaccine failures’, whereas the vaccine prevented death from COVID, but they really died from something else.'”

An Undeclared War Against the Public​

While many people around the world still believe COVID-19 has been one of the deadliest pandemics in modern history and those of us who have survived are the lucky ones, the facts indeed tell a very different story.
When you look at how case rates and death statistics have been collected and reported, and how those parameters have changed along the way, you realize that the pandemic was a mirage, created through the manipulation of data and nothing else.
More than a year and a half has been stolen from us in an undeclared war against the public. Even with mounting awareness of the facts, the deep state players responsible for this cruel hoax are not likely to call it quits. They have a long-term goal, and that is the complete takeover and control of the global wealth and population.
So, as we move forward, we can expect more cover-ups, more obfuscation, more attempts to whitewash the truth and protect the guilty parties. Case in point: The COVID Commission Planning Group, tasked with planning the creation of an “independent” investigative commission like that for 9/11,19 is filled with people who have serious conflicts of interest.
As reported by the Miller Center,20 the COVID Commission Planning Group is backed by charitable foundations that have been part of a technocratic alliance that for years, in some cases decades, have been plotting and planning for the wealth redistribution and global power grab we’re now experiencing.
The chosen leader of this new planning group is Philip Zelikow, former executive director of the 9/11 Commission21 and a member of the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation’s Global Development Program Advisory Panel.22,23
Zelikow, a former director of the Miller Center of Public Affairs at the University of Virginia, is also a current strategy group member of the Aspen Institute,24 a technocratic hub that has groomed and mentored executives from around the world about the subtleties of globalization.
He also directed the Markle Foundation’s Task Force on National Security in the Information Age,25 the focus of which has been to make information relating to potential security threats discoverable and accessible to officials.26

Bioterror Is the New Never-Ending War​

In a May 16, 2021, article, Off-Guardian details Zelikow’s conflicts of interest, and why the COVID-19 pandemic is unlikely to be resolved anytime soon, at least if the technocratic deep state looking for a Great Reset can prevent it:27
“Zelikow’s involvement, among other things, suggests we are in the second phase of a long war of terror waged with two weapons – military and medical – whose propaganda messaging is carried out by the corporate mainstream media in the pursuit of the World Economic Forum’s Great Reset …
You can be certain it won’t end soon and that the new terrorists are domestic dissidents … the commission justifying the government’s claims about COVID-19 and injections (aka ‘vaccines’) will be hard at work writing their fictive report that will justify ex post facto the terrible damage that has occurred and that will continue to occur for many years …
‘Now is the time to just do what you are told,’ as Anthony Fauci so benevolently declared … The authorities have told us what’s coming. Pay attention. Don’t be fooled. It’s a game they have devised. Keep people guessing. On edge. Relieved. Tense. Relaxed. Shocked. Confused.
That’s the game. One day this, the next that. You’re on, you’re off. You’re in, you’re out. We are allowing you this freedom, but be good children or we will have to retract it. If you misbehave, you will get a time out.”
Indeed, fear has been weaponized with devastating effect over the past year, and it is what allows the destruction of our freedoms.

The Time to Stand for Freedom Is NOW​

In 2007, Naomi Wolf published “The End of America: Letter of Warning to a Young Patriot,” in which she lays out the 10 steps to tyranny. She’s now warning everyone, everywhere, that we are at Step 10. Once Step 10 locks into place, there’s no going back. It’ll be too dangerous to fight back.
The good news is the would-be tyrants have not won yet. That said, we have no time to spare. We have no time to remain idle, hoping it will all just go back to normal on its own. The answer is peaceful mass civil disobedience. It’s time to say NO to any and all pandemic measures.
We must also rally behind legislation that prevents the alteration of laws that safeguard our freedoms. To that end, Wolf has started the Five Freedoms Campaign, which you can find on her Daily Clout website.
The campaign focuses on creating legislation to preserve key freedoms and prevent emergency laws from infringing on our freedom to assemble, worship, protest and engage in business. Legislation is also being crafted to open schools, remove mask mandates and eliminate requirements for vaccine passports.
I have no doubt that we will ultimately stop the globalists’ drive toward loss of personal freedoms and global tyranny. It’s not going to be easy. It may take years, and it may get far worse before it gets better, but if we unite, there’s no doubt we will win.
 
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CDC Caught Cooking the Books on COVID Vaccines​

Analysis by Dr. Joseph Mercola

STORY AT-A-GLANCE​

  • COVID-19 has been a pandemic of false positive tests; the thing that kept the fraud going was the fact that laboratories were using excessively high cycle thresholds (CTs) when processing the PCR tests, resulting in false positives
  • Now, as over 100 million Americans have been “vaccinated” against COVID-19, the CDC is lowering the CT from 40 to 28, but only when diagnosing vaccine breakthrough cases — cases where fully vaccinated individuals are diagnosed with COVID-19
  • To make matters worse, the CDC also will no longer record mild or asymptomatic infections of those who were immunized as “COVID cases.” The only cases that now count as COVID cases for someone immunized with the COVID-19 vaccine are those that result in hospitalization or death
  • While healthy people continue to be misdiagnosed as having COVID-19 when they really don’t, thanks to an excessively high CT, the CDC is simultaneously minimizing the number of breakthrough cases by using a CT that will minimize the number of false positives
  • Other countries are also manipulating data to boost COVID-19 vaccine efficacy and hide breakthrough cases. In the U.K., COVID-19 will only be listed as the cause of death if the patient actually died from an active case of COVID-19 and nothing else
For many months now, we’ve known the COVID-19 pandemic was the result of statistical manipulation and a fraudulent testing strategy. I detailed this scheme in “COVID-19 Testing Scandal Deepens” and “Astonishing COVID-19 Testing Fraud Revealed.”
Now, as the infection has become endemic in most parts of the world and the mass vaccination drive is in full swing, U.S. health authorities are massaging data and revising testing recommendations yet again — this time to hide the ineffectiveness of the vaccines. As reported by Off-Guardian, May 18, 2021:1


1.False-postive tests. The unreliable PCR test can be manipulated into reporting a high number of false-positives by altering the cycle threshold (CT value).2
2.Inflated Case-count. The incredibly broad definition of ‘Covid case,’ used all over the world, lists anyone who receives a positive test as a ‘Covid19 case,’ even if they never experienced any symptoms.

CDC Is Cooking the Books on COVID Breakthrough Cases​

Originally, the CDC recommended labs use a CT of 403 when testing for SARS-CoV-2 infection. This despite using a CT above 35 was known to create a false positive rate of 97%.4 In short, by using an exaggerated CT, healthy people were deemed stricken with COVID-19, and the fraud was further propped up by introducing the fallacy that asymptomatic carriers were responsible for a large portion of the spread.
Now, the CDC has suddenly lowered the CT considerably — from 40 to 28 or lower5 — in what appears to be a clear effort to hide COVID-19 breakthrough cases in those injected with the COVID-19 vaccine.
The CDC has put new policies in place which effectively created a tiered system of diagnosis. Meaning, from now on, unvaccinated people will find it much easier to be diagnosed with Covid19 than vaccinated people. ~ Off-Guardian May 18, 2021
To understand just how significant of a change this is, consider that the CT refers to the number of cycles the PCR test is run at, and each cycle doubles the magnification of the viral RNA fragment that the test supposedly looks for.
That means a switch from 40 to 28 reduces the magnification, i.e., the sensitivity of the test, by more than 4,000 times. The end result is far fewer positive test results. However, this only applies to people who are being tested for breakthrough infection.
So, as vaccinated individuals are contracting the illness, they’re now less likely to register as positive cases, which makes the “vaccine” appear more protective than it might be in actuality.
Had a CT of 28 been used all along, we would have had nowhere near the number of “cases” currently touted and the pandemic would have been declared over sometime in 2020. Conversely, were a CT of 40 or higher used to diagnose breakthrough cases, you can be sure the numbers would be far higher than currently reported.

Mild Infections No Longer Count​

To boost the appearance of vaccine efficacy even further, the CDC also will no longer record mild or asymptomatic infections in vaccinated individuals as “COVID cases.” The only cases that now count as COVID cases — if the patient has been vaccinated against COVID-19, that is — are those that result in hospitalization or death.6
Meanwhile, if you’re unvaccinated and come down with a mild case, or if you test positive at a higher CT and have no symptoms, you still count as a COVID case. As explained by Off-Guardian:7




As of April 30, 2021, the CDC had received a total of 10,262 reports of vaccine breakthrough infections,8 which it admitted was a “substantial undercount,” as they’re using a passive surveillance system that relies on voluntary reporting from state health departments.9 May 17, 2021, the number of breakthrough cases was slashed to 1,949, as the new guidance that only takes hospitalizations and deaths into account took effect.10

Double Standards Drive Public Abuse​

By keeping the old rules for unvaccinated people — which results in a large amount of false positives and an overcount of “cases” — and applying new rules for vaccinated individuals that result in a significant number of false negatives and an undercount of cases, you end up with statistics that conform to the propaganda of the mainstream media, which falsely suggests COVID-19 is far more prevalent among unvaccinated people and that the vaccine works far better than it actually does.
All of this is to support getting as many people vaccinated with this worse than worthless, dangerous “vaccine.” As noted by Off-Guardian:11

When asked why the CDC would not include asymptomatic or mildly symptomatic cases if they’ve been vaccinated, CDC director Dr. Rochelle Walensky said that it’s because vaccinated asymptomatic and mildly symptomatic people carry very little virus.12
Convenient isn’t it? This reply was never given when they were counting asymptomatic, falsely positive COVID tests as “cases,” equating them instead to deaths to increase fear in order to drive people to get vaccinated.
As I’ve explained on many previous occasions, in order to be infectious, you need a sufficiently high viral load, and the viruses must be live in order to replicate. A significant problem with the PCR test is it cannot differentiate between dead or inactive viral debris and live virus.
The reason a healthy person can test positive for COVID-19 is because the test, when used at a high CT, will magnify noninfectious or harmless segments of DNA that are not related to infectious viral particles. So, again, the CDC is now admitting asymptomatic people pose no real infection risk, but they only apply this logic to those who have been vaccinated while continuing the lying charade for the unvaccinated.

Lockdowns Should Not be Based on Mass PCR Testing​

More and more information is coming out showing how PCR testing has been misused. As noted in one German study, posted on the preprint server medRxiv, May 19, 2021:13

They based this conclusion on the fact that only 40.6% of positive test results had used a CT of 25 or lower. At this low CT, a positive test result has a decent chance of being accurate, which means even if symptoms are mild, the patient is likely to be infectious.
The remainder of positive tests, 59.4%, were using a CT above 25, which means they were more likely to be false positives. As detailed in “The Insanity of the PCR Testing Saga,” to obtain 100% confirmed real positives, you have to use a CT of 17.
Clearly, self-quarantining and lockdowns are irrational if nearly 60% of so-called COVID cases are noninfectious. The PCR test can also detect dead viral RNA for months after an active infection, making the test even more unreliable.
One country that has acknowledged the madness of mass PCR testing is Sweden which, at the end of November 2020, stopped relying on this test to determine cases. As noted on the Swedish Public Health Agency’s website (translated from Swedish):14,15



A COVID-19 working group met April 19, 2021, to discuss whether these rules needed to be updated in light of new variants. It was decided that no change in rules was needed.16,17

UK Is Also Manipulating Data to Hide Vaccine Failure​

Signs that other countries are starting to manipulate data to hide vaccine failure are also evident. For example, in the U.K., they’ve now dropped the rule that anyone having tested positive for SARS-CoV-2 within 28 days of dying is to be counted as a COVID-19 death.
Now that vaccines are out, COVID-19 will only be listed as the cause of death if the patient actually died from an active case of COVID-19 and nothing else. As reported by iNews:18



An Undeclared War Against the Public​

While many people around the world still believe COVID-19 has been one of the deadliest pandemics in modern history and those of us who have survived are the lucky ones, the facts indeed tell a very different story.
When you look at how case rates and death statistics have been collected and reported, and how those parameters have changed along the way, you realize that the pandemic was a mirage, created through the manipulation of data and nothing else.
More than a year and a half has been stolen from us in an undeclared war against the public. Even with mounting awareness of the facts, the deep state players responsible for this cruel hoax are not likely to call it quits. They have a long-term goal, and that is the complete takeover and control of the global wealth and population.
So, as we move forward, we can expect more cover-ups, more obfuscation, more attempts to whitewash the truth and protect the guilty parties. Case in point: The COVID Commission Planning Group, tasked with planning the creation of an “independent” investigative commission like that for 9/11,19 is filled with people who have serious conflicts of interest.
As reported by the Miller Center,20 the COVID Commission Planning Group is backed by charitable foundations that have been part of a technocratic alliance that for years, in some cases decades, have been plotting and planning for the wealth redistribution and global power grab we’re now experiencing.
The chosen leader of this new planning group is Philip Zelikow, former executive director of the 9/11 Commission21 and a member of the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation’s Global Development Program Advisory Panel.22,23
Zelikow, a former director of the Miller Center of Public Affairs at the University of Virginia, is also a current strategy group member of the Aspen Institute,24 a technocratic hub that has groomed and mentored executives from around the world about the subtleties of globalization.
He also directed the Markle Foundation’s Task Force on National Security in the Information Age,25 the focus of which has been to make information relating to potential security threats discoverable and accessible to officials.26

Bioterror Is the New Never-Ending War​

In a May 16, 2021, article, Off-Guardian details Zelikow’s conflicts of interest, and why the COVID-19 pandemic is unlikely to be resolved anytime soon, at least if the technocratic deep state looking for a Great Reset can prevent it:27




Indeed, fear has been weaponized with devastating effect over the past year, and it is what allows the destruction of our freedoms.

The Time to Stand for Freedom Is NOW​

In 2007, Naomi Wolf published “The End of America: Letter of Warning to a Young Patriot,” in which she lays out the 10 steps to tyranny. She’s now warning everyone, everywhere, that we are at Step 10. Once Step 10 locks into place, there’s no going back. It’ll be too dangerous to fight back.
The good news is the would-be tyrants have not won yet. That said, we have no time to spare. We have no time to remain idle, hoping it will all just go back to normal on its own. The answer is peaceful mass civil disobedience. It’s time to say NO to any and all pandemic measures.
We must also rally behind legislation that prevents the alteration of laws that safeguard our freedoms. To that end, Wolf has started the Five Freedoms Campaign, which you can find on her Daily Clout website.
The campaign focuses on creating legislation to preserve key freedoms and prevent emergency laws from infringing on our freedom to assemble, worship, protest and engage in business. Legislation is also being crafted to open schools, remove mask mandates and eliminate requirements for vaccine passports.
I have no doubt that we will ultimately stop the globalists’ drive toward loss of personal freedoms and global tyranny. It’s not going to be easy. It may take years, and it may get far worse before it gets better, but if we unite, there’s no doubt we will win.

I’m sure it’s all just a misunderstanding.

Link?
 
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CDC Caught Cooking the Books on COVID Vaccines​

Analysis by Dr. Joseph Mercola

STORY AT-A-GLANCE​

  • COVID-19 has been a pandemic of false positive tests; the thing that kept the fraud going was the fact that laboratories were using excessively high cycle thresholds (CTs) when processing the PCR tests, resulting in false positives
  • Now, as over 100 million Americans have been “vaccinated” against COVID-19, the CDC is lowering the CT from 40 to 28, but only when diagnosing vaccine breakthrough cases — cases where fully vaccinated individuals are diagnosed with COVID-19
  • To make matters worse, the CDC also will no longer record mild or asymptomatic infections of those who were immunized as “COVID cases.” The only cases that now count as COVID cases for someone immunized with the COVID-19 vaccine are those that result in hospitalization or death
  • While healthy people continue to be misdiagnosed as having COVID-19 when they really don’t, thanks to an excessively high CT, the CDC is simultaneously minimizing the number of breakthrough cases by using a CT that will minimize the number of false positives
  • Other countries are also manipulating data to boost COVID-19 vaccine efficacy and hide breakthrough cases. In the U.K., COVID-19 will only be listed as the cause of death if the patient actually died from an active case of COVID-19 and nothing else
For many months now, we’ve known the COVID-19 pandemic was the result of statistical manipulation and a fraudulent testing strategy. I detailed this scheme in “COVID-19 Testing Scandal Deepens” and “Astonishing COVID-19 Testing Fraud Revealed.”
Now, as the infection has become endemic in most parts of the world and the mass vaccination drive is in full swing, U.S. health authorities are massaging data and revising testing recommendations yet again — this time to hide the ineffectiveness of the vaccines. As reported by Off-Guardian, May 18, 2021:1


1.False-postive tests. The unreliable PCR test can be manipulated into reporting a high number of false-positives by altering the cycle threshold (CT value).2
2.Inflated Case-count. The incredibly broad definition of ‘Covid case,’ used all over the world, lists anyone who receives a positive test as a ‘Covid19 case,’ even if they never experienced any symptoms.

CDC Is Cooking the Books on COVID Breakthrough Cases​

Originally, the CDC recommended labs use a CT of 403 when testing for SARS-CoV-2 infection. This despite using a CT above 35 was known to create a false positive rate of 97%.4 In short, by using an exaggerated CT, healthy people were deemed stricken with COVID-19, and the fraud was further propped up by introducing the fallacy that asymptomatic carriers were responsible for a large portion of the spread.
Now, the CDC has suddenly lowered the CT considerably — from 40 to 28 or lower5 — in what appears to be a clear effort to hide COVID-19 breakthrough cases in those injected with the COVID-19 vaccine.
The CDC has put new policies in place which effectively created a tiered system of diagnosis. Meaning, from now on, unvaccinated people will find it much easier to be diagnosed with Covid19 than vaccinated people. ~ Off-Guardian May 18, 2021
To understand just how significant of a change this is, consider that the CT refers to the number of cycles the PCR test is run at, and each cycle doubles the magnification of the viral RNA fragment that the test supposedly looks for.
That means a switch from 40 to 28 reduces the magnification, i.e., the sensitivity of the test, by more than 4,000 times. The end result is far fewer positive test results. However, this only applies to people who are being tested for breakthrough infection.
So, as vaccinated individuals are contracting the illness, they’re now less likely to register as positive cases, which makes the “vaccine” appear more protective than it might be in actuality.
Had a CT of 28 been used all along, we would have had nowhere near the number of “cases” currently touted and the pandemic would have been declared over sometime in 2020. Conversely, were a CT of 40 or higher used to diagnose breakthrough cases, you can be sure the numbers would be far higher than currently reported.

Mild Infections No Longer Count​

To boost the appearance of vaccine efficacy even further, the CDC also will no longer record mild or asymptomatic infections in vaccinated individuals as “COVID cases.” The only cases that now count as COVID cases — if the patient has been vaccinated against COVID-19, that is — are those that result in hospitalization or death.6
Meanwhile, if you’re unvaccinated and come down with a mild case, or if you test positive at a higher CT and have no symptoms, you still count as a COVID case. As explained by Off-Guardian:7




As of April 30, 2021, the CDC had received a total of 10,262 reports of vaccine breakthrough infections,8 which it admitted was a “substantial undercount,” as they’re using a passive surveillance system that relies on voluntary reporting from state health departments.9 May 17, 2021, the number of breakthrough cases was slashed to 1,949, as the new guidance that only takes hospitalizations and deaths into account took effect.10

Double Standards Drive Public Abuse​

By keeping the old rules for unvaccinated people — which results in a large amount of false positives and an overcount of “cases” — and applying new rules for vaccinated individuals that result in a significant number of false negatives and an undercount of cases, you end up with statistics that conform to the propaganda of the mainstream media, which falsely suggests COVID-19 is far more prevalent among unvaccinated people and that the vaccine works far better than it actually does.
All of this is to support getting as many people vaccinated with this worse than worthless, dangerous “vaccine.” As noted by Off-Guardian:11

When asked why the CDC would not include asymptomatic or mildly symptomatic cases if they’ve been vaccinated, CDC director Dr. Rochelle Walensky said that it’s because vaccinated asymptomatic and mildly symptomatic people carry very little virus.12
Convenient isn’t it? This reply was never given when they were counting asymptomatic, falsely positive COVID tests as “cases,” equating them instead to deaths to increase fear in order to drive people to get vaccinated.
As I’ve explained on many previous occasions, in order to be infectious, you need a sufficiently high viral load, and the viruses must be live in order to replicate. A significant problem with the PCR test is it cannot differentiate between dead or inactive viral debris and live virus.
The reason a healthy person can test positive for COVID-19 is because the test, when used at a high CT, will magnify noninfectious or harmless segments of DNA that are not related to infectious viral particles. So, again, the CDC is now admitting asymptomatic people pose no real infection risk, but they only apply this logic to those who have been vaccinated while continuing the lying charade for the unvaccinated.

Lockdowns Should Not be Based on Mass PCR Testing​

More and more information is coming out showing how PCR testing has been misused. As noted in one German study, posted on the preprint server medRxiv, May 19, 2021:13

They based this conclusion on the fact that only 40.6% of positive test results had used a CT of 25 or lower. At this low CT, a positive test result has a decent chance of being accurate, which means even if symptoms are mild, the patient is likely to be infectious.
The remainder of positive tests, 59.4%, were using a CT above 25, which means they were more likely to be false positives. As detailed in “The Insanity of the PCR Testing Saga,” to obtain 100% confirmed real positives, you have to use a CT of 17.
Clearly, self-quarantining and lockdowns are irrational if nearly 60% of so-called COVID cases are noninfectious. The PCR test can also detect dead viral RNA for months after an active infection, making the test even more unreliable.
One country that has acknowledged the madness of mass PCR testing is Sweden which, at the end of November 2020, stopped relying on this test to determine cases. As noted on the Swedish Public Health Agency’s website (translated from Swedish):14,15



A COVID-19 working group met April 19, 2021, to discuss whether these rules needed to be updated in light of new variants. It was decided that no change in rules was needed.16,17

UK Is Also Manipulating Data to Hide Vaccine Failure​

Signs that other countries are starting to manipulate data to hide vaccine failure are also evident. For example, in the U.K., they’ve now dropped the rule that anyone having tested positive for SARS-CoV-2 within 28 days of dying is to be counted as a COVID-19 death.
Now that vaccines are out, COVID-19 will only be listed as the cause of death if the patient actually died from an active case of COVID-19 and nothing else. As reported by iNews:18



An Undeclared War Against the Public​

While many people around the world still believe COVID-19 has been one of the deadliest pandemics in modern history and those of us who have survived are the lucky ones, the facts indeed tell a very different story.
When you look at how case rates and death statistics have been collected and reported, and how those parameters have changed along the way, you realize that the pandemic was a mirage, created through the manipulation of data and nothing else.
More than a year and a half has been stolen from us in an undeclared war against the public. Even with mounting awareness of the facts, the deep state players responsible for this cruel hoax are not likely to call it quits. They have a long-term goal, and that is the complete takeover and control of the global wealth and population.
So, as we move forward, we can expect more cover-ups, more obfuscation, more attempts to whitewash the truth and protect the guilty parties. Case in point: The COVID Commission Planning Group, tasked with planning the creation of an “independent” investigative commission like that for 9/11,19 is filled with people who have serious conflicts of interest.
As reported by the Miller Center,20 the COVID Commission Planning Group is backed by charitable foundations that have been part of a technocratic alliance that for years, in some cases decades, have been plotting and planning for the wealth redistribution and global power grab we’re now experiencing.
The chosen leader of this new planning group is Philip Zelikow, former executive director of the 9/11 Commission21 and a member of the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation’s Global Development Program Advisory Panel.22,23
Zelikow, a former director of the Miller Center of Public Affairs at the University of Virginia, is also a current strategy group member of the Aspen Institute,24 a technocratic hub that has groomed and mentored executives from around the world about the subtleties of globalization.
He also directed the Markle Foundation’s Task Force on National Security in the Information Age,25 the focus of which has been to make information relating to potential security threats discoverable and accessible to officials.26

Bioterror Is the New Never-Ending War​

In a May 16, 2021, article, Off-Guardian details Zelikow’s conflicts of interest, and why the COVID-19 pandemic is unlikely to be resolved anytime soon, at least if the technocratic deep state looking for a Great Reset can prevent it:27




Indeed, fear has been weaponized with devastating effect over the past year, and it is what allows the destruction of our freedoms.

The Time to Stand for Freedom Is NOW​

In 2007, Naomi Wolf published “The End of America: Letter of Warning to a Young Patriot,” in which she lays out the 10 steps to tyranny. She’s now warning everyone, everywhere, that we are at Step 10. Once Step 10 locks into place, there’s no going back. It’ll be too dangerous to fight back.
The good news is the would-be tyrants have not won yet. That said, we have no time to spare. We have no time to remain idle, hoping it will all just go back to normal on its own. The answer is peaceful mass civil disobedience. It’s time to say NO to any and all pandemic measures.
We must also rally behind legislation that prevents the alteration of laws that safeguard our freedoms. To that end, Wolf has started the Five Freedoms Campaign, which you can find on her Daily Clout website.
The campaign focuses on creating legislation to preserve key freedoms and prevent emergency laws from infringing on our freedom to assemble, worship, protest and engage in business. Legislation is also being crafted to open schools, remove mask mandates and eliminate requirements for vaccine passports.
I have no doubt that we will ultimately stop the globalists’ drive toward loss of personal freedoms and global tyranny. It’s not going to be easy. It may take years, and it may get far worse before it gets better, but if we unite, there’s no doubt we will win.
So Will are you saying you don't like the vaccine the ended the pandemic? People are really strange. Good news like effective vaccines send certain people off the deep end.
 

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So Will are you saying you don't like the vaccine the ended the pandemic? People are really strange. Good news like effective vaccines send certain people off the deep end.
I stopped reading Will's post after I read US manipulating data to hide how ineffective it is after I read they are only counting COVID cases based on hospitalization and death. The vaccines were never promoted as protecting you from getting COVID-19. They were promoted as giving people the ability to fight off serious infections resulting in hospitalizations and death. The vaccines have proven to be effective against most of the variants.
 
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I stopped reading Will's post after I read US manipulating data to hide how ineffective it is after I read they are only counting COVID cases based on hospitalization and death. The vaccines were never promoted as protecting you from getting COVID-19. They were promoted as giving people the ability to fight off serious infections resulting in hospitalizations and death. The vaccines have proven to be effective against most of the variants.

Also since after monitoring breakthrough cases for 3 months, the numbers were consistent, 0.01%

Dr Mercola is a big time anti-vaxxer, so tough to take anything in that article seriously.
 
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1.07M shots yesterday so total up to 317.1 with the 7 day rolling average at 1.3M. 84% of shots administered is the national average, 53.2% of population with 1+ dose (68.6% of the adult population), 44.9% of population fully vaccinated.

So far, 177 million Americans have received at least one dose of a vaccine. At least 149 million people have completed a vaccination regimen.

7,782 positives reported yesterday compared to 13,437 week over week. 7-day rolling average is at 11,832.

Fatality was 170 compared to 393 yesterday and 355 week over week, 7-day rolling fatality at 301.

Hospitalizations reported 7 day rolling average is 13,344 compared to one week ago 15,412 down 13.4%.

Hospital admissions reported 7 day rolling average is 1,931 compared to one week ago 2,155 down 10.4%.

0.85M shots yesterday so total up to 317.9M with the 7 day rolling average at 1.24M. 84% of shots administered is the national average, 53.3% of population with 1+ dose (68.7% of the adult population), 45.1% of population fully vaccinated.

So far, 177 million Americans have received at least one dose of a vaccine. At least 150 million people have completed a vaccination regimen.

4,422 positives reported yesterday compared to 9,134 week over week. 7-day rolling average is at 11,158.

Fatality was 86 compared to 170 yesterday and 155 week over week, 7-day rolling fatality at 291.

Hospitalizations reported 7 day rolling average is 12,879 compared to one week ago 15,042 down 14.4%.

Hospital admissions reported 7 day rolling average is 1,878 compared to one week ago 2,121 down 11.4%.

Continued constant decline in all metrics. Fatality at 86 is obviously due to many states not reporting on Sunday but still first time under 100 nationally. Realistic to think now that being under 10,000 cases per day on the 7 day average for daily positives is actually achievable by end of June. As is under 250 daily fatality on the 7 day.
 

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I stopped reading Will's post after I read US manipulating data to hide how ineffective it is after I read they are only counting COVID cases based on hospitalization and death. The vaccines were never promoted as protecting you from getting COVID-19. They were promoted as giving people the ability to fight off serious infections resulting in hospitalizations and death. The vaccines have proven to be effective against most of the variants.

I remember some of the vaccines being promoted as being 90-95% effective at preventing people from getting the virus 2 weeks after the last injection. When did this change? I never heard anyone say they were only to give people the ability to fight off serious infections. That was a possible side benefit if you happened to contract it after being immunized, but that was never the main purpose of the immunization. It was to prevent people from contracting it and spreading it. The propaganda around this virus changes so often that people don't know what to trust and what not to trust.
 

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I remember some of the vaccines being promoted as being 90-95% effective at preventing people from getting the virus 2 weeks after the last injection. When did this change? I never heard anyone say they were only to give people the ability to fight off serious infections. That was a possible side benefit if you happened to contract it after being immunized, but that was never the main purpose of the immunization. It was to prevent people from contracting it and spreading it. The propaganda around this virus changes so often that people don't know what to trust and what not to trust.

Nothing changed other than that poster's take on the vaccines.
 
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Holy Crap...from the World Health Org:

Children should not be vaccinated for the moment.

There is not yet enough evidence on the use of vaccines against COVID-19 in children to make recommendations for children to be vaccinated against COVID-19. Children and adolescents tend to have milder disease compared to adults. However, children should continue to have the recommended childhood vaccines.
 
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Holy Crap...from the World Health Org:

Children should not be vaccinated for the moment.

There is not yet enough evidence on the use of vaccines against COVID-19 in children to make recommendations for children to be vaccinated against COVID-19. Children and adolescents tend to have milder disease compared to adults. However, children should continue to have the recommended childhood vaccines.

I‘m sure it’s all just a misunderstanding.
 
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I was at a graduation party yesterday and the TV was on in the living room. While I was picking up some food in the kitchen, I looked over to see ABC news on and a segment about the Delta variant. They had the same doctor from Texas somewhere that is on MSNBC all the time and is crazy anti-republican and he was going on about the delta variant. I really do not like the guy as way too political to be taken seriously as a doctor. But you can see the delta variant fear porn on the media ramping up some as flip around the channels. Of course no mention of record low daily metrics that have been on the downward swing for 2+ months now.

Talked to a doctor friend of mine who works Urgent care. Hadn't seen him since last summer as kids swim together and summer swim season started back up this past weekend. He said that basically in his eyes Covid is done. He now can go a couple of days without seeing a Covid positive patient whereas before it was multiple per day. Actually said he is now seeing a lot of common cold and strep throat patients. Basically as people get back to normal, all the typical stuff is coming back which also led him to believe that Covid was fizzling out as the 'typical' diseases were coming back again.
 
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I was at a graduation party yesterday and the TV was on in the living room. While I was picking up some food in the kitchen, I looked over to see ABC news on and a segment about the Delta variant. They had the same doctor from Texas somewhere that is on MSNBC all the time and is crazy anti-republican and he was going on about the delta variant. I really do not like the guy as way too political to be taken seriously as a doctor. But you can see the delta variant fear porn on the media ramping up some as flip around the channels. Of course no mention of record low daily metrics that have been on the downward swing for 2+ months now.

Talked to a doctor friend of mine who works Urgent care. Hadn't seen him since last summer as kids swim together and summer swim season started back up this past weekend. He said that basically in his eyes Covid is done. He now can go a couple of days without seeing a Covid positive patient whereas before it was multiple per day. Actually said he is now seeing a lot of common cold and strep throat patients. Basically as people get back to normal, all the typical stuff is coming back which also led him to believe that Covid was fizzling out as the 'typical' diseases were coming back again.

I agree with everything you are saying here. I believe Covid is pretty much over in this country. I say "pretty much over" and not "over" because it's still out there. There is still a threat since less than half of us are vaccinated. The threat of a very contagious variant ripping through the unvaccinated portion of our population. And the threat of a stronger break through variant that could push us back toward square one.

If the message is that it's over, the 55% unvaccinated have no incentive to get vaccinated. If the message is that this isn't over yet, a lot of us view the message as "fear porn". I'm not sure what the balanced message should be that would adequately push unvaccinated toward getting vaccinated while not pissing off the rest of us.

Personally, I just ignore the "fear porn" (I truly hate that term and wish it would die off) and assume the message is meant to get more people vaccinated and is not directed at me.