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Would have loved to have seen where this team would be
This team may not make the tournament, but I guarantee there will be quite a few teams in the tournament that aren’t as good. That’s my problem with the auto bids and the love affair with the mid majors that the NCAA has. Who would be a more deserving #15 or #16 seed...Penn State or Nothwestern Eastern Prairie State Community College?Would have loved to have seen where this team would be at if Reaves had not run into the academic issue. Can't be understated the influence he has when in the lineup and I'm thinking we're no worse than 20-6 right now if he didn't miss time. It is what it is though and have to give credit to whole team for battling through it. Remaining schedule is very tough but wouldn't count these guys out against anyone.
Would have loved to have seen where this team would be at if Reaves had not run into the academic issue. Can't be understated the influence he has when in the lineup and I'm thinking we're no worse than 20-6 right now if he didn't miss time. It is what it is though and have to give credit to whole team for battling through it. Remaining schedule is very tough but wouldn't count these guys out against anyone.
This team may not make the tournament, but I guarantee there will be quite a few teams in the tournament that aren’t as good. That’s my problem with the auto bids and the love affair with the mid majors that the NCAA has. Who would be a more deserving #15 or #16 seed...Penn State or Nothwestern Eastern Prairie State Community College?
Never heard of "dratings". I am familiar with Joe Lunardi though, and he has PSU nowhere near the bubble. Nor does the RPI. KenPom looks great though. Unfortunately I don't know if KenPom carries any weight? Palm says 12-6, nothing else. Palm is the foremost respected guy. Uncle Lar, you can weigh in on this stuff since this is your ball park.
I'm not "anti Chambers", I am anti losing. I only want a coach that can take PSU to the dance, that's all I ask. Chambers isn't near it, unless he can win at Mackey, beat Ohio State twice, beat Michigan, then win at Lincoln.
I doubt the Minnesota game goes to overtime with Reaves playing.The only game Im sure they win out of those for is Indiana, awful defense vs Minnesota (terrible game plan too) so he wouldn't have been enough. Maybe they win at Northwestern but both of those games PSU gave sub par efforts, especially after beating Nebraska.
Agree, but it is nice for every conference to send a team. Should go to 72 or even 80 and make some of those AQ's play each other in a 16-17 or 15-18 matchup. Either that or a couple of those conferences should drop to D2, 300+ D1 teams is too many anyhow.
I feel bad for the Illinois coach. They run lots of good stuff on offense, have had tons of cuts that were open, dribble handoffs for nice midrange and their guys move without the ball. But only about 2 of them can shoot.
Then this program is screwed for recruiting. You can't make a coach a lame duck -- he MUST either be extended or cut after THIS season, there is no other option. No way is he fired, so an extension is coming.I would not give him a long term extension, but he has done enough to come back next year.
Then this program is screwed for recruiting. You can't make a coach a lame duck -- he MUST either be extended or cut after THIS season, there is no other option. No way is he fired, so an extension is coming.
Recruiting Carr, Stevens, and Watkins was tremendous. Unfortunately he didn't back that up with a good class last year.You have to give Chambers credit for the way he has recruited, particularly in the Philadelphia region. I think it is a no brainer that he gets an extension.
A big part of it is the luck of the draw with the unbalanced schedule. They only met the top 4 once each, while they get Rutgers, Ilinois, Wisconsin, and Minnesota twice each. Still need to win the games, but it's why the committee digs deeper than conference standings when sorting teams out.They just showed the b1g standings. I don't pay much attention to what is going on in the conference outside of Penn State, so I was shocked to see nebraska with a 10-4 conference record. How did that happen?
This. True but even those two get the majority of their rebounds due to their athleticism. Too mnay guys watch the shot go up and dont look to get a body.
Wheeler was a steal... and let's not forget about getting Reaves in Watkins class (both were 4* recruits, Reaves from Oak Hill Academy). We have two top 150 recruits coming in this year too.Recruiting Carr, Stevens, and Watkins was tremendous. Unfortunately he didn't back that up with a good class last year.
Recruiting Carr, Stevens, and Watkins was tremendous. Unfortunately he didn't back that up with a good class last year.
PSU will get in if they win 3 of the next 4 but the likelihood of that happening is not good.If PSU finishes 11-7, assuming the loss is on the road at Purdue, that means they will have gone 8-2 in their last 10 games. They will have beaten Ohio State twice, Michigan, and Nebraska on the road. I am not saying it makes them a lock, but if they also win a couple of games in the tournament I have a hard time believing they will get left out. I also believe the committee will take into account the fact that Josh Reeves was out for an extended period. Also, if the season plays out the way I described, Patrick Chambers is not going anywhere. There is no way Penn State will fire him. I would not give him a long term extension, but he has done enough to come back next year.
PSU will get in if they win 3 of the next 4 but the likelihood of that happening is not good.
Ok I’ll bite. How many, if any, of the next 4 games does PSU win?And again! He's on a roll!!
I mentioned Watkins but good catch on Reaves. That's 4 quality players.Wheeler was a steal... and let's not forget about getting Reaves in Watkins class (both were 4* recruits, Reaves from Oak Hill Academy). We have two top 150 recruits coming in this year too.
PSU will get in if they win 3 of the next 4 but the likelihood of that happening is not good.
I mentioned Watkins but good catch on Reaves. That's 4 quality players.
Last year's class (Wheeler, Buttrick, and Harrar) was ranked 117th nationally and 13th out of 14 in the BiG (lowest average rating but NW only signed 1).
I mentioned Watkins but good catch on Reaves. That's 4 quality players.
Last year's class (Wheeler, Buttrick, and Harrar) was ranked 117th nationally and 13th out of 14 in the BiG (lowest average rating but NW only signed 1).
A big part of it is the luck of the draw with the unbalanced schedule. They only met the top 4 once each, while they get Rutgers, Ilinois, Wisconsin, and Minnesota twice each. Still need to win the games, but it's why the committee digs deeper than conference standings when sorting teams out.
117th nationally is not terrible for Penn State basketball, particularly when you have 4 returning freshmen who will be be getting a lot of playing time over the next 3 years.
They just showed the b1g standings. I don't pay much attention to what is going on in the conference outside of Penn State, so I was shocked to see nebraska with a 10-4 conference record. How did that happen?
Sure you can respond to bdgan’s post, but you won’t respond to the “pesky” ones. pvssybdgan doesn't get invited to a lot of parties.
Once the product is on the court, who cares about rankings?? Wheeler has proven he was undervalued. Harrah was an army football commit till late, so he was not even really evaluated as a hoops recruit.I mentioned Watkins but good catch on Reaves. That's 4 quality players.
Last year's class (Wheeler, Buttrick, and Harrar) was ranked 117th nationally and 13th out of 14 in the BiG (lowest average rating but NW only signed 1).
Once the product is on the court, who cares about rankings?? Wheeler has proven he was undervalued. Harrah was an army football commit till late, so he was not even really evaluated as a hoops recruit.
Recruiting Carr, Stevens, and Watkins was tremendous. Unfortunately he didn't back that up with a good class last year.