Thread on testing & treatment research for COVID-19
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There were once long-term concerns about swine flu
www.thestar.com
And avian flu
www.thegazette.com
Swine flu fallout: many suffer nagging symptoms long after H1N1 subsides
Many Canadians are just getting over a bout with H1N1 flu that lasted months.
And avian flu
Long-term effects of bird flu still uncertain
DES MOINES — Iowa produces more eggs than any state in the country, and is ninth nationally in turkey production. …
www.thegazette.com
I appreciate these articles but anything that starts with "may" or "could" falls into the category of fear porn given the level of misinformation out there.There were once long-term concerns about swine flu
Swine flu fallout: many suffer nagging symptoms long after H1N1 subsides
Many Canadians are just getting over a bout with H1N1 flu that lasted months.
And avian flu
Long-term effects of bird flu still uncertain
DES MOINES — Iowa produces more eggs than any state in the country, and is ninth nationally in turkey production. …
completely agree. they are not scientific articles at all as they basically say since this is new, we don't know anything and won't know anything for years and years and years to come. that is not science, that is conjecture which is somewhat the opposite of science. to make it worse, they imply that long term issues could be severe with the obvious reason to say that to scare people. but again, they have no science to back up these claims that severe long term effects are even probable as if you look at previous flu virus's, it is most probably that severe long term effects are NOT going to happen to the general population.
Who woulda guessed that this thread would still be going in October at 79 pages and there is still nothing like a targeted treatment -- only supportive care -- proning, oxygen, steroids, anticoagulants etc. Even remdesivir hasn't yet shown any effect on mortality.
And yet, on the other hand, there's a high likelihood we will see a vaccine approved before the end of the year -- which is the fastest a vaccine's ever been developed by like 4 years. So we're in the dark ages and at the same time advancing incredibly fast. An interesting time to be alive.
And yet, on the other hand, there's a high likelihood we will see a vaccine approved before the end of the year -- which is the fastest a vaccine's ever been developed by like 4 years. So we're in the dark ages and at the same time advancing incredibly fast. An interesting time to be alive.
Among countries with more than 10 million people, only the UK is testing at a higher rate than the USA.
And the UK has a high death rate in spite of the amount of testing.
I struggle to believe that we have a testing deficiency. Drive through testing sites near me closed due to a lack of demand some time ago. The same thing was happening when I was down south. I suspect the problem is when a populated area gets a sudden flare up that it takes time to ramp up for.
yeah, again science journals going into opinion and politics. USA has as much testing as anybody out there. In certain areas where you have the flare up, then testing gets stressed. But any country in the world will have that same issue.
Agree but I think the latest number I saw was 45-50% of Covid deaths are from nursing homes. Average nursing home stay is 18-24 months before death. Approximately 1/3 die in first year, 1/3 die in second year, remaining 1/3 die in 3rd year. So when people in nursing homes get pneumonia or any general virus, they die. Even though those same diseases are easily cured within the general population, when people in nursing homes get them (as nursing home people are by definition old and of not good health, otherwise you are not in a nursing home) those people are going to die.
Test results come back in 24 hours in my area.
It becomes important if You want to use testing to further open segments of society and business. Imagine being able to conduct a rapid test scenario with a live music venue.
Your drive thru testing site didn’t take dinner reservations.
Nowhere that I am aware of. Shapiro was pushing for and holding out for such a test so as to have the Lockn festival this year.
My one neighbor is a hospital executive and he had been discussing the concept since March and how it would benefit the economy allowing for more seating at restaurants, bars, etc.
Most sports teams are using some form of rapid testing that allows them to test daily. The Big 10 testing regimen will be a rapid antigen test, with 15 minute turn around time. Barry Alvarez keeps saying "get tested before breakfast, have the results before they are done eating" so they can then go on with their days, practices, games etc. Think about the testing deficit in this country in comparison to the availability and rate of testing of the sports teams. The teams get tested daily, or near daily, Big 10 player will get tested daily. Why is that? To rapidly identify positive cases and isolate them. The goal of testing in public health terms is not to identify negatives but to identify positives, isolate them and trace and test their contacts. Thats the way to suppress the rate of infection. Identify positive cases while asymptomatic/ presymptmatic and get them out of circulation. Rapid (15 minute antigen based testing) that is widely available, coupled to robust contact tracing is one f the key tools to reopening the economy and getting everyone, not just athletes back to work.
of course have a 15 minute test apparatus, with trained personnel, and all the reagents at every point of entrance into a public space would be great. but that isn't reality, so what is the point of talking about it.
