Thoughts on the continuing Ukraine disaster...six months in

WeR0206

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Bullshit you're not, you're firmly a Kremlin boot licker. And what's a worse and more of a threat to America? A few battalions of Nazis or a full army of Communists?
Lulz. I have no love for commies. Oh so the USSR was never dissolved? Russia isnt run by commies anymore. The goons at the WEF who control the west are the commies and they are leading everyone down the primrose path. They REALLY want the US and Russia to destroy each other. Wake up!
 
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Lulz. I have no love for commies. Oh so the USSR was never dissolved? Russia isnt run by commies anymore. The goons at the WEF who control the west are the commies and they are leading everyone down the primrose path. They REALLY want the US and Russia to destroy each other. Wake up!
God damn son, turn off your laptop and pick up a history book, preferably one that doesn't delve into crazy conspiracy theories.
 

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Seems there is a growing chorus in Russia for Vlad to resign due to the 'success' of his invasion and victory.
 
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So the whole city are Nazis?

If all the people at fighting the Ukes in the Donbas it would be no contest and the Ukes would be quickly driven out. Yet Putinstan forces seem to be struggling all across the Ukraine territories.

Ok your number one problem is terminology. There is no war in the Ukraine. It's special military operation.

Second the Russian soldiers are not retreating. They are reorganizing. Reorganizing is not a bad thing. I just reorganized my closet and it was all good.
 

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Lulz. I have no love for commies. Oh so the USSR was never dissolved? Russia isnt run by commies anymore. The goons at the WEF who control the west are the commies and they are leading everyone down the primrose path. They REALLY want the US and Russia to destroy each other. Wake up!
What is your measuring stick for considering the mopup/special operations over? Zelensky out of power??
 

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Ukraine does have a significant White supremacist problem, people train there from all over the world. That said, the Azov unit is not it. That part has been long gone. The Russians are great at propaganda.
 

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You don’t think it’s possible for propaganda to trick large numbers of people into thinking the bad guys are actually the good guys? Also there are large chunks of Ukraine that are sympathetic to the nazis and their ultra nationalist views towards ethnic russians. Its what happens when you never denazify an area after WW2 and let the toxic nazi ideology to spread like a cancer.

Who exactly do you think make up the DPR and LPR militias/armies? It aint Russians soldiers its people who live in the Donbass. The Ukes were largely driven out, why do you think Russia/DPR/LPT forces were able to take so much territory so fast? It was pretty much already secured up to the contact line.
Putin is NOT a good guy in all this. That’s absurd to suggest.
 

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Ukraine does have a significant White supremacist problem, people train there from all over the world. That said, the Azov unit is not it. That part has been long gone. The Russians are great at propaganda.
What a pathetic attempt at gaslighting that article makes. Nazis don’t reform overnight. See my links posted upstream. Even the msm was calling out Ukraines nazi problem from 2014 all the way up to 2020 etc then suddenly in 2022 they instantly become reformed nazis. Yeah right. If so why do they still have nazi symbolism all over their patches (wolfsangel) and flags (black sun)? Would you believe a KKK militia if they suddenly claimed to be reformed when billions in weapons and funding was on the table?

Start here:
(Watch the BBC debunk its own denial of nazis in Ukraine. Backup link:
https://rumble.com/vyczkz-watch-the-bbc-debunk-its-own-denial-of-nazis-in-ukraine.html)
 
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Don’t get too excited yet. 2500 sq k is about three counties in Pa..... not a large area. But it appears to be critical areas as this is a center hub of major rail lines the Russians use to supply and move troops. One area was also a major staging base so deserting that base quickly had to abandon a lot of important equipment and intel.

It’s also interesting that don’t hear of massive air and missile attacks on advancing troops. The reports of Russians being really low on ammo and equipment must be true.

But war is a massive chess game with many feints and gambits. Who knows what the Russians are imo to?
 

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He’s not good but the lesser of two evils. Pick your poison. An authoritarian zelensky who silences all political opposition and uses evil nazi goons to do his dirty work/act as enforcers or Putin?
Which side is costing the world more? You suppose the world should turn a blind eye and allow Putin to basically take over Ukraine. That is absurd. To suggest that Putin's actions are due to the "Nazification" of Ukraine is also absurd. If that were the case, he could have done this years ago. He chose to do this NOW because Ukraine was on the road to joining NATO. THAT is why Putin is doing this, not because of any propaganda you seem to want to spread. It's because Putin saw that Ukraine is important to Russia's oil exports. It's because Putin did not want a NATO country right on it's border, even though he already has that, and has accelerated more joining NATO. It is because he wanted full control over the Black Sea. It is for a number of reasons. And NONE of them have anything to do with the Nazification of Ukraine. You have mush for a brain if you believe it is.
 

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Which side is costing the world more? You suppose the world should turn a blind eye and allow Putin to basically take over Ukraine. That is absurd. To suggest that Putin's actions are due to the "Nazification" of Ukraine is also absurd. If that were the case, he could have done this years ago. He chose to do this NOW because Ukraine was on the road to joining NATO. THAT is why Putin is doing this, not because of any propaganda you seem to want to spread. It's because Putin saw that Ukraine is important to Russia's oil exports. It's because Putin did not want a NATO country right on it's border, even though he already has that, and has accelerated more joining NATO. It is because he wanted full control over the Black Sea. It is for a number of reasons. And NONE of them have anything to do with the Nazification of Ukraine. You have mush for a brain if you believe it is.
How much is the WEF costing the world? That’s who’s ultimately controlling Zelensky and most western/nato countries. Putin didn’t force the EU to do their sanctions.

Where did I say denazification was the only reason? As you said nato posturing was another main reason along with the dozens of US funded biolabs right on his border (national security threat). Ukraine checked all the boxes to get putin fired up. All the same wef goons involved in the wuhan lab (ecohealth alliance, Peter Daszak, etc.) were involved in Ukrainian labs. It reeked. Putins moves surprised no one who had been paying attention.

Pick your poison: Klaus Schwab or Putin? Thats whos battling it out.
 

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Which side is costing the world more? You suppose the world should turn a blind eye and allow Putin to basically take over Ukraine. That is absurd. To suggest that Putin's actions are due to the "Nazification" of Ukraine is also absurd. If that were the case, he could have done this years ago. He chose to do this NOW because Ukraine was on the road to joining NATO. THAT is why Putin is doing this, not because of any propaganda you seem to want to spread. It's because Putin saw that Ukraine is important to Russia's oil exports. It's because Putin did not want a NATO country right on it's border, even though he already has that, and has accelerated more joining NATO. It is because he wanted full control over the Black Sea. It is for a number of reasons. And NONE of them have anything to do with the Nazification of Ukraine. You have mush for a brain if you believe it is.
Disagree as to timing. Putin acted because Magoo is a fool, a weak fool at that. He totally screwed in Afghanistan and is weak with Iran. The military is more about wokeism than war gaming. And most importantly, Putin saw how angry and divided NATO members were over the Afghanistan debacle and thought they would never unite against him.

All his talk about NATO or Nazis were smoke screens and false justification. He has lusted after Ukraine and especially Kyiv since he took power. He saw weakness and division so he acted. Just he as did with S Setia in Georgia, or the Moldavia, or Crimea. He sees weakness.....he acts
 
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Ok your number one problem is terminology. There is no war in the Ukraine. It's special military operation.

Second the Russian soldiers are not retreating. They are reorganizing. Reorganizing is not a bad thing. I just reorganized my closet and it was all good.
You spun dat well
 

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How much is the WEF costing the world? That’s who’s ultimately controlling Zelensky and most western/nato countries. Putin didn’t force the EU to do their sanctions.

Where did I say denazification was the only reason? As you said nato posturing was another main reason along with the dozens of US funded biolabs right on his border (national security threat). Ukraine checked all the boxes to get putin fired up. All the same wef goons involved in the wuhan lab (ecohealth alliance, Peter Daszak, etc.) were involved in Ukrainian labs. It reeked. Putins moves surprised no one who had been paying attention.

Pick your poison: Klaus Schwab or Putin? Thats whos battling it out.
Russian Bot.
 

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Disagree as to timing. Putin acted because Magoo is a fool, a weak fool at that. He totally screwed in Afghanistan and is weak with Iran. The military is more about wokeism than war gaming. And most importantly, Putin saw how angry and divided NATO members were over the Afghanistan debacle and thought they would never unite against him.

All his talk about NATO or Nazis were smoke screens and false justification. He has lusted after Ukraine and especially Kyiv since he took power. He saw weakness and division so he acted. Just he as did with S Setia in Georgia, or the Moldavia, or Crimea. He sees weakness.....he acts
Putin would have invaded Ukraine quicker if Trump had been CIC since Donnie really liked/worshiped Putin. Trump wanted to make NATO weak, just like Putin.
Speculation of course but to think CIC Biden is a reason for the Putin disaster is foolish.
 
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Seems there is a growing chorus in Russia for Vlad to resign due to the 'success' of his invasion and victory.

Putin may be going out on the high note of his glorious Ukraine military strategery.

Also I would advise all active Russian generals to avoid windows in high rise buildings.
 

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Putin may be going out on the high note of his glorious Ukraine military strategery.

Also I would advise all active Russian generals to avoid windows in high rise buildings.
The Russian Generals have a short life span in the Ukraine invasion. Because their troops can't be trusted the Generals have to be up front and exposed to shelling and snipers.
 
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The Russian Generals have a short life span in the Ukraine invasion. Because their troops can't be trusted the Generals have to be up front and exposed to shelling and snipers.

I would not want to be a Russian general right now. I'll bet they are also dodging a bit of "friendly" fire.
 
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Disagree as to timing. Putin acted because Magoo is a fool, a weak fool at that. He totally screwed in Afghanistan and is weak with Iran. The military is more about wokeism than war gaming. And most importantly, Putin saw how angry and divided NATO members were over the Afghanistan debacle and thought they would never unite against him.

All his talk about NATO or Nazis were smoke screens and false justification. He has lusted after Ukraine and especially Kyiv since he took power. He saw weakness and division so he acted. Just he as did with S Setia in Georgia, or the Moldavia, or Crimea. He sees weakness.....he acts

All his talk about NATO or Nazis were smoke screens and false justification. He has lusted after Ukraine and especially Kyiv since he took power. He saw weakness and division so he acted. Just he as did with S Setia in Georgia, or the Moldavia, or Crimea. He sees weakness.....he acts

Wonder if he sees this?

Multiple reports stated that Russian troops dropped their weapons and fled during last week's offensive. Ukrainian troops advanced more than 30 miles in the first 3 days alone, liberating roughly 1,150 square miles as of Sunday.​
"They came into our houses to take clothes so the drones wouldn't see them in uniforms," local resident Olena Matvienko told The Washington Post. "They took our bicycles. Two of them pointed guns at my ex-husband until he handed them his car keys."​
 

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The Russian army seems to be in a hurry to beat the Winter rush to get home. Even Russian TV has reported on the retreat of their troops.
Ukraine may even end up retaking territory lost decades ago - Crimea.
 

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Putin would have invaded Ukraine quicker if Trump had been CIC since Donnie really liked/worshiped Putin. Trump wanted to make NATO weak, just like Putin.
Speculation of course but to think CIC Biden is a reason for the Putin disaster is foolish.
Yer such a fool. This has been discussed multiple times. Trump kicked Putin around for four years which is why Putin didn’t attack Ukraine while Trump was in office.
 

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Yer such a fool. This has been discussed multiple times. Trump kicked Putin around for four years which is why Putin didn’t attack Ukraine while Trump was in office.

Both Ukraine and our own country would be so much better off today if Dem-Media hadn't sabotaged Trump's presidency, which set the stage for his defeat (by means fair or foul) in November 2020.

But there was Zelensky on CNN yesterday, at a moment of triumph, taking shots at Trump. Zelensky has proven a very good investment for Dem-Media even as his allies enriched Senile Joe's druggie kid.
 

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The Russian Generals have a short life span in the Ukraine invasion. Because their troops can't be trusted the Generals have to be up front and exposed to shelling and snipers.
You're hilarious. You know nothing of Russian history, yet speak like you know wtf is going on. Just like your Donnie nonsense. Try speaking like an adult. The fact that anyone trusts the media in this is fking laughable. But hey, you just know.
 
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The Russian Generals have a short life span in the Ukraine invasion. Because their troops can't be trusted the Generals have to be up front and exposed to shelling and snipers.

After seeing his Generals' continuing plans for Ukraine, Putin has decided to run things himself:

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After seeing his Generals' continuing plans for Ukraine, Putin has decided to run things himself:

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There he was yesterday christening a ferris wheel in Moscow as his army was being humiliated again. The dude may be entering the Land of Unreality.

There are two ways he can go: A) Pull back to the status quo ante, cut his already immense losses, and try to make the best of a terrible defeat.

Or: B) Throw the dice, ratchet things up to a whole different level, and dare Ukraine's Western sponsors to risk an existential crisis which could mean disaster for their privileged lives and worlds.

The thing he can not do is: C) Stand pat, continue to play a losing hand while lobbing occasional missiles into apartment buildings and pretending that everything is going according to plan.

Not surprisingly, indications are that he's sticking with (C). But (C) inevitably must end in either (A) or (B). So why not just cut to the chase.
 

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There he was yesterday christening a ferris wheel in Moscow as his army was being humiliated again. The dude may be entering the Land of Unreality.

There are two ways he can go: A) Pull back to the status quo ante, cut his already immense losses, and try to make the best of a terrible defeat.

Or: B) Throw the dice, ratchet things up to a whole different level, and dare Ukraine's Western sponsors to risk an existential crisis which could mean disaster for their privileged lives and worlds.

The thing he can not do is: C) Stand pat, continue to play a losing hand while lobbing occasional missiles into apartment buildings and pretending that everything is going according to plan.

Not surprisingly, indications are that he's sticking with (C). But (C) inevitably must end in either (A) or (B). So why not just cut to the chase.
A, B, and C are his basic choices. But D is more and more likely at this point. And D is his removal from office by some method....death, arrest, exile, resignation. And the longer he sticks with C, which seems to be his decision for now, the more likely D becomes.
 

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There he was yesterday christening a ferris wheel in Moscow as his army was being humiliated again. The dude may be entering the Land of Unreality.

There are two ways he can go: A) Pull back to the status quo ante, cut his already immense losses, and try to make the best of a terrible defeat.

Or: B) Throw the dice, ratchet things up to a whole different level, and dare Ukraine's Western sponsors to risk an existential crisis which could mean disaster for their privileged lives and worlds.

The thing he can not do is: C) Stand pat, continue to play a losing hand while lobbing occasional missiles into apartment buildings and pretending that everything is going according to plan.

Not surprisingly, indications are that he's sticking with (C). But (C) inevitably must end in either (A) or (B). So why not just cut to the chase.

What is the motivation for the Russian troops?
 

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A, B, and C are his basic choices. But D is more and more likely at this point. And D is his removal from office by some method....death, arrest, exile, resignation. And the longer he sticks with C, which seems to be his decision for now, the more likely D becomes.

Option F. Putin declares that all the goals of the special military operation have been accomplished and he pulls all the troops out. Another glorious victory for mother Russia!