The Problem with Renewable Energy....

Steve G

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The United States electricity sector reached an important milestone in April, when wind and solar energy accounted for 20% of electricity generation for the first time in history, according to the London-based global energy think tank Ember.

For 2021 as a whole, wind and solar created 14% of U.S. electricity, up from just 6% in 2015.

Still, renewables are growing and will continue to do so; the only question is by how much. On March 29, wind was the second-largest source of electricity in the U.S. in a 24-hour period for the first time. And on April 3, California set a record when its power grid briefly ran on 97% renewable energy.
 

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The United States electricity sector reached an important milestone in April, when wind and solar energy accounted for 20% of electricity generation for the first time in history, according to the London-based global energy think tank Ember.

For 2021 as a whole, wind and solar created 14% of U.S. electricity, up from just 6% in 2015.

Still, renewables are growing and will continue to do so; the only question is by how much. On March 29, wind was the second-largest source of electricity in the U.S. in a 24-hour period for the first time. And on April 3, California set a record when its power grid briefly ran on 97% renewable energy.
Let me know when this helps bring Californians back. Maybe they could force the homeless to create power.
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The United States electricity sector reached an important milestone in April, when wind and solar energy accounted for 20% of electricity generation for the first time in history, according to the London-based global energy think tank Ember.

For 2021 as a whole, wind and solar created 14% of U.S. electricity, up from just 6% in 2015.

Still, renewables are growing and will continue to do so; the only question is by how much. On March 29, wind was the second-largest source of electricity in the U.S. in a 24-hour period for the first time. And on April 3, California set a record when its power grid briefly ran on 97% renewable energy.

Still waiting for your explanation of how Afghanistan was not involved in 9/11. It's been over a month, Steve. I thought you claimed to be smart?
 
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The United States electricity sector reached an important milestone in April, when wind and solar energy accounted for 20% of electricity generation for the first time in history, according to the London-based global energy think tank Ember.

For 2021 as a whole, wind and solar created 14% of U.S. electricity, up from just 6% in 2015.

Still, renewables are growing and will continue to do so; the only question is by how much. On March 29, wind was the second-largest source of electricity in the U.S. in a 24-hour period for the first time. And on April 3, California set a record when its power grid briefly ran on 97% renewable energy.
This when the Trumptards pretend to care about birds.
 

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The United States electricity sector reached an important milestone in April, when wind and solar energy accounted for 20% of electricity generation for the first time in history, according to the London-based global energy think tank Ember.

For 2021 as a whole, wind and solar created 14% of U.S. electricity, up from just 6% in 2015.

Still, renewables are growing and will continue to do so; the only question is by how much. On March 29, wind was the second-largest source of electricity in the U.S. in a 24-hour period for the first time. And on April 3, California set a record when its power grid briefly ran on 97% renewable energy.

Oh, it's growing alright.....

Liberals..... They just "want" and want it RIGHT NOW......

Electricity Shortage Warnings Grow Across U.S.​


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/electricity-shortage-warnings-grow-across-us/ar-AAX2p1F?li=BBnb7Kz

The risk of electricity shortages is rising throughout the U.S. as traditional power plants are being retired more quickly than they can be replaced by renewable energy and battery storage. Power grids are feeling the strain as the U.S. makes a historic transition from conventional power plants fueled by coal and natural gas to cleaner forms of energy such as wind and solar power, and aging nuclear plants are slated for retirement in many parts of the country.

The challenge is that wind and solar farms—which are among the cheapest forms of power generation—don’t produce electricity at all times and need large batteries to store their output for later use. While a large amount of battery storage is under development, regional grid operators have lately warned that the pace may not be fast enough to offset the closures of traditional power plants that can work around the clock.
 

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The United States electricity sector reached an important milestone in April, when wind and solar energy accounted for 20% of electricity generation for the first time in history, according to the London-based global energy think tank Ember.

For 2021 as a whole, wind and solar created 14% of U.S. electricity, up from just 6% in 2015.

Still, renewables are growing and will continue to do so; the only question is by how much. On March 29, wind was the second-largest source of electricity in the U.S. in a 24-hour period for the first time. And on April 3, California set a record when its power grid briefly ran on 97% renewable energy.
great news!!!
When can I expect my electric bills to go down because right now with the cost of oil and gas going up cost of electricity is following suit.
 
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Still waiting for your explanation of how Afghanistan was not involved in 9/11. It's been over a month, Steve. I thought you claimed to be smart?
Besides American military pilots who were the only people flying in US airspace on 9/12?
 

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is that it keeps growing?! wait.....what......


The United States electricity sector reached an important milestone in April, when wind and solar energy accounted for 20% of electricity generation for the first time in history, according to the London-based global energy think tank Ember.

For 2021 as a whole, wind and solar created 14% of U.S. electricity, up from just 6% in 2015.

Still, renewables are growing and will continue to do so; the only question is by how much. On March 29, wind was the second-largest source of electricity in the U.S. in a 24-hour period for the first time. And on April 3, California set a record when its power grid briefly ran on 97% renewable energy.
Wow! Congratulations! After twenty years of building, with massive investments, and more massive tax incentives, and harassing the hell out of all competitors, forcing coal and nukes to shut down.....your up to 16%! Oh,,,,on a day with perfect conditions.

Fantastic news indeed! Maybe in another twenty it will be up to 25%!
 
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The Dureya Motor wagon Company was founded in 1893. How long from then till the interstate high way system was completed? I mean what is it with you cons and being down on America and American industry and innovation ? How long did it take to electrify the whole country? Oh no we do not have 100% renewable energy in the first 20 years of it being deployed at scale so better not do it. Is it that renewable and green energy some how connotes "liberal"? I mean what exactly is your dislike of it? An energy grid with 20% contribution from 5 different sources is a more robust grid. What is the percent of the grid from nuclear? and how long did that take?
 

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Funny, it was a month of record winds in the mountain west and upper Midwest too. Surely no coincidence
 

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The Dureya Motor wagon Company was founded in 1893. How long from then till the interstate high way system was completed? I mean what is it with you cons and being down on America and American industry and innovation ? How long did it take to electrify the whole country? Oh no we do not have 100% renewable energy in the first 20 years of it being deployed at scale so better not do it. Is it that renewable and green energy some how connotes "liberal"? I mean what exactly is your dislike of it? An energy grid with 20% contribution from 5 different sources is a more robust grid. What is the percent of the grid from nuclear? and how long did that take?
LOL. Wind was first used to generate electricity in 1887. But, we're in the first 20 years of it being deployed? This isn't new technology.
 
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The United States electricity sector reached an important milestone in April, when wind and solar energy accounted for 20% of electricity generation for the first time in history, according to the London-based global energy think tank Ember.

For 2021 as a whole, wind and solar created 14% of U.S. electricity, up from just 6% in 2015.

Still, renewables are growing and will continue to do so; the only question is by how much. On March 29, wind was the second-largest source of electricity in the U.S. in a 24-hour period for the first time. And on April 3, California set a record when its power grid briefly ran on 97% renewable energy.
Of course it's growing with subsidies.
 
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Wow! Congratulations! After twenty years of building, with massive investments, and more massive tax incentives, and harassing the hell out of all competitors, forcing coal and nukes to shut down.....your up to 16%! Oh,,,,on a day with perfect conditions.

Fantastic news indeed! Maybe in another twenty it will be up to 25%!
Coal plants are closing because they are inefficient and expensive.
 

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The Dureya Motor wagon Company was founded in 1893. How long from then till the interstate high way system was completed? I mean what is it with you cons and being down on America and American industry and innovation ? How long did it take to electrify the whole country? Oh no we do not have 100% renewable energy in the first 20 years of it being deployed at scale so better not do it. Is it that renewable and green energy some how connotes "liberal"? I mean what exactly is your dislike of it? An energy grid with 20% contribution from 5 different sources is a more robust grid. What is the percent of the grid from nuclear? and how long did that take?
In twenty years it was 1913. There were over two million autos already on the road with 485,000 built just that year alone. By 1917 there were five million in the road..........Without subsidies.......without government killing horses .....without government building roads........without nutjobs wailing and gnashing their teeth.
 
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You might want to tell China that, Jeff.

 

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The United States electricity sector reached an important milestone in April, when wind and solar energy accounted for 20% of electricity generation for the first time in history, according to the London-based global energy think tank Ember.

For 2021 as a whole, wind and solar created 14% of U.S. electricity, up from just 6% in 2015.

Still, renewables are growing and will continue to do so; the only question is by how much. On March 29, wind was the second-largest source of electricity in the U.S. in a 24-hour period for the first time. And on April 3, California set a record when its power grid briefly ran on 97% renewable energy.

i guess the energy industry isn't tapped into the genius maga Republicans on this board...
 

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Coal gets a different kind of subsidy, paying for disability coverage.

 

junior1

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The Dureya Motor wagon Company was founded in 1893. How long from then till the interstate high way system was completed? I mean what is it with you cons and being down on America and American industry and innovation ? How long did it take to electrify the whole country? Oh no we do not have 100% renewable energy in the first 20 years of it being deployed at scale so better not do it. Is it that renewable and green energy some how connotes "liberal"? I mean what exactly is your dislike of it? An energy grid with 20% contribution from 5 different sources is a more robust grid. What is the percent of the grid from nuclear? and how long did that take?
I don't think you got the point...sure renewable energy is the future. but its not the present. Build out everything you want - wind, solar, hydroelectric, nuclear, and any other technological advancement that will produce energy. But all of those things COMBINED will not produce the energy that is needed today and for the forseeable future. In a growth economy it would be normal to see demand for energy at least remain neutral and likely increase. We will not meet those needs solely by growing renewables at todays deployments. Already we're seeing notifications of potential electricity brownouts for this year for lack of supply. And it is well known how gasoline prices have skyrocketed since Biden's inauguration.
Unfortunately for most of america the solution is lying under our feet but our current leadership is hell bent on letting it stay there. It's a great sound bite to say "we pumped more oil in my first year than trump did in his first year". But no matter how you spin it, we are not pumping as much as we need and we are in the position because of, or at least partially because of, this administration's policy on energy.
 

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Nuclear needs to be the cornerstone of our energy policy. It is more reliable than renewables that depend on the weather, higher capacity than natural gas, and cleaner than dirty coal. It seems like we argue about nonsense in this country. It’s nonsense to pollute the environment with coal. It needs to be forever shelved as a source of energy. It’s nonsense to solely rely on the weather for wind and solar. It’s nonsense to have a source of energy in Hydro that is failing due to again the weather - the drought out west. Natural gas is OK, but it still doesn’t measure up to nuclear. It is time to stop effing around in this country and reemphasize nuclear, which can be done completely safely.
 

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This when the Trumptards pretend to care about birds.
"pretend" is the key word here. You are so used to the Soc/Dem approach to renewables (and just about everything else they propose) that you project that m.o. unto "Trumptards".

As to the Left's energy "plan", where is the leadership on this issue? Other than a few feelz good pronouncements and a lot of virtue signaling and prognostications of impending doom (i.e. all of us burning to a crisp in 7 years)., the Left offers NOTHING of substance. You can only haul Greta "the Spectrum Girl" out so many times to emote about this before the public catches on that you have nothing.

The Leftie energy plan: Just end all carbon fuel based emission and decommission our nukes IMMEDIATELY and magically the renewable industry will fill the void with 100% clean energy AND we'll create MILLIONS of jobs in the process....

Yeah, great plan Lefties, except for a couple of minor details, like all of the pollution caused by producing the "renewables" that quickly wear out and/or underperform and the fact that it would take years and years to replace all the energy lost by totally shutting down carbon based energy use and you have NO PLAN whatsoever to fill the void. NONE!

So which side is PRETENDING about this issue? As Greta would cry out, "How dare they!" LOL
 
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Even Greta understands we don’t have the technological solutions.
all of this build back better…blah…blah…blah.
 

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The Chinese aren’t always right.
Across India, 281 coal plants are operating and beyond the 28 being built another 23 are in pre-construction phases

I guess India doesn't know what it's doing either. FWIW the same for Indonesia, Vietnam, and Japan.
 
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So it took record wind across half the country for renewables to even hit 20%. Brilliant
 

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The United States electricity sector reached an important milestone in April, when wind and solar energy accounted for 20% of electricity generation for the first time in history, according to the London-based global energy think tank Ember.

For 2021 as a whole, wind and solar created 14% of U.S. electricity, up from just 6% in 2015.

Still, renewables are growing and will continue to do so; the only question is by how much. On March 29, wind was the second-largest source of electricity in the U.S. in a 24-hour period for the first time. And on April 3, California set a record when its power grid briefly ran on 97% renewable energy.

EIA:

We expect renewable energy sources, other than hydropower, will provide 138 billion kWh of generation this summer, which represents 12% of total U.S. generation.


 

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