The huge security risks caused by Hillary Clinton's email felonies. Facts pertaining to her insecure account and usage of it in foreign countries.

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Here is James Comey's summary of the callousness and contempt for her office and the people who risked their lives working in intelligence related activities and the huge security holes that were contained in her email system:

"With respect to potential computer intrusion by hostile actors, we did not find direct evidence that Secretary Clinton’s personal e-mail domain, [as noted earlier in this statement, her personal email, not even up to the level of something like gmail] in its various configurations since 2009, was successfully hacked. But, given the nature of the system and of the actors potentially involved, we assess that we would be unlikely to see such direct evidence. [Almost certainly alluding to the fact that anyone hacking account wouldn't announce it] We do assess that hostile actors gained access to the private commercial e-mail accounts of people with whom Secretary Clinton was in regular contact from her personal account. We also assess that Secretary Clinton’s use of a personal e-mail domain was both known by a large number of people and readily apparent. She also used her personal e-mail extensively while outside the United States, including sending and receiving work-related e-mails in the territory of sophisticated adversaries. Given that combination of factors, we assess it is possible [more accurately highly probable] that hostile actors gained access to Secretary Clinton’s personal e-mail account. https://www.fbi.gov/news/press-rele...-clinton2019s-use-of-a-personal-e-mail-system

Obviously, what Clinton did was far more culpable and dangerous to the security of the US than what Trump did by keeping pieces of paper at his secure Florida home.
 
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Here is James Comey's summary of the callousness and contempt for her office and the people who risked their lives working in intelligence related activities and the huge security holes that were contained in her email system:

"With respect to potential computer intrusion by hostile actors, we did not find direct evidence that Secretary Clinton’s personal e-mail domain, [as noted earlier in this statement, her personal email, not even up to the level of something like gmail] in its various configurations since 2009, was successfully hacked. But, given the nature of the system and of the actors potentially involved, we assess that we would be unlikely to see such direct evidence. [Almost certainly alluding to the fact that anyone hacking account wouldn't announce it] We do assess that hostile actors gained access to the private commercial e-mail accounts of people with whom Secretary Clinton was in regular contact from her personal account. We also assess that Secretary Clinton’s use of a personal e-mail domain was both known by a large number of people and readily apparent. She also used her personal e-mail extensively while outside the United States, including sending and receiving work-related e-mails in the territory of sophisticated adversaries. Given that combination of factors, we assess it is possible [more accurately highly probable] that hostile actors gained access to Secretary Clinton’s personal e-mail account. https://www.fbi.gov/news/press-rele...-clinton2019s-use-of-a-personal-e-mail-system

Obviously, what Clinton did was far more culpable and dangerous to the security of the US than what Trump did by keeping pieces of paper at his secure Florida home.
I’ve posted this clip numerous times but it bears repeating. The info on her unsecured private server was so sensitive even the ODNI inspector general investigators didn’t have enough clearance to see them at first. IOW it was SCI/SAP level info. Trump having paper documents (that he declassified) sitting in a locked room of the basement of a bulding secured by secret service isn’t even remotely comparable.


A good summary of the sever scandal:

Yes, the fbi losers had SO MUCH ZEAL even though there was:
-No GJ
-No subpoenas
-No interview transcripts
-No recorded testimony
-No testimony under oath

Missing evidence:
-Apple server
-laptop
-thumb drive
-SIM and SD cards
-13 mobile devices
-2 iPads
-erased files on 2 laptops
-erased files on server backups

It's almost as if they wanted to give the appearance of an investigation without actually doing one...i.e. a cover up.
 
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One distinction - what Hillary had was susceptible to foreign governments and we will never know what, if anything, was compromised. What Trump had was in boxes securely locked in his house.....NOT on the internet and available for hacking, etc.
 

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One distinction - what Hillary had was susceptible to foreign governments and we will never know what, if anything, was compromised. What Trump had was in boxes securely locked in his house.....NOT on the internet and available for hacking, etc.
Wonder if he gave that Russian babe he played golf with a tour of his (supposedly locked) basement. Wouldn't be at all surprised if he tried to grab a little something while down in said basement.
 

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It's OK. She's Hillary Clinton.
And who is to blame for that? Consider that the Trump DOJ and the Trump State Department inspector General could not bring themselves to seek a prosecution. So who do you blame?
 

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And who is to blame for that? Consider that the Trump DOJ and the Trump State Department inspector General could not bring themselves to seek a prosecution. So who do you blame?
I don’t think anyone, including Trump, wanted to prosecute Hillary due to the political temperature. She had lost and the wounds were deep in the country. Hillary‘s missteps struck myself and many others as disqualifying for office, but had no stomach for prosecuting her. It would have been purely political.

The above could be applied to Trump. The DOJ and FBI appear to be acting for political reasons. That is horrifying. If Trump did something disqualifying that would make it different. At the moment the evidence is that there is an argument over documents which may or may not have been properly handled. Nothing more. Most arguments of how it could be more serious would be more appropriate on an Alex Jones broadcast.
 

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I don’t think anyone, including Trump, wanted to prosecute Hillary due to the political temperature. She had lost and the wounds were deep in the country. Hillary‘s missteps struck myself and many others as disqualifying for office, but had no stomach for prosecuting her. It would have been purely political.

The above could be applied to Trump. The DOJ and FBI appear to be acting for political reasons. That is horrifying. If Trump did something disqualifying that would make it different. At the moment the evidence is that there is an argument over documents which may or may not have been properly handled. Nothing more. Most arguments of how it could be more serious would be more appropriate on an Alex Jones broadcast.
This is very plausible. However I would maintain there is a different dynamic between Hillary and Trump in the aftermath of their losses. HIllary flew off to Chappaqua and is nowhere near the political force Trump has remained. And consider that when one chooses to continue to play in politics the slings and arrows will come. I'm guessing if Trump decided to do nothing but golf and write a memoir there would be less attention paid to this. But he is all but announcing to run and so fitness, lawlessness and personal choices take on a whole new meaning for him.
 

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This is very plausible. However I would maintain there is a different dynamic between Hillary and Trump in the aftermath of their losses. HIllary flew off to Chappaqua and is nowhere near the political force Trump has remained. And consider that when one chooses to continue to play in politics the slings and arrows will come. I'm guessing if Trump decided to do nothing but golf and write a memoir there would be less attention paid to this. But he is all but announcing to run and so fitness, lawlessness and personal choices take on a whole new meaning for him.
Presidents are allowed to take documents with them when they leave. There have already been court precedents set via clinton.

If there was any meat to the affidavit you know damn well it would’ve been leaked by now after dc leaked like a Sieve for years to hurt Trump.
 

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And who is to blame for that? Consider that the Trump DOJ and the Trump State Department inspector General could not bring themselves to seek a prosecution. So who do you blame?

Thanks for pointing out that the Trump DOJ and IG were not spiteful and vindictive about Hillary's breach.

Biden's DOJ and IG are fearful democracy will allow Trump 2024.
 
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Do you have pics? I'd like to see pics of this babe.
trump-scammer-191.jpg
 

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Here is James Comey's summary of the callousness and contempt for her office and the people who risked their lives working in intelligence related activities and the huge security holes that were contained in her email system:

"With respect to potential computer intrusion by hostile actors, we did not find direct evidence that Secretary Clinton’s personal e-mail domain, [as noted earlier in this statement, her personal email, not even up to the level of something like gmail] in its various configurations since 2009, was successfully hacked. But, given the nature of the system and of the actors potentially involved, we assess that we would be unlikely to see such direct evidence. [Almost certainly alluding to the fact that anyone hacking account wouldn't announce it] We do assess that hostile actors gained access to the private commercial e-mail accounts of people with whom Secretary Clinton was in regular contact from her personal account. We also assess that Secretary Clinton’s use of a personal e-mail domain was both known by a large number of people and readily apparent. She also used her personal e-mail extensively while outside the United States, including sending and receiving work-related e-mails in the territory of sophisticated adversaries. Given that combination of factors, we assess it is possible [more accurately highly probable] that hostile actors gained access to Secretary Clinton’s personal e-mail account. https://www.fbi.gov/news/press-rele...-clinton2019s-use-of-a-personal-e-mail-system

Obviously, what Clinton did was far more culpable and dangerous to the security of the US than what Trump did by keeping pieces of paper at his secure Florida home.
Hildebeast got this guy in Iran killed. A nuclear scientist that had been helping the US.



The release of Clinton’s emails last year by the State Department appeared to have been damning for Amiri. A number of emails sent to the then secretary of state appeared to support claims that he was a defector. “Our friend has to be given a way out. We should recognise his concerns and frame it in terms of a misunderstanding with no malevolent intent and that we will make sure there is no recurrence. Our person won’t be able to do anything anyway. If he has to leave, so be it,” wrote one senior official to Clinton, according to CNN.

“Following the reported revelations in the Clinton emails, Amiri was executed for spying,” said Dina Esfandiary, MacArthur fellow at the centre for science and security studies at King’s College London. “In the Iranian judiciary’s mind, it’s a necessary signal to the US that Iran is aware of their activities in Iran and that this is what is done to those who help the enemy. It’s a textbook spying case.”
 
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Thanks for pointing out that the Trump DOJ and IG were not spiteful and vindictive about Hillary's breach.

Biden's DOJ and IG are fearful democracy will allow Trump 2024.
I would further point out that the lack of prosecution was not for lack of trying. The FBI investigated. Comey was shocked at the zeal exhibited by some in the FBI to get Clinton and said so. However the FBI couldn't make the case and decided not to prosecute. Then the IG for DOJ looked at the FBI's investigation and while critical of the FBI with certain matters the IG found that the decision to not prosecute was apolitical. Trump went nuts and eventually ordered Jeff Sessions to reopen the investigation, which Sessions did by sending a letter to subordinates indicating that he wanted a fresh look. It went nowhere.

Trump was extremely spiteful and wanted her prosecuted. His own FBI and DOJ could not get what they needed to proceed. It remains to be seen what evidence will be obtained in the current investigation.
 

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I would further point out that the lack of prosecution was not for lack of trying. The FBI investigated. Comey was shocked at the zeal exhibited by some in the FBI to get Clinton and said so. However the FBI couldn't make the case and decided not to prosecute. Then the IG for DOJ looked at the FBI's investigation and while critical of the FBI with certain matters the IG found that the decision to not prosecute was apolitical. Trump went nuts and eventually ordered Jeff Sessions to reopen the investigation, which Sessions did by sending a letter to subordinates indicating that he wanted a fresh look. It went nowhere.

Trump was extremely spiteful and wanted her prosecuted. His own FBI and DOJ could not get what they needed to proceed. It remains to be seen what evidence will be obtained in the current investigation.

Hillary was done. Trump isn't. That's why Biden's DOJ and IG are going after him. It's all about Trump 2024 even if it degrades the institutions of the USA. They don't care. They really ought to learn. I mean look at the legacy of Harry Reid going nuclear.
 

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I would further point out that the lack of prosecution was not for lack of trying. The FBI investigated. Comey was shocked at the zeal exhibited by some in the FBI to get Clinton and said so. However the FBI couldn't make the case and decided not to prosecute. Then the IG for DOJ looked at the FBI's investigation and while critical of the FBI with certain matters the IG found that the decision to not prosecute was apolitical. Trump went nuts and eventually ordered Jeff Sessions to reopen the investigation, which Sessions did by sending a letter to subordinates indicating that he wanted a fresh look. It went nowhere.

Trump was extremely spiteful and wanted her prosecuted. His own FBI and DOJ could not get what they needed to proceed. It remains to be seen what evidence will be obtained in the current investigation.
Yes, the fbi losers had SO MUCH ZEAL even though there was:
-No GJ
-No subpoenas
-No interview transcripts
-No recorded testimony
-No testimony under oath

Missing evidence:
-Apple server
-laptop
-thumb drive
-SIM and SD cards
-13 mobile devices
-2 iPads
-erased files on 2 laptops
-erased files on server backups

Geez it's almost as if they were trying to cover something up and just give the appearance of an investigation...take your head out of your ass.

 

jferretti

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Yes, the fbi losers had SO MUCH ZEAL even though there was:
-No GJ
-No subpoenas
-No interview transcripts
-No recorded testimony
-No testimony under oath

Missing evidence:
-Apple server
-laptop
-thumb drive
-SIM and SD cards
-13 mobile devices
-2 iPads
-erased files on 2 laptops
-erased files on server backups

Geez it's almost as if they were trying to cover something up and just give the appearance of an investigation...take your head out of your ass.

FBI under Trump, crooks. DOJ under Trump, crooks. JEff Sessions, Crooks. Inspector General for DOJ, crooked. You know, sometimes things don't go your way because of reasons other than your outlandish conspiracies. You have no problem assigning faulty motives to a whole swath of the former President's people. How could he be so wrong about so many?
 

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Hillary was done. Trump isn't. That's why Biden's DOJ and IG are going after him. It's all about Trump 2024 even if it degrades the institutions of the USA. They don't care. They really ought to learn. I mean look at the legacy of Harry Reid going nuclear.
Trump will never be President again. 65% of this country understands that.
 

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FBI under Trump, crooks. DOJ under Trump, crooks. JEff Sessions, Crooks. Inspector General for DOJ, crooked. You know, sometimes things don't go your way because of reasons other than your outlandish conspiracies. You have no problem assigning faulty motives to a whole swath of the former President's people. How could he be so wrong about so many?
I was told there was ZEAL...where's the zeal?? It's not a conspiracy that comey's fbi did a JOKE of an investigation re: clinton. After reading the list of things they didn't do how can you actually think they did a legit investigation? Look at how they treated that investigation vs. how they treated Trump.

In case you didn't notice the swamp is very deep and it has no sides. There's a uniparty that has been running our country for decades. Decades of corruption don't get replaced overnight. As I said Trump was limited to only nominating people he knew fellow swamp rats would confirm. They won't confirm someone unless it's one of their own, it's how they maintain control for so long and acts like a firewall against an outsider like Trump.
 

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This is very plausible. However I would maintain there is a different dynamic between Hillary and Trump in the aftermath of their losses. HIllary flew off to Chappaqua and is nowhere near the political force Trump has remained. And consider that when one chooses to continue to play in politics the slings and arrows will come. I'm guessing if Trump decided to do nothing but golf and write a memoir there would be less attention paid to this. But he is all but announcing to run and so fitness, lawlessness and personal choices take on a whole new meaning for him.
You can always find some differences in comparisons. Is the main difference that Hillary was considered toast while Trump maintained a lot of support? Hillary didn't just fly off. She made several attempts to be relevant like her recent TV series which is crashing. She called Trump illegitimate any time she was given a microphone. She is not relevant, Trump is. I guess that is your touchstone.
 

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I would further point out that the lack of prosecution was not for lack of trying. The FBI investigated. Comey was shocked at the zeal exhibited by some in the FBI to get Clinton and said so. However the FBI couldn't make the case and decided not to prosecute. Then the IG for DOJ looked at the FBI's investigation and while critical of the FBI with certain matters the IG found that the decision to not prosecute was apolitical. Trump went nuts and eventually ordered Jeff Sessions to reopen the investigation, which Sessions did by sending a letter to subordinates indicating that he wanted a fresh look. It went nowhere.

Trump was extremely spiteful and wanted her prosecuted. His own FBI and DOJ could not get what they needed to proceed. It remains to be seen what evidence will be obtained in the current investigation.
Someone needs to break this news to Dr. Conspiracy Guy. But gently. He's likely to have another nervous breakdown.