Texas and Florida Hit Another Daily Record

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  1. razpsu

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    He let 38000 die. How could he do worse? Omg. He did better later? Compared to what?

    20 times more people died compared to Texas and Florida with far less of a population. Dear lord.

    New Jersey is a close second.

    Still not letting restaurants open dine in. If they wait until the fall then it will be far worse. Oh wait this is about the election and not the people. Stalin did the same thing!!!
     
  2. Jason1743

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    I the death rate just “creeps” up that would be considered a “victory.”
     
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    Early on very few knew or even believed the extent of the problem. There was chaos and mistakes.
    NY and NJ were the canaries in the coal mine. Shame on the those who didn’t learn from their experience. We know a lot more today, it’s criminally negligent not use our current knowledge.
    We don’t want to quarantine the country again, but we need masks and we do not need crowded indoor bars and restaurants, movies, plays, concerts or political rallies.
    Forget about unacceptable BLM looting and rioting. If Trump and congress address the BLM problem in a significant way those demonstrations might dissipate.
     
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    Florida’s percentage of positive Covid-19 tests jumped in the latest report Tuesday, undermining Governor Ron DeSantis’s claim that the crisis isn’t getting worse.

    The rate of people testing positive for the first time climbed to 16.3% for Monday, from 15% the day before. It’s now at the highest on record, according to data compiled by Bloomberg, which dates to early April.

    DeSantis said Monday that reporters are too focused on case numbers, but the positivity rate “has been pretty consistent.” Indeed, it had appeared to peak in the past two weeks around 16%, but is now rising again.

    Florida reported 213,794 Covid-19 cases Tuesday, which includes data through Monday. That’s up 3.6% from a day earlier, compared with an average increase of 5% in the previous seven days. The start of the week has tended to have lower case numbers as lab results are processed slowly over weekends. Seen on a rolling seven-day basis, Florida’s new cases reached a high of 61,360.

    The Tuesday report included another red flag. DeSantis has used the relatively low median age of infections to downplay the recent surge in Covid-19 cases. But that rose to 40 in the latest data, up from 38 a day earlier and the highest since the state started including the statistic in its daily reports in early June.

    DeSantis had used the median age to imply that mostly younger people are getting sick and that the clinical consequences would be muted.

    Deaths among Florida residents, which can lag the onset of symptoms by weeks, reached 3,841, an increase of 1.7%.

    Cumulative hospitalizations rose by 2.4% to 16,425. The daily increase of 380 was the most on record.​
     
  6. interrobang

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    4 days of holiday lag will warp all numbers
     
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    The curve is flattened, just like you head.
     
  8. bdgan

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    No, but it's reasonable to compare us to countries like UK, Sweden. France, Italy, Spain, Belgium, and Germany.
     
  9. 91Joe95

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    Your non sequitur aside, I went back and looked again at the numbers and the claim in your post that the virus doesn't recognize party lines. Yep, its a virus that seems to target blue states worse than red states. Way worse. Perhaps I am misreading your posts and implied intents. Is your assertion that Trump should remove the mass murdering Democratic Governors and replace them with competent Republicans who actually care about the people?
     
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    Pushing, or is it reporting the numbers, facts ?
     
  11. 91Joe95

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    This post is priceless. Show me one health expert who ever claimed sending sick people to be around the elderly was ever a good idea. By your very definition Democratic Governors have been criminally negligent. That doesn't even begin to address public relations or rioting that Democrats encouraged.
     
  12. Jason1743

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    Re look at the numbers. The red states are catching up fast. Arizona, Texas and Florida have some of the most explosive infection growth in the entire world.
    No question Cuomo screwed up. It is unclear to me, I am not certain, but I believe it was RECOVERING COVID patients that were sent to the nursing homes. Cuomo claims he took guidance for this action from the federal government. I am not defending Cuomo. If Cuomo screwed up , does that make it okay for other Governors with more information to screw up?
     
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    What? Who will drive the clown car?
     
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    Better check those positivity and hospitalization rates. In some states the numbers are getting scary.
     
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    It's easy Jason. You just have to like: 1.liberate Virginia and Michigan, 2)open up businesses, 3) open up schools, 4) attend mass gatherings and don't worry about a mask, 5) contradict your virus task force and health experts, all accepted without asking what is the PLAN to do anything of these things. Long on cheerleading and short on specifics, planning and fact-based proposals. It is the era of low expectations for POTUS. He tells it like it is but we get nothing but talk. The man has neither the aptitude nor the inclination to learn. It's how so many can accept him not knowing or caring about our soldiers with bounties on their heads. Low expectations are granted in return for a Mitch McConnell tax cut and Sup. Ct judges selected by the Heritage Foundation. Quite a bargain for those who did not have high hopes for effective leadership.
     
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    Creepy Joe will drive the clown car in 2020, and Pocahontas will drive the clown car in 2024 I think. But it might be AOC driving in 2024.
     
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    Nobody is doing what Cuomo did, and he sent more than just recovering patients. Same with the other Democratic Governors. Other states are still an order of magnitude smaller. They are not close to catching NY, nor can they. NY just led the country in fatalities again the other day.
     
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    President Biden and VP Susan Rice are inheriting a shit show.
     
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    Isn't that due testing more, lol?
     
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    Texans are not happy with the U.S. COVID-19 response.
    Majority of Texans Think Coronavirus Response Is Going Badly, Poll Shows


    “As infections of the novel coronavirus surge across North Texas and around the state, a majority of Texans now say efforts to control the spread of the virus are going badly, according to a poll released this week.

    The poll, conducted by the Texas Politics Project at the University of Texas at Austin, showed that 51% of Texans think efforts in the U.S. to deal with the spread of COVID-19 are going badly, a sharp uptick from the 29% who said the same in April.”

    https://www.dallasobserver.com/news/texas-coronavirus-greg-abbott-poll-11924346

    And the Texas state budget is bleeding red because revenues are plunging.

    “Texas sees sharp decline in tax revenue as coronavirus surge unleashes more budget uncertainty”
    “The stakes have been on display in Texas, which witnessed a $650 million drop in tax revenue collected in June, according to data released Wednesday by state budget officials, which includes sales mostly made in May. Texas leaders attributed the decline to consumers shelling out less for cars, gasoline, alcohol and other goods, as well as precipitous drops in travel and tourism, compared with the same period a year earlier.”
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/07/07/texas-taxes-budget-coronavirus/
     
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    Before the NYC outbreak, the data was available to understand the extent and severity - and the severity to elderly.

    If the governor or mayor didn't know, that was on them. I knew.
     
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    What are they worried about?

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    7/10/2020

    AUSTIN — As Texas on Thursday set single-day records for deaths from coronavirus and how many people the disease has put in the hospital, Gov. Greg Abbott was bracing for even more bad news.

    “The numbers are going to look worse as we go into next week,” he told KRIV-TV in Houston late Thursday.

    In another record Thursday, over the past seven days, 15.6% of reported coronavirus tests have come back positive.​
     
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    While 33 states saw an increase in new cases compared to last week, Miami-Dade County in South Florida is witnessing a staggering 33.5% positivity rate, or percentage of people tested who test positive for the coronavirus. It is tracked daily by the county.

    Over the past 13 days, hospitalizations in Miami-Dade County have gone up by 76%, the number of ICU beds being used has increased by 86% and the use of ventilators has soared by 124%, according to the latest data from the county government.
     
  25. LafayetteBear

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    "Slow down the testing!"

    Gawd, why didn't other leaders think of that?! Brilliant!

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    How about Arizona? I have heard their death rate surpassed New York's for at least a few days. What do you think accounts for the disparity between Texas and Arizona?
     
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    I'm really surprised you can think of anything but being a bigot.
     
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    So Trump did not say that we should slow down the testing?
     
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    He says so much stupid sh!t, they literally ignore him.
     
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    Could be explained via death certificate matching, which is often delayed, and frankly is open to some subjective interpretation of cause of death if no confirmatory swabbing was done. It can make it appear as a death toll jumped in a particular day or days when there’s a data dump, but the deaths could have been from weeks ago. I suspect deaths will trend up in next 10 days but you won’t see catastrophic numbers like NYC. Ducey is smart enough not to push Covid into nursing homes, I hope.

    If you read the Vox hit piece, they stated about 18% of Arizona hospital beds are Covid, that’s not too bad. In NYC, we were above 70% for much of early April. ICUs around the country usually operate near 90% capacity on a normal day, I’m not worried about capacity issues until they are using overflow ICUs and requesting personnel assistance from afar. Thus far, there’s been none of that in the private emergency medicine or critical care groups on social media.

     
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    If you read the Vox hit piece, they stated about 18% of Arizona hospital beds are Covid, that’s not too bad.

    You don't see a problem with the currently hospitalized trend shown below?


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    Arizona's covid hospitalizations have been stable the last few days. They're discharging people at a record rate, too, over 500 per day.
     
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    "The state's hospitals are EMPTIER than they were three weeks ago. ICU units are about 5% more full."

    I am having difficulty squaring this statement with the chart Rumble attached, particularly the "Currently Hospitalized" section of that chart. It shows a significant spike in Covid-19 cases and hospitalizations. Unless the vast majority of the people who have recently being diagnosed with Covid-19 have elected to forego hospitalization, or hospitals have been emptied of patients who were staying there for non Covid-19 related treatment, the chart and the quoted statement seem virtually impossible to reconcile.
     
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    On 6/16, Arizona hospital beds were 85% full. On July 6 when he posted that, they were 82% full.
     
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    ?? When who posted what? Both the chart Rumble posted and the Tweet that Crazy posted appear to show data from early July.
     
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    Get the militia boys together. Knox and Squirrel
     
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    You don't know shit about anything do you? I don't live in Michigan and masks are required in my business, You don't need them in your basement though
     
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    You never answered my question. They have trended from 700 hospitalized patients for covid in May to just under 3,500 now. Do you think this trend can continue without causing any problems?
     
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    Things are moving fast.

    https://www.azcentral.com/story/new...-and-hospital-metrics-remain-high/5409783002/

    ICU beds and ventilators in use by suspected and confirmed COVID-19 patients both hit new records on Thursday, according to hospital data reported to the state. Emergency room visits and inpatient beds in use dropped slightly but hovered close to record high numbers from earlier this week.

    Friday's dashboard shows 88% of current inpatient beds and 89% of ICU beds were in use, which includes people being treated for COVID-19 and other patients. Most people who get the disease are not hospitalized.

    During the past three weeks, cases increased by 150% and tests increased by just 71%. Of known test results from last week, 21% have come back positive.​
     

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