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Tennessee and Greg Schiano

seems like Schiano has a case against not just UT but also the hillbilly politicians who publicly railed against him.

Does a public denial of any knowledge of Sandusky accusations do him any service in encouraging other schools to consider him?
 
seems like Schiano has a case against not just UT but also the hillbilly politicians who publicly railed against him.

Does a public denial of any knowledge of Sandusky accusations do him any service in encouraging other schools to consider him?
Maybe he'd be better served to list all of the inconsistencies in MM's stories over the years.
 
According to the "court documents" Moses brought down from Mt. Sinai, Mike testified Bradley told him this in either "2005 or 2006, or thereabouts." So it's narrowed down to a year the Chicago Cubs didn't win the World Series.
Do you have a link to the transcripts from Mike's testimony?
 
There's are several; legal issues to unpack with respect to this situation. Since Schiano's employment contract apparently has a term that exceeds one year, it is probably subject to the State of Tennessee's "statute of frauds," which is a law that requires certain kinds of contracts (including contracts that are for a period in excess of one year) to be in writing and signed "by the party to be charged" in order to be enforceable. The party to be charged is the authorized signatory for UT. Query whether that must be the Chancellor, or whether it could be the Athletic Director alone. In any case, verbal assurances or commitments would probably be unenforceable due to the statute of frauds.

Schiano would presumably assert, at minimum, legal claims for breach of contract (his employment contract), and defamation of character. The latter claim would not depend on the existence of an enforceable contract. The statement that Currie came out with, about having done considerable due diligence and finding no issues whatsoever with Schiano's character or background, was clearly intended to rebut any inference that UT defamed Schiano. But they still did not hire him, and arguably did so because of his history at PSU. That may present some difficult issues of proof for Schiano.

So - if I understand this correctly - because McQueary used a coach's name who had been gone from the PSU program since 1995, in a story he concocted in order to get himself out of the shits he got himself into after 2011, as McQueary likely thought this would never boomerang back on him - YET IT DID - McQueary has now cost yet another institution and another coach reputational & financial damage & created a PR mess for UT and their program.

Slow golf clap for McQueary.

I would like to see McQueary explain why it was okay to throw Coach Schiano under the bus, on a national sports radio talk show like this Dan Patrick guy, and why this maneuver of his would've helped ANY chance McQueary would EVER have to coach anywhere EVER again.

I would now assume McQueary has made himself persona non grata in this industry at any level here in the US. That's on Mike. No amount of handwaving is going to change that. He can't blame Tim & Gary.
 
You're living in the wrong century. Don't know how old you are, but it's clear social media isn't your strong suit. Nobody should have to prove to you that an account is fake when it's blatantly obvious. Maybe go watch Catfish or something.

BTW, let it go. This lady isn't the story here. Not everything is about politics and attacking your opposition.
First you want to tell me how to analyze it, then you want to tell me to let it go. But maybe that is related to your inability to simply and clearly explain why it is that SHE did not write this or approve it's being released under her name. The site claimed 51,000+ followers. When facebook scours for fake pages all day every day, how did they miss this one with 51000 followers? Lol.

So, glib explanation without any actual facts except "it's obvious." Then an attack on the person whose questions you cannot answer. I've seen these tactics before. So has SHS. LOL.
 
seems like Schiano has a case against not just UT but also the hillbilly politicians who publicly railed against him.

Does a public denial of any knowledge of Sandusky accusations do him any service in encouraging other schools to consider him?

UT it Texas.
 
On page 4 of this thread he opined:

If schiano reported the incident he walked in on even just to joe the ‘01 or I guess it is now the ‘00 incident probably never happens.

Hilarious that schiano gets a free pass only because him lying supposedly helped joe.

No matter what the 15 or so lunatics here will always think Jerry is innocent just so they can feel better about joe

Then he and francofan exchanged pleasantries followed by PeetzPoolBoy sending his unconditional love to towny87.1.

I'll post this story again...

I knew a girl in HS who out of the blue she gave birth to a slightly premature baby. Everyone was shocked, she was very skinny... how could she be pregnant and you couldn't tell? She claimed she didn't know she was pregnant. To this day, about 20 years later, her family still thinks she had no idea she was pregnant. Truth be told, she admitted to me about 15 years ago that "of course she knew she was pregnant". She lied to her family to save face with them, and the family was more than willing to buy into her lie because it was better than the alternative.

The moral of the story is, the family sometimes is in the worst position to know the truth.
 
First you want to tell me how to analyze it, then you want to tell me to let it go. But maybe that is related to your inability to simply and clearly explain why it is that SHE did not write this or approve it's being released under her name. The site claimed 51,000+ followers. When facebook scours for fake pages all day every day, how did they miss this one with 51000 followers? Lol.

So, glib explanation without any actual facts except "it's obvious." Then an attack on the person whose questions you cannot answer. I've seen these tactics before. So has SHS. LOL.

You seem to be on a witch hunt. I’ve seen these tactics before...
 
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You seem to be on a witch hunt. I’ve seen these tactics before...
Just want answers. Answers other than "obviously" and "let it go." I know the temptation when there are no answers is to attack the guy asking the questions, so I could not care less what you call it.

There may be perfectly good answers that make it just as you say. I want to hear them. You "obviously" do not have any answers.
 
There's are several; legal issues to unpack with respect to this situation. Since Schiano's employment contract apparently has a term that exceeds one year, it is probably subject to the State of Tennessee's "statute of frauds," which is a law that requires certain kinds of contracts (including contracts that are for a period in excess of one year) to be in writing and signed "by the party to be charged" in order to be enforceable. The party to be charged is the authorized signatory for UT. Query whether that must be the Chancellor, or whether it could be the Athletic Director alone. In any case, verbal assurances or commitments would probably be unenforceable due to the statute of frauds.

Schiano would presumably assert, at minimum, legal claims for breach of contract (his employment contract), and defamation of character. The latter claim would not depend on the existence of an enforceable contract. The statement that Currie came out with, about having done considerable due diligence and finding no issues whatsoever with Schiano's character or background, was clearly intended to rebut any inference that UT defamed Schiano. But they still did not hire him, and arguably did so because of his history at PSU. That may present some difficult issues of proof for Schiano.

Does the statute also take into account the value of the contract? Some organizations (public or private) have stipulations as to whom can sign a contract (or agreement) based in part on the value of the agreement.
 
Just want answers. Answers other than "obviously" and "let it go." I know the temptation when there are no answers is to attack the guy asking the questions, so I could not care less what you call it.

There may be perfectly good answers that make it just as you say. I want to hear them. You "obviously" do not have any answers.

Answers have been given and are reasonable. It was a fake account. They exist everywhere and are routinely taken down when discovered. You just don’t like that answer so your continue to ignore it. Witch hunt.
 
I don't care. You're a shill. Period. People like you are exactly what is wrong with this country. You go hard political no matter what. You don't even care about the topic here, just that your opponent allegedly commented on it. It's pathetic and why you would never be an acceptable trustee.

mlvnsmly, your new here. Give it a rest.
 
Investigator Randy Feathers came to Schiano's rescue:

“He (Schiano) said he never witnessed anything, never heard anything,” Feathers said. “He was very cooperative. He took plenty of time with us. We didn’t have any evidence that he actually saw anything.”

Feathers called Schiano’s mention in testimony, a “hearsay situation on McQueary’s part,” and added, “Bradley denied what McQueary said.”
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“I didn’t think it was fair,” Feathers said. “I don’t think you can point your finger at everyone at Penn State in that era and say they knew something. You have to investigate these things.”​
 
Investigator Randy Feathers came to Schiano's rescue:

“He (Schiano) said he never witnessed anything, never heard anything,” Feathers said. “He was very cooperative. He took plenty of time with us. We didn’t have any evidence that he actually saw anything.”

Feathers called Schiano’s mention in testimony, a “hearsay situation on McQueary’s part,” and added, “Bradley denied what McQueary said.”
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“I didn’t think it was fair,” Feathers said. “I don’t think you can point your finger at everyone at Penn State in that era and say they knew something. You have to investigate these things.”​

That's almost like throwing a cement block to a drowning man. Randy Feathers? Porngate?
 
Ha! True...but at least he did more than the collective administration at PSU to quell the latest JS uprising.

Honestly, I believe the guy. One has nothing to do with the other. But in this world..........
 
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Wow a message board threat. Frankly, I don't even want to.talk about it, but it was attacked for observing an obviously fake social media account. Because I don't have certified documentation, I'm wrong somehow and he's right.

You call that a threat snowflake? Sheesh.
 
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father of a player poses a great question, slams the Vols fanbase:


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Boosters had to play a serious role here...think the fan base was just "cover"...

Dunno. They seemed to really love hiring AD John Currie - what, 9 months ago? They hired him to hire the next football coach. He did that, and fans got spun up. about it. I think they would have had harsh reactions for anyone not named Gruden, but Schiano's Penn State past made him an easy target.
 
I'll post this story again...

I knew a girl in HS who out of the blue she gave birth to a slightly premature baby. Everyone was shocked, she was very skinny... how could she be pregnant and you couldn't tell? She claimed she didn't know she was pregnant. To this day, about 20 years later, her family still thinks she had no idea she was pregnant. Truth be told, she admitted to me about 15 years ago that "of course she knew she was pregnant". She lied to her family to save face with them, and the family was more than willing to buy into her lie because it was better than the alternative.

The moral of the story is, the family sometimes is in the worst position to know the truth.
Did she claim it was an immaculate conception? :cool:
 
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IMHO... He would be crazy to not sue.... He much of the public on his side sympathy wise. UT wants this to go away ASAP and looks awful in this whole dumpster fire... pure poison and toxic the more this stays in the press. Let alone he has good reason and ground to sue. Get a huge chunk of change to throw at retirement.
 
Does the statute also take into account the value of the contract? Some organizations (public or private) have stipulations as to whom can sign a contract (or agreement) based in part on the value of the agreement.
The statute of frauds goes WAY back in the English common law, from which the U.S. legal system largely derives. The premise underlying it is that some kinds of contracts are sufficiently important that the law simply must require they be in writing in order to be enforced. Contracts not to be performed within one year are one such kind of contract. Contracts for the sale, purchase, or leasing of real estate are another.

All fifty states have a statute of frauds, and each state has modified the common law version in some respects. Pennsylvania's statute of frauds requires that contracts for the sale of goods that are for more then $500 must be in writing. (Title 13, Section 2201(a) of the Pennsylvania Revised Statutes.).
 
Does the statute also take into account the value of the contract? Some organizations (public or private) have stipulations as to whom can sign a contract (or agreement) based in part on the value of the agreement.
Do you mean like PSU allowing Erickson to sign off on the consent decree and sanctions all by his lonesome? Oh wait, you likely were referring to transparent, well run organizations no doubt.
 
mlvnsmly, your new here. Give it a rest.

Why does he have to give it a rest? He's not violating any board rules. What, demlion is immune from criticism? The guy has freakin' "dem" in his handle, I don't think it's a big stretch to claim he views things through a partisan political prism. And who the heck are you to tell another poster to give it a rest? Are you a mod? If not, leave him alone.
 
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