Study: Fully Vaccinated Healthcare Workers Carry High Delta Viral Loads Without Becoming Ill, Pose Threat to Unvaccinated Patients, Co-Workers

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This is exactly one of the things Geert Vanden Bossche talked about in his warning from a few months ago >> the vaccinated will drive the spread of the disease (due the vaccines causing people to not feel symptoms even with high viral loads). Btw there are dozens of prophylactic studies showing Ivermectin prevents transmission by 90% regardless of variant.


I think Dr. McCullough is spot on in his below article except for the part where he mentions the 251 number in the preprint paper. This paper does not compare the viral loads of those infected with the Delta variant in the two populations: vaccinated and have delta; unvaccinated and have delta. It compares the viral load to the vaccinated who are infected with delta to the unvaccinated who were infected with older strains in 2020. However, it clearly shows that the vaccine is useless for preventing transmission.


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Peter A. McCullough, M.D., MPH

"A groundbreaking preprint paper by the prestigious Oxford University Clinical Research Group, published Aug. 10 in The Lancet, includes alarming findings devastating to the COVID vaccine rollout.

The study found vaccinated individuals carry 251 times the load of COVID-19 viruses in their nostrils compared to the unvaccinated.

While moderating the symptoms of infection, the jab allows vaccinated individuals to carry unusually high viral loads without becoming ill at first, potentially transforming them into presymptomatic superspreaders.

This phenomenon may be the source of the shocking post-vaccination surges in heavily vaccinated populations globally.

The paper’s authors, Chau et al, demonstrated widespread vaccine failure and transmission under tightly controlled circumstances in a hospital lockdown in Ho Chi Minh City, Viet Nam.

The scientists studied healthcare workers who were unable to leave the hospital for two weeks. The data showed that fully vaccinated workers — about two months after injection with the Oxford/AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine (AZD1222) — acquired, carried and presumably transmitted the Delta variant to their vaccinated colleagues.

They almost certainly also passed the Delta infection to susceptible unvaccinated people, including their patients. Sequencing of strains confirmed the workers transmitted SARS-CoV-2 to one another.

This is consistent with the observations in the U.S. from Farinholt and colleagues, and congruent with comments by the director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention conceding COVID-19 vaccines have failed to stop transmission of SARS-CoV-2.

On Feb. 11, the World Health Organization indicated the AZD1222 vaccine efficacy of 63.09% against the development of symptomatic SARS-CoV-2 infection. The conclusions of the Chau paper support the warnings by leading medical experts that the partial, non-sterilizing immunity from the three notoriously “leaky” COVID-19 vaccines allow carriage of 251 times the viral load of SARS-CoV-2 as compared to samples from the pre-vaccination era in 2020.

Thus, we have a key piece to the puzzle explaining why the Delta outbreak is so formidable — fully vaccinated are participating as COVID-19 patients and acting as powerful Typhoid Mary-style super-spreaders of the infection.

Vaccinated individuals are blasting out concentrated viral explosions into their communities and fueling new COVID surges. Vaccinated healthcare workers are almost certainly infecting their coworkers and patients, causing horrendous collateral damage.

Continued vaccination will only make this problem worse, particularly among frontline doctors and nurses workers who are caring for vulnerable patients.

Health systems should drop vaccine mandates immediately, take stock of COVID-19 recovered workers who are robustly immune to Delta and consider the ramifications of their current vaccinated healthcare workers as potential threats to high risk patients and coworkers."
 

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I work in the healthcare field one on the nursing homes I service has seven infected residents two on respirators everyone vaccinated. This will be coming everywhere
 
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I work in the healthcare field one on the nursing homes I service has seven infected residents two on respirators everyone vaccinated. This will be coming everywhere
Yep and they will continue to incorrectly blame the unvaccinated for the cause of the spread thus causing more people to get vaccinated/further dividing our country...a nice lil positive feedback loop. How nice for big pharma! "If you've been vaccinated and you don't want to unknowingly carry high viral loads take the latest booster shot"......or just don't take the novel leaky ass vaccine and take proven safe nutraceuticals like Vitamin D, Vitamin, C, zinc, etc. and FDA approved drugs prescribed off label like HCQ, Ivermectin, Budesonide, Zpak, etc.....smh
 

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The study found vaccinated individuals carry 251 times the load of COVID-19 viruses in their nostrils compared to the unvaccinated.

Except this isn't true, or intentionally misleading at best. They merely compared viral loads to samples from over a year ago, not to concurrently unvaccinated people as the article implies. Also the study was done in Vietnam. Also this was solely the AZ vaccine, not one authorized in the USA. There's also no data about when the 2020 samples were collected in relation to the time frame these samples were collected. Plus the high viral loads in people who never were symptomatic should raise a big eyebrow, too.
 

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Except this isn't true, or intentionally misleading at best. They merely compared viral loads to samples from over a year ago, not to concurrently unvaccinated people as the article implies. Also the study was done in Vietnam. Also this was solely the AZ vaccine, not one authorized in the USA. There's also no data about when the 2020 samples were collected in relation to the time frame these samples were collected. Plus the high viral loads in people who never were symptomatic should raise a big eyebrow, too.
Ummmm did you not see this part of my OP pointing out some of the same things you mentioned?

I think Dr. McCullough is spot on in his below article except for the part where he mentions the 251 number in the preprint paper. This paper does not compare the viral loads of those infected with the Delta variant in the two populations: vaccinated and have delta; unvaccinated and have delta. It compares the viral load to the vaccinated who are infected with delta to the unvaccinated who were infected with older strains in 2020. However, it clearly shows that the vaccine is useless for preventing transmission.

I think Dr. McCullough used a poor choice of words, he wasn't intentionally trying to mislead anyone. To me the biggest and most important take away was that the vaccinated health care workers were shown to have extremely high viral loads with hardly any symptoms. This is a recipe for disaster b/c it would make it more likely for people to unknowingly spread the disease around. Normally if they had high viral loads they'd be more symptomatic (like an unvaccinated person) and they'd stay home and avoid contact.

Also we've seen the same types of break throughs with the mRNA shots too. Read some of the studies linked in the OP such as this one:


There's also the bloomberg analysis that looked at data from states and found 100+ thousand breakthrough infections. These vaccines don't do shit to stop certain variants from spreading especially delta so they aren't and will never be the answer to "getting back to normal" even though normal never should have changed in the first place if we followed public health 101 practices as described in the Great Barrington Declaration.

 

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This is exactly one of the things Geert Vanden Bossche talked about in his warning from a few months ago >> the vaccinated will drive the spread of the disease (due the vaccines causing people to not feel symptoms even with high viral loads). Btw there are dozens of prophylactic studies showing Ivermectin prevents transmission by 90% regardless of variant.


I think Dr. McCullough is spot on in his below article except for the part where he mentions the 251 number in the preprint paper. This paper does not compare the viral loads of those infected with the Delta variant in the two populations: vaccinated and have delta; unvaccinated and have delta. It compares the viral load to the vaccinated who are infected with delta to the unvaccinated who were infected with older strains in 2020. However, it clearly shows that the vaccine is useless for preventing transmission.


By
Peter A. McCullough, M.D., MPH

"A groundbreaking preprint paper by the prestigious Oxford University Clinical Research Group, published Aug. 10 in The Lancet, includes alarming findings devastating to the COVID vaccine rollout.

The study found vaccinated individuals carry 251 times the load of COVID-19 viruses in their nostrils compared to the unvaccinated.

While moderating the symptoms of infection, the jab allows vaccinated individuals to carry unusually high viral loads without becoming ill at first, potentially transforming them into presymptomatic superspreaders.

This phenomenon may be the source of the shocking post-vaccination surges in heavily vaccinated populations globally.

The paper’s authors, Chau et al, demonstrated widespread vaccine failure and transmission under tightly controlled circumstances in a hospital lockdown in Ho Chi Minh City, Viet Nam.

The scientists studied healthcare workers who were unable to leave the hospital for two weeks. The data showed that fully vaccinated workers — about two months after injection with the Oxford/AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine (AZD1222) — acquired, carried and presumably transmitted the Delta variant to their vaccinated colleagues.

They almost certainly also passed the Delta infection to susceptible unvaccinated people, including their patients. Sequencing of strains confirmed the workers transmitted SARS-CoV-2 to one another.

This is consistent with the observations in the U.S. from Farinholt and colleagues, and congruent with comments by the director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention conceding COVID-19 vaccines have failed to stop transmission of SARS-CoV-2.

On Feb. 11, the World Health Organization indicated the AZD1222 vaccine efficacy of 63.09% against the development of symptomatic SARS-CoV-2 infection. The conclusions of the Chau paper support the warnings by leading medical experts that the partial, non-sterilizing immunity from the three notoriously “leaky” COVID-19 vaccines allow carriage of 251 times the viral load of SARS-CoV-2 as compared to samples from the pre-vaccination era in 2020.

Thus, we have a key piece to the puzzle explaining why the Delta outbreak is so formidable — fully vaccinated are participating as COVID-19 patients and acting as powerful Typhoid Mary-style super-spreaders of the infection.

Vaccinated individuals are blasting out concentrated viral explosions into their communities and fueling new COVID surges. Vaccinated healthcare workers are almost certainly infecting their coworkers and patients, causing horrendous collateral damage.

Continued vaccination will only make this problem worse, particularly among frontline doctors and nurses workers who are caring for vulnerable patients.

Health systems should drop vaccine mandates immediately, take stock of COVID-19 recovered workers who are robustly immune to Delta and consider the ramifications of their current vaccinated healthcare workers as potential threats to high risk patients and coworkers."
Bump. More corroboration of the OP (the vaccines increase the likelihood of asymptomatic spread.


There are several recently published studies that evince similar findings. And the data out of Israel over the past few months is virtually incontrovertible on the question, but this new study is very well-designed, with results difficult to dispute.

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Shedding of Infectious SARS-CoV-2 Despite VaccinationThe SARS-CoV-2 Delta variant might cause high viral loads, is highly transmissible, and contains mutations that confer partial immune escape [1][1],[2][2]. Outbreak investigations suggest that
vaccina…https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.31.21261387v4.full

Findings:

1) Asymptomatic fully vaccinated are carrying around extremely infectious high viral loads. You are MUCH MORE likely (82%) to contract Covid from an asymptomatic fully vaccinated person than from an asymptomatic unvaccinated person (29%).

Read that again.

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2) You are EQUALLY as likely to contract Covid from a symptomatic vaccinated (69%) as from an symptomatic unvaccinated (68%).

Bottom Line: It is increasingly apparent that the current case spike in the US is being driven as much or more by vaccinated as unvaccinated.
 
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