Studies show an aggressive vitamin D campaign could have prevented nearly all COVID deaths

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No no no, we can’t be having people take some simple vitamin D3 supplements, they must take a novel shot with no long term safety data instead…yeah that’s the answer!

Meta-analysis:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8541492 (COVID-19 Mortality Risk Correlates Inversely with Vitamin D3 Status, and a Mortality Rate Close to Zero Could Theoretically Be Achieved at 50 ng/mL 25(OH)D3: Results of a Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis)

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“What if we could simply have advised everyone last March to supplement with vitamin D (and active forms of D for those with absorption issues)? An endless stream of academic research demonstrates that not only would such an approach have worked much better than the vaccines, but rather than coming with sundry known and unknown negative side effects, it would have induced immeasurable positive side effects in the population for an array of other health concerns.

I recently changed doctors in search of a physician who actually follows science rather than political protocols from government and Big Pharma. My wife was searching through my medical records and found that eight years ago, my D level was just 18 ng/mL, well below the cutoff for insufficiency. Yet my former doctor never informed me of it or flagged it as a concern. Fast-forward to today after months of supplementing, thanks to the advice of people like Dr. Ryan Cole, and my level is at 67. This likely means that when the pandemic hit last March, my levels were still woefully low.

According to a new German study, the difference between a level of 18 and one over 50 is the difference between life and death. Why has this education not gotten out to the public, especially now that we are in the winter season, when there is essentially no natural vitamin D from sunlight above the 37th parallel? Or is the obfuscation by design?

With studies having shown zero correlation between lockdowns, masks, and vaccines and better COVID outcomes, there are now 142 studiesvouching for the near-perfect correlation between higher vitamin D levels and better outcomes in COVID patients. It is likely the area of COVID-19 treatment research that has the most data behind it. However, a recent German study stands out from all of them because it comes the closest to proving this ironclad correlation to be causation.

Not only did the German researchers find a linear relationship between vitamin D levels and mortality from COVID, they found essentially zero morbidity for those with a D level above 50 ng/mL. The reason this study is so important relative to the dozens of others tracking D levels with COVID outcomes is because it measured the levels months before the patients got COVID as well as after the infection onset. “In most studies, the vitamin D level was determined several days after the onset of infection; therefore, a low vitamin D level may be the result and not the trigger of the course of infection,” note the authors.

This study, however, followed 1,601 hospitalized patients, 784 who had their vitamin D levels measured within a day after admission and 817 whose vitamin D levels were known before infection. As an adjunct to this sample, researchers also analyzed the long-term average vitamin D3 levels documented for 19 countries. The observed median vitamin D value over all collected study cohorts was 23.2 ng/mL, which is considered insufficient. The results were remarkable.

“At a threshold level of 30 ng/mL, mortality decreases considerably,” found the authors. “In addition, our analysis shows that the correlation for the combined datasets intersects the axis at approximately 50 ng/mL, which suggests that this vitamin D3 blood level may prevent any excess mortality. These findings are supported not only by a large infection study, showing the same optimum but also by the natural levels observed in traditional people living in the region where humanity originated from that were able to fight down most (not all) infections in most (not all) individuals.”

Based on these findings, they conclude that people should test their blood levels and supplement to get their levels over 50. Studies have already shownthat one is 14 times more likely to die from COVID with vitamin D deficiency

The reality is that most people’s levels are below 30 and many are closer to zero, especially among the elderly population. It is beyond criminal that 20 months into this endeavor there has not been a national campaign percolating down to primary care physicians to test and supplement vitamin D levels accordingly. Think of the numerous benefits of vitamin D — from a healthier immune system and stronger bones to decreased risk for heart attack and cancer — as opposed to the risks of so many of the other things we are harnessing to “fight” this virus. Why on earth would vitamin D not become the new vaccine when it provides more protection against the virus than any vaccine?

What is particularly scandalous is that the authors found that black people living in northern countries have lower vitamin D levels in general, and yet there has been no governmental push to raise awareness of their vitamin D deficiency. Instead, there is a relentless effort to shame them into taking shots that are unsafe and ineffective.

As the authors explain, the main cause of death from COVID stems from a “cytokine storm” when the body’s immune system releases too many toxic cytokines as part of the inflammatory response to the virus. Vitamin D is the key regulator of those cells, and the insufficient amount of D is nearly synonymous with a greater risk for a cytokine storm. In many ways, a cytokine storm is literally the outcome of vitamin D deficiency.

We’ve had 20 months to get our levels over 50, and certainly at least over 30. I had my levels increase by approximately 50 ngs/mL in a half year. Had the public been doing this at the same time, most deaths could have been avoided. Those with absorption problems could have been given the active form of D – either calcifediol or calcitriol – to raise their levels, bypassing the liver’s metabolic process very quickly. Studies have shown that almost anyone hospitalized with low levels but given the active form of D did not progress to the ICU thereafter.

A new study from Turkish researchers found that even a rapid regimen of regular vitamin D3 with the aim of getting people’s levels over 30 was wildly successful compared to people without supplementation. They found that those who used their treatment protocol to get their levels over 30 — even if they had comorbidities — were much better off than those without comorbidities who didn’t supplement. “Our treatment protocol increased the serum 25OHD levels significantly to above 30 ng/mL within two weeks,” concluded the authors. “COVID-19 cases (no comorbidities, no vitamin D treatment, 25OHD <30 ng/mL) had 1.9-fold increased risk of having hospitalization longer than 8 days compared with the cases with comorbidities and vitamin D treatment.”


Hence, if one believes government can violate human rights and place mandates on one’s body to get a job, if the government made a rule that you have to get your D level over 50 in order to get a job, at least it would be following the science. Not only are people with high D levels better off personally, unlike vaccinated individuals with low D levels, they are much less likely to affect other people by spreading the disease because they have lower viral loads. A meta-analysis of 23 published studies containing 11,901 participants found that one who is vitamin D-deficient was 3.3 times more likely to get infected with SARS-CoV-2 than one who is not deficient.

As a nation, we have been willing to harm our children, society, economy, mental health, and physical health with masks, lockdowns, shots, and experimental therapeutics that have zero or limited proven efficacy. Why would we not try an approach that comes with positive, rather than negative, side effects for our whole health? Perhaps the answer lies in what Big Pharma doesn’t want us to know about the benefits of high-dose vitamin D — not just for COVID but for other ailments they rely upon for their existence. All the political policies flow downstream from there.”
 
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Wow I’m shocked. If your vitamin D level is that low no shit your going to be susceptible to Covid or other viruses. Vitamin D is important to good health. It’s been proven the healthier you are the better against Covid. It doesn’t mean high doses of vitamin d work against Covid. They don’t. It just means having a normal level means you are healthy.
 
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The Scandinavian countries have been supplementing their people with D3 for years as they are so far north they are always deficient. And these same countries have low numbers of Wuhan deaths.

The United States has been supplementing people with vitamin D for decades.

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I tried to find it but how much D3 does it say to take everyday?? Thx
 

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Kids don’t drink milk. Try putting D3 into Pepsi, Coke, Mountain Dew, and Jolt.

That's a ridiculous claim. And Jolt doesn't even exist anymore. You are thinking Monster or Red Bull.

But anyway the flaw in this whole discussion is that healthy people didn't die from covid. Elderly, Obese and unhealthy people did.

You could suplement them with whatever you want and it likely wouldn't take/help.

We need to drop the myth that healthy people died from covid, which was put forth by that disgusting woman who parlayed her husband's death into a seat on the view or whatever show she was on. I doubt he was healthy and he could have had a major heroin addiction for all we know.

Did a few? Yes. Probably the same that die every year from other normal communicable diseases.

But overall Covid killed those already at the doorstep of death.

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That's a ridiculous claim. And Jolt doesn't even exist anymore. You are thinking Monster or Red Bull.

But anyway the flaw in this whole discussion is that healthy people didn't die from covid. Elderly, Obese and unhealthy people did.

You could suplement them with whatever you want and it likely wouldn't take/help.

We need to drop the myth that healthy people died from covid, which was put forth by that disgusting woman who parlayed her husband's death into a seat on the view or whatever show she was on. I doubt he was healthy and he could have had a major heroin addiction for all we know.

Did a few? Yes. Probably the same that die every year from other normal communicable diseases.

But overall Covid killed those already at the doorstep of death.

LdN
So you are are saying the OP, and all the studies it linked to and/or quoted, are wrong?
 

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So you are are saying the OP, and all the studies it linked to and/or quoted, are wrong?

I don't believe anything WeR posts.

He does not understand most of it and conclusions made by 'TheBlaze' are mostly garbage.

It's easy to say high vitamin D prevents covid death. I believe it and have been taking vitamin D since the onset.

But why was the vitamin D low to begin with?

Elderly, Obese, Ill. Not because they didn't drink milk.

And, finally the idea that the government doesn't promote Vitamin D is a joke.

LdN
 

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And disinfectant, Dr. Conspiracy Guy. Don't forget the disinfectant.

Love this thread. LULZ ...
 

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Not that I disagree with vit D can help with Covid mortality. BUT, the age group that is most deficient is the elderly, probably even worse is elderly in poor health who end up getting no sun. I see with my parents the older they are the less likely they are out in the sun. Dad is 93 mom is 88. They are in pretty good health for their age but they are way more likely to die from heath issue than they were 10 years ago. When you look at Covid deaths the elderly are way more likely to die than younger people, is it Vit D or just that they are old and have a more degraded immune system??? It probably a combination of both. This is the problem with meta studies, they are good finding trends but no so good when you try and tease out the details.
 

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I tried to find it but how much D3 does it say to take everyday?? Thx
I take around 5,000 IU's a day and that keeps me above 50ng/ml which is the target for your Vitamin D levels.
That's a ridiculous claim. And Jolt doesn't even exist anymore. You are thinking Monster or Red Bull.

But anyway the flaw in this whole discussion is that healthy people didn't die from covid. Elderly, Obese and unhealthy people did.

You could suplement them with whatever you want and it likely wouldn't take/help.

We need to drop the myth that healthy people died from covid, which was put forth by that disgusting woman who parlayed her husband's death into a seat on the view or whatever show she was on. I doubt he was healthy and he could have had a major heroin addiction for all we know.

Did a few? Yes. Probably the same that die every year from other normal communicable diseases.

But overall Covid killed those already at the doorstep of death.

LdN
If someone who is young is extremely low in Vitamin D would you consider them "healthy?" What these studies have shown is even in non elderly people if your vitamin D levels are low you are at a much higher risk of severe disease/death from covid. It's a common risk factor across all age groups. Also if you're elderly and you have good vitamin D levels you're way less likely to die from covid than a peer with lower vitamin D. If you bothered yourself to read any of the studies you'd know this so your contention that vitamin D supplementation wouldn't do much for elderly folks holds no water. It could have saved tens if not hundreds of thousands of lives all by itself and that's not even considering the impact of adding some vitamin c, zinc, and quercetin to the mix and if needed HCQ or IVM or monoclonal antibodies.

I'd bet money that almost anyone at any age that has died from covid had very low Vitamin D.
Not that I disagree with vit D can help with Covid mortality. BUT, the age group that is most deficient is the elderly, probably even worse is elderly in poor health who end up getting no sun. I see with my parents the older they are the less likely they are out in the sun. Dad is 93 mom is 88. They are in pretty good health for their age but they are way more likely to die from heath issue than they were 10 years ago. When you look at Covid deaths the elderly are way more likely to die than younger people, is it Vit D or just that they are old and have a more degraded immune system??? It probably a combination of both. This is the problem with meta studies, they are good finding trends but no so good when you try and tease out the details.
This is the problem. People are getting the vaccines drilled into their heads when the govt should be harping on getting Vitamin D levels checked and providing free supplementation if it's low. There's no vitamin D hesitancy and it would go a long way with very little to lose. That's not happening. There's ZERO covid or overall health messaging urging elderly folks, people with darker skin, etc. to put an extra emphasis on their vitamin D levels. It's not even up for debate whether or not low vitamin D is a risk factor, it may even be the MAIN risk factor.

Do overweight people have low Vitamin D? Yep, extra fat makes it harder for your body to absorb it

Do elderly people have low Vitamin D? Yep.

Do black/brown people have low vitamin D? Yep

Wow all of those people just happen to be at higher risk of covid death...what a coincidence!

When you consider the above along with the studies linked in the OP why the eff isn't our govt laser focused on making sure people get enough vitamin D as well as other simple supplements such as vitamin C, zinc, and quercetin/EGCG? They aren't b/c their agenda isn't our health it's aligned with making $$$ for big pharma (note that many of the folks in the FDA/CDC etc. are ex big pharma executives).
 
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You think a small percentage of the Us population drinks milk?

It's in every school lunch. It goes with cereal and coffee.

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If you think people are getting enough vitamin D from milk to keep their levels above 30-50 ng/ml then you're an idiot. They'd have to drink a ton of milk and many folks don't drink milk due to religious, intolerance, etc..

Also there's no messaging imploring people to do everything they can to monitor (and raise via supplements if needed) their vitamin D levels. The NIH should be making sure it's one of the main things people's docs talk to them about along with getting a CBC, A1C, etc. checked during routine bloodwork.
 

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I don't believe anything WeR posts.

He does not understand most of it and conclusions made by 'TheBlaze' are mostly garbage.

It's easy to say high vitamin D prevents covid death. I believe it and have been taking vitamin D since the onset.

But why was the vitamin D low to begin with?

Elderly, Obese, Ill. Not because they didn't drink milk.

And, finally the idea that the government doesn't promote Vitamin D is a joke.

LdN
So NOw you move from D is in milk so people get plenty to them government promotes D’. How many people have their D levels checked on a regular basis? How many are at recommended levels? How many supplement their D intake? Does the government supply D to people free of charge like the Scandinavian countries?
 

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I remember Milk commercials back in the 80's. The government is sure as shit not promoting milk unless you count the commercials about farmers. And that's for their benefit, not yours.
 
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So NOw you move from D is in milk so people get plenty to them government promotes D’. How many people have their D levels checked on a regular basis? How many are at recommended levels? How many supplement their D intake? Does the government supply D to people free of charge like the Scandinavian countries?

The US isn't scandanavia. And comparing us to them in any way health wise is bizarre.

Ever visited Norway or Sweden?

I am not changing anything. The US promotes taking vitamin D hence its placement in Milk.

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If you think people are getting enough vitamin D from milk to keep their levels above 30-50 ng/ml then you're an idiot. They'd have to drink a ton of milk and many folks don't drink milk due to religious, intolerance, etc..

Also there's no messaging imploring people to do everything they can to monitor (and raise via supplements if needed) their vitamin D levels. The NIH should be making sure it's one of the main things people's docs talk to them about along with getting a CBC, A1C, etc. checked during routine bloodwork.

LOL. You despise big pharm but keep pumping the supplement industry. While I'm not big fan of big pharm, I despise the supplement industry. Time and time again they have been wrong with taking a supplement pill for what ever ails you when they actually get around to doing a rigorous study of the supplement. And it not surprising, taking an extracted version of a compound is not the same as obtaining it from real food. And I will confess I do take a multivitamin just to hedge my bets but I'm not looking at it as a magic supplement bullet like you keep pumping for Covid.
 
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LOL. You despise big pharm but keep pumping the supplement industry. While I'm not big fan of big pharm, I despise the supplement industry. Time and time again they have been wrong with taking a supplement pill for what ever ails you when they actually get around to doing a rigorous study of the supplement. And it not surprising, taking an extracted version of a compound is not the same as obtaining it from real food. And I will confess I do take a multivitamin just to hedge my bets but I'm not looking at it as a magic supplement bullet like you keep pumping for Covid.
Ummm ok? Of course there are a lot of garbage supplements out there so if people aren't using discretion & doing their own research then they are idiots. What I do to cut through the marketing hype is limit myself to supplements that have been proven in clinical trials or have some sort of study to back up their claims. For example there are studies showing Zinc inhibits RNA virus replication so I started taking zinc...however there are many different forms of zinc some being more absorbable than others so folks need to do their own research to sift through the crap.

Btw one of the main reasons why older people have weakened immune systems is b/c they aren't getting enough vitamin D and other key nutrients! So if we made sure these folks supplemented with quality vetted supplements then it would go a long way in reducing health related deaths/hospitalizations in this age group and all age groups really.
 

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I have my doubts about the quantitative scope of the Covid-preventive benefits asserted, but D3 is fairly widely recognized as promoting a healthy immune system, and so I'm not particularly skeptical of the idea that it may provide some benefit here. My treating docs have all recommended it, and several MDs in my family likewise have emphasized it as well in Covid. Low risk, low cost, modest potential benefit is a no brainer in my book.
 

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I remember Milk commercials back in the 80's. The government is sure as shit not promoting milk unless you count the commercials about farmers. And that's for their benefit, not yours.

Milk is a required part of school lunches specifically due to nutrients and vitamins.

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Milk is a required part of school lunches specifically due to nutrients and vitamins.

LdN
And 8 oz of milk gives 15% of the daily recommended total. And that is if people get an hour of sun per day and have a healthy diet.....which few people do both. And the daily recommendation of 800 IU per day is too low for elderly, people with absorption issues, and people with comorbidities.

Oh, and how many kids actually drink that milk?
 
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And 8 oz of milk gives 15% of the daily recommended total. And that is if people get an hour of sun per day and have a healthy diet.....which few people do both. And the daily recommendation of 800 IU per day is too low for elderly, people with absorption issues, and people with comorbidities.

Oh, and how many kids actually drink that milk?

The topic is whether or not the US promotes vitamin D. And they do.

You said they don't but they do.

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I never said that or anything even close to that. You are so full of crappola. Done with you.

This is what you said about vitamin d supplementation:

"Not the entire population. Actually a very small percentage. Scandinavians all get free D3 regularly."

Uh no. Everyone who drinks milk which at least 50% of the US population is supplemented with vitamin D.

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I never said that or anything even close to that. You are so full of crappola. Done with you.
He's an ass who can never admit they are wrong about anything. The main topic at hand is why the eff hasn't fauci and the federal govt provided massive and constant messaging around the importance of getting your vitamin d level up to around 50 ng/ml and providing free supplementation if it's low?? Instead ALL they talk about are the dangerous and ineffective masks and the novel vaccines which a lot of people don't want anything to do with. Not one peep about any type of early or preventative measures such as vitamin d or even other non controversial things like zinc + natural zinc ionophore (quercetin/EGCG from green tea). This IMO is criminal. These simple measures could have saved countless lives.
 
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This is what you said about vitamin d supplementation:

"Not the entire population. Actually a very small percentage. Scandinavians all get free D3 regularly."

Uh no. Everyone who drinks milk which at least 50% of the US population is supplemented with vitamin D.

LdN
Oh so 50% of the population gets a tiny amount of vitamin D via milk (note that not all milk has vitamin D added to it)? How does that equate to the govt providing actual supplements to the public for free on a massive scale? The amount this subset of the milk drinking population get isnt enough to get people anywhere close to 50 ng/ml.

What if people are vegan, have a milk allergy, don't eat a lot of cereal, etc? Most adults I know only get milk when eating cereal or using 1/2 and 1/2 in coffee. We don't just sit there and drink gallons of milk all day.

The govt sends out nonstop messages about getting the fuucking shot and makes sure the vaccine centers are in every community but they can't do the same re: vitamin D? They should be handing it out like candy and reminding people DAILY about it's importance.
 
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The govt send out nonstop message about getting the fuucking shot and makes sure the vaccine centers are in every community but they can't do the same re: vitamin D? They should be handing it out like candy and reminding people DAILY about it's importance.

That's the American Way. Not sure which part of this you don't understand.

You and I pay for the healthcare of 400lb women and heroin addicts despite living clean and healthy lives.

Shots and pills are how we do things. Not work and health.

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This is what you said about vitamin d supplementation:

"Not the entire population. Actually a very small percentage. Scandinavians all get free D3 regularly."

Uh no. Everyone who drinks milk which at least 50% of the US population is supplemented with vitamin D.

LdN
Adding a small amount to milk has no comparison to a full amount of the daily recommended given free every day. But you wanna keep believing......
 
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I have my doubts about the quantitative scope of the Covid-preventive benefits asserted, but D3 is fairly widely recognized as promoting a healthy immune system, and so I'm not particularly skeptical of the idea that it may provide some benefit here. My treating docs have all recommended it, and several MDs in my family likewise have emphasized it as well in Covid. Low risk, low cost, modest potential benefit is a no brainer in my book.
Here's the thing, start early and be consistent. Those who pay attention to this early on will probably have other good health habits lowering their risk for about everything.
 
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You think a small percentage of the Us population drinks milk?

It's in every school lunch. It goes with cereal and coffee.

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Ain’t much in there . I take Rx Vit D2 50,000 units once per week x 12 weeks during the winter . It’s amazing how many people are deficient. Sun is your best bet over food . I golf a lot and still low . The Rx is sweet .
 
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Have you been vaccinated yet? Or have you just been "immunized" with moo juice, household disinfectant or some other Trumpian home remedy? I'm fairly confident that it's the latter.
Moo juice and vitamins seem to be working. Haven't caught it yet and was told unless I got the shot I'd die.. it's been almost two years and 15 variants, still waiting...