Why are we having an actual discussion in a thread started by Gunnie?
Simmons a go for Ohio State
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I agree. tOSU hasn't faced a running game yet this season...and certainly not an offense with so many weapons. I think we score a lot of points against a darn good D. However, we've got to stop tOSU's running game. That means we are going to have to commit our S to run support leaving our CBs to cover their wideouts. Bottom line: can our CB's cover their WR's?
I haven't done my Obli's Observations but I really liked what ILL did to our D. They established a running game. Then, when we committed our S, they ran a lot of slants. They also attacked our perimeter pass defense with a series of bubble screens and fake bubble screens. The TD that Reid gave up was because they faked a bubble screen. When he realized it wasn't a bubble screen, the WR who he thought was going to block him, simply turned to the middle of the field and was wide open because our Ss had to cheat up.
I really liked Ill's offense, they just didn't have much talent to run it. But they attacked our S all night long: with a running game, slants and then bubble and fake bubble screens. tOSU will duplicate this offense....just wait and see. Its all on film to see.
PSU should start Sutherland and Taylor at the safety spots- Taylor is really starting to play fast and tackling a lot better and Sutherland is coming around as well.
That's rich. YOU, making fun of ANYONE.
this is hilarious!
I am still looking where Cam Brown got pushed into the QB on the late hit. It looks to me like their OG puts his hand out, and actually slows Cam down from hitting the QB!
A healthy, ready to go Shane Simmons is a boost to Penn State. It's not entirely known if Shane would have been a starter initially had he been healthy.
Simmons is NOT listed on this week's depth chart. And therefore it is NOT a given at this point that he will play this week......
Maybe CJF will clear up his status tomorrow or during his Wednesday post-practice comments.
Some do not believe in the depth chart at all, but CJF does include injury outages within the DC. Just like Allen out of the DC this week.
Defensive End
48Shareef Miller(6-5, 260, Sr./Jr.)
49Daniel Joseph(6-3, 253, Jr./So.)
46Nick Tarburton(6-3, 246, Fr./Fr.)
Defensive End
99Yetur Gross-Matos(6-5, 259, So./So.)
18Shaka Toney(6-3, 241, Jr./So.)
46Nick Tarburton(6-3, 246, Fr./Fr.)
Maybe CJF will clear up his status tomorrow or during his Wednesday post-practice comments.
Some do not believe in the depth chart at all, but CJF does include injury outages within the DC. Just like Allen out of the DC this week.
Defensive End
48Shareef Miller(6-5, 260, Sr./Jr.)
49Daniel Joseph(6-3, 253, Jr./So.)
46Nick Tarburton(6-3, 246, Fr./Fr.)
Defensive End
99Yetur Gross-Matos(6-5, 259, So./So.)
18Shaka Toney(6-3, 241, Jr./So.)
46Nick Tarburton(6-3, 246, Fr./Fr.)
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Inside info from a guy who knows nothing, inside, outside, all around the town.
Lol, Greg, that's about as bad as Gunsie's posts. Even if Simmons was showing up as first team with no "OR" designation, you should know that these depth charts aren't worth the paper they're printed on (or electrons they're sent on).
But the people I know don't know any inside info. So neither do you. Jesus, Guns. Try to keep up.
LOL, let us know when Simmons shows up as first team with an "OR"....
There are times when a player is not listed on the DC (released on Monday) and then returns from injury late in the week. But most known injuries are accounted for in the DC. Just like Allen off the DC this week, due to injury. Bowers had been pretty much out of the DC, but must now be healthy and is 3rd team.
Why Tarburton has been consistently listed as 3rd team DE, even when the plan was to play Oweh the last 2 weeks as the 5th DE, who knows.
But dismissing the DC as some do is not too smart......
Well it’s coming soon so good guess possibly, but nothing more than that. It would be better if it was from a credible source.
I thought at one point last season Franklin said the depth chart is based on the last game not the upcoming game. They can’t know who will go Saturday on Monday.
Gunsie isn't credible!??!?!
"Penn State depth charts are to be taken with a grain of salt".
That's not me, that's about half of this message board, saying that. I'll gather up each one if you need that.
I know gunsie is a full of it, but please don't tell me you actually take the depth chart seriously. The football building is trolling the f out of you with this every week.
what's up with the bold font? almost as bad a comic sans.
Watch out! He'll demand you remove any post he sees unfit to this thread.
I can take it with a grain of salt without believing the opposite is true. What is your source?
All Roadhouse references welcome. A tussle between Dalton and guns would have been epic.
Taylor and Sutherland play the same S position. They aren't moving a guy to a new position for the tOSU game. Or any other game mid season for that matter. Sutherland should start, though. Taylor is not a football player.
Sutherland seems to be always around the ball. He is earning the playing time; let's see how he does in this big time game.
I compare him to Marcus Allen. Sutherland finds the ball and is like a missile getting there. I'd like to see more of him and less of Taylor. And by less of Taylor I mean none.
Wow! I didn’t realize that the size of the DE’s are nearly the same as a lot of linebackers. No wonder they get pushed around by 300 pound offensive linemen.
It's a shame they play the same position because we could use Sutherland's talent at the other safety position because Scott is a liability.
I couldn't disagree more with your assessment of Garrett Taylor, he's been our best defender to date. Many liabilities you might be referencing are due to him having to carry extra load because Scott is that bad. The same guy that helped develop the team S&P rankings (Connelly?), has put together advanced stats for individual players at every position - Taylor has been our most explosive and efficient defender to date.
Here's the breakdown of how the advanced individual stats work: LINK
And a breakdown of each player from PSU: LINK
Sutherland is a natural safety and seems to be always around the ball. Give him some more time and he'll bring the BOOM! Brooks and Luketa also need to see the field more.
to me 40 seems to be more ready playing in the 'box' as a LBer than 11 does. 11 might become a great player, but so far , he appears to be lost.
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