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SIAP: Article from Lansing rag defending Lou Anna Simon by attacking PSU (link)

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a wensilver mention too.......

It tries to use quotes from a retired MSU vice resident (who is a former PSU administrator) as proof of something.
 
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a wensilver mention too.......

It tries to use quotes from a retired MSU vice resident (who is a former PSU administrator) as proof of something.

"Sandusky preying on kids at Penn State", huh? WTF? This is an absurd and ludicrous accusation for anybody who knows the facts as even a remotely professional journalist should.
 
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"Sandusky preying on kids at Penn State", huh? WTF? This is an absurd and ludicrous accusation for anybody who knows the facts as even a remotely professional journalist should.

Wow didn't realize I was "prey" during those years I was at PSU. :rolleyes:
I think I deserve money. Now that I think about it I was at PSU while "Sandusky was preying on kids" and I worked in the same building where House of Cards
WAS being filmed. I passed Kevin Spacey in the parking lot and once at the catered lunch that was brought in. Damn someone get me a lawyer.
 
Uggg. Journalism has become such a lazy calling. I get the sense that most of these guys - even the "award winning" ones (according to Denbow) - only read their own stuff, which serves to ensure that their opinions are the only ones they know. Talk about insular!!
 

Maybe someone can copy/paste the text.

Couch: Memo to Penn State - MSU's Nassar scandal doesn't lessen sins tied to Sandusky
Graham Couch, Lansing State JournalPublished 1:58 p.m. ET Nov. 3, 2017 | Updated 2:38 p.m. ET Nov. 3, 2017

A once healthy little rivalry between Penn State and Michigan State turned ugly last winter.

A segment of Penn State fans — and one son of disgraced coach Joe Paterno — began attacking MSU president Lou Anna Simon on social media, in letters to the editor and on message boards. They saw her as a hypocrite for condemning Penn State in the wake of the Jerry Sandusky child sex abuse revelations while she was serving as the NCAA’s executive committee chairperson, and then allowing another monster, former MSU and USA Gymnastics doctor Larry Nassar, to exist under her watch.

It was Penn State’s populace trying its to best to live up to its reputation as an insular, isolated and football-crazed community that can’t see its own sins or the faults of its heroes.

I don’t believe that to be a fair collective characterization. I spent a day interviewing people on the streets of State College, Pennsylvania, in January of 2013 — 14 months after Sandusky, Penn State’s long-time defensive coordinator, was indicted, and a year after the death of Paterno. I found the responses from folks to be measured and mostly appropriate. Some full of regret, many feeling beaten down and unfairly under siege. Others wanted answers.

This is the Penn State community I’d like to think prevails. Sometimes they make it so damn hard on themselves, though.

“Michigan State President Lou Anna Simon had an alleged child molester hiding in plain sight on her campus while she sat in judgment of Penn State,” Wendy Silverwood of West Chester, Pennsylvania, wrote as the lead to a letter to the editor published in the Centre Daily Times on Jan. 10. “The hypocrisy by the representative from the Big Ten in 2012, who is currently embroiled in a rampant sex abuse scandal, should be pointed out.”

What happened at Michigan State, whatever culpability for culture or oversight Simon had, does not make her condemnation of what took place at Penn State any less justified. If your anger is directed at Simon, Penn State, you’re proving her point.

Here are Simon’s words from September 2012 that so irked some Penn Staters:

“Nobody's perfect. People make mistakes, and some of those are purposeful and premeditated, and if you just take the Penn State experience, pretty pervasive.”

This was five years before 140 women came forward to accuse Nassar of sexual abuse that had taken place over two decades, while he was employed as a physician at MSU. Nassar faces 22 charges of criminal sexual assault and the possibility of life in prison. Nassar has pleaded guilty to three federal charges related to child pornography and awaits sentencing next month.

MSU is paying dearly, both in reputation and financially. The university faces 10 lawsuits from women and girls who allege Nassar assaulted them, the price of which, by the time this is all over, could perhaps otherwise have funded tuition for a small country.

The scope of Nassar’s alleged crimes makes it a scandal as horrifying as Sandusky preying on children at Penn State. Beyond anyone who’s directly culpable at MSU, the university has plenty of difficult questions to ask itself, a culture to reassess and victims who deserve a sincere response, emotionally, financially and with whatever justice can be done.

Nassar will tarnish Simon’s previously sterling legacy.

But she’s not part of your story, Penn State.

“How does @michiganstatu president Simon keep her job? She used the “it happened on your watch” standard to condemn PSU,” Scott Paterno, son of Joe Paterno, tweeted last February.

Any venom from the Paterno kids is somewhat understandable. They are the children of a man who was killed by the death of his reputation, because of Sandusky.

The obsession with MSU and Lou Anna Simon from other parts of the Penn State community isn’t hard to find online.

“What's not gonna happen, Lou Anna, is that anyone here is going to let you forget this,” one message board poster wrote on Feb. 2.

Their anger stems from the sanctions placed on their football program and the tarnishing of Paterno’s name. And that folks placed blame on the people of Penn Sate for creating a culture that allowed Sandusky to operate unquestioned for decades.

Perhaps no one knows both Penn State and Michigan State and football-first culture better than retired MSU vice president of university relations Terry Denbow, who before spending 30 years as a spokesperson at MSU, spent time at Alabama and eight years in student public relations at Penn State.

“There was, at Penn State my whole eight years, a culture of ‘We Are’ and you’re not,’” Denbow said, referring to Penn State’s fan slogan. “And the ‘We Are’ and you’re not, no matter if you’re talking about politics or anything, really gets you into trouble. It blinds you and it distorts your thinking.

“There’s a sociological impact of somebody who stays too long in a valley. Penn State to me was a place that stayed too long in the valley. Hubris and insularity were the two sins that I assigned to Penn State. And I think hubris and insularity proved to be mortal sins, not just venial sins.

“When I moved from Penn State to Alabama, people (at Penn State) said, ‘Whoa, football is a religion down there.’ And that’s not seeing that football was a religion at Penn State, as well. That’s the halo over Paterno, the shrine and all that stuff.

“That’s coming from the ‘We Are’ part. We can’t be stereotyping. Because I know a lot of Penn Staters who say the same thing Lou Anna Simon says and more.”

I’ll keep trying to believe they’re the real Penn State.

Contact Graham Couch at gcouch@lsj.com. Follow him on Twitter @Graham_Couch.
 
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a wensilver mention too.......

It tries to use quotes from a retired MSU vice resident (who is a former PSU administrator) as proof of something.

I love how he completely avoids the fact that Simon was the Head of the NCAA at the time (i.e., Chair of the Executive Committee of the NCAA), but now hypocritically believes MSU has "paid dearly" which includes no involvement by the NCAA??? LMAO, written like a typical homer B1G @sshole - go figure.
 

Very well done. :)

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He's right, the even worse MSU scandal does nothing for PSU. But the facts, such as the outcome of the court cases, (eliminates) the sins tied to Sandusky.
 
When I moved from Penn State to Alabama, people (at Penn State) said, ‘Whoa, football is a religion down there.’ And that’s not seeing that football was a religion at Penn State, as well. That’s the halo over Paterno, the shrine and all that stuff.
The difference is Penn State fans care about all their sports and don't just follow football as a religion. I would like to see one Bama fan name a wrestler or a female volleyball player on their team. Football is not a religion at Penn State...Penn State is a religion at Penn State.
 
Uggg. Journalism has become such a lazy calling. I get the sense that most of these guys - even the "award winning" ones (according to Denbow) - only read their own stuff, which serves to ensure that their opinions are the only ones they know. Talk about insular!!

Someone should ask Terry Denbow about his whore of a daughter.
 
The difference is Penn State fans care about all their sports and don't just follow football as a religion. I would like to see one Bama fan name a wrestler or a female volleyball player on their team. Football is not a religion at Penn State...Penn State is a religion at Penn State.

Alabama fans can be excused for not being able to name a wrestler on its team since they don't have one.
 
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I forgot to comment on this when it was first posted.

Thank you Wendy Silverwood @wensilver for all you’ve done, especially bringing attention to the moral and fiduciary shortcomings of the entire 2nd Mile staff and their Executive Board, but also your unwavering fortitude in reminding us all (and even others as far away as Lansing, MI) as to who was really at fault.

You go girlfriend.
 
Simon took pains to lecture us when her university, led by her, was APPROVING INTRAVAGINAL MASSAGE as a legit treatment. She sat in judgment of PSU. THAT MAKES HER A VERY BIG PART OF OUR STORY.

In her lust to make sure she notified everyone that WE were craven molester-enablers, she promoted a narrative that made it harder to catch the molester inside her own shop. She doubled down on it thru her work with the NCAA.

Sorry, clown. She actually DID what she accused PSU of doing.
 
Simon took pains to lecture us when her university, led by her, was APPROVING INTRAVAGINAL MASSAGE as a legit treatment. She sat in judgment of PSU. THAT MAKES HER A VERY BIG PART OF OUR STORY.

In her lust to make sure she notified everyone that WE were craven molester-enablers, she promoted a narrative that made it harder to catch the molester inside her own shop. She doubled down on it thru her work with the NCAA.

Sorry, clown. She actually DID what she accused PSU of doing.
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Simon took pains to lecture us when her university, led by her, was APPROVING INTRAVAGINAL MASSAGE as a legit treatment. She sat in judgment of PSU. THAT MAKES HER A VERY BIG PART OF OUR STORY.

In her lust to make sure she notified everyone that WE were craven molester-enablers, she promoted a narrative that made it harder to catch the molester inside her own shop. She doubled down on it thru her work with the NCAA.

Sorry, clown. She actually DID what she accused PSU of doing.

TOTALLY agree Dem. And on top of that, those sanctimonious individuals associated with politics, academia, entertainment and news are all being exposed. What the said and insinuated about Joe Paterno are back on them but ten times worse. Be it ESPN, the president of MSU, president of the NCAA, Charlie Rose and all of the Hollywood elite. Just about every one of them participated, justified, cowered or enabled sexual abusers.

Karma's a bitch.

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To date - Graham Couch promised to call me and still owes me that phone call. He says he's been very busy.

We shall see.

I've updated this with the fact that while Freeh was grandstanding here in Philadelphia in July 2012 , totally ignored his own FBI's landmark research on Nice Guy Offenders, Olympic gymnast Aly Raisman was on a plane with her fellow gymnasts to the London Summer Games - to be sexually abused by Nice Guy Offender Larry Nassar.

Score more points for the Freeh report.

And I still have to wonder if Mark Emmert has issued any kind of statement on the MSU female athletes that were sexually abused by an MSU faculty member on the MSU campus in the MSU athletic department.

I can't seem to find one.

 
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David Harns is a reporter for MSU. Missed this tweet of his.
Note how in the piece at the top, Lou Anna Simon seems to say things which imply an failure at the NCAA to view the Penn State matter in the way they should have viewed it. They did the wrong thing, she almost says.

Well, Ms. Simon, that's not the end of it. You were on the NCAA board which chose what to do. You made certain statements of contempt for PSU. If you are sincere about the mistake, here's what you do: pick up the goddamn telephone and call Sue Paterno.

Right now.
Apologize to that good woman, and if she tells you to f**k off, then publish a letter of apology.

It's a good start to admit your multibillion dollar org screwed this up, but it is thin to the point of translucency without the PERSONAL apology. Failing that, STFU.
 
With Gabby Douglas' accusations against Nassar yesterday, that makes what 3 members of a US Olympic team that were molested by him, at least a decade after student athletes at MSU reported to at least one coach and several administrators that Nassar had molested them.

Think about that. They actually did know and did nothing until they were actually sued. And athletes representing the US in international competition were abused and molested by their employee because they refused to take action when they were notified.

So Mr. Graham Crotch, you better believe that Benny Hill lookalike is part of our story because she put herself in the middle of the story. And people like you laughed and faked outrage saying you were better than us, and that what happened here would never happen to you. But guess what, it did, much worse and affected much more than Denbow's insular valley. I don't take joy in Nassar's crimes, but I certainly do and will take joy in watching your smug smirks get wiped off your hypocritical faces.
 
With Gabby Douglas' accusations against Nassar yesterday, that makes what 3 members of a US Olympic team that were molested by him, at least a decade after student athletes at MSU reported to at least one coach and several administrator

Another consequence of the Freeh report.

Louis Freeh stood at that that lectern on July 12, 2012 in the ballroom at The Westin on 17th Street here in Phila. It was a nationally televised press conference mind you. With his reading glasses perched on the end of his nose he looked over at the media assembled in that room, waggling his finger about a "cover up" and "the tone at the top".

So instead of discussing Nice Guy Offenders using his own FBI's research on the topic, Louis Freeh pontificated that day. It is critical to note that while he was doing this - these girls were on a plane to the London Summer Olypmics - to be sexually abused by Nice Guy Offender Larry Nassar.

Simply put, since 2011 Louis Freeh knew, or should have known, how Nice Guy Offenders operate, failed to convey that knowledge to the public, actively concealed that critical knowledge from the nation at large, and chose not to inform the nation in favor of good publicity for his fledgling FSS investigative firm, to curry favor with the NCAA, thusly allowing Nassar to continue his crime spree with impunity.

For years.

Louis Freeh is responsible for abuse of these women and girls at the highest levels in US sport.
 
Between the michigan state cover-up and the number of U.S. gymnasts victimized, this should be a headline story nationally, if not internationally. It isn't because it's just michigan state, and there is no famous coach involved. Penn State and Joe shouldn't have strove to be so successful.
 
Between the michigan state cover-up and the number of U.S. gymnasts victimized, this should be a headline story nationally, if not internationally. It isn't because it's just michigan state, and there is no famous coach involved. Penn State and Joe shouldn't have strove to be so successful.

No famous coach?!? Bo knew!
 
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