For the sake of argument, let’s say Parris edges out Kerk at the Big Tens. Colton Schultz goes undefeated in the weak PAC-12 after missing matches vs BOTH Kerk AND Parris. Is Schultz seeded #2 ahead of both Kerk and Parris?
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If Parris beats Kerk and places 2nd at Big Tens… I bet he’s the 2 seed but then Schultz is prob 3 and Kerk goes on Gable’s side of the bracket.For the sake of argument, let’s say Parris edges out Kerk at the Big Tens. Colton Schultz goes undefeated in the weak PAC-12 after missing matches vs BOTH Kerk AND Parris. Is Schultz seeded #2 ahead of both Kerk and Parris?
That would be absolute BS.If Parris beats Kerk and places 2nd at Big Tens… I bet he’s the 2 seed but then Schultz is prob 3 and Kerk goes on Gable’s side of the bracket.
For the sake of discussion, let’s say Kerk beats Cass. Do you believe the committee rewards Schultz despite his missing Parris and Kerk?I wouldn't overlook Cassiopi. At Carver for Kerk's match he's still a player here.
Hard to say. By the time NCAAs roll around Kerk will likely have faced either Cass, or Parris again, maybe both. If he has two wins and keeps it close with Gable.....For the sake of discussion, let’s say Kerk beats Cass. Do you believe the committee rewards Schultz despite his missing Parris and Kerk?
At some point the seeding committee will have to put an end to this. I thought they have a couple of times now?Undefeated Schultz will be rewarded. History has shown it, and Zeke knows this. Keeping Schultz undefeated was his plan to keep him out of Gables side at NCAA.
Then again, When Kerk beats Gable at Big Tens, Schultz will get in Gables bracket anyway.
Why did you have to ruin my morning with your question?!For the sake of argument, let’s say Parris edges out Kerk at the Big Tens. Colton Schultz goes undefeated in the weak PAC-12 after missing matches vs BOTH Kerk AND Parris. Is Schultz seeded #2 ahead of both Kerk and Parris?
Imo, yes. Returning champ and to my knowledge he hasn't ducked anyone yet.How about if Dean runs the table does A.J get the 1 seed?
If he loses to Gable at bigs I hope he is the four. I want to see Kerk and Gable in the finals and Kerk will win that one just based on our coaching superiorityHard to say. By the time NCAAs roll around Kerk will likely have faced either Cass, or Parris again, maybe both. If he has two wins and keeps it close with Gable.....
I mean in this case a 2 seed and 3 seed are pretty close. Just avoid the 4 right?
I want to see Dean's bow and arrow against AJ. Let's see how flexing works for thatImo, yes. Returning champ and to my knowledge he hasn't ducked anyone yet.
Not sure you’ve thought this through. 1/4 will never meet in the finals.If he loses to Gable at bigs I hope he is the four. I want to see Kerk and Gable in the finals and Kerk will win that one just based on our coaching superiority
Am I crazy? Don't 1-4 meet in the Semis?If he loses to Gable at bigs I hope he is the four. I want to see Kerk and Gable in the finals and Kerk will win that one just based on our coaching superiority
Let him go ...he's on a rollAm I crazy? Don't 1-4 meet in the Semis?
Yes, if he has 3 losses and Schultz is unbeaten.For the sake of argument, let’s say Parris edges out Kerk at the Big Tens. Colton Schultz goes undefeated in the weak PAC-12 after missing matches vs BOTH Kerk AND Parris. Is Schultz seeded #2 ahead of both Kerk and Parris?
More important than 2 vs 3, to me, is that Zeke's move to have his boy miss Kerk and Parris could potentially be rewarded by the Seeding Committee. Seems ludicrous and needs to be addressed somehow.Yes, if he has 3 losses and Schultz is unbeaten.
Also 2 vs 3 does not matter at all -- there is Steveson, then the other 4 world champs, and then everybody else. Nobody will care about having to face the 6 vs 7 seed in the quarters, it's all about being opposite Steveson.
One hitch with Schultz: his last match this year is Jordan Wood. He will be favored but it's hardly a gimme. Wood won't get bullied around for 7 min, which is basically Schultz's MO.
And one hitch with Parris: he's the 4 seed at B10s if Cass beats Kerk.
The seeding committee should conduct a poll on BWI and use the results to determine the correct seeding.More important than 2 vs 3, to me, is that Zeke's move to have his boy miss Kerk and Parris could potentially be rewarded by the Seeding Committee. Seems ludicrous and needs to be addressed somehow.
Meh. Not your best effort. So you’d give Schultz the #2 in this hypothetical?The seeding committee should conduct a poll on BWI and use the results to determine the correct seeding.
At this moment in the time it should beMeh. Not your best effort. So you’d give Schultz the #2 in this hypothetical?
That's true only if he would've lost to both, which we'll never know.More important than 2 vs 3, to me, is that Zeke's move to have his boy miss Kerk and Parris could potentially be rewarded by the Seeding Committee. Seems ludicrous and needs to be addressed somehow.
I'd be a-OK with...At this moment in the time it should be
1. Steveson
2. Kerk
3. Parris
4. Schultz
5. Cass
Cass isn’t making the finals either way. If he loses in the quarters he will wrestle back to to at least the 5th place match but most likely the 3rd place match.I'd be a-OK with...
1. Stevenson
2. Kerk
3. Schultz
4. Parris
5. Cass
A Parris vs Cass QF sounds good to me.
I have to give you credit. That's a damn fine idea. I like it, now I need you to get busy promoting that. Start on HR, just for shits and giggles.The seeding committee should conduct a poll on BWI and use the results to determine the correct seeding.
A few over there probably believe this already happens.I have to give you credit. That's a damn fine idea. I like it, now I need you to get busy promoting that. Start on HR, just for shits and giggles.
Meant three sorryNot sure you’ve thought this through. 1/4 will never meet in the finals.
Then again, When Kerk beats Gable at Big Tens, Schultz will get in Gables bracket anyway.
The thing about crazy people is they don't know they are crazy. That's what makes them crazy
Yes, though Elam and Wood are on the horizon, and he may get Traub at PAC-12's. Lose any of those and his chances lessen.For the sake of argument, let’s say Parris edges out Kerk at the Big Tens. Colton Schultz goes undefeated in the weak PAC-12 after missing matches vs BOTH Kerk AND Parris. Is Schultz seeded #2 ahead of both Kerk and Parris?
Oh, no! Not an algorithm!There is an algorithm for this, but can’t check it now. I will say that Coaches Ranking and RPI play a part, which we won’t know until the final ones after conference tournaments.
Exactly. And exactly what Zeke knows. But…Zeke doesn’t know that Kerk is gonna beat Steveson and Colton is gonna meet Steveson in the semis anyway as the 2 and 3 seed.Yes, though Elam and Wood are on the horizon, and he may get Traub at PAC-12's. Lose any of those and his chances lessen.
The criteria starts with HTH, which didn't happen. Next are Quality Wins (B1G guys will have better and more), Coaches Rank (??? unknown), Conference Finish (Schultz's should be higher), Common Opponents (there will be none), Win % (??? right now) and RPI (will likely favor Schultz if he wins out).
It would be better to have this discussion after the regular season is over because so much can happen; we need more facts. I will say that Schultz beating both Elam and Wood surely gets him #2 if he wins the PAC-12 in the scenario that you present.