Title IX, the law itself, says nothing about limits on varsity scholarships. Schools could give every varsity athlete, male or female, a full scholarship and comply with Title IX. Guess why they don't?
Scotus/NCAA decision
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Title IX, the law itself, says nothing about limits on varsity scholarships. Schools could give every varsity athlete, male or female, a full scholarship and comply with Title IX. Guess why they don't?
Agreed. I would heartily endorse an NFL minor league where kids who don't want to go to college could play after HS to prep for the NFL. I probably wouldn't watch it, but it would return NCAA football to what it is supposed to be: college students competing against each other. Don't want to "play school"? Go to the minor league.
This model seems to work fine for hockey and baseball. Why not football?
I was a graduate student for five years. It is not indentured servitude at all.
Like any job, it is possible you have a bad boss (major professor/advisor). There is nothing stopping you from leaving that situation.
Yes, the pay is low, but the training/education is extremely valuable.
NCAA statement on U.S. Supreme Court decision
While today's decision preserves the lower court ruling, it also reaffirms the NCAA's authority to adopt reasonable rules and repeatedly notes that the NCAA remains
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NCAA statement on U.S. Supreme Court decision
While today's decision preserves the lower court ruling, it also reaffirms the NCAA's authority to adopt reasonable rules and repeatedly notes that the NCAA remains
Scott's doesn't manufacture in a year enough toilet paper to wipe up that announcement.
This is great in theory, but what motivation would the NFL have to drop their age requirements to help out the NCAA. To my knowledge, the NFL doesn't state you have to go to college, it just states you have to be 3 years out of high school. In theory, Trevor Lawrence could have bagged groceries for 3 years and still been eligible for the NFL draft.
One thing I have read but haven't seen discussed much is that even though NIL will likely allow athletes to profit from their name, image and likeness it will not supercede university copyrights. In other words, Trevor Lawrence could appear in on a billboard for a used car dealer, but he could not appear in his jersey or helmet or make use of university trademarks.
I think that may turn out to be a huge deal, especially for football. because not many players are recognizable out of uniform (beyond, "hey that guys is big, I bet he's a football player").
This needs clarification. Is the following a true statement?: “College players may appear in advertisements wearing their school’s jersey or helmet with the school’s permission?”
Probably. But I think the problem you run into here is the same problem you run into when the tiny high school in Montana gets sued by Notre Dame for using their logo: my understanding is that if you do not vigorously defend your copyrights, then you essentially lose the right to sue in the future. So if Notre Dame doesn't sue the tiny high school (or let's them use the logo for free), then anyone can then use the logo.
Maybe I'm explaining that poorly (or maybe I misunderstand), so if there is an attorney who wants to chime in, please do so.
I do not know if there is some stated exemption or legal loophole for "associated individuals making a profit from the university's trademarks". More likely it would seem that the licensing agreement (between the player and the advertiser) would have to include the university as a third party. That might make this less palatable to advertisers but who knows.
I think you're missing the point. The whole NIL thing is BS. It isn't actually going to be used for legit endorsements most of the time. What it is going to allow is for teams to offer "packages" to HS recruits.
So for example, you can have boosters guarantee jersey sales. If the jersey doesn't sell, booster X will buy enough to make sure player gets his 100k he's promised etc. X number of local car dealerships will pay for autograph sessions. It will all be just guaranteed money and find creative ways to do it.
He seems to be leaving the door wide open for another, more comprehensive lawsuit.
Yes, he has made it clear that whether or not this happens would be entirely up to NCAA.
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But can Clemson stop Trevor Lawrence from going to a local shirt print shop and getting a Clemson colored shirt with his number printed on it and appearing on said billboard.
I know I wouldn't recognize many college football players because unless they throw a graphic up with the players picture the only time I see them is with a helmet on. If I saw the PSU football starters and the PSU wrestling starters in groups I would get all 10 wrestlers names. Probably not more than 1 or 2 football players.
He's signalling, and not too subtly, the NCAA to capitulate. Anyone with 2 IQ points more than Remy would have done that some time ago
That marks the end of the student athlete. Period. They are now employees. For a few, this will be great. But this now makes every benefit subject to taxation. Including tuition. For many, if not most, now former student athletes, this will be a heavy burden.
Yes. If the shirt is a dead-ringer for a Clemson jersey, the school can sue the wearer (and the manufacturer), the owner of the billboard, and the producer of the product being advertised (and all of their grandmothers) for trademark infringement. That's usually why you see many athletes in commercials wearing jerseys that you would otherwise find in Africa or Latin America.
It was 9-0, now that we’re aware of the issues we can all say we aren’t surprised it’s come to this. I can’t remember who in particular was saying this but I know that posters here have been saying that it would eventually come to this and here we are. “I’ll take Foregone Conclusions for $1000, Alex.”
For decades the NCAA has been working in their very own bubble which they designed themselves. This change of procedure will be historic and there are going to be a ton of lawsuits going forward, that’s a fact.
For decades the NCAA has been working in their very own bubble which they designed themselves. This change of procedure will be historic and there are going to be a ton of lawsuits going forward, that’s a fact.
I'll step up and pat myself on the back. Doesn't take much to recognize the NCAA as a price fixing cartel.
It really is hard to fathom that seemingly nobody at the NCAA saw this coming. Some kind of preemptive and proactive reform might have been able to prevent this.
Im excited to see how this all plays out over the coming years.
Yes. I really dunno why they got so pigheaded, against all evidence. My career was in academe, where this sort of pigheadedness was commonplace, so it’s not as if I’m surprised.
That is a big part of it, but don't underestimate Don Remy's uncontrollable urge to make sure that Latham Watkins got greased.
This didn't take long.
Graduate Student Researchers At University Of California Seek Union Representation
It is certainly their right to try to do this. However, graduate students are a very unique category of part time employees. In fact, not all graduate students (even in STEM) are employees. Some are on fellowship; some are unpaid. This makes unionization problematic (IMHO)
Good thing PSU
You could probably list about 20 posters here. That Gorsuch opinion and the Kavanaugh warning shot read like something right off this board down to the very rationales given in the opinion(s).
It was 9-0, now that we’re aware of the issues we can all say we aren’t surprised it’s come to this. I can’t remember who in particular was saying this but I know that posters here have been saying that it would eventually come to this and here we are. “I’ll take Foregone Conclusions for $1000, Alex.”
For decades the NCAA has been working in their very own bubble which they designed themselves. This change of procedure will be historic and there are going to be a ton of lawsuits going forward, that’s a fact.
You could probably list about 20 posters here. That Gorsuch opinion and the Kavanaugh warning shot read like something right off this board down to the very rationales given in the opinion(s).
Personally, I think this ruling is great. It can easily be used to force athletes back into the classroom to get that additional compensation. The ncaa should be all for that. Should be.
The accompanying opinion piece, while not binding, should obliterate some of the draconian rules the ncaa uses to divert money away from the leeches and back towards the people who generate it. Should (lol).
The accompanying opinion piece, while not binding, should obliterate some of the draconian rules the ncaa uses to divert money away from the leeches and back towards the people who generate it. Should (lol).
You have a great sense of humor. After 116 posts most of which are astounded by the arrogance and stupidity of the NCAA and with the knowing compliance of their member institutions, you now hope that they do the right thing.
Students tried this when I was in graduate school at University of Illinois in the mid-‘90s. I didn’t give a shit. My priority was to do my research, get the f*ck out of there, and get a real job. I was too busy to take it to the streets and be bothered with union shit.
Want to bet the university allows it.....for a fee? Sure Trevor you can get paid $25,000 for an upstate car dealership ad in your Clemson uniform, but Clemson will need 20% of that as a fee for the uniform/ helmet/ logo rights.
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