Replacement Theory is now mainstream

erie lion

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Now about 1 in 3 US citizens believe in this racist nonsense led by Fox News and the Reoub party;

A 180-page online screed attributed to the white man accused of killing 10 people at a Tops Friendly Market in Buffalo on Saturday has brought a once-fringe white extremist conspiracy theory into the spotlight. But the underpinnings of the "great replacement" conspiracy theory, which has been iterated on over time to appeal to wider audiences, has penetrated a much more mainstream portion of American society. A recent poll, conducted by the Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research, found that one in three American adults now believes in a version of replacement theory.

The speed with which this false narrative has tipped into American discourse since a French ethnonationalist first coined the term roughly a decade ago has stunned even extremism experts who have tracked the spread of hate-filled ideologies. They cite the failure of major social media platforms to effectively moderate such content, the role of Fox News hosts in amplifying these ideas, and the uptake of the conspiracy's language by some elected Republican officials.

Demographic change​

Between 2010 and 2020, the percentage of Americans who identified as "white only" declined by more than 10 percent, from 72 to 62 percent. During that same decade, several Western European countries saw record influxes of migrants from Muslim nations. It is against the backdrop of this demographic change that replacement rhetoric has accelerated in recent years.

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"In the U.S., [it's] often called 'white genocide.' In Europe, [it's] called 'Eurabia,' " said Cynthia Miller-Idriss, professor and director of the Polarization and Extremism Research and Innovation Lab at American University.

The baseless theories claim that these population shifts are orchestrated by elite power holders. In the U.S., Miller-Idriss said white nationalists ascribe the plot to Jews who they believe are bringing in immigrants and promoting interracial marriage to suppress whites. In Europe, the false narrative blames elite politicians for a growing Muslim population. Miller-Idriss said the coining of the term "great replacement" in France marked a key moment in the growth of these beliefs.

"It has unified and really spread [the conspiracies] online in memes and videos and in a lot of propaganda," she said. "It capitalized on a moment when you're not just reading written propaganda or sharing it in a newsletter or in a small group in a backwoods militia. But it's circulating in these dark online spaces where this [alleged] Buffalo shooter writes he was exposed and radicalized."

From there, the conspiracy theories migrated toward progressively less fringe conservative media platforms, said Jonathan Greenblatt, CEO and national director of the Anti-Defamation League.

"We have literally watched as ideas that originate on white supremacist message boards, or like the dark web – the places that are very difficult to get to – move," said Greenblatt. "They literally jump to [internet message boards like] 4chan and 8chan, which are much more accessible, [then] they jump to web sites like The Daily Caller or Breitbart, and then they jump to Tucker Carlson's talking points or Laura Ingraham's talking points, or other AM radio DJs' talking points. And then you have theoretically mainstream Republican politicians repeating some of this stuff."

Carlson and Ingraham are Fox News hosts.

"Sanitizing" the message​

Although the roots of the "great replacement" are firmly planted in the organized white supremacist movement, a version of the baseless conspiracy has spread among a wider swath of Americans with some minor tweaking of language. Matthew Gertz, a senior fellow at Media Matters for America, said that Carlson has framed the issue around voter replacement.

"What he says is that the Democrats are importing immigrants and that they are replacing Americans," said Gertz. "But no one should really be confused by what he is trying to do. The specific cases that he's talking about are Central American immigrants, they are immigrants from Africa, they are immigrants from the Middle East."


Tucker Carlson speaks at a convention in Esztergom, Hungary on August 7, 2021.
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Greenblatt, whose organization has repeatedly called on Fox News to fire Carlson, said figures such as Carlson have sought language that might be palatable to more Americans. In moving away from white nationalist terms like "white genocide" and "Jewish cabal," they have repackaged the conspiracy as one driven by political partisanship.

"It has been an intentional effort ... to take these ideas and to try to sanitize them ... so they could bring their ideas into the mainstream," said Greenblatt.

Fox News declined to comment in response to questions from NPR about the role that critics say Carlson and Ingraham have played in stoking fears over replacement.

Greenblatt, Gertz and Miller-Idriss say claims of an orchestrated "immigrant invasion" have gained legitimacy through the endorsement of some elected Republicans, most notably former President Donald Trump. But they note that the messaging has continued after Trump left office.

"Elise Stefanik has pushed the same thing," said Gertz, referring to the third-highest ranking Republican in the U.S. House of Representatives. "This is moving steadily into mainstream Republican politics."

How to fight a pervasive conspiracy theory?​

The document believed to have been written by the suspected gunman in the Buffalo attack does not ascribe his radicalization to Fox News or rhetoric of politicians. Rather, he describes it as taking place on the same internet chat boards that were early to adopt the language of the racist "great replacement" conspiracy theory, such as 4chan.

"[Those are] still, I think, the spaces and places we should be most worried about," said Miller-Idriss.

Still, Miller-Idriss and other extremism experts say the mainstreaming of "replacement" theory remains alarming. Greenblatt said it isn't enough to condemn the violence, because speech that dehumanizes other people – whether Blacks, immigrants or Jews – can inspire violence.

"What I would suggest is that people in positions of authority, who have platforms, should use those platforms responsibly and call out this kind of ugliness and cease the incitement immediately because it's too dangerous to do otherwise," he said.

In the wake of the tragedy, much attention is focusing on whether stricter gun laws might have prevented it, the role of social media, whether the suspected gunman had a history of mental health problems, and whether law enforcement authorities missed early red flags.

"But all of that really doesn't make a difference if [individuals] in the end don't have a basic understanding of the legacy of racism, of structural racism [and of] systemic racism in this country," said Miller-Idriss.

She said that many young people observe the racial disparities in American society and will seek out answers to them. The document believed to be linked to the suspect pulls data from dubious online sources to support spurious claims of biological racism and crime rates.

"They may not be talking about it from good academic sources or good learning sources," Miller-Idriss said, "but they're going to be hearing about it in dark online spaces instead."

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junior1

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Charlottesville and the shooting in El Paso, Tree of Life.....
When you watch Fox you get a daily dose of RT.
Not sure what that has to do with the topic. There are always fringe groups on both left and right, black, white and brown..remember black panthers, ms13? All of a sudden white people are the singular greatest threat to our democracy?
Are you white? Should we be afraid of you and what you might do?
 

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The actual conspiracy theory is that there is a replacement conspiracy theory.
It's a fact and has been around since about 1910 in France. You can see it put forward on Fox and in sime MAGA- type Repubs in their writings, speeches, and campaign materials.
 

2lion70

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Not sure what that has to do with the topic. There are always fringe groups on both left and right, black, white and brown..remember black panthers, ms13? All of a sudden white people are the singular greatest threat to our democracy?
Are you white? Should we be afraid of you and what you might do?
The spate of mass shootings in the US have all been carried out by young white guys who have been radicalized by RT and other violent types like the guy from New Zealand.
I'm white, but don't buy into RT nonsense - that means you don't need to fear me.
Madison Cawthorne has even started talking about 'Dark MAGA' where even wimpy Repubs need to be done away with. Too many angry people that have only hate in their heart and a thirst for power.
 

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It's a fact and has been around since about 1910 in France. You can see it put forward on Fox and in sime MAGA- type Repubs in their writings, speeches, and campaign materials.

So a theory that you never heard of until two days ago is now mainstream?? You're always good for a laugh, 2Lyin.
 

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Now about 1 in 3 US citizens believe in this racist nonsense led by Fox News and the Reoub party;

A 180-page online screed attributed to the white man accused of killing 10 people at a Tops Friendly Market in Buffalo on Saturday has brought a once-fringe white extremist conspiracy theory into the spotlight. But the underpinnings of the "great replacement" conspiracy theory, which has been iterated on over time to appeal to wider audiences, has penetrated a much more mainstream portion of American society. A recent poll, conducted by the Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research, found that one in three American adults now believes in a version of replacement theory.

The speed with which this false narrative has tipped into American discourse since a French ethnonationalist first coined the term roughly a decade ago has stunned even extremism experts who have tracked the spread of hate-filled ideologies. They cite the failure of major social media platforms to effectively moderate such content, the role of Fox News hosts in amplifying these ideas, and the uptake of the conspiracy's language by some elected Republican officials.

Demographic change​

Between 2010 and 2020, the percentage of Americans who identified as "white only" declined by more than 10 percent, from 72 to 62 percent. During that same decade, several Western European countries saw record influxes of migrants from Muslim nations. It is against the backdrop of this demographic change that replacement rhetoric has accelerated in recent years.

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"In the U.S., [it's] often called 'white genocide.' In Europe, [it's] called 'Eurabia,' " said Cynthia Miller-Idriss, professor and director of the Polarization and Extremism Research and Innovation Lab at American University.

The baseless theories claim that these population shifts are orchestrated by elite power holders. In the U.S., Miller-Idriss said white nationalists ascribe the plot to Jews who they believe are bringing in immigrants and promoting interracial marriage to suppress whites. In Europe, the false narrative blames elite politicians for a growing Muslim population. Miller-Idriss said the coining of the term "great replacement" in France marked a key moment in the growth of these beliefs.

"It has unified and really spread [the conspiracies] online in memes and videos and in a lot of propaganda," she said. "It capitalized on a moment when you're not just reading written propaganda or sharing it in a newsletter or in a small group in a backwoods militia. But it's circulating in these dark online spaces where this [alleged] Buffalo shooter writes he was exposed and radicalized."

From there, the conspiracy theories migrated toward progressively less fringe conservative media platforms, said Jonathan Greenblatt, CEO and national director of the Anti-Defamation League.

"We have literally watched as ideas that originate on white supremacist message boards, or like the dark web – the places that are very difficult to get to – move," said Greenblatt. "They literally jump to [internet message boards like] 4chan and 8chan, which are much more accessible, [then] they jump to web sites like The Daily Caller or Breitbart, and then they jump to Tucker Carlson's talking points or Laura Ingraham's talking points, or other AM radio DJs' talking points. And then you have theoretically mainstream Republican politicians repeating some of this stuff."

Carlson and Ingraham are Fox News hosts.

"Sanitizing" the message​

Although the roots of the "great replacement" are firmly planted in the organized white supremacist movement, a version of the baseless conspiracy has spread among a wider swath of Americans with some minor tweaking of language. Matthew Gertz, a senior fellow at Media Matters for America, said that Carlson has framed the issue around voter replacement.

"What he says is that the Democrats are importing immigrants and that they are replacing Americans," said Gertz. "But no one should really be confused by what he is trying to do. The specific cases that he's talking about are Central American immigrants, they are immigrants from Africa, they are immigrants from the Middle East."


Tucker Carlson speaks at a convention in Esztergom, Hungary on August 7, 2021.
Janos Kummer/Getty Images
Greenblatt, whose organization has repeatedly called on Fox News to fire Carlson, said figures such as Carlson have sought language that might be palatable to more Americans. In moving away from white nationalist terms like "white genocide" and "Jewish cabal," they have repackaged the conspiracy as one driven by political partisanship.

"It has been an intentional effort ... to take these ideas and to try to sanitize them ... so they could bring their ideas into the mainstream," said Greenblatt.

Fox News declined to comment in response to questions from NPR about the role that critics say Carlson and Ingraham have played in stoking fears over replacement.

Greenblatt, Gertz and Miller-Idriss say claims of an orchestrated "immigrant invasion" have gained legitimacy through the endorsement of some elected Republicans, most notably former President Donald Trump. But they note that the messaging has continued after Trump left office.

"Elise Stefanik has pushed the same thing," said Gertz, referring to the third-highest ranking Republican in the U.S. House of Representatives. "This is moving steadily into mainstream Republican politics."

How to fight a pervasive conspiracy theory?​

The document believed to have been written by the suspected gunman in the Buffalo attack does not ascribe his radicalization to Fox News or rhetoric of politicians. Rather, he describes it as taking place on the same internet chat boards that were early to adopt the language of the racist "great replacement" conspiracy theory, such as 4chan.

"[Those are] still, I think, the spaces and places we should be most worried about," said Miller-Idriss.

Still, Miller-Idriss and other extremism experts say the mainstreaming of "replacement" theory remains alarming. Greenblatt said it isn't enough to condemn the violence, because speech that dehumanizes other people – whether Blacks, immigrants or Jews – can inspire violence.

"What I would suggest is that people in positions of authority, who have platforms, should use those platforms responsibly and call out this kind of ugliness and cease the incitement immediately because it's too dangerous to do otherwise," he said.

In the wake of the tragedy, much attention is focusing on whether stricter gun laws might have prevented it, the role of social media, whether the suspected gunman had a history of mental health problems, and whether law enforcement authorities missed early red flags.

"But all of that really doesn't make a difference if [individuals] in the end don't have a basic understanding of the legacy of racism, of structural racism [and of] systemic racism in this country," said Miller-Idriss.

She said that many young people observe the racial disparities in American society and will seek out answers to them. The document believed to be linked to the suspect pulls data from dubious online sources to support spurious claims of biological racism and crime rates.

"They may not be talking about it from good academic sources or good learning sources," Miller-Idriss said, "but they're going to be hearing about it in dark online spaces instead."

Dude, for many years your Party has been speaking out loud about its goal of importing a large population of ignorant, impoverished (and therefore easily controllable) people from Latin America and elsewhere. What do you think its policy of open borders is all about?

Still, the issue is more economic than racial, with the target being America's working class...of whatever color. Granted, this group is mostly white, but that's not the point, which is why Hispanics are also turning against Dem-Media big-time. In fact, here's one of Dem-Media's girlfriends Tweeting honestly about the real objective:


In addition, I've posted the below linked piece by Rod Dreher a couple times here. It pretty much blows your toxic fantasy out of the water. But naturally, as America crumbles, the Useful Idiots just keep reading from the assigned script.

That ticking sound you hear is the Karmic Clock, pal. Your Party's insane fabrications have badly hurt a lot of people. When the clock strikes midnight, the bill comes due...and as happened 30 years ago to that day's Empire of Lies called the Soviet Union, our own version of the Empire is going to collapse more quickly than can be imagined.

 

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It's a fact and has been around since about 1910 in France. You can see it put forward on Fox and in sime MAGA- type Repubs in their writings, speeches, and campaign materials.
Well.....it hasn't made its rounds to my neighborhood. Frankly, the real conspiracy theory is the spreading of this cs. And my friend, you are apart of it.
 
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Well.....it hasn't made its rounds to my neighborhood. Frankly, the real conspiracy theory is the spreading of this cs. And my friend, you are apart of it.
Exactly. The only folks pushing this nonsense is the left. It's on every left wing media and newspaper. That's when you know something is bullsh&t, when it only shows up on one side. And look who took the bait, again. Just like what the left is doing to Musk. Bunch of damn hypocrites.
 

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Maybe 1 out of a hundred thousand conservatives ever heard of it and even fewer would subscribe to it. Just another well devised political talking point by the left. Got it hand it to them though. They are masters of creating these issues.

Conservatives don't watch Tucker Carslon?
 

rumble_lion

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Dude, for many years your Party has been speaking out loud about its goal of importing a large population of ignorant, impoverished (and therefore easily controllable) people from Latin America and elsewhere. What do you think its policy of open borders is all about?

Still, the issue is more economic than racial, with the target being America's working class...of whatever color. Granted, this group is mostly white, but that's not the point, which is why Hispanics are also turning against Dem-Media big-time. In fact, here's one of Dem-Media's girlfriends Tweeting honestly about the real objective:



In addition, I've posted the below linked piece by Rod Dreher a couple times here. It pretty much blows your toxic fantasy out of the water. But naturally, as America crumbles, the Useful Idiots just keep reading from the assigned script.

That ticking sound you hear is the Karmic Clock, pal. Your Party's insane fabrications have badly hurt a lot of people. When the clock strikes midnight, the bill comes due...and as happened 30 years ago to that day's Empire of Lies called the Soviet Union, our own version of the Empire is going to collapse more quickly than can be imagined.


Well there go. I guess this stuff is mainstream!
 

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Well there go. I guess this stuff is mainstream!

"This stuff" is twisted by the Left.

The Left wants to make this "replacement theory" into a race issue.

Carlson and other conservatives (if you want to call them "mainstream") want to make this about what it is -- illegal immigration meant to dilute the will of the current electorate. Carlson even highlighted the Left saying this as their motive in a recent show.

So it is ONCE AGAIN a twist made by the Left to perpetuate a lie. This is what they do. The truth is not on their side. Their weapon is the lie ... delivered by a complicit and corrupted media.
 

rumble_lion

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"This stuff" is twisted by the Left.

The Left wants to make this "replacement theory" into a race issue.

Carlson and other conservatives (if you want to call them "mainstream") want to make this about what it is -- illegal immigration meant to dilute the will of the current electorate. Carlson even highlighted the Left saying this as their motive in a recent show.

So it is ONCE AGAIN a twist made by the Left to perpetuate a lie. This is what they do. The truth is not on their side. Their weapon is the lie ... delivered by a complicit and corrupted media.


Ding, ding. That's two so far.