Ray Blehar delivers another great blog post about McQueary and Corbett

[RussianEagle]

RE,
Geez, where to start.

Read this:
http://notpsu.blogspot.com/2016/11/evidence-supports-oag-decision-on.html

From the bottom up of your post.



Why would you think the OAG was familiar with anyone Jerry was associating with. They weren't investigating Jerry -- they were investigating Spanier. They didn't need a living, breathing Victim to make the case against PSU. As former AG Cohen stated, it wasn't important what McQueary saw. What is important is what he SAID he saw. The only thing that mattered was his report and what got done with it. The rest is history.




You obviously don't understand the concept of what a reliable witness is. AM isn't one. He is of no help for defending PSU...and, as you should have noticed, he was no help in defending Sandusky at his appeal. Geesh.



That is laughable. Essentially you are saying everything he said doesn't have to be accurate because it happened a long time ago. And, I'm sure you hold all the other victims to the same standard? Myers gave six different versions of his contact with Jerry -- 3 were that nothing happened and 4 were the opposite. He said he joined TSM in 7th grade, quit in 6th grade (both lies). And he couldn't come remotely close to drawing the locker room.

At this point there is no need to discuss this further because if you are willing to dismiss the fact that his drawing was completely innaccurate, then you possess overwhelming bias and lack common sense.

To be clear, if you found a $5,000 Rolex watch and posted an ad that you found an expensive watch and the owner needs to provide proof of ownership...and then some jagoff shows up and can't come even close to describing what the watch looks like...then says, "Well, I owned it a long time ago and forgot what it looked like."

Are you going to give him the watch? Of course, not.

Your watch analogy does not make sense. Of course men would come forward to try to grab a free expensive watch. However, Jerry Sandusky was already the most hated man in America when Allan Myers walked into Joe Amendola's office and gave the statement to Curtis Everhart exonerating Sandusky. What possible motivation would Myers have to make something up here?

Myers contradictory statements after Shubin flipped him are best explained by the fact that he knew nothing happened but he still wanted money. I'm sure he didn't want to be too explicit because was afraid of being called as a prosecution witness and risk perjuring himself, but he didn't want to continue to say nothing happened and risk not getting money from PSU.

Yes, I do not believe it is a big deal that Myers couldn't properly draw the shower layout. He had been there only a few times 10 years earlier. Heck, I don't remember the layout of the showers at the community pool or local YMCA I attended as I kid/teen, and I certainly spent more time there than Myers did at Lasch.

 

[RussianEagle]

I'll close this conversation by stating that knowing the identity of Victim 2 does not help PSU's case in the least. The only thing that will help to restore PSU's and Paterno's reputation is the exposure of (suppressed) exculpatory information that proves PSU made a report to the police and to Centre County CYS.

When will this exposure of suppressed exculpatory information that proves PSU made a report to the police and to Centre County CYS occur? And why haven't Tim Curley, Gary Schultz, or Graham Spanier claimed there was a report to the police and to Centre County CYS?

 

[nits74]

When will this exposure of suppressed exculpatory information that proves PSU made a report to the police and to Centre County CYS occur? And why haven't Tim Curley, Gary Schultz, or Graham Spanier claimed there was a report to the police and to Centre County CYS.

Who has it? And what evidence is there that it indeed exists?

 

[NealPaige]

Who has it? And what evidence is there that it indeed exists?

Saw McQueary on College Avenue this morning. For the life of me, don't understand how he can live in this town. Was wearing a Nittany Lions tee shirt. Not to judge, but I would have moved far away if I were him.

Man's got balls that I don't posess.

 

[Adlee73]

Just as a point of clarification/correction. Probst is pictured with Sandusky circa 2000 in the book Touched (and on my recent blog) He's not very tall in those pictures...barely to Sandusky's shoulder (if that) on the one on the right.

As I've said, McQ couldn't see into the shower. I doubt anything he says about the kid's age or height.

I'm pretty positive that photo was taken in the 90s Ray and you know darn well I've produced a photo from 2001 that shows how tall he is. He was easily past Sandusky's shoulders.

 

[indynittany]

Your point was refuted by the jury. There were 3 acquittals.

The most interesting of them is the indecent assault acquittal regarding Victim 5. Apparently, the jury was looking at the pattern of JS's abuse and realized that he never groped a kid the first time they showered together. Give the jury credit for that.

They also acquitted on ISDI in the V2 case because McQ said he couldn't see penetration. Correct.

And they also acquitted for indecent assault of V6 because he said Jerry didn't grope him. Correct.

Judge Cleland is really at fault for the convictions on the janitor incident. He allowed that other shower incidents could be used to corroborate that Petrosky saw what he saw. That was wrong.

Whatever JS is, he lost the presumption of innocence the minute JVP was fired.

 

[TenerHallTerror]

Saw McQueary on College Avenue this morning. For the life of me, don't understand how he can live in this town. Was wearing a Nittany Lions tee shirt. Not to judge, but I would have moved far away if I were him.

Man's got balls that I don't posess.

He keeps popping up on my Facebook "People You May Know" . . . wonder if I should send a friend request

 

[rmb297]

Whatever JS is, he lost the presumption of innocence the minute JVP was fired.

Like everyone else these days, he was assumed guilty when the charges and presentment were released. JVP was assumed guilty too

 

[lionville]

Saw McQueary on College Avenue this morning. For the life of me, don't understand how he can live in this town. Was wearing a Nittany Lions tee shirt. Not to judge, but I would have moved far away if I were him.

Man's got balls that I don't posess.

I just think he's too f'ing stupid to know any better. Anyone who tries to cheat his way into a US Open qualifier, baits deer, and sends pics of his dick to women he doesn't know can only be described as stupid. MM is stupid, which is probably one of his better qualities.

 

[BobPSU92]

Just like Woodward & Bernstein, she got her story from leaks.

DEEP. THROAT.

 

[marshall23]

DEEP. THROAT.

Thanks for saying what so many of us were thinking.

 

[rmb297]

Your watch analogy does not make sense. Of course men would come forward to try to grab a free expensive watch. However, Jerry Sandusky was already the most hated man in America when Allan Myers walked into Joe Amendola's office and gave the statement to Curtis Everhart exonerating Sandusky. What possible motivation would Myers have to make something up here?

Myers contradictory statements after Shubin flipped him are best explained by the fact that he knew nothing happened but he still wanted money. I'm sure he didn't want to be too explicit because was afraid of being called as a prosecution witness and risk perjuring himself, but he didn't want to continue to say nothing happened and risk not getting money from PSU.

Yes, I do not believe it is a big deal that Myers couldn't properly draw the shower layout. He had been there only a few times 10 years earlier. Heck, I don't remember the layout of the showers at the community pool or local YMCA I attended as I kid/teen, and I certainly spent more time there than Myers did at Lasch.

The watch analogy makes perfect sense because being a victim in this case was worth a lot of money. Perhaps not being able to draw the shower isn't important to you, but it was compelling evidence for Tom Farrell and Caroline Roberto and the OAG investigators. They decided that AM's failure to come REMOTELY CLOSE to drawing the locker room was the clincher. It's also significant to most people who understand how to evaluate evidence.

 

[Lattner]

Saw McQueary on College Avenue this morning. For the life of me, don't understand how he can live in this town. Was wearing a Nittany Lions tee shirt. Not to judge, but I would have moved far away if I were him.

Man's got balls that I don't posess.

He's got some things right.
A while back, McQueary said he and another man reached the woman first. McQueary climbed through the passenger side door, unbuckled her seat belt and helped pull her out of the vehicle, he said. She was bleeding significantly from a head wound, and McQueary and a few others comforted her until emergency personnel arrived, he said.

He said he felt assured that the woman was going to be fine before he left the scene and proceeded on his drive from State College to northern Virginia to meet his 7-year-old daughter.

"Thanks be to God," McQueary said. "You come upon something like that, and you're thinking it's not going to be good."


When speaking by phone early Thursday evening, McQueary reiterated that he was not seeking any accolades or positive publicity for helping in the crash.

"You don't think. You just try do the right thing," he said.

State police Sgt. Douglas Howell said the crash involved another motorist who reportedly lost control of his vehicle while driving too fast for conditions. That driver struck the SUV, causing it to spin, hit the median and flip upside down.

A police report was not available Thursday evening.

The elderly woman in the SUV did not suffer serious injuries, and no one in the other vehicle was hurt, Howell said.

McQueary admitted that he was recognized immediately by one of the other good Samaritans at the scene who posted a photo of the two on Facebook. McQueary was wearing a dark blue Penn State T-shirt.

The photo was posted by Dover Township's Adam Cataldi, a sergeant first class in the U.S. Army. He was driving eastbound on 581 toward Camp Hill when the crash occurred. He was attending to the woman's bleeding head when he recognized McQueary, he said.

Some bystanders carried over napkins and gauze pads, which Cataldi said he applied to the woman as McQueary held the victim's hand and assured her things would be OK.

Cataldi and McQueary helped paramedics get a neck brace on the victim and place her on a backboard and a stretcher before loading her into the ambulance, Cataldi said.

The two men were able to chat for a bit when they walked back to their own vehicles.

"He was telling me thank you, and I was telling him thank you and it was nice to meet him, " Cataldi said. "I told him I knew who he was and that I was a big fan of his and that was about the end of it."

"He told me I was a hero," said the 16-year Army veteran, "and I told him I thought he was with what he went through, and we each kind of played it off that we weren't heroes."

Of course, McQueary has become far more well-known beyond his 6-foot-4 frame and striking red hair and Penn State football pedigree.

He has been a consistent newsmaker far beyond Pennsylvania for his role in the Sandusky saga. He eventually won a whistleblower claim over his treatment by the university following Sandusky's arrest and Paterno's firing in November of 2011.

At the end of last month, a judge ruled that McQueary's lawyers should receive $1.7 million for their work on the case. That comes after a jury and a judge awarded him more than a combined $12 million in his lawsuit for defamation and misrepresentation.

While being vilified by some for not doing more to intercede in a 2001 shower incident involving Sandusky and a boy, McQueary said Thursday that, overall, he continues to be treated well by most people he meets, Penn State fans and otherwise.

 

[rmb297]

When will this exposure of suppressed exculpatory information that proves PSU made a report to the police and to Centre County CYS occur? And why haven't Tim Curley, Gary Schultz, or Graham Spanier claimed there was a report to the police and to Centre County CYS?

At the grand jury, Schultz made several claims that he believed a report was made to Centre County CYS. There is documentary evidence that it was made by PSU.

According to the Freeh Report (End Note 304), there is a document memorializing Schultz's request of Feb 12, 2001 to Tom Harmon regarding the 1998 police report. That evidence has never seen the light of day. Why hasn't that document been seen? There can be only one reason -- and that is because the document informs Harmon that there was another incident with Jerry. (That qualifies as a report to police)

The AG prosecuted Tim, Gary, and Graham it knew none of them made the report to CYS. But it also knew that PSU filed a report and that the report wasn't acted upon because CYS didn't know the name of the victim. The latter is a prerequisite for CYS to be able to conduct a protective services investigation.

I can't predict when or if this information will be made public but I do know that it exists.

 

[Zenophile]

And I've known who V2 was for many years.

Ray, may I presume that you're referring to JC/JB here?

 

[sluggo72]

At the grand jury, Schultz made several claims that he believed a report was made to Centre County CYS. There is documentary evidence that it was made by PSU.

According to the Freeh Report (End Note 304), there is a document memorializing Schultz's request of Feb 12, 2001 to Tom Harmon regarding the 1998 police report. That evidence has never seen the light of day. Why hasn't that document been seen? There can be only one reason -- and that is because the document informs Harmon that there was another incident with Jerry. (That qualifies as a report to police)

The AG prosecuted Tim, Gary, and Graham it knew none of them made the report to CYS. But it also knew that PSU filed a report and that the report wasn't acted upon because CYS didn't know the name of the victim. The latter is a prerequisite for CYS to be able to conduct a protective services investigation.

I can't predict when or if this information will be made public but I do know that it exists.

imo I think Tom Harmon was given that job. IIRC Schultz testified to this at another trial, and I think he was asked, something like 'who made the report' and at that point I think he got confused so it seemed no one made the report.

 

[Lattner]

When will this exposure of suppressed exculpatory information that proves PSU made a report to the police and to Centre County CYS occur? And why haven't Tim Curley, Gary Schultz, or Graham Spanier claimed there was a report to the police and to Centre County CYS?

Read the reports.
Blehar believes McQueary described a more ambiguous scene in 2001 and that, when he learned nine years later from detectives that Sandusky was under investigation for abusing children, he recalled something far more vivid. This would explain why McQueary and no one with whom he spoke in 2001 decided to contact authorities on their own, said Blehar, citing testimony of State College physician Jonathan Dranov, one of the first people McQueary spoke with that night.

Dranov, a mandatory reporter of abuse because he’s a doctor, has testified repeatedly that McQueary never said he witnessed a sex act. Instead, according to Dranov, McQueary described seeing a boy appear around a shower wall and an arm pull the boy back. McQueary described hearing “sexual sounds,” Dranov said, and then saw Sandusky leave the shower.

When detectives came asking, Blehar theorizes, McQueary unwittingly became part of a conspiracy engineered by former Pennsylvania governor Tom Corbett (R). As Pennsylvania attorney general, Corbett oversaw the early stages of the Sandusky investigation, and as governor, Corbett was a member of the Penn State board that forced out Spanier, the school’s president. Blehar points out Corbett accepted campaign donations from Second Mile board members and had feuded with Spanier over state funding.

While outlandish, such theories gained currency in Pennsylvania. In 2013, newly elected Attorney General Kathleen Kane (D), who suggested on the campaign trail that Corbett slow-walked the Sandusky investigation and donations from Second Mile officials played a role, appointed a special prosecutor to investigate the state’s Sandusky investigation.

The inquiry concluded politics played no role in the Sandusky investigation but also uncovered the fact that attorney general staffers – including Frank Fina, the prosecutor who led the Sandusky case – shared pornography via office email. The ensuing scandal, known in Pennsylvania as “Porngate,” tarnished several careers.

“No one involved with this case ever envisioned that taking a serial pedophile out of society was going to result in years’ worth of professional and personal attacks by people who are basically lunatics,” Fina said in a recent phone interview.

 

[rmb297]

Ray, with millions of dollars seemingly vanishing into thin air and awards and cars rumored, in you opinion, how and why did Raykovitz and co. skate?

Jake Corman

 

[Chris92]

The watch analogy makes perfect sense because being a victim in this case was worth a lot of money. Perhaps not being able to draw the shower isn't important to you, but it was compelling evidence for Tom Farrell and Caroline Roberto and the OAG investigators. They decided that AM's failure to come REMOTELY CLOSE to drawing the locker room was the clincher. It's also significant to most people who understand how to evaluate evidence.

Reread Petrosky's trial testimony and his description of the janitor incident. He described a locker room with 3 stalls. The support staff locker room has one. I'm not sure how this is any more credible than AM's drawing. The oddities around the janitor incident should have resulted in a mistrial.

 

[rmb297]

Reread Petrosky's trial testimony and his description of the janitor incident. He described a locker room with 3 stalls. The support staff locker room has one. I'm not sure how this is any more credible than AM's drawing. The oddities around the janitor incident should have resulted in a mistrial.

Unfortunately, Amendola and Romiger whiffed on the appeal of this incident. Had they appealed on the lack of a corroborating witness (as promised by Fina) , they might have gotten the verdicts overturned. I doubt they could have gotten a new trial, however.

 

[NealPaige]

He's got some things right.
A while back, McQueary said he and another man reached the woman first. McQueary climbed through the passenger side door, unbuckled her seat belt and helped pull her out of the vehicle, he said. She was bleeding significantly from a head wound, and McQueary and a few others comforted her until emergency personnel arrived, he said.

He said he felt assured that the woman was going to be fine before he left the scene and proceeded on his drive from State College to northern Virginia to meet his 7-year-old daughter.

"Thanks be to God," McQueary said. "You come upon something like that, and you're thinking it's not going to be good."


When speaking by phone early Thursday evening, McQueary reiterated that he was not seeking any accolades or positive publicity for helping in the crash.

"You don't think. You just try do the right thing," he said.

State police Sgt. Douglas Howell said the crash involved another motorist who reportedly lost control of his vehicle while driving too fast for conditions. That driver struck the SUV, causing it to spin, hit the median and flip upside down.

A police report was not available Thursday evening.

The elderly woman in the SUV did not suffer serious injuries, and no one in the other vehicle was hurt, Howell said.

McQueary admitted that he was recognized immediately by one of the other good Samaritans at the scene who posted a photo of the two on Facebook. McQueary was wearing a dark blue Penn State T-shirt.

The photo was posted by Dover Township's Adam Cataldi, a sergeant first class in the U.S. Army. He was driving eastbound on 581 toward Camp Hill when the crash occurred. He was attending to the woman's bleeding head when he recognized McQueary, he said.

Some bystanders carried over napkins and gauze pads, which Cataldi said he applied to the woman as McQueary held the victim's hand and assured her things would be OK.

Cataldi and McQueary helped paramedics get a neck brace on the victim and place her on a backboard and a stretcher before loading her into the ambulance, Cataldi said.

The two men were able to chat for a bit when they walked back to their own vehicles.

"He was telling me thank you, and I was telling him thank you and it was nice to meet him, " Cataldi said. "I told him I knew who he was and that I was a big fan of his and that was about the end of it."

"He told me I was a hero," said the 16-year Army veteran, "and I told him I thought he was with what he went through, and we each kind of played it off that we weren't heroes."

Of course, McQueary has become far more well-known beyond his 6-foot-4 frame and striking red hair and Penn State football pedigree.

He has been a consistent newsmaker far beyond Pennsylvania for his role in the Sandusky saga. He eventually won a whistleblower claim over his treatment by the university following Sandusky's arrest and Paterno's firing in November of 2011.

At the end of last month, a judge ruled that McQueary's lawyers should receive $1.7 million for their work on the case. That comes after a jury and a judge awarded him more than a combined $12 million in his lawsuit for defamation and misrepresentation.

While being vilified by some for not doing more to intercede in a 2001 shower incident involving Sandusky and a boy, McQueary said Thursday that, overall, he continues to be treated well by most people he meets, Penn State fans and otherwise.

What he did in this situation, and how he acted is no doubt, heroic. He deserves all praise for being a good citizen.

I just find it odd, that someone who just sued his own school for defamation, and is indelibly connected as a linchpin in bringing down JVP, would walk around that community wearing a Nittany Lions shirt. That's the same school he just fleeced for 12 million dollars.

I find it incredibly weird and inappropriate, but that's just me.

 

[RussianEagle]

The watch analogy makes perfect sense because being a victim in this case was worth a lot of money. Perhaps not being able to draw the shower isn't important to you, but it was compelling evidence for Tom Farrell and Caroline Roberto and the OAG investigators. They decided that AM's failure to come REMOTELY CLOSE to drawing the locker room was the clincher. It's also significant to most people who understand how to evaluate evidence.

The watch analogy makes sense regarding Allan Myers as a victim. I agree that he is a fraud accuser. What doesn’t make sense is why Myers would march into Amendolas office, claim to be the boy in the shower, and say they were just horsing around if Myers was not the actual boy in the shower. What was in it for him?

 

[Op2]

Maybe the answer is already somewhere in this thread and I didn't see it since it's too long for me to read, but whatever became of McQueary? What's he doing today?

 

[bkmtnittany1]

I won't be attending. Haven't spoke to Anthony or Wendy.

I saw Tim at the Special Olympics fundraiser on B-W weekend. He did look good an was also in good spirits.

OK Ray...no BS here...fishing Yellowstone in September...what flies do I need. Hitting the Firehole Rivers for 3 days...

 

[marshall23]

So it would be reasonable to assume that a certain state elected official used his considerable influence to provide a shield for TSM, its CEO, and its influential donors and directors,of which he was one.
The perfect diversion for this is to sue the NCAA and while they (NCAA) are battered into submission and taking the standing eight count, call off the hounds.

 

[RussianEagle]

Unfortunately, Amendola and Romiger whiffed on the appeal of this incident. Had they appealed on the lack of a corroborating witness (as promised by Fina) , they might have gotten the verdicts overturned. I doubt they could have gotten a new trial, however.

Ray,

It is my understanding that you are convinced the "janitor episode" is a complete hoax. I agree with you on that one. If it is indeed a hoax, I think there are some significant implications. If the OAG could coax Ronald Petrosky, who had no apparent financial incentive, to perjure himself and testify to a made-up story at the Sandusky trial; I think its reasonable to suggest Sandusky's accusers, who had huge financial incentives, may have likewise been coaxed into telling false stories.

 

[RussianEagle]

Ray, may I presume that you're referring to JC/JB here?

There is a Sandusky accuser with the initials J.C., also paid more than Allan Myers, who would have been exactly 10 years old in early 2001. However, I believe he claimed his abuse happened years later when he was in high school. Furthermore, the mother of his child went on Ziegler's podcast and claimed he was a complete fraud, stating that J.C. spent days ''rehearsing" what he was going to say at his claim hearing.

 

[Lattner]

Maybe the answer is already somewhere in this thread and I didn't see it since it's too long for me to read, but whatever became of McQueary? What's he doing today?

Dig this, amazing -
Judge Thomas Gavin ruled in favor of Mike McQueary's whistleblower claim, adding more than $5 million to the $7.3 million jury verdict for defamation and misrepresentation.

"Only when the 'Sandusky Matter' became public was Mr. McQueary subjected to disparate treatment and adverse employment consequences," Gavin wrote. He said the decision to order McQueary to keep out of athletic facilities after placing him on administrative leave with pay in November 2011 "was the equivalent of banishment."

The judge said McQueary was humiliated in several respects, including "being told to clean out his office in the presence of Penn State personnel, an action that suggests he had done something wrong and was not to be trusted."

Joe Paterno and to two high-ranking administrators that he had just seen Sandusky, at the time retired as the school's defensive football coach, sexually abusing a boy in a team shower. Those officials did not contact police, but when investigators began looking into new complaints about Sandusky nearly a decade later, someone suggested they interview McQueary.

McQueary has testified he heard sexually suggestive sounds when he went into the locker room late on a Friday night, then saw Sandusky abusing the boy in the shower. He did not physically intervene but said the two separated and he left the athletics facility, highly disturbed by what he had witnessed. He contacted Paterno the next morning.

Gavin concluded that Penn State retaliated against McQueary. He said the university has never publicly acknowledged that McQueary's reports to Paterno, athletic director Tim Curley and vice president Gary Schultz were done following the school's policy.

"Such recognition would have gone a long way toward reducing the opprobrium visited upon him and the resulting humiliation he suffered," Gavin wrote.

McQueary has been a particular target for criticism over the past five years as strong feelings about the Sandusky scandal have divided the university community. He has not been able to find a job, either in the coaching field or even entry-level retail positions. He had been making $140,000 as an assistant football coach. He was terminated when his contract expired in June 2012.

Sandusky was convicted of several crimes over the shower encounter McQueary witnessed, though he was acquitted of the most serious charge, involuntary deviate sexual intercourse.

A spokeswoman for Penn State said the school was reviewing its options. Messages left for McQueary and his lawyer, Elliot Strokoff, were not immediately returned.

McQueary's lawsuit included claims for defamation, misrepresentation and violations of legal protections for whistleblowers. Jurors in the trial, held last month in the courthouse near Penn State's campus, awarded him $7.3 million for defamation and misrepresentation.

Gavin's ruling, which pertained to the whistleblower part of the case, granted McQueary nearly $4 million in lost wages. The judge also said he felt the jury's decision was "insufficient and not binding," so he added $1 million in noneconomic damages.

McQueary will also get a bonus issued to other coaches for the Ticket City Bowl he missed after he was suspended, as well as his legal fees and costs.

Sandusky, 72, is serving 30 to 60 years in state prison and is pursuing appeals.

 

[marshall23]

http://www.bigtrial.net/2018/08/easy-money-in-sandusky-case-penn-state.html

 

[denniskembala]

Not exactly.
Without Pennlive the Ganim story would have been forgotten.
Add HBO movie consultant to CNN correspondent and Pulitzer Prize-winner Sara Ganim's already impressive resume.

The former PennLive and Patriot-News reporter who broke the Jerry Sandusky child sex abuse scandal wide open at the tender age of 23has a key role both behind the scenes and on-screen (in the form of actress Riley Keough) in HBO's new movie on the 2011 Penn State scandal entitled, "Paterno."

On one hand, the film, chronicles Paterno's Shakespearian downfall, including his unceremonious firing as head football coach just days after the Sandusky scandal expoded.

But the other half of the film is a journalism story, with Ganim at center stage.

The now-CNN correspondent in Washington, D.C., was a paid consultant on director Barry Levinson's production. After turning down many other Sandusky-related projects, Ganim said yes to Levinson and HBO because she believed they would be true to the "essence" of the story.

For Ganim that story has always began and ended with Sandusky's young, innocent victims.

"It is easy for people to forget about the victims," Ganim said in an interview with PennLive. "The story is only important because of them. I think HBO recognized that. There is no story without the victims. This wasn't just about the community or the football team. This was about victims, first and foremost."

That is the essence of pure Ganim bullshit. This was about taking down Paterno and Penn State and continuing to smear them to this day. The "movie" was a piece of fictional crap, like the witch hunt.

 

[LaJolla Lion]

That is the essence of pure Ganim bullshit. This was about taking down Paterno and Penn State and continuing to smear them to this day. The "movie" was a piece of fictional crap, like the witch hunt.

You're not talking to a person there, you know that.

 

[PSU2UNC]

After years of paper pushing back and forth..... the NCAA got their opportunity to depose Corman the week before Christmas 2014..... A few days later - Corman "settled" with the NCAA.

From the deposition of Jake Corman (in the suit v the NCAA)


This was the first Question and Answer (try to keep from LOLing - knowing what Jake Corman did):

Q. Okay. What do you hope to get out of the trial in this matter; in other words, what are you asking the court for?
A. Well, at this point, we're asking the court -- I guess, we're asking the court to rule on the validity of the consent decree.

Q. Okay. Why?
A. Well, personally, I mean, I'm a big believer that due process is important. And one of the things I always tried to maintain in this whole situation from the beginning is let's find out the facts, let's understand what the facts are and then make decisions based on those facts. And, you know, due process is important to me as a very important component of the basis of our country; that we have a right to, you know, go through a process to understand what guilt is and then decide at that point if penalties are necessary. So this trial hopefully will finally give some sort of due process to this whole matter, find out exactly what happened, how it happened and how decisions were arrived at. I mean, I think that sort of clarity is important.



The NCAA Attorney saved his heavy ammo for the last few minutes of the 1 1/2 hour long deposition.
Beginning at Page 108 of the Deposition:

Q: Okay. So you were a board member of the Second Mile from 2008 to sometime in 2012?
A. I think that's accurate. Somewhere in that area.

Q. Give or take?
A. Yeah.

Q. Okay. And when the grand jury presentment came out, did you know anything about the allegations?
A. I mean, nothing to do with -- well, it was in the Patriot News. So that story about Jerry Sandusky was there. I don't know -- the whole Penn State component was a surprise.

Q. Okay.
A. And the whole multiple victim was a surprise.

Q. Okay.
A. We had been informed, I think, through our leadership to Second Mile that there was this investigation going on. So, therefore, they took steps -- this happened all before I got there. They took steps to move Mr. Sandusky out the population at that point in time. So we were aware there was an investigation going on. We didn't realize anywhere the depth of it.

Q. So the Second Mile knew about allegations of Jerry Sandusky molesting children prior to your arrival in 2008?
A. Before my first board meeting, the head of the Second Mile, Mr. Raykovitz, came to me to inform me that this matter was going on, that there was investigation. To what level, we don't know and didn't know, but just that there was investigation into possible sexual assault by Mr. Sandusky, and that the steps they had taken to deal with that.

Q. Okay. And what steps had they taken?
A. Again, I think to remove Mr. Sandusky from the population of anyone at the Second Mile. At that time, he still attended a little bit of the fundraising kind of thing, but he did not participate in any of the activities with the kids, so he would not have any interaction with the kids.

Q. Did you review the steps that had been taken in your capacity as a board member and deem them sufficient?
A. Uh-hum.


Q. Yes?
A. Yes.

Q. Okay.
A. Sorry.

Q. You didn't think anything else needed to be done?
A. Well, again, we were flying in the dark here somewhat. But clearly, the fact that we knew that there was an investigation going on was concerning, and so that's why we wanted to make sure he was not involved with any of the participants in the camp or in the program, and then we, you know, waited for -- to hear more from -- from the investigation.

Q. You said there was an investigation when you arrived in 2008. Investigation by whom?
A. I -- I believe it was the Attorney General's Office at that point already. And I think, and I could be wrong here, that the information that they were getting, the board leadership at the Second Mile, was through Mr. Sandusky's attorney. We weren't being informed by prosecutors or anything of that nature. We were -- that Mr. Sandusky's attorney informed us of this investigation, so we took -- they took what they thought was the proper steps.

Q. At any time during your tenure on the Second Mile board, did you consider that the Second Mile ought to conduct some sort of investigation into Jerry Sandusky?
A. We were waiting for obviously the investigation to figure that the -- obviously, law enforcement had more resources ability to deal with it than we did. Like any other investigation, you wait to see what the results are and make the decisions from there.

Q. Looking back at your tenure on Second Mile with perfect hindsight, do you wish you did anything different as a director?
A. Gee, I don't know, not off the top of my head, no.

GARDNER: Well, I'll withdraw that. Why don't we go off the record for a few minutes and I'll see where I am.
THE VIDEOGRAPHER: We are now going off the video record. The time 1748

5 Minute Break



THE VIDEOGRAPHER: Back on 1754.

Q. Senator Corman, when you learned that Jerry Sandusky was under investigation in 2008 for child abuse, did you warn anybody at Penn State?
A. No. They were told that -- I think we were told that Penn State was informed as well. I could be incorrect, but I didn't warn anybody at Penn State.

Q. Who do you think told you that Penn State was warned?
A. It would have been leadership of the Second Mile. Jack was president. I'm not a hundred percent sure, but, no we were -- no.

Q. You don't know whether Penn State had been warned or not as you sit here today?
A. I do not.

Q. You personally did not do anything to warn Penn State?
A. I did not warn Penn State.


Q. All right. I don't have anything else.
MR. HAVERSTICK: I have no questions.
MS. DUBLICK: No questions.
MR. GARDNER: We're done.
THE VIDEOGRAPHER: That now concludes this video deposition and tape number two. The time is 1755.


END OF DEPOSITION.




A few days later - Corman "settled" with the NCAA.





It doesn't take a "Rocket Surgeon"




BTW: There is a plethora of very revealing stuff in the Deposition, including:

1)Jake claiming not to know the parameters of the "Endowment Act" - even though, as the NCAA Attorney pointed out, Jake was the Author of the Act.
2) Jake's acknowledgement of a back room deal with Barron to pay the $60 million fine - regardless of the disposition of the case.
3) Corman sharing hand-jobs with Paul Silvis (including sharing info from the ongoing "independent and confidential" Freeh Investigation)

In addition to the general evidence of Jake being "less than bright".

Is this deposition available to the public? If so, can you please provide a link? Thanks.

 

[Nittany Ziggy]

Corman sharing hand-jobs with Paul Silvis (including sharing info from the ongoing "independent and confidential" Freeh Investigation)

Now, that’s funny!

 

[NelsonMunce]

He's got some things right.
A while back, McQueary said he and another man reached the woman first. McQueary climbed through the passenger side door, unbuckled her seat belt and helped pull her out of the vehicle, he said. She was bleeding significantly from a head wound, and McQueary and a few others comforted her until emergency personnel arrived, he said.

He said he felt assured that the woman was going to be fine before he left the scene and proceeded on his drive from State College to northern Virginia to meet his 7-year-old daughter.

"Thanks be to God," McQueary said. "You come upon something like that, and you're thinking it's not going to be good."


When speaking by phone early Thursday evening, McQueary reiterated that he was not seeking any accolades or positive publicity for helping in the crash.

"You don't think. You just try do the right thing," he said.

State police Sgt. Douglas Howell said the crash involved another motorist who reportedly lost control of his vehicle while driving too fast for conditions. That driver struck the SUV, causing it to spin, hit the median and flip upside down.

A police report was not available Thursday evening.

The elderly woman in the SUV did not suffer serious injuries, and no one in the other vehicle was hurt, Howell said.

McQueary admitted that he was recognized immediately by one of the other good Samaritans at the scene who posted a photo of the two on Facebook. McQueary was wearing a dark blue Penn State T-shirt.

The photo was posted by Dover Township's Adam Cataldi, a sergeant first class in the U.S. Army. He was driving eastbound on 581 toward Camp Hill when the crash occurred. He was attending to the woman's bleeding head when he recognized McQueary, he said.

Some bystanders carried over napkins and gauze pads, which Cataldi said he applied to the woman as McQueary held the victim's hand and assured her things would be OK.

Cataldi and McQueary helped paramedics get a neck brace on the victim and place her on a backboard and a stretcher before loading her into the ambulance, Cataldi said.

The two men were able to chat for a bit when they walked back to their own vehicles.

"He was telling me thank you, and I was telling him thank you and it was nice to meet him, " Cataldi said. "I told him I knew who he was and that I was a big fan of his and that was about the end of it."

"He told me I was a hero," said the 16-year Army veteran, "and I told him I thought he was with what he went through, and we each kind of played it off that we weren't heroes."

Of course, McQueary has become far more well-known beyond his 6-foot-4 frame and striking red hair and Penn State football pedigree.

He has been a consistent newsmaker far beyond Pennsylvania for his role in the Sandusky saga. He eventually won a whistleblower claim over his treatment by the university following Sandusky's arrest and Paterno's firing in November of 2011.

At the end of last month, a judge ruled that McQueary's lawyers should receive $1.7 million for their work on the case. That comes after a jury and a judge awarded him more than a combined $12 million in his lawsuit for defamation and misrepresentation.

While being vilified by some for not doing more to intercede in a 2001 shower incident involving Sandusky and a boy, McQueary said Thursday that, overall, he continues to be treated well by most people he meets, Penn State fans and otherwise.

Another thing he 'got right' was connecting on that unnecessary TD pa$$ against Rutgers that got Joe got screamed at for by Graber back in the 90s. 'Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER'

 

[PSU2UNC]

https://ps4rs.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/corman-deposition-cormanvncaa-2014.pdf

Thanks, I missed that when it was first posted a few years back.

 

[rmb297]

The watch analogy makes sense regarding Allan Myers as a victim. I agree that he is a fraud accuser. What doesn’t make sense is why Myers would march into Amendolas office, claim to be the boy in the shower, and say they were just horsing around if Myers was not the actual boy in the shower. What was in it for him?

It seems that one of the common thread of the AM is Victim 2 -- all victims are liars crowd is that the timeline of the case is ignored.

Prior to November 11, 2011, Penn State had made no announcements regarding victim compensation. AM came forward on November 9th -- and I'm sure he regretted that two days later. Moreover,Victims 1, 3, 4, 5, 6, and 7 all came forward prior to PSU's overture -- but Sandusky's lame attorneys tried to argue that money was the incentive behind their accusations.

Stupid is as stupid does (quoting the mother of Forrest Gump).

Obviously, the eleven phone calls from the Sandusky had a lot to do with AM's "march into Amendola's office." Voicemail messages confirm Jerry asked him to come forward.

What was in it for him? Well, he already obtained a free car and a free truck out of his relationship with Jerry and TSM. But you seemingly believe there was nothing in it for him to come forward.

Newflash: Bridge for sale in Brooklyn!!!

 

[rmb297]

Ray,

It is my understanding that you are convinced the "janitor episode" is a complete hoax. I agree with you on that one. If it is indeed a hoax, I think there are some significant implications. If the OAG could coax Ronald Petrosky, who had no apparent financial incentive, to perjure himself and testify to a made-up story at the Sandusky trial; I think its reasonable to suggest Sandusky's accusers, who had huge financial incentives, may have likewise been coaxed into telling false stories.

See my recent reply to you. The timeline of the case defeats your thesis that Sandusky's (trial) accusers had huge financial incentives to give false stories to the police and the grand jury. And their trial testimony was consistent with what they told police end the grand jury.

The thesis only fits two victims/witnesses -- Victims 9 and 10.

I have no reservations that Victim 10 gave a false story to police and that his trial testimony was false in many respects. The jury had the most difficult time in believing Victim 10's testimony, but instead of identifying the things that didn't fit with the rest of the victims (e.g., no long term friendship with Jerry, lack of any grooming activity) the jury focused on the common things that V10 likely read from the grand jury presentment.

 

[rmb297]

OK Ray...no BS here...fishing Yellowstone in September...what flies do I need. Hitting the Firehole Rivers for 3 days...

I’ve never fished the Firehole or that part of Wyoming. Some of my friends have.

I’m heading to Montana to fish next week. Regardless, I don’t think you can go wrong fishing a hopper dropper combo in early September

 

[BUFFALO LION]

Perhaps you aren't aware of this, but the names of sex abuse victims aren't publicly released without their consent. Seems like a lot of people ignore that rule.

I don't.

And I've known who V2 was for many years.

My guess is you mean MK. Why are you protecting him if you think he is colluding with Myers to help Myers extort almost $ 7 million dollars from Penn State?

Do you think Myers has threatened him? Do you think he is in danger? How do you know he is not? And how do the police know he is not?

 

[marshall23]

See my recent reply to you. The timeline of the case defeats your thesis that Sandusky's (trial) accusers had huge financial incentives to give false stories to the police and the grand jury. And their trial testimony was consistent with what they told police end the grand jury.

The thesis only fits two victims/witnesses -- Victims 9 and 10.

I have no reservations that Victim 10 gave a false story to police and that his trial testimony was false in many respects. The jury had the most difficult time in believing Victim 10's testimony, but instead of identifying the things that didn't fit with the rest of the victims (e.g., no long term friendship with Jerry, lack of any grooming activity) the jury focused on the common things that V10 likely read from the grand jury presentment.

I have a hunch that the attorneys and others around those who claimed abuse knew there would be financial settlements. It appears V1s mother led off with $$ in her eyes. I don't think they needed an engraved invitation fro PSU.