That depth chart looks awesome. Frankly Penn State should be 7 point underdogs here instead of 3 point road favorites. https://www.ourlads.com/ncaa-football-depth-charts/depth-chart/purdue/91717
Purdue depth chart: Wow! Experienced team...
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Purdue recruiting the last 6 years...
'22 - 44th
'21 - 61st
'20 - 37th
'19 - 30th
'18 - 53rd
'17 - 68th
# of players drafted into the NFL over this time period - 9. (Penn State sent 8 in the previous draft)
Why are we the road favorite?
Because Purdue lost their top 3 WRs, and their high end DE. Because our worst recruiting class is better than their best.
Purdue hasn't had a 10 win season since 1979. Penn State has 3 since '16.
Sad part is, last year, their best under Brohm, they drew OSU from the East. Had they drawn Indiana, Rutgers, Maryland, Michigan, hell, even PSU, they might have won 10 games. The loss to Minnesota is a head scratcher.
Appreciate the conversation topic.
Perhaps maybe you could shed light on why a bunch of 4/5/6 year guys that the NFL isn't interested in should be the betting favorite?
Share your ticket stub. I'd place my bet NOW before the line moves.
'22 - 44th
'21 - 61st
'20 - 37th
'19 - 30th
'18 - 53rd
'17 - 68th
# of players drafted into the NFL over this time period - 9. (Penn State sent 8 in the previous draft)
Why are we the road favorite?
Because Purdue lost their top 3 WRs, and their high end DE. Because our worst recruiting class is better than their best.
Purdue hasn't had a 10 win season since 1979. Penn State has 3 since '16.
Sad part is, last year, their best under Brohm, they drew OSU from the East. Had they drawn Indiana, Rutgers, Maryland, Michigan, hell, even PSU, they might have won 10 games. The loss to Minnesota is a head scratcher.
Appreciate the conversation topic.
Perhaps maybe you could shed light on why a bunch of 4/5/6 year guys that the NFL isn't interested in should be the betting favorite?
Share your ticket stub. I'd place my bet NOW before the line moves.
Recruiting rankings are somewhat nonsensical. Tons of bias. Franklin's best class was his first when it comes to impact on the field. Franklin has also recruited massive holes into the roster due to his flawed recruiting philosophy and doesn't hire coaches to scheme around them or develop talent so a top ten class might as well be a top 30. Brohm on the other hand, recruits to fill need and develops talent so they are actually close to even talent wise.
Funny that if you follow the bluechip ratio, those teams tend to end up ranked or competing for the conference title. Yet, "tons of bias".
Brohm has developed a couple WRs, but 2 of the 3 he's sent to the league were considered blue chip recruits. His 9 players sent to the NFL disputes the claim he "develops talent". Develops them for what? His current claim to fame is his team has upset 3 top 5 teams the week after emotional victories while being double digit underdogs.
Aka, they were overlooked and ill prepared for by their opponent. Kudos to him.
Which season are we to be jealous over again? The 7-6, 6-7, the 4-8, the 2-4? Last year's 9-4 is his best there. Still didn't win the West with Wisconsin being below their mean even with a win vs Iowa.
LazyDave, You are debating with the two biggest Negative Ned's on this board and maybe in PSU football history. Don't you realize there are some fundamental principles....
-James Franklin is the worst coach by a wide margin in the B10
-None of our players fit "the system" he uses
-We recruit good athletes who are all lousy football players
-We will be lucky to win more than 6 games a season as long as Franklin is our coach
-Bill O'Brien is a great, great coach
-Christian Hackenberg was a guaranteed Canton lock until James Franklin singlehandedly ruined his career
-Trace McSorely is to blame for every loss PSU had while he started for PSU
-James Franklin always makes the wrong in-game decision, no matter what
-Even though we have high ranked recruiting classes, the players are really not that good and will not succeed at PSU because the aforementioned "system" is perpetually flawed
-We are doomed to mediocrity and worse as long as Franklin is the coach. When he does leave, all the above points still hold true just change the name of the coach.
- Joe Paterno never had any losing seasons and never made any mistakes as a football coach, ever
-The 2008 and 2011 (prior to scandal) PSU football teams were two of the greatest college football teams in history
Poster's note: To be clear.. I am NOT a fanboy for Franklin and he needs to significantly improve and deliver better results.
Huge pressure on Franklion in this game. Not on Brohm who can just let it fling and will with that QB. Should be a fun one but it will set the table for September. Jimmy Franks is Mr. September!
Ralph Baker, 1964
That's right, we're going Old School right here with Ralph Baker, a Penn State linebacker who was a sixth-round pick of the New York Jets in 1964. Baker, who played in 141 games, was a starting linebacker on the Jets' Super Bowl III team. Baker is considered one of the top linebackers in New York Jets' history.
Tom Shryock (93) of Missouri runs with the completed pass from quarterback Terry McMillan in the first period of Jan. 1, 1970 game in Miami, Florida. Making the stop for Penn State are Dennis Onkotz (35) and Jack Ham (33). (AP Photo)
Bob Flounders | bflounders@pennlive.com
That's right, we're going Old School right here with Ralph Baker, a Penn State linebacker who was a sixth-round pick of the New York Jets in 1964. Baker, who played in 141 games, was a starting linebacker on the Jets' Super Bowl III team. Baker is considered one of the top linebackers in New York Jets' history.
Tom Shryock (93) of Missouri runs with the completed pass from quarterback Terry McMillan in the first period of Jan. 1, 1970 game in Miami, Florida. Making the stop for Penn State are Dennis Onkotz (35) and Jack Ham (33). (AP Photo)
Bob Flounders | bflounders@pennlive.com
At PSU, most of their players play their best football when they are less experienced before they're coached down.
Check this: Blue-Chip Ratio 2022
It pretty much mirrors season rankings and results, especially at the top.
The difference in 50-65% and 65%-up is the quality of depth you have. The difference in a rebuild vs reloading.
Take a program like Kentucky. Stoops has done a great job there. He still doesn't have back to back 10 win seasons there. Nobody has (not even Bear Bryant). They develop guys very well, but that means when you lose a crop you don't have another dozen in the wings waiting.
Also allows them to overcome injuries or academic dropouts......when that used to happen🤔
20-22 in the big ten.......Wally's post er boy coach (next to BOB of course)
We do acknowledge Franklin did destroy him, right? Not saying Canton lock but Franklin-Hack was a horrible fit. Hack should have transferred.
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Are the '21 versions of these teams playing opening week of '22 season?
Here's a fact:
Penn State has won 9 in a row vs Purdue.
Strange fan. Constantly trying to put the team down you "supposedly" cheer for.
Na. The 21 version of Penn State was vastly more talented. Lost a great safety, a 2nd round linebacker, both defensive ends, 2 offensive linemen, and their best receiver by far. So, no unfortunately the 21 version of Penn State will not take the field.
Nobody predicted the '16 team to win the conference.
While I agree, the losses are huge (8 to the NFL, just 1 less than Purdue has sent there in 6 years), this is Purdue we are talking about.
If we were ranked top 5, then I might worry about a letdown.
Then they're not realists and are just defending Franklin because he's our coach
Kinda like this 70 year old child does foe Franklin over and over.
To clarify--this isn't even "anti-Franklin". Hack didn't fit what Franklin wants to do with his team. It was a bad situation from day 1 that wasn't anyone's fault. It's a shame for Hack that he couldn't have left without having to sit out. It is what it is now and Hack made a lot of bad decisions after leaving Penn State regarding his career.
I heard a rumor that Waynesburg College has a very experienced team coming back for the upcoming season.
Good thing PSU doesn't have to play them as well as the powerhouse Purdue team......
This thread is a joke.
Good thing PSU doesn't have to play them as well as the powerhouse Purdue team......
This thread is a joke.
Plenty of ready excuses for Purdue. But the biggest one is that they don't have nearly the talent on their roster that PSU does. That's more of just a fact, but you can use it as an excuse if you want.
But if you have more excuses for Purdue feel free to enlighten us. Now or in September.
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Come on now. You know they develop their players. Right? Lol
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