POST-MATCH THREAD: PSU Beats Iowa

[PD4thespawn]

Dean should send Iowa a bill for fixing Warner’s knee.

Isn't that what Matt does. Spinal adjustments

 

[RoarLions1]

Not at all. Spencer is an all timer. That's why I lead with the bar bet schtick.

Great to hear...just giving the other side, without the schtick.

 

[dunkej01]

 

[nitlion6]

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It's good for Iowa to have a rival they are competitive with.

 

[jmadden1998]

It's good for Iowa to have a rival they are competitive with.

You’re right. This one is a little lopsided

Iowa leads 28-11-2

1 1982 Iowa 34–9 State College
2 1984 Iowa 26–19 Iowa City
3 1984 Iowa 31–9 State College
4 1986 Iowa 35–5 Iowa City
5 1986 Penn State 27–15 State College
6 1988 Penn State 19–18 Iowa City
7 1988 Penn State 18–16 State College
8 1990 Iowa 22–5 Hampton, VA
9 1990 Iowa 36–3 Iowa City
10 1990 Iowa 32–6 State College
11 1991 Tie 19–19 Hampton, VA
12 1992 Iowa 30–11 Iowa City
13 1992 Tie 18–18 State College
14 1994 Iowa 29–15 Iowa City
15 1994 Iowa 24–15 Lincoln, NE
16 1994 Iowa 33–6 State College
17 1996 Iowa 28–6 Iowa City
18 1996 Iowa 22–15 State College
19 1998 Penn State 25–17 Iowa City
20 1998 Iowa 23–9 Iowa City
21 1999 Iowa 30–9 State College
22 2000 Iowa 22–9 Iowa City
23 2001 Iowa 33–10 State College
24 2002 Iowa 24–11 Iowa City
25 2003 Iowa 26–10 State College
26 2004 Iowa 23–11 Iowa City
27 2005 Iowa 23–16 State College
28 2006 Penn State 21–12 Iowa City
29 2007 Penn State 24–13 State College
30 2008 Iowa 27–13 Iowa City
31 2009 Iowa 31–6 State College
32 2010 Iowa 29–6 Iowa City
33 2011 Iowa 22–13 State College
34 2012 Penn State 22–12 State College
35 2013 Iowa 22–16 Iowa City
36 2014 Penn State 24–12 Iowa City
37 2015 Iowa 18–12 State College
38 2017 Penn State 26–11 Iowa City
39 2018 Penn State 28–13 State College
40 2020 Iowa 19–17 Iowa City
41 2022 Penn State 19–13 Iowa City

 

[El-Jefe]

You’re right. This one is a little lopsided

Iowa leads 28-11-2

1 1982 Iowa 34–9
2 1984 Iowa 26–19
3 1984 Iowa 31–9
4 1986 Iowa 35–5
5 1986 Penn State 27–15
6 1988 Penn State 19–18
7 1988 Penn State 18–16
8 1990 Iowa 22–5
9 1990 Iowa 36–3
10 1990 Iowa 32–6
11 1991 Tie 19–19
12 1992 Iowa 30–11
13 1992 Tie 18–18
14 1994 Iowa 29–15
15 1994 Iowa 24–15
16 1994 Iowa 33–6
17 1996 Iowa 28–6
18 1996 Iowa 22–15
19 1998 Penn State 25–17
20 1998 Iowa 23–9
21 1999 Iowa 30–9
22 2000 Iowa 22–9
23 2001 Iowa 33–10
24 2002 Iowa 24–11
25 2003 Iowa 26–10
26 2004 Iowa 23–11
27 2005 Iowa 23–16
28 2006 Penn State 21–12
29 2007 Penn State 24–13
30 2008 Iowa 27–13
31 2009 Iowa 31–6
32 2010 Iowa 29–6
33 2011 Iowa 22–13
34 2012 Penn State 22–12
35 2013 Iowa 22–16
36 2014 Penn State 24–12
37 2015 Iowa 18–12
38 2017 Penn State 26–11
39 2018 Penn State 28–13
40 2020 Iowa 19–17
41 2022 Penn State 19–13

We didn't miss Jammen that much.

 

[McScoreley]

You’re right. This one is a little lopsided

Iowa leads 28-11-2

1 1982 Iowa 34–9
2 1984 Iowa 26–19
3 1984 Iowa 31–9
4 1986 Iowa 35–5
5 1986 Penn State 27–15
6 1988 Penn State 19–18
7 1988 Penn State 18–16
8 1990 Iowa 22–5
9 1990 Iowa 36–3
10 1990 Iowa 32–6
11 1991 Tie 19–19
12 1992 Iowa 30–11
13 1992 Tie 18–18
14 1994 Iowa 29–15
15 1994 Iowa 24–15
16 1994 Iowa 33–6
17 1996 Iowa 28–6
18 1996 Iowa 22–15
19 1998 Penn State 25–17
20 1998 Iowa 23–9
21 1999 Iowa 30–9
22 2000 Iowa 22–9
23 2001 Iowa 33–10
24 2002 Iowa 24–11
25 2003 Iowa 26–10
26 2004 Iowa 23–11
27 2005 Iowa 23–16
28 2006 Penn State 21–12
29 2007 Penn State 24–13
30 2008 Iowa 27–13
31 2009 Iowa 31–6
32 2010 Iowa 29–6
33 2011 Iowa 22–13 (PSU W, we won the title)
34 2012 Penn State 22–12
35 2013 Iowa 22–16 (PSU W, we won the title)
36 2014 Penn State 24–12
37 2015 Iowa 18–12 (Doesn't count, we punted)
38 2017 Penn State 26–11
39 2018 Penn State 28–13
40 2020 Iowa 19–17 (Vacated due to disproportional home and away matches)
41 2022 Penn State 19–13

I made some changes for you

1. Wrestling was invented in 2010 so I crossed out everything before 2011.
2. Any dual win that doesn't coincide with the National Title is actually a loss
3. I took the liberty of vacating 2020 because you still owe us a home match and I don't think you're giving us two in a row
4. I thought about giving you 2015 but decided not to

PSU leads the series 7-0.

 

[Chickenman Testa]

Dean should send Iowa a bill for fixing Warner’s knee.

He broke the scar tissue - a necessary (but painful) way to aid the healing process

 

[PSU Mike]

I made some changes for you

1. Wrestling was invented in 2010 so I crossed out everything before 2011.
2. Any dual win that doesn't coincide with the National Title is actually a loss
3. I took the liberty of vacating 2020 because you still owe us a home match and I don't think you're giving us two in a row
4. I thought about giving you 2015 but decided not to

PSU leads the series 7-0.

I think it’s fair to deduct one from Iowa after 4,000 bottles rained down on our wrestlers this year. 😇

7 - (-1)

 

[mcpat]

You’re right. This one is a little lopsided

Iowa leads 28-11-2

1 1982 Iowa 34–9
2 1984 Iowa 26–19
3 1984 Iowa 31–9
4 1986 Iowa 35–5
5 1986 Penn State 27–15
6 1988 Penn State 19–18
7 1988 Penn State 18–16
8 1990 Iowa 22–5
9 1990 Iowa 36–3
10 1990 Iowa 32–6
11 1991 Tie 19–19
12 1992 Iowa 30–11
13 1992 Tie 18–18
14 1994 Iowa 29–15
15 1994 Iowa 24–15
16 1994 Iowa 33–6
17 1996 Iowa 28–6
18 1996 Iowa 22–15
19 1998 Penn State 25–17
20 1998 Iowa 23–9
21 1999 Iowa 30–9
22 2000 Iowa 22–9
23 2001 Iowa 33–10
24 2002 Iowa 24–11
25 2003 Iowa 26–10
26 2004 Iowa 23–11
27 2005 Iowa 23–16
28 2006 Penn State 21–12
29 2007 Penn State 24–13
30 2008 Iowa 27–13
31 2009 Iowa 31–6
32 2010 Iowa 29–6
33 2011 Iowa 22–13
34 2012 Penn State 22–12
35 2013 Iowa 22–16
36 2014 Penn State 24–12
37 2015 Iowa 18–12
38 2017 Penn State 26–11
39 2018 Penn State 28–13
40 2020 Iowa 19–17
41 2022 Penn State 19–13

Anything pre 1990, when the NCAA discovered Iowa was giving out too many scholarships, needs to be disregarded.

That being said, what Iowa was able to do after that while on scholarship restrictions is quite impressive.

 

[mcpat]

You’re right. This one is a little lopsided

Iowa leads 28-11-2

1 1982 Iowa 34–9
2 1984 Iowa 26–19
3 1984 Iowa 31–9
4 1986 Iowa 35–5
5 1986 Penn State 27–15
6 1988 Penn State 19–18
7 1988 Penn State 18–16
8 1990 Iowa 22–5
9 1990 Iowa 36–3
10 1990 Iowa 32–6
11 1991 Tie 19–19
12 1992 Iowa 30–11
13 1992 Tie 18–18
14 1994 Iowa 29–15
15 1994 Iowa 24–15
16 1994 Iowa 33–6
17 1996 Iowa 28–6
18 1996 Iowa 22–15
19 1998 Penn State 25–17
20 1998 Iowa 23–9
21 1999 Iowa 30–9
22 2000 Iowa 22–9
23 2001 Iowa 33–10
24 2002 Iowa 24–11
25 2003 Iowa 26–10
26 2004 Iowa 23–11
27 2005 Iowa 23–16
28 2006 Penn State 21–12
29 2007 Penn State 24–13
30 2008 Iowa 27–13
31 2009 Iowa 31–6
32 2010 Iowa 29–6
33 2011 Iowa 22–13
34 2012 Penn State 22–12
35 2013 Iowa 22–16
36 2014 Penn State 24–12
37 2015 Iowa 18–12
38 2017 Penn State 26–11
39 2018 Penn State 28–13
40 2020 Iowa 19–17
41 2022 Penn State 19–13

You post this on our board, and you are met with fun banter. I post on your board that PA has 11 Division 1 programs (in response to a post saying PA wasn’t thought of as having high level wrestling in the 90s) and they tell me to get off their board. I mean it wasn’t even a dis to Iowa or a post about Penn State.

 

[johnstownsteel]

You post this on our board, and you are met with fun banter. I post on your board that PA has 11 Division 1 programs (in response to a post saying PA wasn’t thought of as having high level wrestling in the 90s) and they tell me to get off their board. I mean it wasn’t even a dis to Iowa or a post about Penn State.

They don’t like each other over there they sure as hell aren’t gonna like some PSU fan. As Mike Z would say, grow thicker skin. Lol

 

[nitlion6]

You’re right. This one is a little lopsided

Iowa leads 28-11-2

1 1982 Iowa 34–9
2 1984 Iowa 26–19
3 1984 Iowa 31–9
4 1986 Iowa 35–5
5 1986 Penn State 27–15
6 1988 Penn State 19–18
7 1988 Penn State 18–16
8 1990 Iowa 22–5
9 1990 Iowa 36–3
10 1990 Iowa 32–6
11 1991 Tie 19–19
12 1992 Iowa 30–11
13 1992 Tie 18–18
14 1994 Iowa 29–15
15 1994 Iowa 24–15
16 1994 Iowa 33–6
17 1996 Iowa 28–6
18 1996 Iowa 22–15
19 1998 Penn State 25–17
20 1998 Iowa 23–9
21 1999 Iowa 30–9
22 2000 Iowa 22–9
23 2001 Iowa 33–10
24 2002 Iowa 24–11
25 2003 Iowa 26–10
26 2004 Iowa 23–11
27 2005 Iowa 23–16
28 2006 Penn State 21–12
29 2007 Penn State 24–13
30 2008 Iowa 27–13
31 2009 Iowa 31–6
32 2010 Iowa 29–6
33 2011 Iowa 22–13
34 2012 Penn State 22–12
35 2013 Iowa 22–16
36 2014 Penn State 24–12
37 2015 Iowa 18–12
38 2017 Penn State 26–11
39 2018 Penn State 28–13
40 2020 Iowa 19–17
41 2022 Penn State 19–13

Yet, this is the one that creates the most corn fed Hawk tears.
Just saying.

 

[mcpat]

You’re right. This one is a little lopsided

Iowa leads 28-11-2

1 1982 Iowa 34–9
2 1984 Iowa 26–19
3 1984 Iowa 31–9
4 1986 Iowa 35–5
5 1986 Penn State 27–15
6 1988 Penn State 19–18
7 1988 Penn State 18–16
8 1990 Iowa 22–5
9 1990 Iowa 36–3
10 1990 Iowa 32–6
11 1991 Tie 19–19
12 1992 Iowa 30–11
13 1992 Tie 18–18
14 1994 Iowa 29–15
15 1994 Iowa 24–15
16 1994 Iowa 33–6
17 1996 Iowa 28–6
18 1996 Iowa 22–15
19 1998 Penn State 25–17
20 1998 Iowa 23–9
21 1999 Iowa 30–9
22 2000 Iowa 22–9
23 2001 Iowa 33–10
24 2002 Iowa 24–11
25 2003 Iowa 26–10
26 2004 Iowa 23–11
27 2005 Iowa 23–16
28 2006 Penn State 21–12
29 2007 Penn State 24–13
30 2008 Iowa 27–13
31 2009 Iowa 31–6
32 2010 Iowa 29–6
33 2011 Iowa 22–13
34 2012 Penn State 22–12
35 2013 Iowa 22–16
36 2014 Penn State 24–12
37 2015 Iowa 18–12
38 2017 Penn State 26–11
39 2018 Penn State 28–13
40 2020 Iowa 19–17
41 2022 Penn State 19–13

Can you list the venue for each match?

2022.. at Iowa
2020… at Iowa
2018…. At PSU
2017… at Iowa
2015… at PSU
2013… at Iowa (December 2013)
2013… at Iowa (Feb 2013)

Looks like a 3 and 1 deal.

 

[jmadden1998]

Can you list the venue for each match?

2022.. at Iowa
2020… at Iowa
2018…. At PSU
2017… at Iowa
2015… at PSU
2013… at Iowa (December 2013)
2013… at Iowa (Feb 2013)

Looks like a 3 and 1 deal.

Just updated in the original post.

 

[tullfan68]

I listended to some radio show after the Iowa match 2 Iowa losers one was still drunk from the night of the match they had the f word flying every other word guess no kids listen to them.Anyway they both said how screwed every Iowa wrestler got by the refs and they acted liked Iowa should have all had tech falls LOL man did they suck

 

[WildTurk]

I listended to some radio show after the Iowa match 2 Iowa losers one was still drunk from the night of the match they had the f word flying every other word guess no kids listen to them.Anyway they both said how screwed every Iowa wrestler got by the refs and they acted liked Iowa should have all had tech falls LOL man did they suck

That was a great story

 

[Petch]

That was a great story

I liked it too!

 

[mcpat]

Hey 98lber… thank you.

 

[98lberEating2Lunches]

Hey 98lber… thank you.

You're welcome.

Reasonableness may only go so far on these boards. Although sometimes a response may appear unreasonable, it is probably equally unreasonable to expect everyone to read and follow all the different threads. Much of the time it is simply miscommunication.

I tend to give the benefit of the doubt... up to a point. Once I am subject to belligerent ad hominem attacks, I may regress to give it back in spades (vs use ignore). I consider this a self-indulgent vice. I probably should try to stick to the higher ground, but different approaches seem more effective in dealing with some.

 

[mcpat]

You're welcome.

Reasonableness may only go so far on these boards. Although sometimes a response may appear unreasonable, it is probably equally unreasonable to expect everyone to read and follow all the different threads. Much of the time it is simply miscommunication.

I tend to give the benefit of the doubt... up to a point. Once I am subject to belligerent ad hominem attacks, I may regress to give it back in spades (vs use ignore). I consider this an self-indulgent vice. I probably should try to stick to the higher ground, but different approaches seem more effective in dealing with some.

I’m still new to posting and it’s definitely been a learning process. I wouldn’t post today some of what I was posting a couple weeks ago. Correcting the record is like fighting the Borg. I did note that the person over there that is telling me off does this regularly to lots of people. Seems like that’s his thing.

I appreciate the support.

 

[98lberEating2Lunches]

I’m still new to posting and it’s definitely been a learning process. I wouldn’t post today some of what I was posting a couple weeks ago. Correcting the record is like fighting the Borg. I did note that the person over there that is telling me off does this regularly to lots of people. Seems like that’s his thing.

I appreciate the support.

Live and learn. Factor in the potential for toxic masculinity to affect your enjoyment. Not backing down and giving it as you get it seems to me an expectation on some boards more than others. Remember it is ok to fail, just try to fail forward fast.

 

[backdrft76]

Hey 98lber… thank you.

Link? (or Cliff notes version)?

 

[mcpat]

Link? (or Cliff notes version)?

I’m still catching flak for what I thought was interesting more than two weeks ago. This time from someone that, based on my limited research, appears to be their Board’s bully (or one of them anyway). 98lber defended me. I promise that I didn’t bring it up again; I was really hoping it would die a lonely, forgotten death.

 

[dunkej01]

I’m still new to posting and it’s definitely been a learning process. I wouldn’t post today some of what I was posting a couple weeks ago. Correcting the record is like fighting the Borg. I did note that the person over there that is telling me off does this regularly to lots of people. Seems like that’s his thing.

I appreciate the support.

if you care what any of the folks think your losing.

post for yourself and this becomes more enjoyable.

People that you cant stand ignore.

add those to the rules i noted during iowa week.

 

[dunkej01]

I’m still catching flak for what I thought was interesting more than two weeks ago. This time from someone that, based on my limited research, appears to be their Board’s bully (or one of them anyway). 98lber defended me. I promise that I didn’t bring it up again; I was really hoping it would die a lonely, forgotten death.

they are working you. if they smell blood they will use that. Pay it no mind.

 

[nitlion6]

I’m still catching flak for what I thought was interesting more than two weeks ago. This time from someone that, based on my limited research, appears to be their Board’s bully (or one of them anyway). 98lber defended me. I promise that I didn’t bring it up again; I was really hoping it would die a lonely, forgotten death.

Quit giving a shit what a bunch of clowns spew at you. As Dunkej01 pointed out, post what you want to post. If someone engages you in a manner that interests you, have conversation. If someone chooses to be a dick, f@#k'em. You aren't responsible for genuflecting or attempting appeasement.

 

[johnstownsteel]

I’m still new to posting and it’s definitely been a learning process. I wouldn’t post today some of what I was posting a couple weeks ago. Correcting the record is like fighting the Borg. I did note that the person over there that is telling me off does this regularly to lots of people. Seems like that’s his thing.

I appreciate the support.

Keep your head up and pound away over there. I’m enjoying my retirement from HR. Don’t make me have to go back.

Now go get ‘em killer. ..

 

[RoarLions1]

Keep your head up and pound away over there. I’m enjoying my retirement from HR. Don’t make me have to go back.

Now go get ‘em killer. ..

Now that's funny 🤣.

 

[mcpat]

According to one poster on HR, Kolat wasn’t on Gable’s radar because PA high school wrestling didn’t have the reputation it has today.

I guess the weakness of PA wrestling in the late 80s and early 90s was too much to overcome placing twice at the Midlands, winning cadet world silver, taking 4th at US Senior nationals, winning I don’t know how many junior national championships and being OW every time, etc., all while in high school.

 

[ZepGraffiti]

According to one poster on HR, Kolat wasn’t on Gable’s radar because PA high school wrestling didn’t have the reputation it has today.

I guess the weakness of PA wrestling in the late 80s and early 90s was too much to overcome placing twice at the Midlands, winning cadet world silver, taking 4th at US Senior nationals, winning I don’t know how many junior national championships and being OW every time, etc., all while in high school.

Must think the Dapper Dan started 10 years ago

 

[CJFisJoePaII]

According to one poster on HR, Kolat wasn’t on Gable’s radar because PA high school wrestling didn’t have the reputation it has today.

I guess the weakness of PA wrestling in the late 80s and early 90s was too much to overcome placing twice at the Midlands, winning cadet world silver, taking 4th at US Senior nationals, winning I don’t know how many junior national championships and being OW every time, etc., all while in high school.

Strange how PA-bred wrestlers dominated NCAA Chapionships (i.e., All-American placements) during the late 80s and early 90s..... and for decades before that. Very weird.

 

[mcpat]

According to one poster on HR, Kolat wasn’t on Gable’s radar because PA high school wrestling didn’t have the reputation it has today.

I guess the weakness of PA wrestling in the late 80s and early 90s was too much to overcome placing twice at the Midlands, winning cadet world silver, taking 4th at US Senior nationals, winning I don’t know how many junior national championships and being OW every time, etc., all while in high school.

I have some of these accolades wrong. Point still valid regardless.

 

[STAND with PRIDE]

Must think the Dapper Dan started 10 years ago

Intentional?

 

[dunkej01]

According to one poster on HR, Kolat wasn’t on Gable’s radar because PA high school wrestling didn’t have the reputation it has today.

I guess the weakness of PA wrestling in the late 80s and early 90s was too much to overcome placing twice at the Midlands, winning cadet world silver, taking 4th at US Senior nationals, winning I don’t know how many junior national championships and being OW every time, etc., all while in high school.

Dan gable came to central PA in 1989 to recruit. I can assure you he knew about PA wrestling.

 

[El-Jefe]

Dan gable came to central PA in 1989 to recruit. I can assure you he knew about PA wrestling.

And even if he didn't, he absolutely noticed Kolat placing twice while in high school at the Iowa December National Title Tournament in Evanston. Only an idiot or HR poster, but I repeat myself, would think otherwise.

 

[nitlion6]

According to one poster on HR, Kolat wasn’t on Gable’s radar because PA high school wrestling didn’t have the reputation it has today.

I guess the weakness of PA wrestling in the late 80s and early 90s was too much to overcome placing twice at the Midlands, winning cadet world silver, taking 4th at US Senior nationals, winning I don’t know how many junior national championships and being OW every time, etc., all while in high school.

Gable did not have great luck with his PA recruits. Steve Maurey never accomplished anything at Iowa, Ray Briziner AAed but did not become what I am sure Gable envisioned, plus he was extremely eccentric. He had a third PA recruit but I do not remember who it was.

With that said, Gable very much tried to recruit Kolat and Kolat very strongly considered the Hawks. Fritz did an unbelievable job developing a relationship with recruit Kolat.

 

[nitlion6]

Dan gable came to central PA in 1989 to recruit. I can assure you he knew about PA wrestling.

Bubb had Gable as a guest camp instructor at least twice.

 

[mcpat]

Dan gable came to central PA in 1989 to recruit. I can assure you he knew about PA wrestling.

Impossible. He didn’t visit me.

 

[El-Jefe]

For clarity: Dunk is talking about Shik 2x state champ Jeff Walter, who won NCAA HWT at Wisconsin.