Hallelujah Ceasar! The Nit Nation should expect to win and when we don’t we need to be pissed just like all elite programs....
Plenty of OSU fans predicting blowout
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I have a feeling that Psu has been holding back some defensive formations.Micah Parsons meet Dwayne Haskins.Watching him run down the Illinois qb in the second half gives you an idea how fast he is.
You mean I've been wasting my time?
Son of a.....
Their history so far of making more stops and creating more turnovers than our defense. I have no doubts that we will move the ball and score points. That’s not the problem IMO.
I'd say Haskins is a big reason for the optimism.
76% completions...16 TDs/1 Interception.
We haven't had a passing QB like this. We've always had the running game. But when that struggled, we rarely could pass our way out of it.
The defense is another story, giving up chunk plays.
Haskins has very good numbers, but against Rutgers, Tulane and Oregon State. In the TCU game, your D was responsible for a large chunk of your points.
Speaking as a Buckeye;
I would think the odds of tOSU blowing out PSU are super low. I COULD see it happening, but like 5% chance. I think the more likely Buckeye-win-scenario is a game where we win by 10-14 points, and don't lock it down until sometime mid-late 4th quarter.... or something akin to the last few years where it's a <3 game.
The OSU offense is arguably the best in my lifetime (born 1985). Haskins is on par to set tOSU passing yards and TD's single season records at OSU... in ten or eleven games. The Buckeye offense is going to score points, and while I wouldn't put a turnover in the impossible column, if you're banking on beating us from offensive turnovers you'll likely be disappointed.
For PSU to win they need to take advantage of our very suspect linebacker play. Short passes into the middle, and successful running back play. If you depend too much on McSorley passing downfield the solid-secondary paired with brutal pass rush (even without Bosa there are probably 2 first round picks on that d-line) will eventually make you pay. I believe someone earlier called it right; PSU will need sustained long drives that take advantage of our linebackers and keep our offense off the field. If you try to get into a horse race and chuck it down field for fast scores every drive, your odds of winning are going to drop tremendously.
Either way hoping for a great game. I think these are the two best teams in the conference this year, and PSU is easily (IMO) the best team on our schedule.
I would think the odds of tOSU blowing out PSU are super low. I COULD see it happening, but like 5% chance. I think the more likely Buckeye-win-scenario is a game where we win by 10-14 points, and don't lock it down until sometime mid-late 4th quarter.... or something akin to the last few years where it's a <3 game.
The OSU offense is arguably the best in my lifetime (born 1985). Haskins is on par to set tOSU passing yards and TD's single season records at OSU... in ten or eleven games. The Buckeye offense is going to score points, and while I wouldn't put a turnover in the impossible column, if you're banking on beating us from offensive turnovers you'll likely be disappointed.
For PSU to win they need to take advantage of our very suspect linebacker play. Short passes into the middle, and successful running back play. If you depend too much on McSorley passing downfield the solid-secondary paired with brutal pass rush (even without Bosa there are probably 2 first round picks on that d-line) will eventually make you pay. I believe someone earlier called it right; PSU will need sustained long drives that take advantage of our linebackers and keep our offense off the field. If you try to get into a horse race and chuck it down field for fast scores every drive, your odds of winning are going to drop tremendously.
Either way hoping for a great game. I think these are the two best teams in the conference this year, and PSU is easily (IMO) the best team on our schedule.
Well said....we tend to dwell on the negatives all the time while other fan bases look at the positives. If we don’t believe in our team, why should anyone else?
But too soon to be annointing them the best in your lifetime. They haven’t played anyone.
I'll grant you most of the competition is sub-par; but trust us... Haskins is the real deal. I've been watching the Buckeyes since the mid 90's and he is easily the best passer we've had in that time. Even TCU he still went 63% with ~350 yards and 2 TD's. He may not be the best overall QB we've had in the last X years, but that arm.
Those numbers would be good vs. air. And he hasn't played a lot in 2 of the halves.
He has a huge arm and great accuracy.
Obviously the numbers won't be quite as gaudy vs. better defenses.
He threw for 350 against TCU.
That's where the arguably comes in. They definitely look the part. In years past where tOSU has turned out to be one of the best offenses, they didn't put up these kinds of passing #'s in the early tune-ups. IF (and it is definitely an IF) they keep this up.... Buckeye fans will be talking about this offense for years to come.
The last 2 years I was a lot more confident in this game. I’m concerned our defense may have trouble getting off of the field. Haskins has been lights out and getting pressure has been an issue. A 14-20 point loss is most realistic unfortunately.
Now if we are +2 or better in the turnover battle and Trace plays lights out we can win the shootout but I feel that’s what it’s going to take. I just don’t know if PSU is there as a program yet. It’s obvious on the roster talent that it won’t be very long though! Therefore I’m ok with it.
Now if we are +2 or better in the turnover battle and Trace plays lights out we can win the shootout but I feel that’s what it’s going to take. I just don’t know if PSU is there as a program yet. It’s obvious on the roster talent that it won’t be very long though! Therefore I’m ok with it.
This is kind of the way I see it. We will get lots of points but will get stopped occasionally, probably trying to throw it deep unsuccessfully or getting sacked. On the other side, we won't stop them defensively nearly as much as they are able to stop us.
Anything could happen though -- some defensive stars suddenly align and we make some stops/turnovers. Light bulb goes on in some young guys, etc.
I agree with the poster that said we should attack their linebackers in the short middle. Rahne laid out the right plays at the start of the Illinois game. It worked well except for the fluke helmet to the ball and fumble. Why he got away from this I'm not sure. Hope we see those types of plays again for this game.
I wouldn't know where to begin on the defensive side. Haven't re-watched the game yet, but I will.
I can see 4 and 7 whiffing on Dixon and Campbell on those wide receiver screens about 7 times. Every one of those plays might go for touchdowns.
I was thinking about that play where he tackled the QB at the sideline. It was after the game was in hand, and this wasn’t Michael Vick, but he really closed on a pretty athletic guy, and finished when he could have let him run out of bounds with a little push. I don’t think he has the instincts of an elite LB just yet, but he is going to be a great player for Penn State.
Great insight into the psyche of a fan base. Unfortunately I am in the group of fans cringing about our deficiencies, rather than our strengths! Thanks for the post reminding me of my insecurity...I think
Final score psu 51 osu 48. A shootout we can stay with any team and osu defense has been shredded so far, they are young and inexperienced. I actually think Haskins will struggle with the noise and environment. It is his first time in a place where it is not friendly and all the pressure of a big game is on him. If he does then we win 51-31. There is said it!
Thought never seen day where where PSU fans would say the team needs 40 to 50 points to win a game. I really do miss watching a dominate defense.
But I don’t miss watching a boring offense that basically shut down once we got in FG range.
I think a good TCU defense, essentially at home, left it all on the table in a high profile Saturday night game, and OSU still scored 40 on them. TCU comes out flat the week after and loses to Texas. No surprise.
People are saying TCU lost to Texas, so the OSU win wasn't that great. Not sure I buy the logic. The state of the team is a big factor, and that gets influenced by what happened the week before.
If the TCU defense gives up 40 what makes you think our defense holds them to just 10 in the second half? Loud, white stadium?
If our defense does do some things to keep it close by the half, OSU certainly has the staff to make the adjustments at half time and score more than 10. They put up 20 in the 3rd against TCU.
When has tcu ever had a good defense. What a joke . I laughed when the commentators were saying that. They didn’t come out flat against Texas since they are in the same division they knew the stakes of a
Division win or loss . Osu is overrated! Now we need to play a solid game and get the win!
Division win or loss . Osu is overrated! Now we need to play a solid game and get the win!
Possibly Caesar but I would counter that most of us on the BWI Board who discuss football (you, me and a few dozen on the premium board during weekdays) tend to call it as we see it. If we assesss the other squad’s experience, depth chart etc. and determine a loss is coming we say it. Conversely, I’ve never met a Michigan fan, for example, that has said they won’t win a game. We even joke that our own Nate is the only rivals guy who will pick against his home team. FWIW, I think it’s always been that way among PSU fans.
if you just look at how our DEF has played against 4 pretty average to weak teams, it would appear that tOSU will easily score on more than 50% of their possessions. i could see them scoring somewhere in the range of 49-63 pts. it will be a track meet if we can pass consistently. It is hard to see us running the ball without a pass game.
TCU defense gave up 26. OSU had two defensive scores. You can say TCU has the best defense in the Big 12, but that doesn’t make them an elite defense.
Something about a Whiteout makes Urban coach scared. Instead of playing to win, he plays not to lose. He did it in both ‘14 and ‘16. I think it could be a comeback win for the good guys.
I agree. I think Penn State’s defense is better than TCU’s. But it wasn’t defense that cost TCU that game, it was the turnovers.
TCU's defense only gave up 26 points. Sac, fumble in endzone and a pick 6 shovel pass accounted for the other 2 TDs. The surrender cobras were coming out among the OSU fans in the stadium until TCU imploded.
Lotta people here afraid of osu. Talent level is on par... coaching is on par. This is gonna be a good game. Home field is a huge advantage. Stop living in the past and get the osu boogyman out of your heads. I swear, some of you think we would never beat osu. People here think osu is on par with saban era Bama, osu is about 10 rungs down the ladder from matching what Bama has done.
Good point Apex but more than a few posters were convinced we were going to lose to Putt. They based that on what they thought they saw in the App State game. It seemed none of them saw a good solid App State team,just a terrible PSU defense.
