Wrestling Penn State receives pre-seeds for Big Ten Tournament

[jmadden1998]

Big Ten Wrestling Pre-Seeds Announced

Penn State paces conference teams with four top-seeded wrestlers

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Happy Valley Insider - Penn State receives pre-seeds for Big Ten Tournament

Penn State wrestlers received their pre-seeds for the Big Ten Tournament on Monday.

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[nitlion6]

They look good. May the bitching begin.

 

[Chickenman Testa]

Needless to say - very imp for Kerk to beat Cass if they meet

 

[jmadden1998]

Could see Hildebrandt against Ayala in the semis. Kaleb Young and Berge in the quarters. Edsell against Marinelli in the quarters. Cass versus Kerk in the semis. Should see Kem and Starocci in the semis

 

[dunkej01]

Are these as decent as they seem?

 

[jbkeller72]

Great look for Berge. Tough for first match for Bartlett v Blockhus. Let’s ride!

 

[CSauertiegPSU]

The pre-seeds for the 2022 Big Ten Tournament in Lincoln came out on Monday and were pretty favorable for the Nittany Lions.

Happy Valley Insider - Penn State receives pre-seeds for Big Ten Tournament

Penn State wrestlers received their pre-seeds for the Big Ten Tournament on Monday.

pennstate.rivals.com

 

[McScoreley]

Other than Bartlett, draws look favorable.

Only reasonable I say that about Bartlett is he draws the guy who handily beat him last year at Big Tens.

 

[CSauertiegPSU]

On the contrary, if Bartlett beats Blockhus I think Gomez is a much better matchup then Lovett in the quarters.

 

[js8793]

Other than Bartlett, draws look favorable.

Only reasonable I say that about Bartlett is he draws the guy who handily beat him last year at Big Tens.

On the contrary, if Bartlett beats Blockhus I think Gomez is a much better matchup then Lovett in the quarters.

agree with this and blockhus has not been great this year. actually, his big tens performance last year has proven to be an outlier. he's been very average outside of those 2 days. definitely winnable for bartlett.

 

[ZepGraffiti]

If these hold, I think there's a decent chance of no PSU/OSU matches all weekend.
But there could be up to 5 vs Iowa in the Semis alone.

 

[dunkej01]

 

[diggerpup]

6 PSU first round byes.
Stings the bonus point potential a bit.
At least Kerk gets a 3/14 to start his day.

 

[Used2BEerie]

They look good. May the bitching begin.

I was hoping we would get 10 #1 seeds and also an extra entry at 197. How is that?

I think they look pretty good.

 

[ptdan]

Could see Hildebrandt against Ayala in the semis. Kaleb Young and Berge in the quarters. Edsell against Marinelli in the quarters. Cass versus Kerk in the semis. Should see Kem and Starocci in the semis

Thought 6 v 10 winner got #3 in quarters which would mean Lewan? And 7 v 11 would get #2?

 

[ptdan]

Thought 6 v 10 winner got #3 in quarters which would mean Lewan? And 7 v 11 would get #2?

on second thought...is it 6 v 11 and 7 v 10.

 

[diggerpup]

Thought 6 v 10 winner got #3 in quarters which would mean Lewan? And 7 v 11 would get #2?

3/14
4/13
5/12
6/11
7/10
8/9
BYE: 1 & 2

Quarters
1 gets 8/9
2 gets 7/10
3 gets 6/11
4 gets 5/12

So a 2 vs 6 semi is possible.

 

[lookleft goright]

6 PSU first round byes.
Stings the bonus point potential a bit.
At least Kerk gets a 3/14 to start his day.

I thought you got the bonus points from your second round match doubled if you got a first round bye. I know it is easier to get bonus points against a first round guy than a second round guy, but I thought the possibility existed of making up the bonus points from a first round bye. Am I in laa laa land here or am I correct?

 

[NoVa Lion]

on second thought...is it 6 v 11 and 7 v 10.

Correct. R16 seeds always add up to 17. Quaretfinals seeds always add up to 9 and so on assuming the higher seeded wrestler keeps winning.

 

[McScoreley]

Obviously I don't think Brady is a favorite right now over Kaleb Young or anything but Model round 1 and him 2nd round is more favorable than any scenario where he faces Ryan Deakin lol.

Similarly, I didn't think he matched up that well against Kendall Coleman last year.

 

[Cstroke]

Thoughts on why Seabass isn't the 2 seed? Not that it matters much but out of curiosity.

 

[McScoreley]

Thoughts on why Seabass isn't the 2 seed? Not that it matters much but out of curiosity.

Pretty simple, unfair but obvious why they did it. They weren't dinging Eierman for losing to Lee when Seabass didn't wrestle him or Lee.

Now obviously, Seabass was prepared to wrestle Lee so you can argue he should get the 1 seed even. But it's 1 or 3 and they chose 3.

 

[tullfan68]

Needless to say - very imp for Kerk to beat Cass if they meet

HE SHOULD WIN IF HE DOESNT GO BODY LOCKS!

 

[McScoreley]

HE SHOULD WIN IF HE DOESNT GO BODY LOCKS!

Cass will work to force it. I'm pretty sure Cael has had this match as one he planned for a while after the loss because it was obvious it would likely be the semi.

 

[Sportfan2017]

Looks like the BIG10 could be pretty well settled after the Semis. #Giterdone

 

[tullfan68]

Cass will work to force it. I'm pretty sure Cael has had this match as one he planned for a while after the loss because it was obvious it would likely be the semi.

if Kirk wrestles like he did with Mason he can beat anyone maybe even Gable take some lessons from Cassar!

 

[McScoreley]

if Kirk wrestles like he did with Mason he can beat anyone maybe even Gable take some lessons from Cassar!

 

[mcpat]

A little curious that 10-3 Edsell is behind 14-13 Carlson (loser of his last 5 matches; 2-6 against Big Ten starters) and 8-9 Bubba Wilson (3-5 against Big Ten Starters).

I understand Edsell’s schedule hasn’t been the strongest. But his record is appreciably better. And he has decent non-conference wins over Revano and Meyer.

Note I said only “a little”.

That said, I like his chances against Lohrey regardless.

 

[dunkej01]

Pretty simple, unfair but obvious why they did it. They weren't dinging Eierman for losing to Lee when Seabass didn't wrestle him or Lee.

Now obviously, Seabass was prepared to wrestle Lee so you can argue he should get the 1 seed even. But it's 1 or 3 and they chose 3.

Obviously mineo and RU fans are a little but hurt. But whether it's the 2 or 3 it doesn't matter. He gets the riddler to face lee. If JE wins committee looks good. Seabass wins....well who cares

 

[ss7]

A little curious that 10-3 Edsell is behind 14-13 Carlson (loser of his last 5 matches; 2-6 against Big Ten starters) and 8-9 Bubba Wilson (3-5 against Big Ten Starters).

I understand Edsell’s schedule hasn’t been the strongest. But his record is appreciably better. And he has decent non-conference wins over Revano and Meyer.

Note I said only “a little”.

That said, I like his chances against Lohrey regardless.

It certainly is...interesting.

 

[js8793]

A little curious that 10-3 Edsell is behind 14-13 Carlson (loser of his last 5 matches; 2-6 against Big Ten starters) and 8-9 Bubba Wilson (3-5 against Big Ten Starters).

I understand Edsell’s schedule hasn’t been the strongest. But his record is appreciably better. And he has decent non-conference wins over Revano and Meyer.

Note I said only “a little”.

That said, I like his chances against Lohrey regardless.

i don't think non conference wins factor into seeding at all. and he only had 1 win over the big ten field (14 seed bell from md). carlson had the better win over 8 seed wilson.

got screwed by not getting a full slate and when he did wrestle, he got the back ups from OSU, IU, and Nebraska. never had a chance to build a resume.

 

[McScoreley]

i don't think non conference wins factor into seeding at all. and he only had 1 win over the big ten field (14 seed bell from md). carlson had the better win over 8 seed wilson.

got screwed by not getting a full slate and when he did wrestle, he got the back ups from OSU, IU, and Nebraska. never had a chance to build a resume.

I know getting Berge matches was important but hindsight 20-20, Edsell not getting Fish/Amine (neither who look like world beaters this year) hurt Creighton also.

 

[CJFisJoePaII]

Thought 6 v 10 winner got #3 in quarters which would mean Lewan? And 7 v 11 would get #2?

Believe you're correct #1 gets #8/#9 winner, #2 gets #7/#10, #3 gets #6/#11 winner........

 

[STAND with PRIDE]

I know getting Berge matches was important but hindsight 20-20, Edsell not getting Fish/Amine (neither who look like world beaters this year) hurt Creighton also.

Berge could HAVE got matches at opens. Poor planning.

 

[McScoreley]

Berge could HAVE got matches at opens. Poor planning.

Well Berge came in planning to go 165.

 

[RoarLions1]

I thought you got the bonus points from your second round match doubled if you got a first round bye. I know it is easier to get bonus points against a first round guy than a second round guy, but I thought the possibility existed of making up the bonus points from a first round bye. Am I in laa laa land here or am I correct?

You are not correct. One "extra" Advancement Point, in addition to the one earned, for the #1 & #2 seeds that win their round 2 bout. There are no free Bonus Points.

 

[STAND with PRIDE]

Well Berge came in planning to go 165.

Hasnt that been de-bunked (seriously)?
Thats what I got from Cael interview anyway….

 

[Random4598375]

Obviously mineo and RU fans are a little but hurt. But whether it's the 2 or 3 it doesn't matter. He gets the riddler to face lee. If JE wins committee looks good. Seabass wins....well who cares

Seabass got the worst possible draw of anyone in any weight class (considering there is a valid argument he should be #1). Micic->Eierman->Lee. It's hard to imagine anyone will be able to run that gauntlet.

 

[PAgeologist]

My only problem is why a Hawkeye fan is the one who had to start this thread.

 

[CSauertiegPSU]

Obviously I don't think Brady is a favorite right now over Kaleb Young or anything but Model round 1 and him 2nd round is more favorable than any scenario where he faces Ryan Deakin lol.

Similarly, I didn't think he matched up that well against Kendall Coleman last year.

Gimme Berge