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[Nittany Ned2]

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[LionDeNittany]

I don't know if anyone has caught the latest episode of Real Sports. They cover an interesting piece on strength and conditioning in NCAA Football programs. Notably, the connection to player deaths and injuries during training sessions.

https://www.theshadowleague.com/sto...es-jordan-mcnair-s-death-at-the-u-of-maryland

I kept thinking about why aren't we hearing about injuries/deaths of non-football athletes. Im pretty sure the workouts are very similar. My kid plays D1 lacrosse and I know her S&C workouts are just as brutal but we never hear of kids getting injured during their workouts. Is it the increased body mass in football players?

The money is in Football. All these stories, in the end are driven by money. Football has eyes, football has money.

LdN

 

[sluggo72]

I don't know if anyone has caught the latest episode of Real Sports. They cover an interesting piece on strength and conditioning in NCAA Football programs. Notably, the connection to player deaths and injuries during training sessions.

https://www.theshadowleague.com/sto...es-jordan-mcnair-s-death-at-the-u-of-maryland

I kept thinking about why aren't we hearing about injuries/deaths of non-football athletes. Im pretty sure the workouts are very similar. My kid plays D1 lacrosse and I know her S&C workouts are just as brutal but we never hear of kids getting injured during their workouts. Is it the increased body mass in football players?

plane lands safely at BWI airport does not sell papers. I think you get the idea.

 

[sluggo72]

That doesn't explain why non-football athletes are not suffering the same injuries and heatstroke deaths? or maybe they are?

they are all tragedy but it seems football gets head lines. I dont know where you could get the actual stats on all of this. That said, did you see this headline this week?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/h...g-at-cross-country-meet/ar-AAAAmPr?li=BBnbfcL

if it were football and not women's XC I think you would have by now.

 

[katchthis]

That doesn't explain why non-football athletes are not suffering the same injuries and heatstroke deaths? or maybe they are?

High BMIs in football. Basketball has some deaths with cardiac arrhythmias. Also way more kids on a FB team compared to any other team on campus.

 

[Lemmus]

The real culprit is the confluence of high temperature, humidity and blazing sunshine that occurs when football players are working out the hardest (pre-season conditioning). The incidence of heat trauma is much more pronounced in the east and southeast, where these conditions occur with more intensity during the summer months. See the link from the Korey Stringer Institute be

https://ksi.uconn.edu/2018/07/20/th...d-the-rising-temperature-inside-climate-news/

 

[IANit]

I don't know if anyone has caught the latest episode of Real Sports. They cover an interesting piece on strength and conditioning in NCAA Football programs. Notably, the connection to player deaths and injuries during training sessions.

https://www.theshadowleague.com/sto...es-jordan-mcnair-s-death-at-the-u-of-maryland

I kept thinking about why aren't we hearing about injuries/deaths of non-football athletes. Im pretty sure the workouts are very similar. My kid plays D1 lacrosse and I know her S&C workouts are just as brutal but we never hear of kids getting injured during their workouts. Is it the increased body mass in football players?

Most of the football athletes that I can think of who died from something like that were African American and likely more prone to sickle cell trait. It's not the only factor, but as of October 2016 about 11 of 26 of the players who had died since 2000 had it. Another factor, though the Lacrosse team may have the same S&C coaches as the football team, is that many S&C coaches aren't really all that well-trained for their jobs and rely on questionable practices. Add in the extra weight kids carry and some of the many supplements out there with who knows what in them and it isn't a complete shock that some kids have problems.

 

[N&B4PSU]

Most of the football athletes that I can think of who died from something like that were African American and likely more prone to sickle cell trait. It's not the only factor, but as of October 2016 about 11 of 26 of the players who had died since 2000 had it. Another factor, though the Lacrosse team may have the same S&C coaches as the football team, is that many S&C coaches aren't really all that well-trained for their jobs and rely on questionable practices. Add in the extra weight kids carry and some of the many supplements out there with who knows what in them and it isn't a complete shock that some kids have problems.

Great comment(s). Thank you!

 

[IANit]

Great comment(s). Thank you!

Here's an article that talks about how unregulated the strength training profession is in college football.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-f...coaches-and-college-footballs-killing-season/

Our coaches are in the more rigorous one, but so is Iowa's Chris Doyle who joined/completed his certification after the infamous rhabdo incident and is on its board of directors. Not to pick on Doyle, but I know at that time some of the workout he was having them do when the rhabdo hit was questioned as having any real long-term benefit.