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bdgan

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Confirmed by oil field worker who's been in the oil field business for 50+ years and is still in it at 82.

A whole lot of truth about gas prices, and to those that say: "the president doesn't set the price of gas"... pay close attention and maybe read it twice:

From a production worker in a refinery on the Gulf of Mexico:

"You've been lied to by the President and his phony cronies, but I want to set the record straight. I'm going to tell you the truth, so pay attention"....

1. There is enough recoverable crude oil within the continental US to supply current and projected future demand for 400+ years, and that's just the oil we know about. It doesn't account for future discoveries. That's a fact...

2. We do not need to import a SINGLE DROP of foreign crude oil. The domestic oil industry can easily meet, and even surpass domestic demand. We've done it before, and we can do it again. That's a fact...

3. The domestic oil industry currently cannot satisfy domestic demand due to oil drilling restrictions imposed by the federal government. That's a fact...

4. The price of EVERYTHING revolves around oil, and the law of supply vs demand dictates the price of oil. When oil is plentiful, commodities are cheap. When oil is scarce, commodities are more expensive. Right now, domestic oil is scarce, and the price of everything is high because of these restrictions imposed by the federal government. That's a fact…

5. We import foreign oil from countries that drill and produce it much cheaper than we're able to because they do not implement all of the environmental safeguards that we do. Their methods are FAR more destructive to the environment than ours are. That's a fact...

6. Every year, the federal government leases tracts of land to oil companies so they can explore on it for oil. If enough oil is found during exploration, the company can then apply for a drilling permit which allows them to drill a well. If no oil is found during exploration, or if the amount found is not enough to be profitable the lease expires without ever being drilled on. Leases that are active, but not being drilled on does NOT mean that oil companies are being lazy, or are trying to keep the oil for themselves, etc. etc. It means they've either explored the lease for oil and found nothing, or found oil but it's not enough to justify drilling for. That's a fact...

7. it’s not Russia's fault, or China's fault, or Ukraine, or India, or Venezuela, or Iran, or Bangladesh, or any other countries' fault as to why everything is so expensive right now. It's Joe Biden's fault, because he is suppressing the domestic oil industry for political gain.

EVERYTHING depends on crude oil... but you might not know that if you believe the lies that are being told about oil and the oil industry.

EDUCATE YOURSELF…
 

jjw165

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Confirmed by oil field worker who's been in the oil field business for 50+ years and is still in it at 82.

A whole lot of truth about gas prices, and to those that say: "the president doesn't set the price of gas"... pay close attention and maybe read it twice:

From a production worker in a refinery on the Gulf of Mexico:

"You've been lied to by the President and his phony cronies, but I want to set the record straight. I'm going to tell you the truth, so pay attention"....

1. There is enough recoverable crude oil within the continental US to supply current and projected future demand for 400+ years, and that's just the oil we know about. It doesn't account for future discoveries. That's a fact...

2. We do not need to import a SINGLE DROP of foreign crude oil. The domestic oil industry can easily meet, and even surpass domestic demand. We've done it before, and we can do it again. That's a fact...

3. The domestic oil industry currently cannot satisfy domestic demand due to oil drilling restrictions imposed by the federal government. That's a fact...

4. The price of EVERYTHING revolves around oil, and the law of supply vs demand dictates the price of oil. When oil is plentiful, commodities are cheap. When oil is scarce, commodities are more expensive. Right now, domestic oil is scarce, and the price of everything is high because of these restrictions imposed by the federal government. That's a fact…

5. We import foreign oil from countries that drill and produce it much cheaper than we're able to because they do not implement all of the environmental safeguards that we do. Their methods are FAR more destructive to the environment than ours are. That's a fact...

6. Every year, the federal government leases tracts of land to oil companies so they can explore on it for oil. If enough oil is found during exploration, the company can then apply for a drilling permit which allows them to drill a well. If no oil is found during exploration, or if the amount found is not enough to be profitable the lease expires without ever being drilled on. Leases that are active, but not being drilled on does NOT mean that oil companies are being lazy, or are trying to keep the oil for themselves, etc. etc. It means they've either explored the lease for oil and found nothing, or found oil but it's not enough to justify drilling for. That's a fact...

7. it’s not Russia's fault, or China's fault, or Ukraine, or India, or Venezuela, or Iran, or Bangladesh, or any other countries' fault as to why everything is so expensive right now. It's Joe Biden's fault, because he is suppressing the domestic oil industry for political gain.

EVERYTHING depends on crude oil... but you might not know that if you believe the lies that are being told about oil and the oil industry.

EDUCATE YOURSELF…
As far as the natural supply of oil, I’ve heard the same thing. We have a few hundred years of it. That’s why this is all an elitist’s wet dream about going electric to save the planet. Pure bullshit.
 

Catch50

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Confirmed by oil field worker who's been in the oil field business for 50+ years and is still in it at 82.

A whole lot of truth about gas prices, and to those that say: "the president doesn't set the price of gas"... pay close attention and maybe read it twice:

From a production worker in a refinery on the Gulf of Mexico:

"You've been lied to by the President and his phony cronies, but I want to set the record straight. I'm going to tell you the truth, so pay attention"....

1. There is enough recoverable crude oil within the continental US to supply current and projected future demand for 400+ years, and that's just the oil we know about. It doesn't account for future discoveries. That's a fact...

2. We do not need to import a SINGLE DROP of foreign crude oil. The domestic oil industry can easily meet, and even surpass domestic demand. We've done it before, and we can do it again. That's a fact...

3. The domestic oil industry currently cannot satisfy domestic demand due to oil drilling restrictions imposed by the federal government. That's a fact...

4. The price of EVERYTHING revolves around oil, and the law of supply vs demand dictates the price of oil. When oil is plentiful, commodities are cheap. When oil is scarce, commodities are more expensive. Right now, domestic oil is scarce, and the price of everything is high because of these restrictions imposed by the federal government. That's a fact…

5. We import foreign oil from countries that drill and produce it much cheaper than we're able to because they do not implement all of the environmental safeguards that we do. Their methods are FAR more destructive to the environment than ours are. That's a fact... (I'm pretty sure these countries don't need to drill shale or use horizontal drilling. regulations or not, oil from those countries is much cheaper.)

6. Every year, the federal government leases tracts of land to oil companies so they can explore on it for oil. If enough oil is found during exploration, the company can then apply for a drilling permit which allows them to drill a well. If no oil is found during exploration, or if the amount found is not enough to be profitable the lease expires without ever being drilled on. Leases that are active, but not being drilled on does NOT mean that oil companies are being lazy, or are trying to keep the oil for themselves, etc. etc. It means they've either explored the lease for oil and found nothing, or found oil but it's not enough to justify drilling for. That's a fact...

7. it’s not Russia's fault, or China's fault, or Ukraine, or India, or Venezuela, or Iran, or Bangladesh, or any other countries' fault as to why everything is so expensive right now. It's Joe Biden's fault, because he is suppressing the domestic oil industry for political gain.

EVERYTHING depends on crude oil... but you might not know that if you believe the lies that are being told about oil and the oil industry.

EDUCATE YOURSELF…
 

MaconNitt

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Confirmed by oil field worker who's been in the oil field business for 50+ years and is still in it at 82.

A whole lot of truth about gas prices, and to those that say: "the president doesn't set the price of gas"... pay close attention and maybe read it twice:

From a production worker in a refinery on the Gulf of Mexico:

"You've been lied to by the President and his phony cronies, but I want to set the record straight. I'm going to tell you the truth, so pay attention"....

1. There is enough recoverable crude oil within the continental US to supply current and projected future demand for 400+ years, and that's just the oil we know about. It doesn't account for future discoveries. That's a fact...

2. We do not need to import a SINGLE DROP of foreign crude oil. The domestic oil industry can easily meet, and even surpass domestic demand. We've done it before, and we can do it again. That's a fact...

3. The domestic oil industry currently cannot satisfy domestic demand due to oil drilling restrictions imposed by the federal government. That's a fact...

4. The price of EVERYTHING revolves around oil, and the law of supply vs demand dictates the price of oil. When oil is plentiful, commodities are cheap. When oil is scarce, commodities are more expensive. Right now, domestic oil is scarce, and the price of everything is high because of these restrictions imposed by the federal government. That's a fact…

5. We import foreign oil from countries that drill and produce it much cheaper than we're able to because they do not implement all of the environmental safeguards that we do. Their methods are FAR more destructive to the environment than ours are. That's a fact...

6. Every year, the federal government leases tracts of land to oil companies so they can explore on it for oil. If enough oil is found during exploration, the company can then apply for a drilling permit which allows them to drill a well. If no oil is found during exploration, or if the amount found is not enough to be profitable the lease expires without ever being drilled on. Leases that are active, but not being drilled on does NOT mean that oil companies are being lazy, or are trying to keep the oil for themselves, etc. etc. It means they've either explored the lease for oil and found nothing, or found oil but it's not enough to justify drilling for. That's a fact...

7. it’s not Russia's fault, or China's fault, or Ukraine, or India, or Venezuela, or Iran, or Bangladesh, or any other countries' fault as to why everything is so expensive right now. It's Joe Biden's fault, because he is suppressing the domestic oil industry for political gain.

EVERYTHING depends on crude oil... but you might not know that if you believe the lies that are being told about oil and the oil industry.

EDUCATE YOURSELF…
do you have a source (link) to this one oil field worker?
 

Catch50

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As far as the natural supply of oil, I’ve heard the same thing. We have a few hundred years of it. That’s why this is all an elitist’s wet dream about going electric to save the planet. Pure bullshit.
I doubt any serious geologist thinks we have more than a few decades of affordable oil to be drilled.
There are abandoned wells all over the world.
And peak oil believers like myself don't all believe electric is going to save the world. I'm actually a
pretty big critic of EV's.
 
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Vic Vaselino

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Confirmed by oil field worker who's been in the oil field business for 50+ years and is still in it at 82.

A whole lot of truth about gas prices, and to those that say: "the president doesn't set the price of gas"... pay close attention and maybe read it twice:

From a production worker in a refinery on the Gulf of Mexico:

"You've been lied to by the President and his phony cronies, but I want to set the record straight. I'm going to tell you the truth, so pay attention"....

1. There is enough recoverable crude oil within the continental US to supply current and projected future demand for 400+ years, and that's just the oil we know about. It doesn't account for future discoveries. That's a fact...

2. We do not need to import a SINGLE DROP of foreign crude oil. The domestic oil industry can easily meet, and even surpass domestic demand. We've done it before, and we can do it again. That's a fact...

3. The domestic oil industry currently cannot satisfy domestic demand due to oil drilling restrictions imposed by the federal government. That's a fact...

4. The price of EVERYTHING revolves around oil, and the law of supply vs demand dictates the price of oil. When oil is plentiful, commodities are cheap. When oil is scarce, commodities are more expensive. Right now, domestic oil is scarce, and the price of everything is high because of these restrictions imposed by the federal government. That's a fact…

5. We import foreign oil from countries that drill and produce it much cheaper than we're able to because they do not implement all of the environmental safeguards that we do. Their methods are FAR more destructive to the environment than ours are. That's a fact...

6. Every year, the federal government leases tracts of land to oil companies so they can explore on it for oil. If enough oil is found during exploration, the company can then apply for a drilling permit which allows them to drill a well. If no oil is found during exploration, or if the amount found is not enough to be profitable the lease expires without ever being drilled on. Leases that are active, but not being drilled on does NOT mean that oil companies are being lazy, or are trying to keep the oil for themselves, etc. etc. It means they've either explored the lease for oil and found nothing, or found oil but it's not enough to justify drilling for. That's a fact...

7. it’s not Russia's fault, or China's fault, or Ukraine, or India, or Venezuela, or Iran, or Bangladesh, or any other countries' fault as to why everything is so expensive right now. It's Joe Biden's fault, because he is suppressing the domestic oil industry for political gain.

EVERYTHING depends on crude oil... but you might not know that if you believe the lies that are being told about oil and the oil industry.

EDUCATE YOURSELF…
Oh well, as long as some uneducated grease monkey says it, it MUST be true. Could you be any dumber?
 

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Fact: Renewables are free once infrastructure is in place.
Fact: Health effects of pollution increase the costs of oil but are seldom considered.
Fact: Coal is already more expensive than renewables.
Yes, we can’t eliminate oil overnight but there is no reason to not start the job. Nuclear as well as renewable energy should also be considered.
 
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You can't eat oil. The global temp is increasing, and climate is changing. The longer we rely on fossil fuels the faster those trends continue.
 

bdgan

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Fact: Renewables are free once infrastructure is in place.
Fact: Health effects of pollution increase the costs of oil but are seldom considered.
Fact: Coal is already more expensive than renewables.
Yes, we can’t eliminate oil overnight but there is no reason to not start the job. Nuclear as well as renewable energy should also be considered.
FACT: You don't have a clue
 

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. it’s not Russia's fault, or China's fault, or Ukraine, or India, or Venezuela, or Iran, or Bangladesh, or any other countries' fault as to why everything is so expensive right now. It's Joe Biden's fault, because he is suppressing the domestic oil industry for political gain.
No.
First the time frame from oil exploration, to finding oil, to extracting oil and turning it into gasoline is longer than the time Joe Biden has been President. If you are blaming Biden for the increase in the cost of gas, are you willing to give him credit for the price of gas falling for 30 straight days.
Oil is a global commodity. The price is set by global supply and demand. Not just in the US, but worldwide. The war in Ukraine has had an effect. More to the point, during the height of COVID demand for gas dropped considerably because the worldwide economy was shut down. The Chinese government was much more aggressive than the west in shutting down their economy. In response to decreased demand, oil companies lowered their production. When COVID receded and demand shot up the gas refineries couldn't handle the demand. It takes time to ramp up production.
Finally, global warming is a real issue. Ultimately we want and need to transition from fossil fuels. We want and need renewable clean energy. It is absolutely true that Biden is steering us in that direction. Unfortunately the transition will not be seamless. It will take time.
 

bdgan

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Look at the responses by people like NJ & Vic. They scoff at what the guy posted but can't refute anything he says. Others have fallen back to the peak oil thing that was debunked a decade ago.

At least Maypole challenges the bullet point. He lies by suggesting things like renewable energy is free but at least he tried.

P.S. If renewables were less expensive and more reliable they wouldn't need to be subsidized.
 

bdgan

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No.
First the time frame from oil exploration, to finding oil, to extracting oil and turning it into gasoline is longer than the time Joe Biden has been President. If you are blaming Biden for the increase in the cost of gas, are you willing to give him credit for the price of gas falling for 30 straight days.
Oil is a global commodity. The price is set by global supply and demand. Not just in the US, but worldwide. The war in Ukraine has had an effect. More to the point, during the height of COVID demand for gas dropped considerably because the worldwide economy was shut down. The Chinese government was much more aggressive than the west in shutting down their economy. In response to decreased demand, oil companies lowered their production. When COVID receded and demand shot up the gas refineries couldn't handle the demand. It takes time to ramp up production.
Finally, global warming is a real issue. Ultimately we want and need to transition from fossil fuels. We want and need renewable clean energy. It is absolutely true that Biden is steering us in that direction. Unfortunately the transition will not be seamless. It will take time.
It's Trump's fault
It's Covid's fault
It's Putin's fault
Soon it will be China's fault
 

MaconNitt

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Look at the responses by people like NJ & Vic. They scoff at what the guy posted but can't refute anything he says. Others have fallen back to the peak oil thing that was debunked a decade ago.

At least Maypole challenges the bullet point. He lies by suggesting things like renewable energy is free but at least he tried.

P.S. If renewables were less expensive and more reliable they wouldn't need to be subsidized.
All I can say is WOW.

No wonder you didn't want to provide a link to your source. It is from America's Best Pics and Videos. A site that uses an algorithm to pick the 300 funniest memes of the day. :oops: It must be true if it is on the internet :rolleyes:


 

m.knox

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Confirmed by oil field worker who's been in the oil field business for 50+ years and is still in it at 82.

A whole lot of truth about gas prices, and to those that say: "the president doesn't set the price of gas"... pay close attention and maybe read it twice:

From a production worker in a refinery on the Gulf of Mexico:

"You've been lied to by the President and his phony cronies, but I want to set the record straight. I'm going to tell you the truth, so pay attention"....

1. There is enough recoverable crude oil within the continental US to supply current and projected future demand for 400+ years, and that's just the oil we know about. It doesn't account for future discoveries. That's a fact...

2. We do not need to import a SINGLE DROP of foreign crude oil. The domestic oil industry can easily meet, and even surpass domestic demand. We've done it before, and we can do it again. That's a fact...

3. The domestic oil industry currently cannot satisfy domestic demand due to oil drilling restrictions imposed by the federal government. That's a fact...

4. The price of EVERYTHING revolves around oil, and the law of supply vs demand dictates the price of oil. When oil is plentiful, commodities are cheap. When oil is scarce, commodities are more expensive. Right now, domestic oil is scarce, and the price of everything is high because of these restrictions imposed by the federal government. That's a fact…

5. We import foreign oil from countries that drill and produce it much cheaper than we're able to because they do not implement all of the environmental safeguards that we do. Their methods are FAR more destructive to the environment than ours are. That's a fact...

6. Every year, the federal government leases tracts of land to oil companies so they can explore on it for oil. If enough oil is found during exploration, the company can then apply for a drilling permit which allows them to drill a well. If no oil is found during exploration, or if the amount found is not enough to be profitable the lease expires without ever being drilled on. Leases that are active, but not being drilled on does NOT mean that oil companies are being lazy, or are trying to keep the oil for themselves, etc. etc. It means they've either explored the lease for oil and found nothing, or found oil but it's not enough to justify drilling for. That's a fact...

7. it’s not Russia's fault, or China's fault, or Ukraine, or India, or Venezuela, or Iran, or Bangladesh, or any other countries' fault as to why everything is so expensive right now. It's Joe Biden's fault, because he is suppressing the domestic oil industry for political gain.

EVERYTHING depends on crude oil... but you might not know that if you believe the lies that are being told about oil and the oil industry.

EDUCATE YOURSELF…


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m.knox

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You can't eat oil. The global temp is increasing, and climate is changing. The longer we rely on fossil fuels the faster those trends continue.

Is the world really going to end in 9 years?
 

m.knox

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Fact: Renewables are free once infrastructure is in place.
Fact: Health effects of pollution increase the costs of oil but are seldom considered.
Fact: Coal is already more expensive than renewables.
Yes, we can’t eliminate oil overnight but there is no reason to not start the job. Nuclear as well as renewable energy should also be considered.

You didn't read the very last sentence of the OP. "EDUCATE YOURSELF"

Look around. Ask yourself this one simple question. Where did that come from? Your couch? Synthetic foam from Petroleum. Synthetic fibers from Petroleum. You painted your window sill? How nice! Where did that paint come from? Where does all the packaging come from - milk bottles, laundry detergent, iv bags...?

Shit, even renewable consume petrochemicals. The junction box and connector are plastic (highly specified I might add). All the wire is cross linked HDPE.

Renewables consume just like anything else.
 

SLUPSU

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Confirmed by oil field worker who's been in the oil field business for 50+ years and is still in it at 82.

A whole lot of truth about gas prices, and to those that say: "the president doesn't set the price of gas"... pay close attention and maybe read it twice:

From a production worker in a refinery on the Gulf of Mexico:

"You've been lied to by the President and his phony cronies, but I want to set the record straight. I'm going to tell you the truth, so pay attention"....

1. There is enough recoverable crude oil within the continental US to supply current and projected future demand for 400+ years, and that's just the oil we know about. It doesn't account for future discoveries. That's a fact...

2. We do not need to import a SINGLE DROP of foreign crude oil. The domestic oil industry can easily meet, and even surpass domestic demand. We've done it before, and we can do it again. That's a fact...

3. The domestic oil industry currently cannot satisfy domestic demand due to oil drilling restrictions imposed by the federal government. That's a fact...

4. The price of EVERYTHING revolves around oil, and the law of supply vs demand dictates the price of oil. When oil is plentiful, commodities are cheap. When oil is scarce, commodities are more expensive. Right now, domestic oil is scarce, and the price of everything is high because of these restrictions imposed by the federal government. That's a fact…

5. We import foreign oil from countries that drill and produce it much cheaper than we're able to because they do not implement all of the environmental safeguards that we do. Their methods are FAR more destructive to the environment than ours are. That's a fact...

6. Every year, the federal government leases tracts of land to oil companies so they can explore on it for oil. If enough oil is found during exploration, the company can then apply for a drilling permit which allows them to drill a well. If no oil is found during exploration, or if the amount found is not enough to be profitable the lease expires without ever being drilled on. Leases that are active, but not being drilled on does NOT mean that oil companies are being lazy, or are trying to keep the oil for themselves, etc. etc. It means they've either explored the lease for oil and found nothing, or found oil but it's not enough to justify drilling for. That's a fact...

7. it’s not Russia's fault, or China's fault, or Ukraine, or India, or Venezuela, or Iran, or Bangladesh, or any other countries' fault as to why everything is so expensive right now. It's Joe Biden's fault, because he is suppressing the domestic oil industry for political gain.

EVERYTHING depends on crude oil... but you might not know that if you believe the lies that are being told about oil and the oil industry.

EDUCATE YOURSELF…
You got suckered again, you should really be careful not to copy and paste facebook junk without checking it.

No, there isn’t enough recoverable crude oil in the U.S. to last over 400 years​


"In 2021, EIA data show the U.S. consumed an average of about 19.78 million barrels of petroleum per day, or about 7.22 billion barrels of petroleum overall. Based on current crude oil consumption levels, the estimated 373.1 billion barrels of technically recoverable reserves “would last about 50 years,” the EIA spokesperson told VERIFY."

Of course, we won't be using just 7.22 bbd looking forward, so reserves wouldn't last 50 years. Furthermore, wouldn't you need to regulate the oil industry not export oil, is that something you would be OK with?

 
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2lion70

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Why do people like Kerry, Obama, and Gore live by the ocean?
Great seafood, cooler temps, great ocean water, and for Kerry & Obama at least isolation from crowds.
Would you live there if you could - we had 6 great years on Nantucket when our sons were young - spent time with Fred (Mr) Rogers, John Kerry, Ted Kennedy, Lee Iaacco and may others.
 

2lion70

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Bulletin

Price of gas has dropped for 50 days in a row. Price of oil, both WTI and Brent, down again today.
 

bdgan

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You got suckered again, you should really be careful not to copy and paste facebook junk without checking it.

No, there isn’t enough recoverable crude oil in the U.S. to last over 400 years​


"In 2021, EIA data show the U.S. consumed an average of about 19.78 million barrels of petroleum per day, or about 7.22 billion barrels of petroleum overall. Based on current crude oil consumption levels, the estimated 373.1 billion barrels of technically recoverable reserves “would last about 50 years,” the EIA spokesperson told VERIFY."
That's KNOWN reserves like the Permian Basin. It also assumes CURRENT technology.

The Green River Formation contains the largest oil shale deposit in the world. It has been estimated that the oil shale reserves could equal up to 3 trillion barrels (480 billion cubic metres) of shale oil, up to half of which may be recoverable by shale oil extraction technologies.




We also have a 200 year supply of natural gas.
 
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Catch50

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That's what libs were saying a few decades ago.
People across the political spectrum were saying it. The fact is NOBODY knows for sure how much oil
is down there. So being prepared for depletion is correct.
 

LafayetteBear

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Confirmed by oil field worker who's been in the oil field business for 50+ years and is still in it at 82.

A whole lot of truth about gas prices, and to those that say: "the president doesn't set the price of gas"... pay close attention and maybe read it twice:

From a production worker in a refinery on the Gulf of Mexico:

"You've been lied to by the President and his phony cronies, but I want to set the record straight. I'm going to tell you the truth, so pay attention"....

1. There is enough recoverable crude oil within the continental US to supply current and projected future demand for 400+ years, and that's just the oil we know about. It doesn't account for future discoveries. That's a fact...

2. We do not need to import a SINGLE DROP of foreign crude oil. The domestic oil industry can easily meet, and even surpass domestic demand. We've done it before, and we can do it again. That's a fact...

3. The domestic oil industry currently cannot satisfy domestic demand due to oil drilling restrictions imposed by the federal government. That's a fact...

4. The price of EVERYTHING revolves around oil, and the law of supply vs demand dictates the price of oil. When oil is plentiful, commodities are cheap. When oil is scarce, commodities are more expensive. Right now, domestic oil is scarce, and the price of everything is high because of these restrictions imposed by the federal government. That's a fact…

5. We import foreign oil from countries that drill and produce it much cheaper than we're able to because they do not implement all of the environmental safeguards that we do. Their methods are FAR more destructive to the environment than ours are. That's a fact...

6. Every year, the federal government leases tracts of land to oil companies so they can explore on it for oil. If enough oil is found during exploration, the company can then apply for a drilling permit which allows them to drill a well. If no oil is found during exploration, or if the amount found is not enough to be profitable the lease expires without ever being drilled on. Leases that are active, but not being drilled on does NOT mean that oil companies are being lazy, or are trying to keep the oil for themselves, etc. etc. It means they've either explored the lease for oil and found nothing, or found oil but it's not enough to justify drilling for. That's a fact...

7. it’s not Russia's fault, or China's fault, or Ukraine, or India, or Venezuela, or Iran, or Bangladesh, or any other countries' fault as to why everything is so expensive right now. It's Joe Biden's fault, because he is suppressing the domestic oil industry for political gain.

EVERYTHING depends on crude oil... but you might not know that if you believe the lies that are being told about oil and the oil industry.

EDUCATE YOURSELF…
How much of that is shale oil or tar sands oil?

Mic drop ...
 

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Great seafood, cooler temps, great ocean water, and for Kerry & Obama at least isolation from crowds.
Would you live there if you could - we had 6 great years on Nantucket when our sons were young - spent time with Fred (Mr) Rogers, John Kerry, Ted Kennedy, Lee Iaacco and may others.

Of course. I think his point (which you probably intentionally missed) was if they were really concerned about climate change they wouldn't own coastal properties that they claim will soon be under water. They probably wouldn't own multiple properties or fly private either, if they really cared. It's troublesome that what they do doesn't match what they say.

Unless, of course, they're just saying words to gain/keep power and appease morons.
 
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Of course. I think his point (which you probably intentionally missed) was if they were really concerned about climate change they wouldn't own coastal properties that they claim will soon be under water. They probably wouldn't own multiple properties or fly private either, if they really cared. It's troublesome that what they do doesn't match what they say.

Unless, of course, they're just saying words to gain/keep power and appease morons.
Or tool around in boats on pristine lakes powered by petroleum products.
 

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You didn't read the very last sentence of the OP. "EDUCATE YOURSELF"

Look around. Ask yourself this one simple question. Where did that come from? Your couch? Synthetic foam from Petroleum. Synthetic fibers from Petroleum. You painted your window sill? How nice! Where did that paint come from? Where does all the packaging come from - milk bottles, laundry detergent, iv bags...?

Shit, even renewable consume petrochemicals. The junction box and connector are plastic (highly specified I might add). All the wire is cross linked HDPE.

Renewables consume just like anything else.
I never said petro would be eliminated. You and your ilk are uneducateable because you absolutely refuse to acknowledge anything that goes against your biases.
 
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You can't eat oil. The global temp is increasing, and climate is changing. The longer we rely on fossil fuels the faster those trends continue.
You guys all seem to forget our climate gurus words....we can get our CO2 emissions to zero and it would have no effect on the economy.
 
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Should give us plenty of time to get those small nuclear reactors on line even with regulatory constraints
I don't know enough about things like safety andcdisposing of spent rods. Advocates say there have been advances and the risk is minimal. I know for years they have been threatening to close the nuclear facility near me.

It seems that we have pro fossil fuel people and pro wind and solar. Not as many advocates for nuclear. It seems to be working for France although rates are 50% higher than in USA.
 

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I don't know enough about things like safety andcdisposing of spent rods. Advocates say there have been advances and the risk is minimal. I know for years they have been threatening to close the nuclear facility near me.

It seems that we have pro fossil fuel people and pro wind and solar. Not as many advocates for nuclear. It seems to be working for France although rates are 50% higher than in USA.
Germany just announced it is relooking the decision to shut down its nuclear facilities.
 
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Oh well, as long as some uneducated grease monkey says it, it MUST be true. Could you be any dumber?
My God....BDgan is one of the few conservatives on here that doesn't just look to argue back and can admit the right was wrong for their actions on January 6th. You guys are just so addicted to firing back, you don't want to believe this can be true. I don't care if it's just one guy. It's a guy who works directly in the oil field and has for many years.

That's way more first-hand credible knowledge than any politician with an agenda.
 
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I don't know enough about things like safety andcdisposing of spent rods. Advocates say there have been advances and the risk is minimal. I know for years they have been threatening to close the nuclear facility near me.

It seems that we have pro fossil fuel people and pro wind and solar. Not as many advocates for nuclear. It seems to be working for France although rates are 50% higher than in USA.
Yucca Mountain was approved for spent nuclear waste storage back in the early 2000's. However, funding for the project was halted in 2010. I wonder who was Prezy and Vice Prezy then. Thanks to that bastion of the left Harry Reid it still is only proposed.
 

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Confirmed by oil field worker who's been in the oil field business for 50+ years and is still in it at 82.

A whole lot of truth about gas prices, and to those that say: "the president doesn't set the price of gas"... pay close attention and maybe read it twice:

From a production worker in a refinery on the Gulf of Mexico:

"You've been lied to by the President and his phony cronies, but I want to set the record straight. I'm going to tell you the truth, so pay attention"....

1. There is enough recoverable crude oil within the continental US to supply current and projected future demand for 400+ years, and that's just the oil we know about. It doesn't account for future discoveries. That's a fact...

2. We do not need to import a SINGLE DROP of foreign crude oil. The domestic oil industry can easily meet, and even surpass domestic demand. We've done it before, and we can do it again. That's a fact...

3. The domestic oil industry currently cannot satisfy domestic demand due to oil drilling restrictions imposed by the federal government. That's a fact...

4. The price of EVERYTHING revolves around oil, and the law of supply vs demand dictates the price of oil. When oil is plentiful, commodities are cheap. When oil is scarce, commodities are more expensive. Right now, domestic oil is scarce, and the price of everything is high because of these restrictions imposed by the federal government. That's a fact…

5. We import foreign oil from countries that drill and produce it much cheaper than we're able to because they do not implement all of the environmental safeguards that we do. Their methods are FAR more destructive to the environment than ours are. That's a fact...

6. Every year, the federal government leases tracts of land to oil companies so they can explore on it for oil. If enough oil is found during exploration, the company can then apply for a drilling permit which allows them to drill a well. If no oil is found during exploration, or if the amount found is not enough to be profitable the lease expires without ever being drilled on. Leases that are active, but not being drilled on does NOT mean that oil companies are being lazy, or are trying to keep the oil for themselves, etc. etc. It means they've either explored the lease for oil and found nothing, or found oil but it's not enough to justify drilling for. That's a fact...

7. it’s not Russia's fault, or China's fault, or Ukraine, or India, or Venezuela, or Iran, or Bangladesh, or any other countries' fault as to why everything is so expensive right now. It's Joe Biden's fault, because he is suppressing the domestic oil industry for political gain.

EVERYTHING depends on crude oil... but you might not know that if you believe the lies that are being told about oil and the oil industry.

EDUCATE YOURSELF…

Sure, the number of refineries shrunk under Trump, they can't produce another ounce of gas, oil companies insist they won't pump another drop, but it's all Biden's fault. Fvcking moron.