"Middle aged white folk"??? Correct it for me and I will apologize.That’s not what he said. Or implied.
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"Middle aged white folk"??? Correct it for me and I will apologize.That’s not what he said. Or implied.
But that's what he was looking for.That’s not what he said. Or implied.
He'll have to factor in probably of injury/seriousness of injury at Penn State vs. next years draft placement as well.No, follow the discussion.....he has more than a “once in a lifetime” chance.....he could have gone this year or next year. LionJim needs to confirm, but that’s more then once!
Most of the people on this board are middle aged white folk. That’s all."Middle aged white folk"??? Correct it for me and I will apologize.
Measurement day for WRs and not great results for KJ. But nothing you can do about your height, your arm length, your hand size or your wing-span.
But that being said, KJ measured under 5'9" (5'8" and change), measured small hands, short arms and a very short wing-span (abut 72"). Buy comparison, another "small" WR in this class, the guy from ASU had almost an 80" wing-span.
Don't think it hurts KJ too much. Teams knew he was "small". I believe teams either already liked him, regardless of his size, and had him on their boards. Or, did not like his size and did not have him on their boards. The teams who had KJ on their boards, probably still do, despite today's measurements.
IMO, his stock all comes down to the speed drills. He needs to rip off a totally ridiculous 40 time. If he can crank out a low 4.3, then all of a sudden those small hands, short arms and short wing-span become meaningless to teams. On the flip, if he has just "normal fast speed", like say something in the 4.4 range, then those measurements will be over-analyzed.
Probably not first round based on the amount of good wrs in the draft but somebody in the second round will be looking for exactly what he provides. Hopefully that means it’ll be a perfect fit for him.
Yeah, sorry to say I have a hard time disagreeing.Kudos....you get the prize for the stupidest subject line of the year.
That’s what it sounds like. KJ gave everything he had to Penn State. Great kid off the field too. Playing football is high risk. He has a chance to get paid for it rather well as long as he can be productive. One less year in the NFL is a large amount of money to pass up. He’s healthy now. He’ll test well and get paid. Serious injury next year with PSU and maybe he can’t do anything at the combine. Draft stock drops. Few hundred grand, maybe more gone. Hope he runs 4.2 and he gets drafted in the first round. Another great representative of Penn State.
Joe Burrow certainly hurt himself by coming back, didn’t he. I mean it’s not like he got bigger, so why would you go back??Yes. But I don't think a player can base their decision on whether or not their draft class is deep, because you never know who is going to emerge the next year. What if a handful of Soph/JR WRs emerge and have awesome 2020 seasons.... then next year becomes a deep draft.
Back in August Joe Burrow was considered a "game manager". He was definitely not projected to be a 1st round draft pick, let alone the #1 overall. Then Burrow had a great 2019 season.
You gotta do what is best for you at the moment.... if KJ felt turning pro now was best for him... then good for him and more power to him.
FWIW: Norwood's career was 42 games (whether that was over 8 years or not, IDK.... but if it was, most of it was as a "practice squad" type guy)
So why introduce race???Most of the people on this board are middle aged white folk. That’s all.
So why introduce race???
Thank you, Dale Carnegie.Because it will piss people like you the fvck off. So nice to see that it worked.
Thank you, Dale Carnegie.
Getting injured playing football is a risk. Did you know who Burrow was 24 months ago? I didn’t.Joe Burrow certainly hurt himself by coming back, didn’t he. I mean it’s not like he got bigger, so why would you go back??
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Pretty sure Norwood holds the longest punt return in Super Bowl History or did when the Broncos won it a couple of years ago. Hopefully the NFL GM's see Hamler as a Tyreek Hill type and he is picked in the 1st or 2nd round he did the right thing coming out early.That he fielded punts in the bowl game (opr am I mis-remembering) was pretty crazy (easy way to get injured). All props to the kid for all he for penn state -- he made a lot of gamers really enjoyable to watch!
Dale never had to deal with some of the assholes on this board.
YesGetting injured playing football is a risk. Did you know who Burrow was 24 months ago? I didn’t.
So why do they measure guys in Indy??? If they can simply size a guy by watching TV........ why waste time with scales and measuring devices in Indy
So mr thread boss, your argument is the GMs don’t consider combine measurables? Got it.This thread:
Yes, but NFL players are not the average personI thought average person's wingspan was equal to their height? That would mean his wingspan is above average for his height. Right?
Okay Mike Mamula.So mr thread boss, your argument is the GMs don’t consider combine measurables? Got it.
It ends up making $$$$ for bums like Mike Mamula who look good in gym shortsCombine season just makes me shake my head. Throw on Hamlers tape and enough said. Who cares about his wingspan, hand size etc. the kid is a player and, at worst,he’ll run in the 4.3s... no way he makes it past round 2. There are guys on the list that have impressive measurable but can’t get open and can’t catch.
That what she saidHand size is important for many reasons.
What if there all thumbs?Hand size is important for many reasons.
It ends up making $$$$ for bums like Mike Mamula who look good in gym shorts
First I didn’t say that. I never thought MM a bum. I don’t know how that quote was attributable to meHe did not than look good.
Who do you think averaged more sacks a season in the NFL, mamula or Brandon graham?
You have never of someones hands being referred to as all thumbs?What if....wtF did you just write to me