Next Three Years

[Ian]

Interesting post I found on another site.

Who Will Win the 2023, 2024 and 2025 NCAA Championships?

Who will win the next three NCAA championships.... Have you been pondering this recently? Are you bored? Worried the impending recession will torpedo society as we know it, landing us in a post-apocalyptic hellscape with no end in sight, and even more worrisome, no college wrestling? Fear no more...

board.themat.com

The OSU’s and ASU ascending but is Iowa gonna drop that much?

PSU will always be there.

“That’s what we do!”

 

[donboy6499]

Interesting post.
My only take is that A LOT has to go wrong in 2024 for PSU to finish 2nd. I could make a reasonable argument that it will be their best team yet if SVN/Bartlett/Haines/Facundo just stay on par with their reputations.

 

[El-Jefe]

Bouzakis outscores Feldman in their first year. Sure.

Gonzales cuts to 125 after a few years at 133.

Also amused by Kharchla getting 20 pts at 174 -- which is conceivable -- and the next highest scorer listed (Valencia) at 12.

One more: Elam > Ferrari in 2025.

 

[mcpat]

I have to wonder if NIL sets Ohio State up very favorably. Lots of businesses in Columbus from which to draw NIL deals. They’ve recruited well before, but it’s to another level now.

 

[El-Jefe]

I have to wonder if NIL sets Ohio State up very favorably. Lots of businesses in Columbus from which to draw NIL deals. They’ve recruited well before, but it’s to another level now.

Having more holes than a golf course might have been a factor.

 

[tullfan68]

wow this predictor really doesnt think much of a lot of these wrestlers!On all teams!

 

[Cali_Nittany]

Bouzakis outscores Feldman in their first year. Sure.

Gonzales cuts to 125 after a few years at 133.

Also amused by Kharchla getting 20 pts at 174 -- which is conceivable -- and the next highest scorer listed (Valencia) at 12.

One more: Elam > Ferrari in 2025.

Sasso with 20 @157 is also amusing.

 

[amattaro]

Interesting post I found on another site.

Who Will Win the 2023, 2024 and 2025 NCAA Championships?

Who will win the next three NCAA championships.... Have you been pondering this recently? Are you bored? Worried the impending recession will torpedo society as we know it, landing us in a post-apocalyptic hellscape with no end in sight, and even more worrisome, no college wrestling? Fear no more...

board.themat.com

The OSU’s and ASU ascending but is Iowa gonna drop that much?

PSU will always be there.

“That’s what we do!”

My corona calculator long since broke. Does Fix really have two years left, or is 2024 a hypothetical petition for an additional year to try to finally score an offensive point in the finals?

 

[Cali_Nittany]

My corona calculator long since broke. Does Fix really have two years left, or is 2024 a hypothetical petition for an additional year to try to finally score an offensive point in the finals?

Yes he does have 2 years left. He could be the first ever 5-time first runner-up.

 

[mcpat]

2018: RS
2019: 2nd
2020: Oly RS
2021: Did not count (2nd)
2022: 2nd

Only has used 2 years of eligibility

 

[NoVa Lion]

My corona calculator long since broke. Does Fix really have two years left, or is 2024 a hypothetical petition for an additional year to try to finally score an offensive point in the finals?

Fix does in fact have 2 years left.

 

[Ja1339]

Yes he does have 2 years left. He could be the first ever 5-time first runner-up.

That would be legendary 😆

 

[Sportfan2017]

Yes he does have 2 years left. He could be the first ever 5-time first runner-up.

Won't he legally have to move to Buffalo after this year?

 

[amattaro]

2018: RS
2019: 2nd
2020: Oly RS
2021: Did not count (2nd)
2022: 2nd

Only has used 2 years of eligibility

That’s right. He was drinking milkshakes in 2020 when the tournament got canceled.

 

[STAND with PRIDE]

2018: RS
2019: 2nd
2020: Oly RS
2021: Did not count (2nd)
2022: 2nd

Only has used 2 years of eligibility

Another 7th year senior. Hopefully he starts adding a little geritol in those shakes.

 

[nitlion6]

Another 7th year senior. Hopefully he starts adding a little geritol in those shakes.

Coe College Administrator Larry Lee and Iowa wrestling coach Tom Brands have been hanging outside the the Okie St wrestling room with cash bags and maps to the portal.

 

[Sportfan2017]

Unrelated but I thought I would post it here:
Cody Law lost his Bellator MMA fight yesterday by unanimous decision. That was his first loss. His record shows that he is 6-1 as a pro and was 5-0 in his amateur bouts. He is from Windber Pa. which is my hometown so the loss hurt a bit.

 

[El-Jefe]

That would be legendary 😆

 

[Chickenman Testa]

Coe College Administrator Larry Lee and Iowa wrestling coach Tom Brands have been hanging outside the the Okie St wrestling room with cash bags and maps to the portal.

Larry just wanted to talk with Fix. Told him that if Daton ever hurt his knee, Lar would be happy to counsel him through the rehab.

 

[matter7172]

You know this article is flawed. It doesn't include Rutgers in the analysis.

 

[danoftw]

Larry just wanted to talk with Fix. Told him that if Daton ever hurt his knee, Lar would be happy to counsel him through the rehab.

Fix-My knee hurts Uncle Lar
Lar-Let me wipe those tears and then I'll set up a meeting with Tom if you promise not to put Mineo on me

 

[Cowbell Man]

That’s a lot of teams sending 10 wrestlers, so…. no.

 

[82bordeaux]

Yes he does have 2 years left. He could be the first ever 5-time first runner-up.

That would make him the Carter Starocci of losers.

 

[El-Jefe]

That would make him the Carter Starocci of losers.

 

[86PSUPaul]

That would make him the Carter Starocci of losers.

@82bordeaux are you still in Europe or have you made it home to The US of A?

 

[BrockBronson]

Unrelated but I thought I would post it here:
Cody Law lost his Bellator MMA fight yesterday by unanimous decision. That was his first loss. His record shows that he is 6-1 as a pro and was 5-0 in his amateur bouts. He is from Windber Pa. which is my hometown so the loss hurt a bit.

Law is a hammer. The guy he fought was very tough on the ground. Cody is 6-1 and that guy is 9-5. Law will be back. He must be killing it though he is buying his mom new cars and paying off her house. I love these type of stories. Bellator must be paying well

 

[Raw Daddy]

Interesting post I found on another site.

Who Will Win the 2023, 2024 and 2025 NCAA Championships?

Who will win the next three NCAA championships.... Have you been pondering this recently? Are you bored? Worried the impending recession will torpedo society as we know it, landing us in a post-apocalyptic hellscape with no end in sight, and even more worrisome, no college wrestling? Fear no more...

board.themat.com

The OSU’s and ASU ascending but is Iowa gonna drop that much?

PSU will always be there.

“That’s what we do!”

I’ve asked my future grandchildren to buy me National Champs shirts for my birthday. My oldest son is 8.

 

[Dar.of.Emur]

I have to wonder if NIL sets Ohio State up very favorably. Lots of businesses in Columbus from which to draw NIL deals. They’ve recruited well before, but it’s to another level now.

Having more holes than a golf course might have been a factor.

Both statements are 100% accurate
I told my good friend ~ 3 years ago that tOSU would have a monster class of 2022, just based on Iowa and OSU having great classes in the previous years and full rosters, and Penn State only needing 1-2 guys a year to plug-and-play. There simply was not many holes in the rosters of the other top-5 level programs. tOSU was going to have a lot of 9.9 money open for 2022 class, and it came together very nicely.
NIL will certainly play a role going forward, but IMHO wrestlers are unique in that they favor goal-setting and personal glory above anything else, and will still go to what is perceived as the best training environment for themselves.

 

[Petch]

Both statements are 100% accurate
I told my good friend ~ 3 years ago that tOSU would have a monster class of 2022, just based on Iowa and OSU having great classes in the previous years and full rosters, and Penn State only needing 1-2 guys a year to plug-and-play. There simply was not many holes in the rosters of the other top-5 level programs. tOSU was going to have a lot of 9.9 money open for 2022 class, and it came together very nicely.
NIL will certainly play a role going forward, but IMHO wrestlers are unique in that they favor goal-setting and personal glory above anything else, and will still go to what is perceived as the best training environment for themselves.

Well, if they are ultimate championship goal setters and interested in the best training environment, wouldn’t they all just come to Penn State?

 

[District four]

Well, if they are ultimate championship goal setters and interested in the best training environment, wouldn’t they all just come to Penn State?

Yes. Yes they should lol

 

[matter7172]

Yes. Yes they should lol

Some might think that would wreck competitive balance.

 

[Dar.of.Emur]

Well, if they are ultimate championship goal setters and interested in the best training environment, wouldn’t they all just come to Penn State?

That was my point. I dont see NIL advantages of Columbus outweighing the training factors.
But, the NIL of Columbus certainly can get tOSU to a strong #2 tho, in a tier above Iowa, Cornell and OSU. After all, tOSU is not a bad place to train, its just not at the level of Penn St right now.

 

[82bordeaux]

@82bordeaux are you still in Europe or have you made it home to The US of A?

Just landed in Toronto

 

[Cali_Nittany]

Just landed in Toronto

The 51st state. Btw, I learned a good life lesson in Toronto. I had a work trip there once upon a time. Going thru customs I was asked, "are you here for business or pleasure?". I said business and I was immediately escorted to a back room. This was my 2nd ever business trip, fresh out of Penn State and I'm like, wth is going on? Fortunately, no cavity searches. 30 minutes of questions centered around why are you here to take a Canadian job.

I've been to Canada several times since, I always say I'm here on vacation.

 

[McScoreley]

Ohio State will be a tough out in the next three years. Hard to envision Mendez, Bouzakis not being studs in addition to Feldman obviously being a sure one. Sasso is still young but I think he's closer to his ceiling already (which is damn good) but I actually think Kharchla's ceiling is much better than what he showed last year. I'm not super high on Paddy to be honest. His match against Levi actually is the main reason (only time I watched him closely) even though he almost won, he was backpedaling to the edge the entire time when he sensed he was threatened.

Mendez was impressing in senior level then Bouzakis beats him out for the junior team. I'm not super high on Shumate but am higher on Geog. Surprised they weren't able to flip Fishback in the 11th hour tbh. Rocco Welsh will just be another PA stud. I'm hoping I'm wrong but depending on how much he grows, I think Sealey probably fits Ohio State's lineup the best.

That being said, I like our guys and we still have Brooks, Starocci and Kerk for a bit. We have all our lineup needs filled and Cael isn't done. I know it's early but Starocci seems to be interested in pursuing being a 5 timer (obviously take it one year at a time) but if he falls short, he strikes me as a guy that is motivated to return. I know it's iffy how much longer Kerk plans to wrestle for but I think he can be convinced similar to RBY for the right NIL deal and being allowed flexibility to pursue his MMA career on the side. After all, we have a MMA gym right here in State College (thanks Bo!)

 

[Chickenman Testa]

That was my point. I dont see NIL advantages of Columbus outweighing the training factors.
But, the NIL of Columbus certainly can get tOSU to a strong #2 tho, in a tier above Iowa, Cornell and OSU. After all, tOSU is not a bad place to train, its just not at the level of Penn St right now.

tOSU was well on its way to strong #2 or ascending to the 1st tier to challenge PSU on an annual basis when they opened the new facility, had Snyder and Logan doing well in freestyle, etc - then they just strangely stalled. Then Snyder leaving seemed to be a huge body blow. Credit to Ryan and crew for digging in and climbing again. I truly think it’s our 2 massive state schools in the heart of wrestling country that are the future of college wrestling.

 

[El-Jefe]

I truly think it’s our 2 massive state schools in the heart of wrestling country that are the future of college wrestling.

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[McScoreley]

Snyder going to NLWC cost them Kerkvliet, sure but Decatur, Kinner, Mattox, Echemendia all not panning out was the result of poor scouting. A lot of it was off the mat stuff I'm sure but still, that's part of the vetting process.

 

[zzs006]

Snyder going to NLWC cost them Kerkvliet, sure but Decatur, Kinner, Mattox, Echemendia all not panning out was the result of poor scouting. A lot of it was off the mat stuff I'm sure but still, that's part of the vetting process.

I think most everyone was wrong on Echemendia though. Most thought he would have some trouble acclimating to folk which he did obviously but no one saw the off mat issues. Decatur is a different story. I’m not sure how anyone who watched him wrestle folk in high school thought he would be a super high level guy in college. College wrestling is so much tougher than hs and I never watched a match of his where he didn’t take at least 2 or 3 injury/lunger timeouts. No way that was going to translate to the big10.

 

[tullfan68]

LOL doesnt matter how many no 1 kids you get coaching is what counts in college!OSU can keep winning the recruiting no 1,PSU will keep winning the titles!