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----No disrespect intended but...
Couple more and they can match the Steelers!!
So many rings we should be a planet.
Well, If they could beat the Giants, they would have matched the Steelers already. The Giants are Cheater beaters. Truth, Justice and the American Way!
Let's all tap the brakes a bit shall we...
In the decade prior to Rydze's tenure, many Steelers also admitted to using steroids to gain an advantage. Former Steelers quarterback Terry Bradshaw admitted in 2008 that he used steroids during his playing career. Bradshaw said on Dan Patrick's radio show: “We did steroids to get away the aches and the speed of healing. My use of steroids from a doctor was to speed up injury, and thought nothing of it. It was to speed up the healing process, that was it. It wasn't to get bigger and stronger and faster.”
In 1976, the Pittsburgh Steelers hosted the Oakland Raiders in bitter cold conditions with the AFC title on the line. The night before the game, the tarp protecting the field apparently ripped, causing nasty conditions on the field. The Raiders alleged that the Steelers head groundskeeper -- Steve "Dirt" Dinardo -- intentionally worsened the field conditions by hosing down the turf in strategic areas.
Former Pittsburgh Steelers head coach Bill Cowher admitted that his Steelers teams stole opponents' defensive signals. In an interview with a local radio station he said: "The only thing they [The Patriots] got caught (was) doing it with a camera. We had people that always tried to steal signals. Stealing someone's signals was a part of the game, and everyone attempted to do that."
In the decade prior to Rydze's tenure, many Steelers also admitted to using steroids to gain an advantage. Former Steelers quarterback Terry Bradshaw admitted in 2008 that he used steroids during his playing career. Bradshaw said on Dan Patrick's radio show: “We did steroids to get away the aches and the speed of healing. My use of steroids from a doctor was to speed up injury, and thought nothing of it. It was to speed up the healing process, that was it. It wasn't to get bigger and stronger and faster.”
In 1976, the Pittsburgh Steelers hosted the Oakland Raiders in bitter cold conditions with the AFC title on the line. The night before the game, the tarp protecting the field apparently ripped, causing nasty conditions on the field. The Raiders alleged that the Steelers head groundskeeper -- Steve "Dirt" Dinardo -- intentionally worsened the field conditions by hosing down the turf in strategic areas.
Former Pittsburgh Steelers head coach Bill Cowher admitted that his Steelers teams stole opponents' defensive signals. In an interview with a local radio station he said: "The only thing they [The Patriots] got caught (was) doing it with a camera. We had people that always tried to steal signals. Stealing someone's signals was a part of the game, and everyone attempted to do that."
Correct me if I'm wrong but: steroids were NOT illegal then, no?
Have another bowl of Cheaties sir!
Have another bowl of Cheaties sir!
If I remember a great coach once said...and I am paraphrasing (you do know what that means?)...anyway, this great coach who won 409 games said that success without honor is like an unseasoned dish. It will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste very good. Bill and Tom can revel in the pact they signed with the devil...or was it with Disney? Oh..same thing...my bad.
No disrespect intended but...
The NFL has not proven the footballs were actually deflated on purpose...and Wheaties are for children.
Cheating....
In May of 1978, the Pittsburgh Steelers were caught running an illegal off-season practice and stripped of their third-round pick in the 1979 draft by commissioner Pete Rozelle. Steelers players -- 29 rookies and about 15 veterans -- were discovered practicing in pads during a late May rookie camp, which was not allowed by NFL rules. The team tried to cover-up their cheating by doing it in a closed practice in Three Rivers Stadium, but local beat write John Clayton (now with ESPN) discovered the infraction and published it in the June 1, 1978 edition of The Pittsburgh Press
In May of 1978, the Pittsburgh Steelers were caught running an illegal off-season practice and stripped of their third-round pick in the 1979 draft by commissioner Pete Rozelle. Steelers players -- 29 rookies and about 15 veterans -- were discovered practicing in pads during a late May rookie camp, which was not allowed by NFL rules. The team tried to cover-up their cheating by doing it in a closed practice in Three Rivers Stadium, but local beat write John Clayton (now with ESPN) discovered the infraction and published it in the June 1, 1978 edition of The Pittsburgh Press
During the 1970s nearly every athlete was using steroids, either to speed the recovery period, or to bulk up and gain muscle mass. Furthermore, it isn't cheating if it isn't against the rules.
The 1979 incident was reported and The Steelers paid the price. So The Patriots have been caught, and Tom Brady has been caught, and therefore they have to pay the price. BTW - Levon Bell has been suspended for his part in an off field incident in which he was caught driving while weed was being smoked in his car... with your Legarette Blount. He didn't appeal his suspension - The NFLPA did - and he has accepted the 2 game suspension. I'm so sick of Patriots fans. Your team stretches the rules more than any other team in the league, when you get caught you cry that your team is being discriminated against... funny Patriots fans crying, just like your starting QB. LOL
The 1979 incident was reported and The Steelers paid the price. So The Patriots have been caught, and Tom Brady has been caught, and therefore they have to pay the price. BTW - Levon Bell has been suspended for his part in an off field incident in which he was caught driving while weed was being smoked in his car... with your Legarette Blount. He didn't appeal his suspension - The NFLPA did - and he has accepted the 2 game suspension. I'm so sick of Patriots fans. Your team stretches the rules more than any other team in the league, when you get caught you cry that your team is being discriminated against... funny Patriots fans crying, just like your starting QB. LOL
No. There's no comparison at all between an off season practice and a deliberate action to manipulate the actual game balls just prior to the start of a game.
Steelers won championships under three different head coaches, so unless all were dirty your argument is mud. The deflate stuff would have gone away quickly had the Patriots not cheated in the past, but sorry they did. Bottom line, there isn't a single Patriots' Superbowl victory that has been won without them breaking the rules in some way.Also if these violations are so minor and give such a minimal advantage then why risk breaking the rules at all. Obviously Brady felt in this instance (and Belichick with spygate) that it gave them enough of an advantage to risk get caught and facing league punishment.
Patriots fans always wonder why people in general hate Brady and Belichick. It isn't because they are winning, it is because they are holier than thou cheaters who are winning. People don't hate Tim Duncan and Greg Popovich and they had their own dynasty.
Patriots fans always wonder why people in general hate Brady and Belichick. It isn't because they are winning, it is because they are holier than thou cheaters who are winning. People don't hate Tim Duncan and Greg Popovich and they had their own dynasty.
I really don't give a sh*t if people love/hate Brady and Bill. What I do find amazing is the level of hypocrisy masked as contempt. It is a fact, confirmed by many former NFL coaches (see Cowher) that every team in the NFL has at one time or another sought to gain an advantage by stealing other teams signals. The year AFTER the Pats were punished they went 16-0 and were one fluke catch away from an undefeated season. This whole delfategate thing is a joke and you (if you are honest) know it as well. In fact the NFL was soundly defeated when they tried to prove the footballs in the Colts game were actually deflated. There is a fine line between gamesmanship and out-in-out cheating. I would submit the Pats are superior at pushing the envelope to gain an advantage. The Steelers did the same in the 70's... push the limit to do anything to win. To continue to ride the "cheaters" label on the Pats indefeasible, unreasonable, and petty. The Pats have made it to 9 of the last 14 AFC championships. To accomplish that takes a great more than signal stealing and -1 psi.
Patriots have two things going against them in this instance:
- Their history of cheating...this isn't a one-time deal.
- Their blatant disregard once caught. Anyone would have to be a fool to believe that a ball boy is going to F with Brady's balls before an AFC championship game without specific instructions from TB and BB. Then, once caught, they tried to get away with it. They should have simply fessed up and taken a fine and a late round pick. Shades of Watergate where the coverup was worse than the crime.
bwifan
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Or you could just film your opponents practice's like the Patriots did... Makes it so much easier when you know what your opponents are going to run and how they plan on attacking your offense and defense no???...
Or you could just film your opponents practice's like the Patriots did... Makes it so much easier when you know what your opponents are going to run and how they plan on attacking your offense and defense no???...
Certainly would have helped Napoléon at Waterloo bwifan!
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!
EricStratton, you do got this going in your favor however:
But, when you add cheating into the mix, in muddies the water substantially.
But, when you add cheating into the mix, in muddies the water substantially.
"holier than thou cheaters" Now how many times have I heard that epitaph used to describe Joe Paterno and Penn State ??
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