Moderna Trial Data Shows vaccinated have a lower anti-N antibody conversion rate than the unvaccinated at all levels of viral load

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In other words, these novel gene therapy shots cripple your immune system, so yes it gives you VAIDS. Oopsies! Link to pre-print study pointing this out:

Anti-nucleocapsid antibodies following SARS-CoV-2 infection in the blinded phase of the mRNA-1273 Covid-19 vaccine efficacy clinical trial​


"Results We analyzed data from 1,789 participants (1,298 placebo recipients and 491 vaccine recipients) with SARS-CoV-2 infection during the blinded phase (through March 2021). Among participants with PCR-confirmed Covid-19 illness, seroconversion to anti-N Abs at a median follow up of 53 days post diagnosis occurred in 21/52 (40%) of the mRNA-1273 vaccine recipients vs. 605/648 (93%) of the placebo recipients (p < 0.001). Higher SARS-CoV-2 viral copies at diagnosis was associated with a higher likelihood of anti-N Ab seropositivity (odds ratio 1.90 per 1-log increase; 95% confidence interval 1.59, 2.28).

Conclusions and Relevance As a marker of recent infection, anti-N Abs may have lower sensitivity in mRNA-1273-vaccinated persons who become infected. Vaccination status should be considered when interpreting seroprevalence and seropositivity data based solely on anti-N Ab testing"

Link to Moderna Trial:

Link to article disucssing the significance of the pre-print study:
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/moderna-trial-data-pandemic-vaccinated"

"...The authors’ findings, which are corroborated by U.K. data that demonstrate the rates of infection are significantly higher in the vaccinated, suggest Moderna knew of this safety signal in 2020 when the vaccine maker was conducting its trials...."
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As the data above demonstrate, the vaccinated have a lower anti-N antibody conversion rate than the unvaccinated at all levels of viral load.

This is one of the most significant findings of the study because it overturns the heretofore unchallenged idea that decreased seroconversion in the vaccinated is due to less severe infection in this population — which is a benefit provided by the vaccine.

However, this new study shows that even at low viral loads, the unvaccinated are more likely to seroconvert than those who are vaccinated.

In fact, the difference in seroconversion rates is the greatest at lowest viral loads.

The decrease in conversion rates is not a result of a benefit from the vaccine. It is a consequence of it...."
 
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WeR0206

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In other words, these novel gene therapy shots cripple your immune system, so yes it gives you VAIDS. Oopsies! Link to pre-print study pointing this out:

Anti-nucleocapsid antibodies following SARS-CoV-2 infection in the blinded phase of the mRNA-1273 Covid-19 vaccine efficacy clinical trial​


"Results We analyzed data from 1,789 participants (1,298 placebo recipients and 491 vaccine recipients) with SARS-CoV-2 infection during the blinded phase (through March 2021). Among participants with PCR-confirmed Covid-19 illness, seroconversion to anti-N Abs at a median follow up of 53 days post diagnosis occurred in 21/52 (40%) of the mRNA-1273 vaccine recipients vs. 605/648 (93%) of the placebo recipients (p < 0.001). Higher SARS-CoV-2 viral copies at diagnosis was associated with a higher likelihood of anti-N Ab seropositivity (odds ratio 1.90 per 1-log increase; 95% confidence interval 1.59, 2.28).

Conclusions and Relevance As a marker of recent infection, anti-N Abs may have lower sensitivity in mRNA-1273-vaccinated persons who become infected. Vaccination status should be considered when interpreting seroprevalence and seropositivity data based solely on anti-N Ab testing"

Link to Moderna Trial:

Link to article disucssing the significance of the pre-print study:
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/moderna-trial-data-pandemic-vaccinated"

"...The authors’ findings, which are corroborated by U.K. data that demonstrate the rates of infection are significantly higher in the vaccinated, suggest Moderna knew of this safety signal in 2020 when the vaccine maker was conducting its trials...."
unvaccinated-anti-N-response-1024x531.jpg

"...
As the data above demonstrate, the vaccinated have a lower anti-N antibody conversion rate than the unvaccinated at all levels of viral load.

This is one of the most significant findings of the study because it overturns the heretofore unchallenged idea that decreased seroconversion in the vaccinated is due to less severe infection in this population — which is a benefit provided by the vaccine.

However, this new study shows that even at low viral loads, the unvaccinated are more likely to seroconvert than those who are vaccinated.

In fact, the difference in seroconversion rates is the greatest at lowest viral loads.

The decrease in conversion rates is not a result of a benefit from the vaccine. It is a consequence of it...."
The OP talks about the vaccine disabling part of your adaoptive immune response (antibodies). The below study shows how it disables your innate immune response as well. So it takes out both branches of your immune system (innate and adaptive). Pure evil.

The vaccinated are going to become an enormous burden on society. Imagine what impact disabling the innate immune system in hundreds of millions of people would have? That’s what we’re looking at here.

https://www.researchgate.net/public...role_of_G-quadruplexes_exosomes_and_microRNAs (Innate Immune Suppression by SARS-CoV-2 mRNA Vaccinations: The role of G-quadruplexes, exosomes and microRNAs)

Are all 1,000 of these studies wrong?

https://www.saveusnow.org.uk/covid-vaccine-scientific-proof-lethal (List of 1,000 plus studies showing the covid19 vaccine is dangerous)
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...ive-evidence-covid-19-vaccines-adverse-events

Are all the massive safety signals we are seeing in VAERS, CMS, Yellowcard, EUdras, Vigi Access, and DMED all wrong? Just a coincidence? Same thing with the huge increase in deaths in working aged people reported in the life insurance and funeral services quarterly reports?
 
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More @WeR0206 bullshit. Lots of meaningless statistics. Vaccinated people might get COVID, but they don’t die. The unvaccinated get COVID and have much greater mortality rates. We all know this from living through the post two years.
 
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More @WeR0206 bullshit. Lots of meaningless statistics. Vaccinated people might get COVID, but they don’t die. The unvaccinated get COVID and have much greater mortality rates. We all know this from living through the post two years.
You refuted your third sentence with your fourth. I’m just sayin’...
 
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When are all the heros that mandated this stuff going to be executed ? What happened to hippa and all the other rights we have all taken for granted ? They still won't let people who were fired go back to work at old jobs. I am surprised mandates aren't coming up as a MAJOR issue in the primary. I do not want to vote for anyone who supports mandates.
 

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More @WeR0206 bullshit. Lots of meaningless statistics. Vaccinated people might get COVID, but they don’t die. The unvaccinated get COVID and have much greater mortality rates. We all know this from living through the post two years.
Not sure if you’re even able to grasp this but a p value of .001 is far from meaningless.

Wtf are you talking about? Vaccinated people die all the time. In fact the majority of deaths right now in the UK and elsewhere are vaccinated.

Also see the Office for national statistics deaths by vaccination status dataset, England. For 10-14 year olds there’s a massive difference in mortality rates between unvaccinated and vaccinated (1 and 2 doses).

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I am vaccinated with the booster and take supplements like zinc at 50 mg daily. Have been exposed to covid the entire pandemic both professionally in healthcare and personally with family and friends. I have never contracted covid. I have not had the flu in over a decade. I have had one cold since 2020 and have only called out sick twice in the last several years (food poisoning and strep.) I practice both natural supplemental and conventional vaccination (flu and covid) approaches. It works for me. I do not believe the nonsense in this message thread from the typical misguided souls.
 

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I am vaccinated with the booster and take supplements like zinc at 50 mg daily. Have been exposed to covid the entire pandemic both professionally in healthcare and personally with family and friends. I have never contracted covid. I have not had the flu in over a decade. I have had one cold since 2020 and have only called out sick twice in the last several years (food poisoning and strep.) I practice both natural supplemental and conventional vaccination (flu and covid) approaches. It works for me. I do not believe the nonsense in this message thread from the typical misguided souls.

Whupty do. What does that prove ? I was at my last job 26 years. Took one sick day near the very end to help an ill family member. 4 sick days in 41 years. 2 for job interviews. 1 for sore back. Never even late for car trouble. Get a grip.
 
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Every time I see this kind of data I personally know someone that fits it exactly. Why continue with mandates. All of a sudden today the J and J shot is bad again. Not enough kickbacks. Most of the people I know forced to get a shot to keep a job they needed picked j and j on the last day.
 
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I am vaccinated with the booster. I practice both natural supplemental and conventional vaccination (flu and covid) approaches.
I loved your naive use of the phrase “conventional vaccination” to describe the “clot shot”.

Did you know that a former poster on the Main board recently died of blood clots in the brain?

He was fully vaxxed and boosted.
 

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In other words, these novel gene therapy shots cripple your immune system, so yes it gives you VAIDS. Oopsies! Link to pre-print study pointing this out:

Anti-nucleocapsid antibodies following SARS-CoV-2 infection in the blinded phase of the mRNA-1273 Covid-19 vaccine efficacy clinical trial​


"Results We analyzed data from 1,789 participants (1,298 placebo recipients and 491 vaccine recipients) with SARS-CoV-2 infection during the blinded phase (through March 2021). Among participants with PCR-confirmed Covid-19 illness, seroconversion to anti-N Abs at a median follow up of 53 days post diagnosis occurred in 21/52 (40%) of the mRNA-1273 vaccine recipients vs. 605/648 (93%) of the placebo recipients (p < 0.001). Higher SARS-CoV-2 viral copies at diagnosis was associated with a higher likelihood of anti-N Ab seropositivity (odds ratio 1.90 per 1-log increase; 95% confidence interval 1.59, 2.28).

Conclusions and Relevance As a marker of recent infection, anti-N Abs may have lower sensitivity in mRNA-1273-vaccinated persons who become infected. Vaccination status should be considered when interpreting seroprevalence and seropositivity data based solely on anti-N Ab testing"

Link to Moderna Trial:

Link to article disucssing the significance of the pre-print study:
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/moderna-trial-data-pandemic-vaccinated"

"...The authors’ findings, which are corroborated by U.K. data that demonstrate the rates of infection are significantly higher in the vaccinated, suggest Moderna knew of this safety signal in 2020 when the vaccine maker was conducting its trials...."
unvaccinated-anti-N-response-1024x531.jpg

"...
As the data above demonstrate, the vaccinated have a lower anti-N antibody conversion rate than the unvaccinated at all levels of viral load.

This is one of the most significant findings of the study because it overturns the heretofore unchallenged idea that decreased seroconversion in the vaccinated is due to less severe infection in this population — which is a benefit provided by the vaccine.

However, this new study shows that even at low viral loads, the unvaccinated are more likely to seroconvert than those who are vaccinated.

In fact, the difference in seroconversion rates is the greatest at lowest viral loads.

The decrease in conversion rates is not a result of a benefit from the vaccine. It is a consequence of it...."
Yep, the “vaccines” are damaging T-cell responses. Allowing Epstein-Barr, Herpes, Mono, Shingles etc to explode

 

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The OP talks about the vaccine disabling part of your adaoptive immune response (antibodies). The below study shows how it disables your innate immune response as well. So it takes out both branches of your immune system (innate and adaptive). Pure evil.

The vaccinated are going to become an enormous burden on society. Imagine what impact disabling the innate immune system in hundreds of millions of people would have? That’s what we’re looking at here.

https://www.researchgate.net/public...role_of_G-quadruplexes_exosomes_and_microRNAs (Innate Immune Suppression by SARS-CoV-2 mRNA Vaccinations: The role of G-quadruplexes, exosomes and microRNAs)

Are all 1,000 of these studies wrong?

https://www.saveusnow.org.uk/covid-vaccine-scientific-proof-lethal (List of 1,000 plus studies showing the covid19 vaccine is dangerous)
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...ive-evidence-covid-19-vaccines-adverse-events

Are all the massive safety signals we are seeing in VAERS, CMS, Yellowcard, EUdras, Vigi Access, and DMED all wrong? Just a coincidence? Same thing with the huge increase in deaths in working aged people reported in the life insurance and funeral services quarterly reports?
Doo.....doo....doodle....doodle....doo...doo....doo....dooup!
 

knickslions

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I loved your naive use of the phrase “conventional vaccination” to describe the “clot shot”.

Did you know that a former poster on the Main board recently died of blood clots in the brain?

He was fully vaxxed and boosted.
Nice try dumbass. Glov had health issues and blood clot issues well before Covid. Go make up another conspiracy
 

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Yep, the “vaccines” are damaging T-cell responses. Allowing Epstein-Barr, Herpes, Mono, Shingles etc to explode


I have been wondering about this myself. I got my 2nd Shingles vaccine in Sept 2020 and my first Covid vaccination (Pfizer) in Feb 2021. I contracted Covid and tested positive for it 9 days after the first immunization.

Then in Nov of 2021 I contracted Shingles. It turned out to only be about a half dollar sized patch of shingles on the left side of my chest. Since then I have had a very tiny spot of Shingles come back in the same spot twice, which from what I understand from doing research is rare, but not impossible.

In that same period of a little over a year since I got my first Covid vaccine, I have received my 2nd Covid vaccine (Pfizer) plus a first (Moderna) and second (J&J) booster. I am beginning to believe in the connection between the Covid vaccines and the Shingles outbreaks myself. Perhaps I am in the unlucky 10% that the Shingles vaccine doesn't work for?
 

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I have been wondering about this myself. I got my 2nd Shingles vaccine in Sept 2020 and my first Covid vaccination (Pfizer) in Feb 2021. I contracted Covid and tested positive for it 9 days after the first immunization.

Then in Nov of 2021 I contracted Shingles. It turned out to only be about a half dollar sized patch of shingles on the left side of my chest. Since then I have had a very tiny spot of Shingles come back in the same spot twice, which from what I understand from doing research is rare, but not impossible.

In that same period of a little over a year since I got my first Covid vaccine, I have received my 2nd Covid vaccine (Pfizer) plus a first (Moderna) and second (J&J) booster. I am beginning to believe in the connection between the Covid vaccines and the Shingles outbreaks myself. Perhaps I am in the unlucky 10% that the Shingles vaccine doesn't work for?
Sorry to hear about your shingles outbreak. I haven’t experienced it myself but know of family members who have. Certainly not something to be underestimated.

Please be aggressive in addressing your lingering shingles outbreak.
 
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Nice try dumbass. Glov had health issues and blood clot issues well before Covid. Go make up another conspiracy
I would never “name names” so I will just say that “said poster” only had kidney stone and blood clot issues after having been jabbed.

Chronology of events, including dates and times, mean something to me.

The archives don’t lie. I encourage you to go search posts made by “said poster”
 
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I loved your naive use of the phrase “conventional vaccination” to describe the “clot shot”.

Did you know that a former poster on the Main board recently died of blood clots in the brain?

He was fully vaxxed and boosted.
That proves absolutely nothing BW Lion “fan.” Fans use broken logic and conspiracy theories to describe the world. You are certainly a fan and not an alum.
 

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That proves absolutely nothing BW Lion “fan.” Fans use broken logic and conspiracy theories to describe the world. You are certainly a fan and not an alum.
The Archives don’t lie. They’re just a repository of both useful and inane information.

p.s. I’m an alum. In fact, I am a lifetime member of the PSUAA, the membership benefits of which are still questionable. They periodically send me decals along with pleas for $$$. They get tossed
 
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Every day more comes out. All of these people are real with real problems.
 

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I would never “name names” so I will just say that “said poster” only had kidney stone and blood clot issues after having been jabbed.

Chronology of events, including dates and times, mean something to me.

The archives don’t lie. I encourage you to go search posts made by “said poster”
What archives a message board? Glov had health issues for years prior to Covid. Keep grasping at straws
 

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Every day more comes out. All of these people are real with real problems.
Very sad. These people need to be charged with crimes against humanity.

Here's more corroboration of the OP:

The BNT162b2 mRNA vaccine against SARS-CoV-2 reprograms both adaptive and innate immune responses​


And another one: