Manchin: He's OK with spending ANOTHER $400Billion on this latest boondoggle because it will reduce inflation....

KnightWhoSaysNit

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Who would you like to pay for the cost of government? You seem to complain no matter what the situation is. You complain if the poor pay through inflation, now you complain if the rich pay through corporate taxation.

The cost of government should not be increasing. Period.

The money supply should not have increased 40% over two years. Period.

And finally, government should not be shutting down business or getting in its way. Period.
 

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For what it's worth, I will usually be complaining when a cabal like this version of the Democratic Party is in control. In nearly every policy area they are not only wrong, but creating great long term harm. The American people have no idea how bad this is going to get. Should the dollar ever lose reserve currency status, look out. 10-20% inflation will look good.

We are surviving only because the rest of the world is even worse. Europe has shown us what stupidity buys. Asia thumbs their nose while under the weight of fascism and communism. Meanwhile, the USA thinks it can continue as the world's policeman and supply of no-strings-attached free money -- on the backs of American taxpayers and now consumers.
 
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Catch50

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Well, that does it folks. The final proof that the Dem/Soc ideology is a mental disorder. Manchin seemed to have only a mild case of it, but I guess having Covid on top of Leftitis was too much for him. Scratch the surface and he's a true Dem/Soc at heart. I wonder what the payoff was? Last time it was a cushy position for the Mrs...... as I recall he had a daughter who tried to gouge the public for the heroin antidote drug. She's probably in line for Fauci's position or something now.

I loved his explanation that the money he just agreed to spend would go to provide more energy to the nation and that would lower inflation because energy prices are at the root of the inflation problem. Hmmm, you'd think a Senator from West F'n Virginia might come up with a few other ways to increase the energy supply to the nation without spending $400 Billion dollars on Dem/Soc giveaways.

He should really be defeated in his Senate race in November. He's proven you have to watch what Dem/Soc do in an election year, not what they say. Actually, he's more despicable than the likes of Schumer and Warren and Sanders..... they tell you right out they are socialists who want one party control. Dopes like Manchin are the worst kind of enablers. They do crazy shit "for all the right reasons"....yeah, right.
What unemployment rate would you accept? Forget it ... you won't answer.
 

junior1

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What unemployment rate would you accept? Forget it ... you won't answer.
you didn't ask me, but I'd like to comment...
the unemployment rate is only part of the equation....you need to look at the participation rate as well. Right now the employment participation rate is about 1.5% lower than before the pandemic. The number of jobs still about 525,000 fewer than before the pandemic, but the unemployment rate looks really good but only tells part of the story.
Similarly it's wonderful to talk about the higher wages for workers...but when you add in the rate of inflation real wages are actually lower.
what was that old saying about statistics and liars? only an expression, not calling anyone a liar
 

PSUcup1

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His seat is safe. No way he gets the boot.
It's a great bill that reduces both the deficit and helps lower inflation - reduced prescription/health costs, increase energy production, and increase tax receipts from corps and hedge fund traders.

he did 11 points worse in the 2018 election than in 2012. In 2018 he got less than 50% of the vote and likely would have lost if not for a 3rd party libertarian on the ballot.

he will be 76 years old in ‘24. I’d wager he loses or doesn’t seek re-election (he doesn’t need the money)
 

Dzapper

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he did 11 points worse in the 2018 election than in 2012. In 2018 he got less than 50% of the vote and likely would have lost if not for a 3rd party libertarian on the ballot.

he will be 76 years old in ‘24. I’d wager he loses or doesn’t seek re-election (he doesn’t need the money)
In my OP I wondered what his payoff was going to be. I see that he negotiated the end of some restrictions on a pipeline deal for WVA. That's it? No, I think the good Senator will probably get a little personal somethin-somethin out of all of this somehow.

You are right about him losing favor in WVA as his party gets more and more out of sync with the voters there. He must realize it's now or never in scoring some big bucks by selling out his constituents. Too bad.
 
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roswelllion

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C’mon, Ros. You are one of the cons I like.
Is it my position or my spelling word/choice that caught your ire? By throw him out I meant vote him out. W.Va right now is probably the most R state in the country right now. I think I read a few months back that the every statewide or federal elected position in the state is R. Do you think his state supports this bill?

BTW Kudo's to Pelosi for going ahead with the trip. Didn't you say none of us cons would applaud the trip.
 

Catch50

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you didn't ask me, but I'd like to comment...
the unemployment rate is only part of the equation....you need to look at the participation rate as well. Right now the employment participation rate is about 1.5% lower than before the pandemic. The number of jobs still about 525,000 fewer than before the pandemic, but the unemployment rate looks really good but only tells part of the story.
Similarly it's wonderful to talk about the higher wages for workers...but when you add in the rate of inflation real wages are actually lower.
what was that old saying about statistics and liars? only an expression, not calling anyone a liar
If the unemployment rate was higher, the participation rate would be higher.
 

Vic Vaselino

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Is it my position or my spelling word/choice that caught your ire? By throw him out I meant vote him out. W.Va right now is probably the most R state in the country right now. I think I read a few months back that the every statewide or federal elected position in the state is R. Do you think his state supports this bill?

BTW Kudo's to Pelosi for going ahead with the trip. Didn't you say none of us cons would applaud the trip.
Right now you're very funny right now.
 

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