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Wins in the 6 years after JVP was fired 51. Wins in JVP's final 6 years, including his last which he didn't have the opportunity to complete 54.
All time football record 856-379-37
JVP record 409-136-3
all others 447-243-31
end of discussion.
wins were restored assholeWell, that gets an "F" as far as a "rigorous analysis" goes. You didn't control for ANYTHING!
There was, for instance, something that occurred in Indianapolis, Indiana at 9 AM ET on 24-July-2012 that should probably be controlled for.
Do you recall such an event?
JVP 24 bowl victories
all others 5
wins were restored asshole
It was beyond the minimum to even follow up with him. That was the issue. Try to keep up.McQueary being satisfied would be important because?
AP top 10 finishes JVP 23
All other coaches 4
It was beyond the minimum to even follow up with him. That was the issue. Try to keep up.
Jesus. You are really having trouble with this, eh?It wasn't far enough beyond the minimum to keep his reputation from being ruined. That's the real issue.
JVP 24 bowl victories
all others 5
When Coach Franklin retires, his winning percentage in the Big Ten will be much higher
than Paterno's. Bet on it.
James is doing a great job 4 years in. Let me know how it looks in 41 years.Probably true. Despite a 2-6 record in 2014 (a record that could be partially blamed on the NCAA sanctions), Franklin's basically there already (.629 vs. .638).
James is doing a great job 4 years in. Let me know how it looks in 41 years.
Actually some people are just fine with James passing Joe by as that is a pretty high bar. Believe it or not some people like Joe and James....unlike you. I find it funny you think PSU fans would be upset if the new HC did better than the all time winningest coach ever. A man who had 5 undefeated seasons and 2 NC's....yeah...damn James if he starts doing that. People will really be pissed. You really don't even think about what you're saying anymore.We'll see.
If the win% is higher than .638, a certain faction of "Paterno Loyalits" (like yourself) might shift the goalposts to "absolute # of wins", however.
I cheer for PSU to win every game. Nothing that happens in the future...good or bad...will diminish Joe's contributions to Penn State.We'll see.
If the win% is higher than .638, a certain faction of "Paterno Loyalits" (like yourself) might shift the goalposts to "absolute # of wins", however.
Yeah. Talk about a false choice. I Love 'em both. It takes a chucklehead like Michy to pretend there are only 2 ways to look at it.Actually some people are just fine with James passing Joe by as that is a pretty high bar. Believe it or not some people like Joe and James....unlike you.
Actually some people are just fine with James passing Joe by as that is a pretty high bar. Believe it or not some people like Joe and James....unlike you.
In his little feeble head you either hate Joe or love James...you can't possibly do both. I still have a ton of respect for what OB did under the circumstances. Hell if Watson didn't get hurt they were starting to really become a threat in the AFC minus Watt. Oh wait...I can't say that because I like Joe...so screw OB and James I guess.Yeah. Talk about a false choice. I Love 'em both. It takes a chucklehead like Michy to pretend there are only 2 ways to look at it.
This "rigorous analysis" also gets an "F". You failed to at least acknowledge the fact that not every PSU coach coached in the same number of Bowl games. JVP, in fact, doesn't even have the highest win percentage among all PSU coaches who have coached at least 4 Bowl games.
What's to respond to? JoePa was a liar (he knew about 1998 in 2001 - even Curley said this at last year's trial), Joe's arrogance led to him getting fired, and Joe never followed up with anyone in a position of power (following up with McQueary is meaningless, given Joe was his boss - what was MM going to say?) in 2001 or afterwards as regards Sandusky.
I'm not saying Joe was evil incarnate. But the above simply isn't statue-worthy behavior.
Many people believe that those traits were in question regarding Paterno's actions or lack of
in 2011 and caused his downfall.
James is doing a great job 4 years in. Let me know how it looks in 41 years.
Jesus. You are really having trouble with this, eh?
Many people think the earth is flat too, doesn’t make them correct.
Paterno’s actions were the legal maximum, praised by the AG, copied by the NCAA guidelines.
We were talking about what Joe did. Joe checked with the guy who had complained. Did not have to do that, he had already done his legal duty. This gives the lie to the loony notion that Joe did nothing more than rhe absolute minimum.No trouble. I just don't believe asking MM if he is satisfied constitutes a meaningful action.
Especially since MM's satisfaction had nothing to do with stopping Sandusky.
We were talking about what Joe did. Joe checked with the guy who had complained. Did not have to do that, he had already done his legal duty. This gives the lie to the loony notion that Joe did nothing more than rhe absolute minimum.
The sad part is that it was necessary to explain it to you.
We were talking about what Joe did. Joe checked with the guy who had complained. Did not have to do that, he had already done his legal duty. This gives the lie to the loony notion that Joe did nothing more than rhe absolute minimum.
The sad part is that it was necessary to explain it to you.
dem, you've heard the old adage about wrasslin' wif pigs? Asssprey and michshit is pigs.
The sad part is that you and others think that means anything.
Attaboy, asshole.
Genuine questions for you.Art you crybaby. Are you a six year old child trapped in an 85 year old body?
What’s even sadder is that both are people who allegedly attended PSU.dem, you've heard the old adage about wrasslin' wif pigs? Asssprey and michshit is pigs.
Walter / michnittlion,Art you crybaby. Are you a six year old child trapped in an 85 year old body?
Legal maximum? Is that a sick joke? If he contacted the police would he have been arrested for
reporting a possible child molestation? Would he have been fired? No they tried that in 2004. What
crime would he have committed?
It was McQueary’s job to contact police if he thought it was warranted.