I’m going to be buying an EV in 2023 or 2024 and I’m curious if others here can offer any tips on evolving technologies, batteries, buying in 2023 vs 2024, things to consider, “watch out fors“, thoughts on “higher end” models?
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If you wait a little longer, Biden will be giving them away free to anyone who has a car payment…I’m going to be buying an EV in 2023 or 2024 and I’m curious if others here can offer any tips on evolving technologies, batteries, buying in 2023 vs 2024, things to consider, “watch out fors“, thoughts on “higher end” models?
No plans myself, did see an Australian Bank has plans for no new auto loans for gas or diesel cars. Wonder how I could have made the drive from FL to PHL in an EV. Guess you have to schedule fill ups and how long would that take?If you wait a little longer, Biden will be giving them away free to anyone who has a car payment…
There are superchargers along the way and several tools to track them. The newer EVs are publishing a 20-minute recharge time. So if you can go 300 miles and then recharge, a 20 minute break is not so bad.No plans myself, did see an Australian Bank has plans for no new auto loans for gas or diesel cars. Wonder how I could have made the drive from FL to PHL in an EV. Guess you have to schedule fill ups and how long would that take?
Was considering one but then heard that Coach James Franklin drives one so changed my mind!I’m going to be buying an EV in 2023 or 2024 and I’m curious if others here can offer any tips on evolving technologies, batteries, buying in 2023 vs 2024, things to consider, “watch out fors“, thoughts on “higher end” models?
Yep, the day after that passed Ford upped the cost $6000 - $8500 for an ev….Well they just offered $7k credits in this new bill passed but of course that means most EV makers have already raised their prices by $6k to $9k. Gotta love the government thinking they can pick winners and losers.
You better check the fine print on thatWell they just offered $7k credits in this new bill passed but of course that means most EV makers have already raised their prices by $6k to $9k. Gotta love the government thinking they can pick winners and losers.
No.I’m going to be buying an EV in 2023 or 2024 and I’m curious if others here can offer any tips on evolving technologies, batteries, buying in 2023 vs 2024, things to consider, “watch out fors“, thoughts on “higher end” models?
That tax credit doesn’t apply to imports does it?You better check the fine print on that
Yes it is. Very complicated. By my count, most models will not be eligible.its complicated
Which Vehicles Qualify for New $7,500 Electric Vehicle Tax Credit?
The Inflation Reduction Act only offers tax credits on electric vehicles assembled in North America.www.cpapracticeadvisor.com
You better check the fine print on that
Deb Stabenow, US Senator from MI said the bill was written by people who "do not understand the car industry or do but don't care". When I read what the requirements were, I thought the same thing. For example, you have income caps. We'll good luck buying a $60k car when you need a second car in case the grid is down a few days or you have to take a long trip. Good luck finding a used EV for less than $25,000. Good luck finding cars and batteries made in the USA.There are NO BEV's that will be eligible for the full 7000k credit in 2023 because the batteries will not comply with component sourcing requirements. All the BEV's assembled in the US will be eligible for half the credit.
This is what Manchin wanted.Deb Stabenow, US Senator from MI said the bill was written by people who "do not understand the car industry or do but don't care". When I read what the requirements were, I thought the same thing. For example, you have income caps. We'll good luck buying a $60k car when you need a second car in case the grid is down a few days or you have to take a long trip. Good luck finding a used EV for less than $25,000. Good luck finding cars and batteries made in the USA.
I think the bill will be modified, quietly.
Secondly, I think there are a lot of people buying EVs to get the tax credit, drive it for six months and sell it with 4,000 miles or so. You guy the car for $60k, you sell it for $58k, and you pocket a $7500 tax credit. its kind of crazy.
The problem with Biden’s EV subsidy: hardly any cars will qualify
Climate law links subsidy to domestic manufacturing goals that render some vehicles ineligiblewww.ft.com
Could be...not sure why though. But the real issue, that nobody seems to want to talk about, what happens when we get to 40% + EVs? Where is the new electrical demand going to come from? What initiatives are going to yield that kind of electrical power in five to ten years? And this is a local problem meaning, WTF is going to happen in California? They already have rolling blackouts.This is what Manchin wanted.
James Franklin has 2 EVs so you better reconsider your strategy because as you well know and propagate every decision he makes is the wrong one. Plus he is so helplessly incompetent that you could not possibly do anything remotely close to what he did.I’m going to be buying an EV in 2023 or 2024 and I’m curious if others here can offer any tips on evolving technologies, batteries, buying in 2023 vs 2024, things to consider, “watch out fors“, thoughts on “higher end” models?
They don’t know AND they don’t care. They saw a chance to ram something through that they can campaign on so they took it. That’s all that really matters.Deb Stabenow, US Senator from MI said the bill was written by people who "do not understand the car industry or do but don't care". When I read what the requirements were, I thought the same thing. For example, you have income caps. We'll good luck buying a $60k car when you need a second car in case the grid is down a few days or you have to take a long trip. Good luck finding a used EV for less than $25,000. Good luck finding cars and batteries made in the USA.
I think the bill will be modified, quietly.
Secondly, I think there are a lot of people buying EVs to get the tax credit, drive it for six months and sell it with 4,000 miles or so. You guy the car for $60k, you sell it for $58k, and you pocket a $7500 tax credit. its kind of crazy.
iThe problem with Biden’s EV subsidy: hardly any cars will qualify
Climate law links subsidy to domestic manufacturing goals that render some vehicles ineligiblewww.ft.com
The electrical demand issue is just overblown scare tactics, we now have 40% +/- available capacity every night when charging is typically done.Could be...not sure why though. But the real issue, that nobody seems to want to talk about, what happens when we get to 40% + EVs? Where is the new electrical demand going to come from? What initiatives are going to yield that kind of electrical power in five to ten years? And this is a local problem meaning, WTF is going to happen in California? They already have rolling blackouts.
LOL. Do you think the grid can just absorb the entire gas energy gap? Seriously?The electrical demand issue is just overblown scare tactics, we now have 40% +/- available capacity every night when charging is typically done.
LOL. Do you think the grid can just absorb the entire gas energy gap? Seriously?
Do you know both CA and TX have both had major issues in the last two years without 1% plus EVs?
No. Full stop. We do not have excess capacity in most places. Why? Our aging grid doesn't support it. In ten years, sure. But not now and not for the foreseeable future.The electrical demand issue is just overblown scare tactics, we now have 40% +/- available capacity every night when charging is typically done.
We have excess available capacity after midnight, you know when everyone is sleeping, the lights are out, the AC's running much less, and when businesses and schools are closed. You don't really need to change behaviors as most charging occurs at night anyway. Period. Full Stop.No. Full stop. We do not have excess capacity in most places. Why? Our aging grid doesn't support it. In ten years, sure. But not now and not for the foreseeable future.
You do not know what you are talking about. What you are saying applies to some very specific places, but not most.We have excess available capacity after midnight, you know when everyone is sleeping, the lights are out, the AC's running much less, and when businesses and schools are closed. You don't really need to change behaviors as most charging occurs at night anyway. Period. Full Stop.
Xeptin EVs need ten to twelve hours to charge. And after about 6PM a solar power shuts down yet air conditioners are still running, including businesses. And wind usually slows or stops in the evening so wind power drops dramatically. Thank God for nuclear, nat gas, coal, and hydro.We have excess available capacity after midnight, you know when everyone is sleeping, the lights are out, the AC's running much less, and when businesses and schools are closed. You don't really need to change behaviors as most charging occurs at night anyway. Period. Full Stop.
I have 2 EVs (2018 Tesla Model 3 and 2021 Tesla Model Y SUV) and haven’t bought gas (besides filling up a rental car on occasions) since 2020. Zero regrets. Tesla’s charging infrastructure and battery tech is still years ahead of the completion in my opinion.I’m going to be buying an EV in 2023 or 2024 and I’m curious if others here can offer any tips on evolving technologies, batteries, buying in 2023 vs 2024, things to consider, “watch out fors“, thoughts on “higher end” models?
Xeptin EVs need ten to twelve hours to charge. And after about 6PM a solar power shuts down yet air conditioners are still running, including businesses. And wind usually slows or stops in the evening so wind power drops dramatically. Thank God for nuclear, nat gas, coal, and hydro.
You do not know what you are talking about. What you are saying applies to some very specific places, but not most.
So people wait until midnight to plug them in? Or do they have timers to restrict charging times?Xeptin you'd be wrong, most people don't let their BEV's drain to zero before charging, so charging for 10-12 hours isn't the typical situation, in fact, most Teslas don't even take 10-12 hours for a full charge. Your typical BEV user will likely "top off" for a limited number of hours every night. Most Teslas take about one hour to go from 40% to 80% on a L2 charger. Keep dreaming up those skies are falling situations, I like your AC's are still running example, last I heard AC's don't run as much because the temps are 20 degrees cooler, or maybe a business, if they're smart, have higher set points at night.
Keep'em coming.
FFS.... The EV's give you the ability to set times to program a charging schedule.So people wait until midnight to plug them in? Or do they have timers to restrict charging times?
Temps don’t fall very quickly until late at night. Especially in concrete cities known as heat islands.
To each his own. What you fail to consider is the 10-20 times you spend 5-15 minutes filling up at your local gas station, for each time you need to fill up on a long trip. Unless you are doing monthly cross-country trips, EV charging is a net time savings.The only way I'd buy an EV is if the only other choice was walking or using a bicycle. Unless and until EVs can be fully recharged in 15 minutes, they are useless to take on a long trip. And they are expensive. And I expect electricity costs to rise as more people plug these things in and the grid is pushed to the limit and beyond. It is going to cost big bucks to beef up the grid enough to handle all these EVs - and everyone will be paying for it. The whole idea of EVs is just utter insanity.
Every chart for every area in every season shows demand doesn’t drop significantly until 9-10 PM. And I do trust people to set timers. Either needs a serious late night discount or timing must be set remotely by either the RV manufacturer or the utilities.FFS.... The EV's give you the ability to set times to program a charging schedule.
Here's a pretty graphic to show you everything you need to see how wrong you are, pay attention to the yellow lines for July.
Riiiight. CA just passed a law requiring all new EVs for new car purchases by 2035. That’sa little over 10 years. Plus, you’ll have the nicest paperweight in your garage when there is a three day power outagePlease, you're smarter than that. The nighttime capacity we have now will not handle 100% EV adoption, but I think we can make up the difference over the next 30 years or however long it takes to get there. By that time I think we'll have batteries that are much lighter, smaller, with 400+ miles of range that can be charged in 5 minutes. Stop being so short-sighted.
There isn't excess nighttime capacity available in TX or CA?? That's news to me.
Every chart for every area in every season shows demand doesn’t drop significantly until 9-10 PM. And I do trust people to set timers. Either needs a serious late night discount or timing must be set remotely by either the RV manufacturer or the utilities.