I have "Long Covid."

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At this point, it's clear I am experiencing Post Viral Syndrome (PVS) from my one Covid infection back in February 2020. PVS can result from any viral infection, but in typical fashion with Covid, it has been rebranded to give the impression it is scary and unique to Covid - And thus was borne "Long Covid."

My SARS-Cov-2 PVS seems to have manifested with two symptoms:
1. A persistent smell of cigarette smoke as my "default" (when no other scent present). This started about 6-8 months after my suspected Covid infection (Feb 2020). When there's a real scent, there's no hint of the cigarette smell, and so I still experience all normal scents. But when there is no other scent, I just continuously smell cigarette smoke. Interestingly, 1) for a few months after I received my Covid vaccine, this symptom was completely gone; and 2) it seems to be almost completely gone right now, and I'm just a few weeks past what I thought was a very mild cold, but could have been Covid -- So, it seems fresh antibodies suppress this symptom.
2. A ridiculously high (to me) level of intelligence. For the last two years, learning and understanding things has been easier than it ever has been in my life. Everything seems to just naturally and clearly make sense. After being completely out of my "day job" for a year and a half, last summer I re-entered the field. I'm a Salesforce Commerce Cloud - ecommerce platform - technical architect, and even though I was out for 18 months, I'm f*cking killing it at my job. Never in my life has this been so easy. Any time a client comes to me and starts to describe a problem, I immediately know what the problem is and how to fix it, seemingly without even thinking about it. My brain feels like a super-computer. I've always considered myself as about average or slightly above average intelligence - But I worked hard, so my accomplishments have been a bit above my "intelligence grade." But for the first time in my life, I actually feel relatively smart. Of course, maybe just everyone else is experiencing a "Long Covid" symptom of lost intelligence, and I happened to dodge that one - So I'm still at my same old mediocre level of intelligence, but everyone else got dumber. :)

We kinda joke about "Long Covid" (often rightly so) because the anxiety-riddled CNN/MSNBC watchers keep citing it as a reason for them to be afraid to leave their house, and as a reason to continue restrictions. Logically, both of those conclusions are stupid, but make not mistake, PVS is a real thing.

Basically, once the virus infects, it just keeps replicating until either 1) The host dies; or 2) The immune system of the host neutralizes and clears it from the host. Contrary to popular belief, the virus doesn't "target" any particular part of the body. It just replicates, and goes wherever the body takes it. And some of the body's organs and functions are more susceptible to viral infections (or certain types of viral infections) than other (i.e. lungs). Also, some of the body's organs and functions are better at recovering than others.

So, for this reason, PVS can manifest itself via many different symptoms, and the whole scale of severity.

In the vast majority of cases - but not all - when we experience a viral infection (i.e. flu, cold, etc.), because our immune systems are prepared, the virus doesn't make it deep enough into the body's organs and functions to result in anything other than very minor - if any - PVS symptoms. Generally, PVS is so mild and/or infrequent, most people never even knew it was a thing.

SARS-Cov-2, with an assist from our click-bait media, changed that a bit. We saw reports of "Long Covid" like we've never seen with other standard respiratory viruses. Well, yeah - This is to be expected. Not because there is anything inherently more dangerous about SARS-Cov-2 from a PVS perspective, but rather, simply because it was novel to our immune systems. Novel viruses take longer to clear (as we have covered in previous posts), and so with an infection from a novel virus, it gets to replicate deeper into our body's organs and systems than does non-novel viruses. So, whatever havoc a viral infection might cause on different parts of the body, it's likely going to be worse when the infection is from a novel virus. The good news is, for the vast majority of us (if not literally all of us), since SARS-Cov-2 is no longer novel to our immune systems, from here on out, we can expect incidents and severity of "Long Covid" to approach that of PVS from other standard respiratory viruses that have been circulating among us our whole lives.

The other piece of good news is that if your Covid infection results in Long Covid, perhaps you too will become ridiculously intelligent like me!
 

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At this point, it's clear I am experiencing Post Viral Syndrome (PVS) from my one Covid infection back in February 2020. PVS can result from any viral infection, but in typical fashion with Covid, it has been rebranded to give the impression it is scary and unique to Covid - And thus was borne "Long Covid."

My SARS-Cov-2 PVS seems to have manifested with two symptoms:
1. A persistent smell of cigarette smoke as my "default" (when no other scent present). This started about 6-8 months after my suspected Covid infection (Feb 2020). When there's a real scent, there's no hint of the cigarette smell, and so I still experience all normal scents. But when there is no other scent, I just continuously smell cigarette smoke. Interestingly, 1) for a few months after I received my Covid vaccine, this symptom was completely gone; and 2) it seems to be almost completely gone right now, and I'm just a few weeks past what I thought was a very mild cold, but could have been Covid -- So, it seems fresh antibodies suppress this symptom.
2. A ridiculously high (to me) level of intelligence. For the last two years, learning and understanding things has been easier than it ever has been in my life. Everything seems to just naturally and clearly make sense. After being completely out of my "day job" for a year and a half, last summer I re-entered the field. I'm a Salesforce Commerce Cloud - ecommerce platform - technical architect, and even though I was out for 18 months, I'm f*cking killing it at my job. Never in my life has this been so easy. Any time a client comes to me and starts to describe a problem, I immediately know what the problem is and how to fix it, seemingly without even thinking about it. My brain feels like a super-computer. I've always considered myself as about average or slightly above average intelligence - But I worked hard, so my accomplishments have been a bit above my "intelligence grade." But for the first time in my life, I actually feel relatively smart. Of course, maybe just everyone else is experiencing a "Long Covid" symptom of lost intelligence, and I happened to dodge that one - So I'm still at my same old mediocre level of intelligence, but everyone else got dumber. :)

We kinda joke about "Long Covid" (often rightly so) because the anxiety-riddled CNN/MSNBC watchers keep citing it as a reason for them to be afraid to leave their house, and as a reason to continue restrictions. Logically, both of those conclusions are stupid, but make not mistake, PVS is a real thing.

Basically, once the virus infects, it just keeps replicating until either 1) The host dies; or 2) The immune system of the host neutralizes and clears it from the host. Contrary to popular belief, the virus doesn't "target" any particular part of the body. It just replicates, and goes wherever the body takes it. And some of the body's organs and functions are more susceptible to viral infections (or certain types of viral infections) than other (i.e. lungs). Also, some of the body's organs and functions are better at recovering than others.

So, for this reason, PVS can manifest itself via many different symptoms, and the whole scale of severity.

In the vast majority of cases - but not all - when we experience a viral infection (i.e. flu, cold, etc.), because our immune systems are prepared, the virus doesn't make it deep enough into the body's organs and functions to result in anything other than very minor - if any - PVS symptoms. Generally, PVS is so mild and/or infrequent, most people never even knew it was a thing.

SARS-Cov-2, with an assist from our click-bait media, changed that a bit. We saw reports of "Long Covid" like we've never seen with other standard respiratory viruses. Well, yeah - This is to be expected. Not because there is anything inherently more dangerous about SARS-Cov-2 from a PVS perspective, but rather, simply because it was novel to our immune systems. Novel viruses take longer to clear (as we have covered in previous posts), and so with an infection from a novel virus, it gets to replicate deeper into our body's organs and systems than does non-novel viruses. So, whatever havoc a viral infection might cause on different parts of the body, it's likely going to be worse when the infection is from a novel virus. The good news is, for the vast majority of us (if not literally all of us), since SARS-Cov-2 is no longer novel to our immune systems, from here on out, we can expect incidents and severity of "Long Covid" to approach that of PVS from other standard respiratory viruses that have been circulating among us our whole lives.

The other piece of good news is that if your Covid infection results in Long Covid, perhaps you too will become ridiculously intelligent like me!
No. You sure are dumb.

I'm smart and I listen to the scientists, unlike you.

Do you have a degree in "covid science"? No. Because even if you have a degree in engineering or mathematics, I only accept the degrees and government training for "covid reaction thinking" as valid opinions.

See. I'm a liberal vajajay and I'm way smarter than you.

You should try to "follow the science", then you can be smart like me and believe every single thing that Fauci/CDC tells you.

Long Covid is real (Walensky told me so), and if we don't do exactly what she says, we're all going to die.

Plus, I wear a mask. So, I'm doubly smart.
 

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Is "long COVID" only attributable to the COVID flu or is this condition associated with all kinds of flu?
 
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I know the post was a tl;dr, but I did cover that in there. :)
Thanks. Sorry, I now see it after I reread your post. I guess I was overwhelmed with this visualization of you going spider bite>spider man and you being COVID>NOVEL-Man

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At this point, it's clear I am experiencing Post Viral Syndrome (PVS) from my one Covid infection back in February 2020. PVS can result from any viral infection, but in typical fashion with Covid, it has been rebranded to give the impression it is scary and unique to Covid - And thus was borne "Long Covid."

My SARS-Cov-2 PVS seems to have manifested with two symptoms:
1. A persistent smell of cigarette smoke as my "default" (when no other scent present). This started about 6-8 months after my suspected Covid infection (Feb 2020). When there's a real scent, there's no hint of the cigarette smell, and so I still experience all normal scents. But when there is no other scent, I just continuously smell cigarette smoke. Interestingly, 1) for a few months after I received my Covid vaccine, this symptom was completely gone; and 2) it seems to be almost completely gone right now, and I'm just a few weeks past what I thought was a very mild cold, but could have been Covid -- So, it seems fresh antibodies suppress this symptom.
2. A ridiculously high (to me) level of intelligence. For the last two years, learning and understanding things has been easier than it ever has been in my life. Everything seems to just naturally and clearly make sense. After being completely out of my "day job" for a year and a half, last summer I re-entered the field. I'm a Salesforce Commerce Cloud - ecommerce platform - technical architect, and even though I was out for 18 months, I'm f*cking killing it at my job. Never in my life has this been so easy. Any time a client comes to me and starts to describe a problem, I immediately know what the problem is and how to fix it, seemingly without even thinking about it. My brain feels like a super-computer. I've always considered myself as about average or slightly above average intelligence - But I worked hard, so my accomplishments have been a bit above my "intelligence grade." But for the first time in my life, I actually feel relatively smart. Of course, maybe just everyone else is experiencing a "Long Covid" symptom of lost intelligence, and I happened to dodge that one - So I'm still at my same old mediocre level of intelligence, but everyone else got dumber. :)

We kinda joke about "Long Covid" (often rightly so) because the anxiety-riddled CNN/MSNBC watchers keep citing it as a reason for them to be afraid to leave their house, and as a reason to continue restrictions. Logically, both of those conclusions are stupid, but make not mistake, PVS is a real thing.

Basically, once the virus infects, it just keeps replicating until either 1) The host dies; or 2) The immune system of the host neutralizes and clears it from the host. Contrary to popular belief, the virus doesn't "target" any particular part of the body. It just replicates, and goes wherever the body takes it. And some of the body's organs and functions are more susceptible to viral infections (or certain types of viral infections) than other (i.e. lungs). Also, some of the body's organs and functions are better at recovering than others.

So, for this reason, PVS can manifest itself via many different symptoms, and the whole scale of severity.

In the vast majority of cases - but not all - when we experience a viral infection (i.e. flu, cold, etc.), because our immune systems are prepared, the virus doesn't make it deep enough into the body's organs and functions to result in anything other than very minor - if any - PVS symptoms. Generally, PVS is so mild and/or infrequent, most people never even knew it was a thing.

SARS-Cov-2, with an assist from our click-bait media, changed that a bit. We saw reports of "Long Covid" like we've never seen with other standard respiratory viruses. Well, yeah - This is to be expected. Not because there is anything inherently more dangerous about SARS-Cov-2 from a PVS perspective, but rather, simply because it was novel to our immune systems. Novel viruses take longer to clear (as we have covered in previous posts), and so with an infection from a novel virus, it gets to replicate deeper into our body's organs and systems than does non-novel viruses. So, whatever havoc a viral infection might cause on different parts of the body, it's likely going to be worse when the infection is from a novel virus. The good news is, for the vast majority of us (if not literally all of us), since SARS-Cov-2 is no longer novel to our immune systems, from here on out, we can expect incidents and severity of "Long Covid" to approach that of PVS from other standard respiratory viruses that have been circulating among us our whole lives.

The other piece of good news is that if your Covid infection results in Long Covid, perhaps you too will become ridiculously intelligent like me!
holy hell I hope your ability to flip houses and build speaker cabinets greatly exceeds your understanding of virology and immunology. Wow. I attached to links that might help you better understand and they are intended for smart lay people., Not specialists. This first deals with the concept of viral tropism

The capability of a virus to infect a distinct group of cells in the host is referred to astropism. For many viruses, tropism is determined by the availability of virus receptors on the surface of a host cell.


And the second deals directly with Sars-Covi-2 tropism and tissue distribution. This explains how it actually gets into organs........

This difference in ACE2 expression level in the respiratory tract is mirrored by the SARS-CoV-2 infection gradient, with nasal ciliated cells being primary targets for SARS-CoV-2 replication in the early stage of infection71,75. Despite the respiratory route being dominant in SARS-CoV-2 infection, the highest levels of ACE2 expression are found in the small intestine, testis, kidney, heart muscle, colon and thyroid gland73,77. Cardiac infection by SARS-CoV-2 was frequently found in autopsy cases78, and the presence of ACE2 in colon and kidney cells has been suggested as an explanation for gastrointestinal and renal complications of SARS-CoV-2 infection. ACE2 expression in the gastrointestinal tract is consistent with the observation that many coronaviruses,

 

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At this point, it's clear I am experiencing Post Viral Syndrome (PVS) from my one Covid infection back in February 2020. PVS can result from any viral infection, but in typical fashion with Covid, it has been rebranded to give the impression it is scary and unique to Covid - And thus was borne "Long Covid."

My SARS-Cov-2 PVS seems to have manifested with two symptoms:
1. A persistent smell of cigarette smoke as my "default" (when no other scent present). This started about 6-8 months after my suspected Covid infection (Feb 2020). When there's a real scent, there's no hint of the cigarette smell, and so I still experience all normal scents. But when there is no other scent, I just continuously smell cigarette smoke. Interestingly, 1) for a few months after I received my Covid vaccine, this symptom was completely gone; and 2) it seems to be almost completely gone right now, and I'm just a few weeks past what I thought was a very mild cold, but could have been Covid -- So, it seems fresh antibodies suppress this symptom.
2. A ridiculously high (to me) level of intelligence. For the last two years, learning and understanding things has been easier than it ever has been in my life. Everything seems to just naturally and clearly make sense. After being completely out of my "day job" for a year and a half, last summer I re-entered the field. I'm a Salesforce Commerce Cloud - ecommerce platform - technical architect, and even though I was out for 18 months, I'm f*cking killing it at my job. Never in my life has this been so easy. Any time a client comes to me and starts to describe a problem, I immediately know what the problem is and how to fix it, seemingly without even thinking about it. My brain feels like a super-computer. I've always considered myself as about average or slightly above average intelligence - But I worked hard, so my accomplishments have been a bit above my "intelligence grade." But for the first time in my life, I actually feel relatively smart. Of course, maybe just everyone else is experiencing a "Long Covid" symptom of lost intelligence, and I happened to dodge that one - So I'm still at my same old mediocre level of intelligence, but everyone else got dumber. :)

We kinda joke about "Long Covid" (often rightly so) because the anxiety-riddled CNN/MSNBC watchers keep citing it as a reason for them to be afraid to leave their house, and as a reason to continue restrictions. Logically, both of those conclusions are stupid, but make not mistake, PVS is a real thing.

Basically, once the virus infects, it just keeps replicating until either 1) The host dies; or 2) The immune system of the host neutralizes and clears it from the host. Contrary to popular belief, the virus doesn't "target" any particular part of the body. It just replicates, and goes wherever the body takes it. And some of the body's organs and functions are more susceptible to viral infections (or certain types of viral infections) than other (i.e. lungs). Also, some of the body's organs and functions are better at recovering than others.

So, for this reason, PVS can manifest itself via many different symptoms, and the whole scale of severity.

In the vast majority of cases - but not all - when we experience a viral infection (i.e. flu, cold, etc.), because our immune systems are prepared, the virus doesn't make it deep enough into the body's organs and functions to result in anything other than very minor - if any - PVS symptoms. Generally, PVS is so mild and/or infrequent, most people never even knew it was a thing.

SARS-Cov-2, with an assist from our click-bait media, changed that a bit. We saw reports of "Long Covid" like we've never seen with other standard respiratory viruses. Well, yeah - This is to be expected. Not because there is anything inherently more dangerous about SARS-Cov-2 from a PVS perspective, but rather, simply because it was novel to our immune systems. Novel viruses take longer to clear (as we have covered in previous posts), and so with an infection from a novel virus, it gets to replicate deeper into our body's organs and systems than does non-novel viruses. So, whatever havoc a viral infection might cause on different parts of the body, it's likely going to be worse when the infection is from a novel virus. The good news is, for the vast majority of us (if not literally all of us), since SARS-Cov-2 is no longer novel to our immune systems, from here on out, we can expect incidents and severity of "Long Covid" to approach that of PVS from other standard respiratory viruses that have been circulating among us our whole lives.

The other piece of good news is that if your Covid infection results in Long Covid, perhaps you too will become ridiculously intelligent like me!
This is all bullshit.....none of this information was peer reviewed.
 

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holy hell I hope your ability to flip houses and build speaker cabinets greatly exceeds your understanding of virology and immunology. Wow. I attached to links that might help you better understand and they are intended for smart lay people., Not specialists. This first deals with the concept of viral tropism

The capability of a virus to infect a distinct group of cells in the host is referred to astropism. For many viruses, tropism is determined by the availability of virus receptors on the surface of a host cell.


And the second deals directly with Sars-Covi-2 tropism and tissue distribution. This explains how it actually gets into organs........

This difference in ACE2 expression level in the respiratory tract is mirrored by the SARS-CoV-2 infection gradient, with nasal ciliated cells being primary targets for SARS-CoV-2 replication in the early stage of infection71,75. Despite the respiratory route being dominant in SARS-CoV-2 infection, the highest levels of ACE2 expression are found in the small intestine, testis, kidney, heart muscle, colon and thyroid gland73,77. Cardiac infection by SARS-CoV-2 was frequently found in autopsy cases78, and the presence of ACE2 in colon and kidney cells has been suggested as an explanation for gastrointestinal and renal complications of SARS-CoV-2 infection. ACE2 expression in the gastrointestinal tract is consistent with the observation that many coronaviruses,


Yep.

And by the tone of your post, seems you think this stuff contradicts something in my post. Perhaps I need to clarify something in my OP - What part of it do you think is in conflict with what you posted here?
 
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At this point, it's clear I am experiencing Post Viral Syndrome (PVS) from my one Covid infection back in February 2020. PVS can result from any viral infection, but in typical fashion with Covid, it has been rebranded to give the impression it is scary and unique to Covid - And thus was borne "Long Covid."

My SARS-Cov-2 PVS seems to have manifested with two symptoms:
1. A persistent smell of cigarette smoke as my "default" (when no other scent present). This started about 6-8 months after my suspected Covid infection (Feb 2020). When there's a real scent, there's no hint of the cigarette smell, and so I still experience all normal scents. But when there is no other scent, I just continuously smell cigarette smoke. Interestingly, 1) for a few months after I received my Covid vaccine, this symptom was completely gone; and 2) it seems to be almost completely gone right now, and I'm just a few weeks past what I thought was a very mild cold, but could have been Covid -- So, it seems fresh antibodies suppress this symptom.
2. A ridiculously high (to me) level of intelligence. For the last two years, learning and understanding things has been easier than it ever has been in my life. Everything seems to just naturally and clearly make sense. After being completely out of my "day job" for a year and a half, last summer I re-entered the field. I'm a Salesforce Commerce Cloud - ecommerce platform - technical architect, and even though I was out for 18 months, I'm f*cking killing it at my job. Never in my life has this been so easy. Any time a client comes to me and starts to describe a problem, I immediately know what the problem is and how to fix it, seemingly without even thinking about it. My brain feels like a super-computer. I've always considered myself as about average or slightly above average intelligence - But I worked hard, so my accomplishments have been a bit above my "intelligence grade." But for the first time in my life, I actually feel relatively smart. Of course, maybe just everyone else is experiencing a "Long Covid" symptom of lost intelligence, and I happened to dodge that one - So I'm still at my same old mediocre level of intelligence, but everyone else got dumber. :)

We kinda joke about "Long Covid" (often rightly so) because the anxiety-riddled CNN/MSNBC watchers keep citing it as a reason for them to be afraid to leave their house, and as a reason to continue restrictions. Logically, both of those conclusions are stupid, but make not mistake, PVS is a real thing.

Basically, once the virus infects, it just keeps replicating until either 1) The host dies; or 2) The immune system of the host neutralizes and clears it from the host. Contrary to popular belief, the virus doesn't "target" any particular part of the body. It just replicates, and goes wherever the body takes it. And some of the body's organs and functions are more susceptible to viral infections (or certain types of viral infections) than other (i.e. lungs). Also, some of the body's organs and functions are better at recovering than others.

So, for this reason, PVS can manifest itself via many different symptoms, and the whole scale of severity.

In the vast majority of cases - but not all - when we experience a viral infection (i.e. flu, cold, etc.), because our immune systems are prepared, the virus doesn't make it deep enough into the body's organs and functions to result in anything other than very minor - if any - PVS symptoms. Generally, PVS is so mild and/or infrequent, most people never even knew it was a thing.

SARS-Cov-2, with an assist from our click-bait media, changed that a bit. We saw reports of "Long Covid" like we've never seen with other standard respiratory viruses. Well, yeah - This is to be expected. Not because there is anything inherently more dangerous about SARS-Cov-2 from a PVS perspective, but rather, simply because it was novel to our immune systems. Novel viruses take longer to clear (as we have covered in previous posts), and so with an infection from a novel virus, it gets to replicate deeper into our body's organs and systems than does non-novel viruses. So, whatever havoc a viral infection might cause on different parts of the body, it's likely going to be worse when the infection is from a novel virus. The good news is, for the vast majority of us (if not literally all of us), since SARS-Cov-2 is no longer novel to our immune systems, from here on out, we can expect incidents and severity of "Long Covid" to approach that of PVS from other standard respiratory viruses that have been circulating among us our whole lives.

The other piece of good news is that if your Covid infection results in Long Covid, perhaps you too will become ridiculously intelligent like me!

The big questions here clearly are:

Do you wear crocs to your office?

Did Fabian make the move with you?
 
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At this point, it's clear I am experiencing Post Viral Syndrome (PVS) from my one Covid infection back in February 2020. PVS can result from any viral infection, but in typical fashion with Covid, it has been rebranded to give the impression it is scary and unique to Covid - And thus was borne "Long Covid."

My SARS-Cov-2 PVS seems to have manifested with two symptoms:
1. A persistent smell of cigarette smoke as my "default" (when no other scent present). This started about 6-8 months after my suspected Covid infection (Feb 2020). When there's a real scent, there's no hint of the cigarette smell, and so I still experience all normal scents. But when there is no other scent, I just continuously smell cigarette smoke. Interestingly, 1) for a few months after I received my Covid vaccine, this symptom was completely gone; and 2) it seems to be almost completely gone right now, and I'm just a few weeks past what I thought was a very mild cold, but could have been Covid -- So, it seems fresh antibodies suppress this symptom.
2. A ridiculously high (to me) level of intelligence. For the last two years, learning and understanding things has been easier than it ever has been in my life. Everything seems to just naturally and clearly make sense. After being completely out of my "day job" for a year and a half, last summer I re-entered the field. I'm a Salesforce Commerce Cloud - ecommerce platform - technical architect, and even though I was out for 18 months, I'm f*cking killing it at my job. Never in my life has this been so easy. Any time a client comes to me and starts to describe a problem, I immediately know what the problem is and how to fix it, seemingly without even thinking about it. My brain feels like a super-computer. I've always considered myself as about average or slightly above average intelligence - But I worked hard, so my accomplishments have been a bit above my "intelligence grade." But for the first time in my life, I actually feel relatively smart. Of course, maybe just everyone else is experiencing a "Long Covid" symptom of lost intelligence, and I happened to dodge that one - So I'm still at my same old mediocre level of intelligence, but everyone else got dumber. :)

We kinda joke about "Long Covid" (often rightly so) because the anxiety-riddled CNN/MSNBC watchers keep citing it as a reason for them to be afraid to leave their house, and as a reason to continue restrictions. Logically, both of those conclusions are stupid, but make not mistake, PVS is a real thing.

Basically, once the virus infects, it just keeps replicating until either 1) The host dies; or 2) The immune system of the host neutralizes and clears it from the host. Contrary to popular belief, the virus doesn't "target" any particular part of the body. It just replicates, and goes wherever the body takes it. And some of the body's organs and functions are more susceptible to viral infections (or certain types of viral infections) than other (i.e. lungs). Also, some of the body's organs and functions are better at recovering than others.

So, for this reason, PVS can manifest itself via many different symptoms, and the whole scale of severity.

In the vast majority of cases - but not all - when we experience a viral infection (i.e. flu, cold, etc.), because our immune systems are prepared, the virus doesn't make it deep enough into the body's organs and functions to result in anything other than very minor - if any - PVS symptoms. Generally, PVS is so mild and/or infrequent, most people never even knew it was a thing.

SARS-Cov-2, with an assist from our click-bait media, changed that a bit. We saw reports of "Long Covid" like we've never seen with other standard respiratory viruses. Well, yeah - This is to be expected. Not because there is anything inherently more dangerous about SARS-Cov-2 from a PVS perspective, but rather, simply because it was novel to our immune systems. Novel viruses take longer to clear (as we have covered in previous posts), and so with an infection from a novel virus, it gets to replicate deeper into our body's organs and systems than does non-novel viruses. So, whatever havoc a viral infection might cause on different parts of the body, it's likely going to be worse when the infection is from a novel virus. The good news is, for the vast majority of us (if not literally all of us), since SARS-Cov-2 is no longer novel to our immune systems, from here on out, we can expect incidents and severity of "Long Covid" to approach that of PVS from other standard respiratory viruses that have been circulating among us our whole lives.

The other piece of good news is that if your Covid infection results in Long Covid, perhaps you too will become ridiculously intelligent like me!
My working hypothesis is as follows:

1. Since one of your senses is compromised, your others have become more sensitive. You're probably focussing better on at-hand tasks.

2. You're not getting smarter; rather 99% of the population is getting dumber and lazier. I see it every time I venture out into public especially while shopping. People are so self-absorbed, it's like they're living in their own universe. They drive like they're on drugs, they block aisles with their grocery carts, the retail clerks don't really want to be working, service contractors working on neighbors houses are doing shitty work, etc....
 
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Yep.

And by the tone of your post, seems you think this stuff contradicts something in my post. Perhaps I need to clarify something in my OP - What part of it do you think is in conflict with what you posted here?
Contrary to popular belief, the virus doesn't "target" any particular part of the body.

Novel viruses take longer to clear (as we have covered in previous posts), and so with an infection from a novel virus, it gets to replicate deeper into our body's organs and systems than does non-novel viruses.

In the vast majority of cases - but not all - when we experience a viral infection (i.e. flu, cold, etc.), because our immune systems are prepared, the virus doesn't make it deep enough into the body's organs and functions to result in anything other than very minor -
 

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Contrary to popular belief, the virus doesn't "target" any particular part of the body.

Novel viruses take longer to clear (as we have covered in previous posts), and so with an infection from a novel virus, it gets to replicate deeper into our body's organs and systems than does non-novel viruses.

In the vast majority of cases - but not all - when we experience a viral infection (i.e. flu, cold, etc.), because our immune systems are prepared, the virus doesn't make it deep enough into the body's organs and functions to result in anything other than very minor -
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What is the contradiction you think you see there?
 

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At this point, it's clear I am experiencing Post Viral Syndrome (PVS) from my one Covid infection back in February 2020. PVS can result from any viral infection, but in typical fashion with Covid, it has been rebranded to give the impression it is scary and unique to Covid - And thus was borne "Long Covid."

My SARS-Cov-2 PVS seems to have manifested with two symptoms:
1. A persistent smell of cigarette smoke as my "default" (when no other scent present). This started about 6-8 months after my suspected Covid infection (Feb 2020). When there's a real scent, there's no hint of the cigarette smell, and so I still experience all normal scents. But when there is no other scent, I just continuously smell cigarette smoke. Interestingly, 1) for a few months after I received my Covid vaccine, this symptom was completely gone; and 2) it seems to be almost completely gone right now, and I'm just a few weeks past what I thought was a very mild cold, but could have been Covid -- So, it seems fresh antibodies suppress this symptom.
2. A ridiculously high (to me) level of intelligence. For the last two years, learning and understanding things has been easier than it ever has been in my life. Everything seems to just naturally and clearly make sense. After being completely out of my "day job" for a year and a half, last summer I re-entered the field. I'm a Salesforce Commerce Cloud - ecommerce platform - technical architect, and even though I was out for 18 months, I'm f*cking killing it at my job. Never in my life has this been so easy. Any time a client comes to me and starts to describe a problem, I immediately know what the problem is and how to fix it, seemingly without even thinking about it. My brain feels like a super-computer. I've always considered myself as about average or slightly above average intelligence - But I worked hard, so my accomplishments have been a bit above my "intelligence grade." But for the first time in my life, I actually feel relatively smart. Of course, maybe just everyone else is experiencing a "Long Covid" symptom of lost intelligence, and I happened to dodge that one - So I'm still at my same old mediocre level of intelligence, but everyone else got dumber. :)

We kinda joke about "Long Covid" (often rightly so) because the anxiety-riddled CNN/MSNBC watchers keep citing it as a reason for them to be afraid to leave their house, and as a reason to continue restrictions. Logically, both of those conclusions are stupid, but make not mistake, PVS is a real thing.

Basically, once the virus infects, it just keeps replicating until either 1) The host dies; or 2) The immune system of the host neutralizes and clears it from the host. Contrary to popular belief, the virus doesn't "target" any particular part of the body. It just replicates, and goes wherever the body takes it. And some of the body's organs and functions are more susceptible to viral infections (or certain types of viral infections) than other (i.e. lungs). Also, some of the body's organs and functions are better at recovering than others.

So, for this reason, PVS can manifest itself via many different symptoms, and the whole scale of severity.

In the vast majority of cases - but not all - when we experience a viral infection (i.e. flu, cold, etc.), because our immune systems are prepared, the virus doesn't make it deep enough into the body's organs and functions to result in anything other than very minor - if any - PVS symptoms. Generally, PVS is so mild and/or infrequent, most people never even knew it was a thing.

SARS-Cov-2, with an assist from our click-bait media, changed that a bit. We saw reports of "Long Covid" like we've never seen with other standard respiratory viruses. Well, yeah - This is to be expected. Not because there is anything inherently more dangerous about SARS-Cov-2 from a PVS perspective, but rather, simply because it was novel to our immune systems. Novel viruses take longer to clear (as we have covered in previous posts), and so with an infection from a novel virus, it gets to replicate deeper into our body's organs and systems than does non-novel viruses. So, whatever havoc a viral infection might cause on different parts of the body, it's likely going to be worse when the infection is from a novel virus. The good news is, for the vast majority of us (if not literally all of us), since SARS-Cov-2 is no longer novel to our immune systems, from here on out, we can expect incidents and severity of "Long Covid" to approach that of PVS from other standard respiratory viruses that have been circulating among us our whole lives.

The other piece of good news is that if your Covid infection results in Long Covid, perhaps you too will become ridiculously intelligent like me!
So, you read WeR's posts and think, 'I want to emulate that.'
 
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I'm still waiting to catch "short" covid. Still not vaxed and I can't catch this shit for the life of me. I guess that's what being proactive gets me.
That's your problem...you seem to want to catch the virus so it obviously is avoiding you. If you got vaccinated, wore A mask, stayed indoors and away from everybody else you would have caught the virus and would, most likely, be dead by now. TIC
 

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At this point, it's clear I am experiencing Post Viral Syndrome (PVS) from my one Covid infection back in February 2020. PVS can result from any viral infection, but in typical fashion with Covid, it has been rebranded to give the impression it is scary and unique to Covid - And thus was borne "Long Covid."

My SARS-Cov-2 PVS seems to have manifested with two symptoms:
1. A persistent smell of cigarette smoke as my "default" (when no other scent present). This started about 6-8 months after my suspected Covid infection (Feb 2020). When there's a real scent, there's no hint of the cigarette smell, and so I still experience all normal scents. But when there is no other scent, I just continuously smell cigarette smoke. Interestingly, 1) for a few months after I received my Covid vaccine, this symptom was completely gone; and 2) it seems to be almost completely gone right now, and I'm just a few weeks past what I thought was a very mild cold, but could have been Covid -- So, it seems fresh antibodies suppress this symptom.
2. A ridiculously high (to me) level of intelligence. For the last two years, learning and understanding things has been easier than it ever has been in my life. Everything seems to just naturally and clearly make sense. After being completely out of my "day job" for a year and a half, last summer I re-entered the field. I'm a Salesforce Commerce Cloud - ecommerce platform - technical architect, and even though I was out for 18 months, I'm f*cking killing it at my job. Never in my life has this been so easy. Any time a client comes to me and starts to describe a problem, I immediately know what the problem is and how to fix it, seemingly without even thinking about it. My brain feels like a super-computer. I've always considered myself as about average or slightly above average intelligence - But I worked hard, so my accomplishments have been a bit above my "intelligence grade." But for the first time in my life, I actually feel relatively smart. Of course, maybe just everyone else is experiencing a "Long Covid" symptom of lost intelligence, and I happened to dodge that one - So I'm still at my same old mediocre level of intelligence, but everyone else got dumber. :)

We kinda joke about "Long Covid" (often rightly so) because the anxiety-riddled CNN/MSNBC watchers keep citing it as a reason for them to be afraid to leave their house, and as a reason to continue restrictions. Logically, both of those conclusions are stupid, but make not mistake, PVS is a real thing.

Basically, once the virus infects, it just keeps replicating until either 1) The host dies; or 2) The immune system of the host neutralizes and clears it from the host. Contrary to popular belief, the virus doesn't "target" any particular part of the body. It just replicates, and goes wherever the body takes it. And some of the body's organs and functions are more susceptible to viral infections (or certain types of viral infections) than other (i.e. lungs). Also, some of the body's organs and functions are better at recovering than others.

So, for this reason, PVS can manifest itself via many different symptoms, and the whole scale of severity.

In the vast majority of cases - but not all - when we experience a viral infection (i.e. flu, cold, etc.), because our immune systems are prepared, the virus doesn't make it deep enough into the body's organs and functions to result in anything other than very minor - if any - PVS symptoms. Generally, PVS is so mild and/or infrequent, most people never even knew it was a thing.

SARS-Cov-2, with an assist from our click-bait media, changed that a bit. We saw reports of "Long Covid" like we've never seen with other standard respiratory viruses. Well, yeah - This is to be expected. Not because there is anything inherently more dangerous about SARS-Cov-2 from a PVS perspective, but rather, simply because it was novel to our immune systems. Novel viruses take longer to clear (as we have covered in previous posts), and so with an infection from a novel virus, it gets to replicate deeper into our body's organs and systems than does non-novel viruses. So, whatever havoc a viral infection might cause on different parts of the body, it's likely going to be worse when the infection is from a novel virus. The good news is, for the vast majority of us (if not literally all of us), since SARS-Cov-2 is no longer novel to our immune systems, from here on out, we can expect incidents and severity of "Long Covid" to approach that of PVS from other standard respiratory viruses that have been circulating among us our whole lives.

The other piece of good news is that if your Covid infection results in Long Covid, perhaps you too will become ridiculously intelligent like me!

Reminds me of a I believe Johnny Travolta movie where he got brain cancer, got really smart, then died. I hope that doesn't happen to you.
 
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At this point, it's clear I am experiencing Post Viral Syndrome (PVS) from my one Covid infection back in February 2020. PVS can result from any viral infection, but in typical fashion with Covid, it has been rebranded to give the impression it is scary and unique to Covid - And thus was borne "Long Covid."

My SARS-Cov-2 PVS seems to have manifested with two symptoms:
1. A persistent smell of cigarette smoke as my "default" (when no other scent present). This started about 6-8 months after my suspected Covid infection (Feb 2020). When there's a real scent, there's no hint of the cigarette smell, and so I still experience all normal scents. But when there is no other scent, I just continuously smell cigarette smoke. Interestingly, 1) for a few months after I received my Covid vaccine, this symptom was completely gone; and 2) it seems to be almost completely gone right now, and I'm just a few weeks past what I thought was a very mild cold, but could have been Covid -- So, it seems fresh antibodies suppress this symptom.
2. A ridiculously high (to me) level of intelligence. For the last two years, learning and understanding things has been easier than it ever has been in my life. Everything seems to just naturally and clearly make sense. After being completely out of my "day job" for a year and a half, last summer I re-entered the field. I'm a Salesforce Commerce Cloud - ecommerce platform - technical architect, and even though I was out for 18 months, I'm f*cking killing it at my job. Never in my life has this been so easy. Any time a client comes to me and starts to describe a problem, I immediately know what the problem is and how to fix it, seemingly without even thinking about it. My brain feels like a super-computer. I've always considered myself as about average or slightly above average intelligence - But I worked hard, so my accomplishments have been a bit above my "intelligence grade." But for the first time in my life, I actually feel relatively smart. Of course, maybe just everyone else is experiencing a "Long Covid" symptom of lost intelligence, and I happened to dodge that one - So I'm still at my same old mediocre level of intelligence, but everyone else got dumber. :)

We kinda joke about "Long Covid" (often rightly so) because the anxiety-riddled CNN/MSNBC watchers keep citing it as a reason for them to be afraid to leave their house, and as a reason to continue restrictions. Logically, both of those conclusions are stupid, but make not mistake, PVS is a real thing.

Basically, once the virus infects, it just keeps replicating until either 1) The host dies; or 2) The immune system of the host neutralizes and clears it from the host. Contrary to popular belief, the virus doesn't "target" any particular part of the body. It just replicates, and goes wherever the body takes it. And some of the body's organs and functions are more susceptible to viral infections (or certain types of viral infections) than other (i.e. lungs). Also, some of the body's organs and functions are better at recovering than others.

So, for this reason, PVS can manifest itself via many different symptoms, and the whole scale of severity.

In the vast majority of cases - but not all - when we experience a viral infection (i.e. flu, cold, etc.), because our immune systems are prepared, the virus doesn't make it deep enough into the body's organs and functions to result in anything other than very minor - if any - PVS symptoms. Generally, PVS is so mild and/or infrequent, most people never even knew it was a thing.

SARS-Cov-2, with an assist from our click-bait media, changed that a bit. We saw reports of "Long Covid" like we've never seen with other standard respiratory viruses. Well, yeah - This is to be expected. Not because there is anything inherently more dangerous about SARS-Cov-2 from a PVS perspective, but rather, simply because it was novel to our immune systems. Novel viruses take longer to clear (as we have covered in previous posts), and so with an infection from a novel virus, it gets to replicate deeper into our body's organs and systems than does non-novel viruses. So, whatever havoc a viral infection might cause on different parts of the body, it's likely going to be worse when the infection is from a novel virus. The good news is, for the vast majority of us (if not literally all of us), since SARS-Cov-2 is no longer novel to our immune systems, from here on out, we can expect incidents and severity of "Long Covid" to approach that of PVS from other standard respiratory viruses that have been circulating among us our whole lives.

The other piece of good news is that if your Covid infection results in Long Covid, perhaps you too will become ridiculously intelligent like me!
I have noticed you were getting smarter over the past two years. You have finally seen how evil the far left can be. Keep improving and might even become a conservative!
 
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