I feel for Mike McQuery. No matter what he did / didn't do. It was never going to be right.....
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HE testified Soapy was sexually assaulting the boy. HE left the kid with Soapy. What kind of human being leaves a child with a man he believes is sexually assaulting him?
And, another thing, money boy, if it was CLEARLY fvcking inappropriate, then how could Daddy-O "AND" Dr Dranov both miss it, too?
You're not too good at this detective thing, are You? You don't think that MM told two different people that SEX was going on and they decided to tell Joe in the morning, do you?
That he "saw" sexually assaulting or "believed" was sexually assaulting the boy? The two are different.
Again, MM didn't know what he saw or what to do. People like that seek advice...hence the call to Daddy-O that said "come home".
Now...if MM really saw a sex act take place, you're real fvck heads then are Daddy'O and Dr Dranov, right? And, they lied under oath.
Not everyone gets to read Jim Clemente's primer on sexual predators. McQueary believed and continues to believe that he witnessed an act of sexual assault. If he didn't, then he's a liar and deserves to burn in hell.
Well, you're totally ****ing useless at anything that requires more an IQ of more than 62. Keep telling yourself different, but every time you comment you prove it.
That's on Mike and his dad to explain. All I am going on is the testimony I heard last week in the courtroom from Mike, his dad and Dr. Dranov.
Dr. Dranov was called to the house after Mike had shown up to listen to Mike's story and to get his advice on what to do. McQ Sr explained that they wanted Dranov's advice. Why Mom's advice wasn't sought is a mystery.
Dranov did not believe Mike's account was worth a call to the University Park Police, 911 or CYS and his advice was that that Mike should just report the incident to his supervisor. It was hearsay, but Dranov felt Penn State needed to know. So Mike did.
You all know this is beating a dead horse, yes?
Penn State reported the incident to Second Mile. Jack Raykovitz admitted under oath that he knew Jerry was in the Lasch shower naked, with a Second Mile teen - who was also naked. Jerry did not provide any counseling or therapy to Second Mile youth. Jerry's gig was emceeing events, handing out awards and fundraising. So what the hell was he doing with a Second Mile youth should have been the first thing Jack should have asked.
Jack admitted that Tim Curley reporting to Second Mile was an appropriate venue to report this incident. Jack failed to identify the youth, he failed to circle back with Tim for more details, he failed to get more details from Jerry, he failed to document the incident, he consulted with Genovese, Heim & Poole and kept that in-house and his recommendation was for Jerry to just wear swim trunks the next time.
Jack failed to identify that showering individually and privately with a youth is the first step in the grooming process. The entire goal of that activity is to have the youth take their clothes off and break down barriers. Jerry could wear full on Carhartt overalls - it doesn't matter. The goal is to have the kid with no clothes on.
This sort of "Grooming" is not the kind of thing you want associated with a kids charity. The only kind of grooming that should be going on is haircuts and manicures.
I don't think a geriatric football coach who life's work is with adults and 2 college admins who work with adults would be versed in the grooming process of children, but I would hope that a child psychologist who not only counsels this population, is the CEO of a charity who services such at-risk kids, and who has reported suspected child sexual abuse from Second Mile kids in the past - would know this.
Why Jack didn't sit Jerry down in a chair, slap him upside the head with the facts about such grooming behavior and read him the riot act is a mystery.
Which makes me ask yet again - what the hell was going on over at the Second Mile?
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That smacked me between the eyes when the court reporter read back Jack's testimony.
Jerry needed his ChildLine clearance. If he lost that - he then lost the ability to fundraise.
So I have to ask once again - what the HELL was going on over at the Second Mile?
And now, we will never, EVER, EVER know.
Because the number of people who "don't want to know" (and don't want anyone else to know) is incredibly long
The number who do? Who do want to know? Who want everyone to know?
A damn smaller number than anyone would want to believe or admit.
Don't that suck?
Don't feed sorry for him. Just feel for the guy no matter what he did would be wrong. Assume he went and knocked Jerry out and the kid said we just took a shower to clean. Apparently this kid said he wasn't a victim. The thing is no matter what he did he was never going to be viewed as doing the right thing.
Not defending him in the least. I think he should have done more, but that's me. Who am I to judge?
Yep.
It's not as if I didn't ask that question directly to state officials. One actually put the wheels in motion only to be pushed out of office by the General Assembly.
So it seems that for all the complaining certain folks in State College are doing about the Second Mile mafia having a stranglehold on their community - guess what?
THEY'RE STILL THERE. They're still beind the curtain pulling the levers.
Whether Mike saw anal rape or not. Whether Mike gets his millions or not. Whether the admins are guilty or not. Whether everyone is just a football crazed JoeBot or not. Whether Joe should have "done more" or not.
The Second Mile Mafia is still in control.
Hahahahahahahhahahahahaahaaaaaaa.
The everybody should be asking regarding the McQueary incident is "who is the actual victim?" If the victim is indeed Allen Myers, who remained very close friends with JS into adulthood and who defended Jerry even after the arrest (until bloodsucker Andrew Shubin got to him), then it is quite clear that no sexual assault occurred in the shower that night. That is completely consistent with Jack Raykowitz's testimony that his recollection was that it was horsing around with a teenager.
If somehow, someone other than Allen Myers is Victim 2, then the only explanation is McQueary really did catch Sandusky sexually assaulting a boy. Why else would Sandusky feel the need to switch the kids? I do not think this is a very plausible solution for a number of reasons. Particularly, i would think that the real victim would not be very difficult to find. The list of kids Sandusky was spending that much alone time with could not have been a very long one, and the experts say Jerry would need to groom his victim for many years until engaging with them sexually. The real victim would be awarded a gold mine by the University and would be given hero status if he came forward. But he hasn't. I think that could only mean one thing.
If somehow, someone other than Allen Myers is Victim 2, then the only explanation is McQueary really did catch Sandusky sexually assaulting a boy. Why else would Sandusky feel the need to switch the kids? I do not think this is a very plausible solution for a number of reasons. Particularly, i would think that the real victim would not be very difficult to find. The list of kids Sandusky was spending that much alone time with could not have been a very long one, and the experts say Jerry would need to groom his victim for many years until engaging with them sexually. The real victim would be awarded a gold mine by the University and would be given hero status if he came forward. But he hasn't. I think that could only mean one thing.
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Treachery of this magnitude, subterfuge, and the fight to withhold information points to one thing money and the power that accompanies it. Too many people are getting rich off Penn State's largess and they want to keep passing it on to their royalty in the kingdom.
He did not call the police. Period.
People who try to do the right thing, call the police.
99.99999999% of humanity, calls the police.
I'm trying to remember the last time I heard a 10 year old child, on the stand, claiming that "we just took a shower to get clean", in reference to being molested by a 59 year old pedophile, naked in a shower at night.
Oh, that's right, never. As in never, in the history of man, has this happened.
Really? Let's say he calls the police and prevents Jerry from leaving with the child. That would have been heroic.
Let's be frank here. Anal sex between men and women runs from pleasure to pain. That same anal sex between a full grown man and a boy runs from painful pressure to excruciating pain. There is no way a boy is quiet and in no stress while he is being assaulted by a full grown man.
I'm still in shock that I actually heard someone on this thread claim that a child victim of a heinous crime would claim that he was in a shower with a grown man because he "just wanted to get clean".
I cannot believe someone actually typed that from their laptop.
I cannot believe someone actually typed that from their laptop.
Oddly enough many said similar things about Joe, C, S, and S and what they were worried about. I tend not to buy that for all, but MM is the punching bag.
And that didn't warrant calling the police on Friday, just tell Joe the next day.
And what exactly was the next step in Joe's career that he was concerned would be impacted?? Was Joe planning a presidential run??
What were the next steps in C/S/S careers?
Fool.
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